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How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by jeejo: 10:49am On Feb 21
I understand that what I am about to explain will earn me insults from a selected few individuals because the same culprits are active here on Nairaland, so I am ready for that as well.

If you go to Binance P2P, there is a heavy manipulation going on there, and from my deductions, most of the big Binance P2P Merchants are united in carrying out this manipulation. Some of them even have over 2 Million dollars worth of USDT in their Binance P2P Funding which begs the question whether these people are truly Nigerians or probably foreigners making money from destroying the Nigerian economy.

Many people might not understand the strategy these merchants use, therefore, I will try to break it down.

This is how the manipulation works:

1. Lets assume that the Naira to Dollar is currently exchanging at the Parallel market for 1,500 Naira. On Binance P2P, the group of Merchants will create multiple fake ads claiming that they will buy your USDT for 1,700 Naira(way above the parallel market price). I call these ads "fake" because they will set a minimum limit above 5Million naira, which means if you want to sell your USDT to them at this exorbitant rate that they created, you must be selling a usdt value worth over 5Million Naira at once. This strategy works in filtering out majority of average Nigerians that want to sell their USDT to these Merchants. Meaning these fake ads will remain at the top of the p2p "sell" section for as long as these group of Merchants want it to remain. And if by chance someone who has enough USDT to meet the minimum limit decides to sell to these merchants, they will simply cancel the trade, and create another ad.

2. Now because these group of merchants have filled the P2P "sell" section with these fake ads claiming to buy your USDT at an exorbitant rate of 1,700 NGN, they have automatically shifted the P2P price of Naira to USD to 1,700 Naira, and now they will be selling their USDT to the public under the "buy" section above 1,700 Naira. Now - unlike the fake ads they created with a minimum limit that is above 5Million Naira to discourage sellers for selling to them at this high rate - when they are selling their USDT at this already manipulated price, you will find limit as low as 4,000 Naira because they want to sell to the Public at the exorbitant price they created.

Binance P2P is the new AbokiFx where BDC operators get their current price of Dollar from. The fake price originating from there is in turn used by the BDC operators to set their Dollar selling prices even without any corresponding demand. But the interesting part is that these BDC operators won't buy from you at any rate close to the exorbitant price they are selling the dollar to you.
Here in Benin city, even though the parallel market price of Naira is above 1,600 Naira, the Abokis hardly buy your dollar for above 1,500 Naira but they will sell to you only above 1,700 Naira.

Some people might argue that if Binance is to blame, how come the official exchange rate is now above 1,500NGN to 1 USD? The answer to that is simple. Each time the rate in the Parallel market moves up, the CBN is forced to also adjust official rates upwards in order to close the gap between both windows or else the black market rate will be too wide that it will create an irresistible opportunity for round-tripping.

There is a huge rot in the entire BDC system in Nigeria that I don't think this CBN governor has any idea how deep it really goes.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by buttlover(m): 10:57am On Feb 21
My 4k is there

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by Nbote(m): 11:15am On Feb 21
jeejo:
I understand that what I am about to explain will earn me insults from a selected few individuals because the same culprits are active here on Nairaland, so I am ready for that as well.

If you go to Binance P2P, there is a heavy manipulation going on there, and from my deductions, most of the big Binance P2P Merchants are united in carrying out this manipulation. Some of them even have over 2 Million dollars worth of USDT in their Binance P2P Funding which begs the question whether these people are truly Nigerians or probably foreigners making money from destroying the Nigerian economy.

Many people might not understand the strategy these merchants use, therefore, I will try to break it down.

This is how the manipulation works:

1. Lets assume that the Naira to Dollar is currently exchanging at the Parallel market for 1,500 Naira. On Binance P2P, the group of Merchants will create multiple fake ads claiming that they will buy your USDT for 1,700 Naira(way above the parallel market price). I call these ads "fake" because they will set a minimum limit above 5Million naira, which means if you want to sell your USDT to them at this exorbitant rate that they created, you must be selling a usdt value worth over 5Million Naira at once. This strategy works in filtering out majority of average Nigerians that want to sell their USDT to these Merchants. Meaning these fake ads will remain at the top of the p2p "sell" section for as long as these group of Merchants want it to remain. And if by chance someone who has enough USDT to meet the minimum limit decides to sell to these merchants, they will simply cancel the trade, and create another ad.

2. Now because these group of merchants have filled the P2P "sell" section with these fake ads claiming to buy your USDT at an exorbitant rate of 1,700 NGN, they have automatically shifted the P2P price of Naira to USD to 1,700 Naira, and now they will be selling their USDT to the public under the "buy" section above 1,700 Naira. Now - unlike the fake ads they created with a minimum limit that is above 5Million Naira to discourage sellers for selling to them at this high rate - when they are selling their USDT at this already manipulated price, you will find limit as low as 4,000 Naira because they want to sell to the Public at the exorbitant price they created.

Binance P2P is the new AbokiFx where BDC operators get their current price of Dollar from. The fake price originating from there is in turn used by the BDC operators to set their Dollar selling prices even without any corresponding demand. But the interesting part is that these BDC operators won't buy from you at any rate close to the exorbitant price they are selling the dollar to you.
Here in Benin city, even though the parallel market price of Naira is above 1,600 Naira, the Abokis hardly buy your dollar for above 1,500 Naira but they will sell to you only above 1,700 Naira.

Some people might argue that if Binance is to blame, how come the official exchange rate is now above 1,500NGN to 1 USD? The answer to that is simple. Each time the rate in the Parallel market moves up, the CBN is forced to also adjust official rates upwards in order to close the gap between both windows or else the black market rate will be too wide that it will create an irresistible opportunity for round-tripping.

There is a huge rot in the entire BDC system in Nigeria that I don't think this CBN governor has any idea how deep it really goes.


Update: It appears the Nairaland moderators in business section do not like this post because they banned my alternate Moniker for 4 days after making this post there.

Now this is an analysis of someone who genuinely wants to have a conversation. Yes your analysis just broke down how many of these fake ads hike prices on Binance but then attributing it to the freefall of the naira is am overkill. Where do BDC operators get their USD from if not the banks? Where do banks get their USDs from if not CBN. The CBN sells dollars to banks who inturn sell at a profit. The CBN allowed itself to be used as the wallet of the political elites and that's what we are suffering from. The manipulation isn't in Binance, the Manipulation is by the same political elites who have amassed so much monies to influence whatever they like.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by heniford2: 11:37am On Feb 21
Dey play so Nigeria government cannot do anything about it

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by motymop: 12:51pm On Feb 21
these group of merchant that you mentioned in your post is Binance, they are doing what we called spoofing and also manipulating price

spoofing,” which involves placing a large buy or sell order for a cryptocurrency on an exchange, with no intention of executing the order. Instead, the goal of the market maker is to manipulate the price of the cryptocurrency by creating a false impression of demand or supply.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by 1x2x3: 12:55pm On Feb 21
jeejo:
I understand that what I am about to explain will earn me insults from a selected few individuals because the same culprits are active here on Nairaland, so I am ready for that as well.

If you go to Binance P2P, there is a heavy manipulation going on there, and from my deductions, most of the big Binance P2P Merchants are united in carrying out this manipulation. Some of them even have over 2 Million dollars worth of USDT in their Binance P2P Funding which begs the question whether these people are truly Nigerians or probably foreigners making money from destroying the Nigerian economy.

Many people might not understand the strategy these merchants use, therefore, I will try to break it down.

This is how the manipulation works:

1. Lets assume that the Naira to Dollar is currently exchanging at the Parallel market for 1,500 Naira. On Binance P2P, the group of Merchants will create multiple fake ads claiming that they will buy your USDT for 1,700 Naira(way above the parallel market price). I call these ads "fake" because they will set a minimum limit above 5Million naira, which means if you want to sell your USDT to them at this exorbitant rate that they created, you must be selling a usdt value worth over 5Million Naira at once. This strategy works in filtering out majority of average Nigerians that want to sell their USDT to these Merchants. Meaning these fake ads will remain at the top of the p2p "sell" section for as long as these group of Merchants want it to remain. And if by chance someone who has enough USDT to meet the minimum limit decides to sell to these merchants, they will simply cancel the trade, and create another ad.

2. Now because these group of merchants have filled the P2P "sell" section with these fake ads claiming to buy your USDT at an exorbitant rate of 1,700 NGN, they have automatically shifted the P2P price of Naira to USD to 1,700 Naira, and now they will be selling their USDT to the public under the "buy" section above 1,700 Naira. Now - unlike the fake ads they created with a minimum limit that is above 5Million Naira to discourage sellers for selling to them at this high rate - when they are selling their USDT at this already manipulated price, you will find limit as low as 4,000 Naira because they want to sell to the Public at the exorbitant price they created.

Binance P2P is the new AbokiFx where BDC operators get their current price of Dollar from. The fake price originating from there is in turn used by the BDC operators to set their Dollar selling prices even without any corresponding demand. But the interesting part is that these BDC operators won't buy from you at any rate close to the exorbitant price they are selling the dollar to you.
Here in Benin city, even though the parallel market price of Naira is above 1,600 Naira, the Abokis hardly buy your dollar for above 1,500 Naira but they will sell to you only above 1,700 Naira.

Some people might argue that if Binance is to blame, how come the official exchange rate is now above 1,500NGN to 1 USD? The answer to that is simple. Each time the rate in the Parallel market moves up, the CBN is forced to also adjust official rates upwards in order to close the gap between both windows or else the black market rate will be too wide that it will create an irresistible opportunity for round-tripping.

There is a huge rot in the entire BDC system in Nigeria that I don't think this CBN governor has any idea how deep it really goes.


Update: It appears the Nairaland moderators in business section do not like this post because they banned my alternate Moniker for 4 days after making this post there.


You are blaming the P2P forgetting the real thieve are your bank MDs who CBN release $$$ to but you would never find the Dollars available to buy from them. Why would anyone want to buy $$ from P2P if banks are willing to sell?

The CBN sell $$ to the banks at N1500 the banks instead of selling to the public at N1550 they prefer to reserve it for politicians or BDCs at a much more higher rate like N1600. Politicians will take this money away and cause shortage while the rest that was sold to BDC will be resold at 1700.

Stop blaming P2P. If they Govt want to solve the problem then they should start with reshuffling things within. What you see is a Govt failing Govt or a clueless one.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by PureFace1(m): 1:03pm On Feb 21
jeejo:
I understand that what I am about to explain will earn me insults from a selected few individuals because the same culprits are active here on Nairaland, so I am ready for that as well.

If you go to Binance P2P, there is a heavy manipulation going on there, and from my deductions, most of the big Binance P2P Merchants are united in carrying out this manipulation. Some of them even have over 2 Million dollars worth of USDT in their Binance P2P Funding which begs the question whether these people are truly Nigerians or probably foreigners making money from destroying the Nigerian economy.

Many people might not understand the strategy these merchants use, therefore, I will try to break it down.

This is how the manipulation works:

1. Lets assume that the Naira to Dollar is currently exchanging at the Parallel market for 1,500 Naira. On Binance P2P, the group of Merchants will create multiple fake ads claiming that they will buy your USDT for 1,700 Naira(way above the parallel market price). I call these ads "fake" because they will set a minimum limit above 5Million naira, which means if you want to sell your USDT to them at this exorbitant rate that they created, you must be selling a usdt value worth over 5Million Naira at once. This strategy works in filtering out majority of average Nigerians that want to sell their USDT to these Merchants. Meaning these fake ads will remain at the top of the p2p "sell" section for as long as these group of Merchants want it to remain. And if by chance someone who has enough USDT to meet the minimum limit decides to sell to these merchants, they will simply cancel the trade, and create another ad.

2. Now because these group of merchants have filled the P2P "sell" section with these fake ads claiming to buy your USDT at an exorbitant rate of 1,700 NGN, they have automatically shifted the P2P price of Naira to USD to 1,700 Naira, and now they will be selling their USDT to the public under the "buy" section above 1,700 Naira. Now - unlike the fake ads they created with a minimum limit that is above 5Million Naira to discourage sellers for selling to them at this high rate - when they are selling their USDT at this already manipulated price, you will find limit as low as 4,000 Naira because they want to sell to the Public at the exorbitant price they created.

Binance P2P is the new AbokiFx where BDC operators get their current price of Dollar from. The fake price originating from there is in turn used by the BDC operators to set their Dollar selling prices even without any corresponding demand. But the interesting part is that these BDC operators won't buy from you at any rate close to the exorbitant price they are selling the dollar to you.
Here in Benin city, even though the parallel market price of Naira is above 1,600 Naira, the Abokis hardly buy your dollar for above 1,500 Naira but they will sell to you only above 1,700 Naira.

Some people might argue that if Binance is to blame, how come the official exchange rate is now above 1,500NGN to 1 USD? The answer to that is simple. Each time the rate in the Parallel market moves up, the CBN is forced to also adjust official rates upwards in order to close the gap between both windows or else the black market rate will be too wide that it will create an irresistible opportunity for round-tripping.

There is a huge rot in the entire BDC system in Nigeria that I don't think this CBN governor has any idea how deep it really goes.


Update: It appears the Nairaland moderators in business section do not like this post because they banned my alternate Moniker for 4 days after making this post there.

You are spreading misinformation

Selling is all always cheaper than buying when it come to P2P in all platforms.

The minimum trade amount for both buy and sell is 4000 naira in Binance.

Everything still follow the law of supply and demand, If there are nobody buying usdt in the price listed for it on Binance the price would drop.

But the problem is demand for usdt is very high which mean it is not really manipulation but the true value of usdt, even If CBN banned Binance there are so many Platforms with P2P like Binance unless CBN banned Crypto currency again which it didn't even work in the past.

CBN can just make dollar sufficient in the official window at a cheaper rate to discourage people from going to Binance to secure usdt as whatever rate is there, but it is easier said than done.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by motymop: 1:12pm On Feb 21
PureFace1:


You are spreading misinformation

Selling is all always cheaper than buying when it come to P2P in all platforms.

The minimum trade amount for both buy and sell is 4000 naira in Binance.

Everything still follow the law of supply and demand, If there are nobody buying usdt in the price listed for it on Binance the price would drop.

But the problem is demand for usdt is very high which mean it is not really manipulation but the true value of usdt, even If CBN banned Binance there are so many Platforms with P2P like Binance unless CBN banned Crypto currency again which it didn't even work in the past.

CBN can just make dollar sufficient in the official window at a cheaper rate to discourage people from going to Binance to secure usdt as whatever rate is there, but it is easier said than done.


anything online can be manipulated.

USDT isnt legally approved in Nigeria and many jurisdictions do not recognize usdt or any stable coin because, it is not real dollar

Binance is a market maker so they provide liquidity that also means that can manipulate price to attract people to their p2p platform.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by ShoeGetSize: 1:13pm On Feb 21
99.9% of money laundering in Nigeria happens through the manual looting and diversion of government resources and funds by politicians. This has been going on since 1960, long before the creator of Binance was even born.

The demographic which will be hurt the most by a proscription of Binance are the intelligent and tech savvy young people who make an honest and respectable living on the platform.

Meanwhile the rotten and degenerate old men in politics will continue to pilfer billions of dollars and euros and nothing will happen to them.

jeejo:
I understand that what I am about to explain will earn me insults from a selected few individuals because the same culprits are active here on Nairaland, so I am ready for that as well.

If you go to Binance P2P, there is a heavy manipulation going on there, and from my deductions, most of the big Binance P2P Merchants are united in carrying out this manipulation. Some of them even have over 2 Million dollars worth of USDT in their Binance P2P Funding which begs the question whether these people are truly Nigerians or probably foreigners making money from destroying the Nigerian economy.

Many people might not understand the strategy these merchants use, therefore, I will try to break it down.

This is how the manipulation works:

1. Lets assume that the Naira to Dollar is currently exchanging at the Parallel market for 1,500 Naira. On Binance P2P, the group of Merchants will create multiple fake ads claiming that they will buy your USDT for 1,700 Naira(way above the parallel market price). I call these ads "fake" because they will set a minimum limit above 5Million naira, which means if you want to sell your USDT to them at this exorbitant rate that they created, you must be selling a usdt value worth over 5Million Naira at once. This strategy works in filtering out majority of average Nigerians that want to sell their USDT to these Merchants. Meaning these fake ads will remain at the top of the p2p "sell" section for as long as these group of Merchants want it to remain. And if by chance someone who has enough USDT to meet the minimum limit decides to sell to these merchants, they will simply cancel the trade, and create another ad.

2. Now because these group of merchants have filled the P2P "sell" section with these fake ads claiming to buy your USDT at an exorbitant rate of 1,700 NGN, they have automatically shifted the P2P price of Naira to USD to 1,700 Naira, and now they will be selling their USDT to the public under the "buy" section above 1,700 Naira. Now - unlike the fake ads they created with a minimum limit that is above 5Million Naira to discourage sellers for selling to them at this high rate - when they are selling their USDT at this already manipulated price, you will find limit as low as 4,000 Naira because they want to sell to the Public at the exorbitant price they created.

Binance P2P is the new AbokiFx where BDC operators get their current price of Dollar from. The fake price originating from there is in turn used by the BDC operators to set their Dollar selling prices even without any corresponding demand. But the interesting part is that these BDC operators won't buy from you at any rate close to the exorbitant price they are selling the dollar to you.
Here in Benin city, even though the parallel market price of Naira is above 1,600 Naira, the Abokis hardly buy your dollar for above 1,500 Naira but they will sell to you only above 1,700 Naira.

Some people might argue that if Binance is to blame, how come the official exchange rate is now above 1,500NGN to 1 USD? The answer to that is simple. Each time the rate in the Parallel market moves up, the CBN is forced to also adjust official rates upwards in order to close the gap between both windows or else the black market rate will be too wide that it will create an irresistible opportunity for round-tripping.

There is a huge rot in the entire BDC system in Nigeria that I don't think this CBN governor has any idea how deep it really goes.


Update: It appears the Nairaland moderators in business section do not like this post because they banned my alternate Moniker for 4 days after making this post there.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by tensazangetsu20(m): 1:17pm On Feb 21
So it's no more abokifx. It's now binance. What's next? The government will ban binance and further throw more people into poverty undecided undecided

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by Farrason: 1:26pm On Feb 21
ShoeGetSize:

99.9% of money laundering in Nigeria happens through the manual looting and diversion of government resources and funds by politicians. This has been going on since 1960, long before the creator of Binance was even born.

The demographic which will be hurt the most by a proscription of Binance are the intelligent and tech savvy young people who make an honest and respectable living on the platform.

Meanwhile the rotten and degenerate old men in politics will continue to pilfer billions of dollars and euros and nothing will happen to them.


Pls tell him to stfkup if he has nothing reasonable to say. So na P2P weh just start yesterday cause the naira to fall since 1960. When your FG was devaluing the naira consecutively in different dispensation just to woo investors, you lost your voice abi. Will American do same to woo russian investors or German investors... Anu mpama!!

This last one came in and removed subsidy without checking the board for cause and effects... Government is not Chess baby.

Every decision comes with a consequence, you decide the side it falls on if you make an ignorant one or wise one.

Anyways, continue the blaming, someone said basket mouth, today na Binance P2P, tomorrow they will blame Burna, Wizzy, Tiwa and everyone who gets paid in dollars. They should be paid in Naira instead.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by bnanny: 1:36pm On Feb 21
jeejo:
I understand that what I am about to explain will earn me insults from a selected few individuals because the same culprits are active here on Nairaland, so I am ready for that as well.

If you go to Binance P2P, there is a heavy manipulation going on there, and from my deductions, most of the big Binance P2P Merchants are united in carrying out this manipulation. Some of them even have over 2 Million dollars worth of USDT in their Binance P2P Funding which begs the question whether these people are truly Nigerians or probably foreigners making money from destroying the Nigerian economy.

Many people might not understand the strategy these merchants use, therefore, I will try to break it down.

This is how the manipulation works:

1. Lets assume that the Naira to Dollar is currently exchanging at the Parallel market for 1,500 Naira. On Binance P2P, the group of Merchants will create multiple fake ads claiming that they will buy your USDT for 1,700 Naira(way above the parallel market price). I call these ads "fake" because they will set a minimum limit above 5Million naira, which means if you want to sell your USDT to them at this exorbitant rate that they created, you must be selling a usdt value worth over 5Million Naira at once. This strategy works in filtering out majority of average Nigerians that want to sell their USDT to these Merchants. Meaning these fake ads will remain at the top of the p2p "sell" section for as long as these group of Merchants want it to remain. And if by chance someone who has enough USDT to meet the minimum limit decides to sell to these merchants, they will simply cancel the trade, and create another ad.

2. Now because these group of merchants have filled the P2P "sell" section with these fake ads claiming to buy your USDT at an exorbitant rate of 1,700 NGN, they have automatically shifted the P2P price of Naira to USD to 1,700 Naira, and now they will be selling their USDT to the public under the "buy" section above 1,700 Naira. Now - unlike the fake ads they created with a minimum limit that is above 5Million Naira to discourage sellers for selling to them at this high rate - when they are selling their USDT at this already manipulated price, you will find limit as low as 4,000 Naira because they want to sell to the Public at the exorbitant price they created.

Binance P2P is the new AbokiFx where BDC operators get their current price of Dollar from. The fake price originating from there is in turn used by the BDC operators to set their Dollar selling prices even without any corresponding demand. But the interesting part is that these BDC operators won't buy from you at any rate close to the exorbitant price they are selling the dollar to you.
Here in Benin city, even though the parallel market price of Naira is above 1,600 Naira, the Abokis hardly buy your dollar for above 1,500 Naira but they will sell to you only above 1,700 Naira.

Some people might argue that if Binance is to blame, how come the official exchange rate is now above 1,500NGN to 1 USD? The answer to that is simple. Each time the rate in the Parallel market moves up, the CBN is forced to also adjust official rates upwards in order to close the gap between both windows or else the black market rate will be too wide that it will create an irresistible opportunity for round-tripping.

There is a huge rot in the entire BDC system in Nigeria that I don't think this CBN governor has any idea how deep it really goes.


Update: It appears the Nairaland moderators in business section do not like this post because they banned my alternate Moniker for 4 days after making this post there.
Bro before you blame the masses and Binance. Check Atiku dollar in this picture. So much dollars in the hands of our politicians but you can only blame Binance and masses.
Update. Looking at the photos you can tell that Nigeria politicians are the main problems. They created problem and then pay you guys to blame masses and private investments.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by Emmanuel909090: 1:53pm On Feb 21
jeejo:
I understand that what I am about to explain will earn me insults from a selected few individuals because the same culprits are active here on Nairaland, so I am ready for that as well.

If you go to Binance P2P, there is a heavy manipulation going on there, and from my deductions, most of the big Binance P2P Merchants are united in carrying out this manipulation. Some of them even have over 2 Million dollars worth of USDT in their Binance P2P Funding which begs the question whether these people are truly Nigerians or probably foreigners making money from destroying the Nigerian economy.

Many people might not understand the strategy these merchants use, therefore, I will try to break it down.

This is how the manipulation works:

1. Lets assume that the Naira to Dollar is currently exchanging at the Parallel market for 1,500 Naira. On Binance P2P, the group of Merchants will create multiple fake ads claiming that they will buy your USDT for 1,700 Naira(way above the parallel market price). I call these ads "fake" because they will set a minimum limit above 5Million naira, which means if you want to sell your USDT to them at this exorbitant rate that they created, you must be selling a usdt value worth over 5Million Naira at once. This strategy works in filtering out majority of average Nigerians that want to sell their USDT to these Merchants. Meaning these fake ads will remain at the top of the p2p "sell" section for as long as these group of Merchants want it to remain. And if by chance someone who has enough USDT to meet the minimum limit decides to sell to these merchants, they will simply cancel the trade, and create another ad.

2. Now because these group of merchants have filled the P2P "sell" section with these fake ads claiming to buy your USDT at an exorbitant rate of 1,700 NGN, they have automatically shifted the P2P price of Naira to USD to 1,700 Naira, and now they will be selling their USDT to the public under the "buy" section above 1,700 Naira. Now - unlike the fake ads they created with a minimum limit that is above 5Million Naira to discourage sellers for selling to them at this high rate - when they are selling their USDT at this already manipulated price, you will find limit as low as 4,000 Naira because they want to sell to the Public at the exorbitant price they created.

Binance P2P is the new AbokiFx where BDC operators get their current price of Dollar from. The fake price originating from there is in turn used by the BDC operators to set their Dollar selling prices even without any corresponding demand. But the interesting part is that these BDC operators won't buy from you at any rate close to the exorbitant price they are selling the dollar to you.
Here in Benin city, even though the parallel market price of Naira is above 1,600 Naira, the Abokis hardly buy your dollar for above 1,500 Naira but they will sell to you only above 1,700 Naira.

Some people might argue that if Binance is to blame, how come the official exchange rate is now above 1,500NGN to 1 USD? The answer to that is simple. Each time the rate in the Parallel market moves up, the CBN is forced to also adjust official rates upwards in order to close the gap between both windows or else the black market rate will be too wide that it will create an irresistible opportunity for round-tripping.

There is a huge rot in the entire BDC system in Nigeria that I don't think this CBN governor has any idea how deep it really goes.


Update: It appears the Nairaland moderators in business section do not like this post because they banned my alternate Moniker for 4 days after making this post there.


Sorry to say, but you are so naive.
Go and read and understand what affects fiat and what affects the economy.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by PureFace1(m): 2:04pm On Feb 21
motymop:


anything online can be manipulated.

USDT isnt legally approved in Nigeria and many jurisdictions do not recognize usdt or any stable coin because, it is not real dollar

Binance is a market market so they provide liquidity that also means that can manipulate price to attract people to their p2p platform.


As long as there are people willing to buy at the price it is listed, It is not manipulation the demand is just too high that people are willing to buy at that price, if people are not buying at the price listed the price would be forced to drop.

Do you think people are stupid?

If people can easily walk into any banks in Nigeria or online and secure Dollar at the official rate for their business transactions you think they would be patronizing Binance and other black market dealers ? but the dollar is just too scarce that it is not really available, if you call that manipulation then you are stupid.

What you guys want to do is kill other alternatives sources of getting dollar, with CBN and banks having absolute monopoly and tolerating whatever is dish out but usd is not a Nigeria currency and CBN can't have the absolute monopoly over it.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by johnog4sure: 2:10pm On Feb 21
Why blame them, when you cant stop them, what they are doing is called "Speculation" the same with people in the market who make a call to their suppliers before fixing a retail price, it is the CBN you should focus your energy on, they make monetary and fiscal policies.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by PureFace1(m): 2:20pm On Feb 21
motymop:


anything online can be manipulated.

USDT isnt legally approved in Nigeria and many jurisdictions do not recognize usdt or any stable coin because, it is not real dollar

Binance is a market maker so they provide liquidity that also means that can manipulate price to attract people to their p2p platform.


USDT is digital currency but it is back up by real dollars.

It is just like the money in your bank app and wallet, it is not real money but it is back up by real naira in your bank's vault.

Keep playing ostrich and run away from the real problems.

The real problem is CBN or banks in Nigeria can't satisfy the demand for USD in Nigeria.

So of course people will look for alternatives elsewhere even if it expensive or illegal.

If tomorrow no filling station sell petrol in Nigeria or they can no longer satisfy the demand for petrol do you think Nigerians that seriously need fuel for business wouldn't source for it elsewhere either by crook or hook even if it is very expensive and transfer the cost to customers and consumers?

You guys keep blaming everyone for your failure to satisfy the demands for USD in Nigeria.

with the way we depend on imported goods in Nigeria and our politicians packing every available usd into their pockets with ridiculous amount of naira that they printed and looted usdt is still undervalue.

Politicians are the one destroying this country but keep running away from the real problems, the people that will genuinely need the dollars for business wouldn't be able to get it but you say they must leave their business to die and put up with every bullshits from CBN.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by motymop: 2:24pm On Feb 21
PureFace1:


As long as there are people willing to buy at the price it is listed, It is not manipulation the demand is just too high that people are willing to buy at that price, if people are not buying at the price listed the price would be forced to drop.

Do you think people are stupid?

If people can easily walk into any banks in Nigeria or online and secure Dollar at the official rate for their business transactions you think they would be patronizing Binance and other black market dealers ? but the dollar is just too scarce that it is not really available, if you call that manipulation then you are stupid.

What you guys want to do is kill other alternatives sources of getting dollar, with CBN and banks having absolute monopoly and tolerating whatever is dish out but usd is not a Nigeria currency and CBN can't have the absolute monopoly over it.

it doesn't work by demand and supply. market marker create demand by artificially creating demands through bots, they also profit from the difference in the bid-ask spread, Binance also act as a buyer or a seller for a specific transaction when there is no suitable counterparty to fulfill the order.

so it is not how you think you said it works is how it works in real life. they can use spoofing to pump up demand

and lastly, USDT isnt Dollar but a stablecoin pegged to dollar

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by motymop: 2:30pm On Feb 21
PureFace1:


Keep playing ostrich and run away from the real problems.

The real problem is CBN or banks in Nigeria can't satisfy the demand for USD in Nigeria.

So of course people will look for alternatives elsewhere even if it expensive or illegal.

If tomorrow no filling station sell petrol in Nigeria or they can no longer satisfy the demand for petrol do you think Nigeria that seriously need fuel for business wouldn't source for it elsewhere either by crook or hook even if it is very expensive and transfer the cost to customers and consumers?

You guys keep blaming everyone for your failure to satisfy the demands for USD in Nigeria.

with the way we depend on imported goods in Nigeria and our politicians packing every available usd into their pockets with ridiculous amount of naira that they printed and looted usdt is still undervalue.

Politicians are the one destroying this country but keep running away from the real problems, the people that will genuinely need the dollars for business wouldn't be able to get it but you say they must leave their business to die and put up with every bullshits from CBN.

you cant buy dollar on binance but USDT

USDT is a crypto stablecoin pegged to the dollar thus banned in many countries

International sellers do not collect USDT for trading goods because there are lot of regulatory risk involved

What is happening on binance p2p is speculator using USDT to speculate on the Naira, they have moved away from USD to digitally use USDT

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by PureFace1(m): 2:37pm On Feb 21
motymop:


it doesn't work by demand and supply. market marker create demand by artificially creating demands through bots, they also profit from the difference in the bid-ask spread, Binance also act as a buyer or a seller for a specific transaction when there is no suitable counterparty to fulfill the order.

so it is not how you think you said it works is how it works in real life. they can use spoofing to pump up demand

and lastly, USDT isnt Dollar but a stablecoin pegged to dollar

Keep living in denial lol

You can not satisfy the demand of the customers coming to your shop but you are mad that the only dealer in the area that is able to satisfy the demand is selling at whatever price he like, of course as customers keep coming to his shop he would keep raising price because he is the only dealer that have what they need in sufficient amount. It is still basic economy.


Your own idea now is too kill the dealer so that the customers can come back to your place and tolerate the bullshits you offer them and suffer without even getting what they need or force the dealer to sell at your own price when you are not the one that open shop for him.


You think people will buy at the rate pump up by spoofing if they can easily get it a cheaper rate elsewhere lol?

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by motymop: 2:42pm On Feb 21
PureFace1:


USDT is digital currency but it is back up by real dollars.

It is just like the money in your bank app and wallet, it is not real money but it is back up by real naira in your bank's vault.

Keep playing ostrich and run away from the real problems.

The real problem is CBN or banks in Nigeria can't satisfy the demand for USD in Nigeria.

So of course people will look for alternatives elsewhere even if it expensive or illegal.

If tomorrow no filling station sell petrol in Nigeria or they can no longer satisfy the demand for petrol do you think Nigeria that seriously need fuel for business wouldn't source for it elsewhere either by crook or hook even if it is very expensive and transfer the cost to customers and consumers?

You guys keep blaming everyone for your failure to satisfy the demands for USD in Nigeria.

with the way we depend on imported goods in Nigeria and our politicians packing every available usd into their pockets with ridiculous amount of naira that they printed and looted usdt is still undervalue.

Politicians are the one destroying this country but keep running away from the real problems, the people that will genuinely need the dollars for business wouldn't be able to get it but you say they must leave their business to die and put up with every bullshits from CBN.

the money on your bank app is real money and different from the USDT, USDT is not real currency but a stable coin for changing positions in crypto, it is different from real USD or digital money in your account.

Many international organisations do not use USDT for trading goods and services because of regulatory issues and anti- money laundering laws.

The demand for real USD has nothing to do with the demand of USDT, the demand for USDT at this moment is used for speculative purposes

the only reason traders are selling usdt/ngn pair in the unofficial rate at cbn is because of greed

Are they sourcing USDT from Nigeria government? NO or are they buying NGN from Nigerian government? no

so why are traders using the black market rate on binance if it is not about greed and arbitrage profit

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by PureFace1(m): 2:47pm On Feb 21
motymop:


you cant buy dollar on binance but USDT

USDT is a crypto stablecoin pegged to the dollar thus banned in many countries

International sellers do not collect USDT for trading goods because there are lot of regulatory risk involved

What is happening on binance p2p is speculator using USDT to speculate on the Naira, they have moved away from USD to digitally use USDT

You don't even know what you are saying

USDT is still crypto currency so it is not really illegal unless Nigeria banned crypto currency again and it is very legal in many countries that didn't ban crypto currency.

International sellers collect money through many mode of payment, there's hardly a website that don't have making payment in crypto currency these days so you don't even know what you are saying.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by motymop: 2:49pm On Feb 21
PureFace1:


Keep living in denial lol

You can not satisfy the demand of the customers coming to your shop but you are mad that the only dealer in the area that is able to satisfy the demand is selling at whatever price he like, of course as customers keep coming to his shop he would keep raising price because he is the only dealer that have what they need in sufficient amount. It is still basic economy.


Your own idea now is too kill the dealer so that the customers can come back to your place and tolerate the bullshits you offer them and suffer without even getting what they need or force the dealer to sell at your own price when you are not the one that open shop for him.


You think people will buy at the rate pump up by spoofing if they can easily get it a cheaper rate elsewhere lol?




why do I have to keep explaining to you that USDT isn't dollar or cant be used for international trade

USDT is a trading stablecoin and can only be used for speculative activities

Nobody is buying usdt to buy oil or to import goods or to pay school or medical fees, if they were really doing that then there will be demands for it to the tune of millions of dollars

In nigeria, the 24 hours volume of usdt on binance is just about $1.5m, that is enough to show that people arent demanding for it like you think in your head.

Traders are just playing a good game, speculating on it and making huge profit from from arbitrage trading

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by motymop: 2:53pm On Feb 21
PureFace1:


You don't even know what you are saying

USDT is still crypto currency so it is not really illegal unless Nigeria banned crypto currency again and it is very legal in many countries that didn't ban crypto currency.

International sellers collect money through many mode of payment, there's hardly a website that don't have making payment in crypto currency these days so you don't even know what you are saying.

USDT is illegal in Nigeria, it has no regulatory backing, that is why you cant use it to buy and sell goods, that is also why there is no public exchange for it.

International sellers do not take USDT as a mean of payment because of regulatory issues

can you pay for oil in usdt
can you buy clothes with usdt
can you buy machineries in usdt
can you pay for school and medical fees in usdt

NO you cant, you can only buy some software or crypto related goods with usdt.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by PureFace1(m): 2:56pm On Feb 21
motymop:


the money on your bank app is real money and different from the USDT, USDT is not real currency but a stable coin for changing positions in crypto, it is different from real USD or digital money in your account.

Many international organisations do not use USDT for trading goods and services because of regulatory issues and anti- money laundering laws.

The demand for real USD has nothing to do with the demand of USDT, the demand for USDT at this moment is used for speculative purposes

the only reason traders are selling usdt/ngn pair in the unofficial rate at cbn is because of greed

Are they sourcing USDT from Nigeria government? NO or are they buying NGN from Nigerian government? no

so why are traders using the black market rate on binance if it is not about greed and arbitrage profit


USDT is back up by dollars and real world assets like the money in your bank.

You know nothing Jon snow.

There's hardly any website in the world today that is not receiving payments in crypto currency and as long as the ban on crypto currency is lifted in Nigeria, USDT is legal in Nigeria and so many countries that legalize crypto currency.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by PureFace1(m): 3:02pm On Feb 21
motymop:


USDT is illegal in Nigeria, it has no regulatory backing, that is why you cant use it to buy and sell goods, that is also why there is no public exchange for it.

International sellers do not take USDT as a mean of payment because of regulatory issues

can you pay for oil in usdt
can you buy clothes with usdt
can you buy machineries in usdt
can you pay for school and medical fees in usdt

NO you cant, you can only buy some software or crypto related goods with usdt.



You are just very ignorant

You don't even have any knowledge about the things you are saying, Nigeria is the way it is because of people like you that are in charge but lack knowledge and think they know so much and know it all.

You can buy all what you listed above in usdt, there are thousands of websites that receive payment in crypto currency online.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by PureFace1(m): 3:04pm On Feb 21
motymop:


USDT is illegal in Nigeria, it has no regulatory backing, that is why you cant use it to buy and sell goods, that is also why there is no public exchange for it.

International sellers do not take USDT as a mean of payment because of regulatory issues

can you pay for oil in usdt
can you buy clothes with usdt
can you buy machineries in usdt
can you pay for school and medical fees in usdt

NO you cant, you can only buy some software or crypto related goods with usdt.



USDT is still a crypto currency how is it illegal in Nigeria when Nigeria lifted the ban on crypto currency last year ?

You are just delusional.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by Seunpapa65: 4:41pm On Feb 21
So the poor masses should keep there naira in banks so that it will keep being useless when our politicians are the ones doing everything
Thank God for binance if they like let them ban it men go still dey run am even market women want to save in dollars
Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by GoodBoi1(m): 4:47pm On Feb 21
Interesting
Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by SIXFEETUNDER: 4:56pm On Feb 21
E remain make Teabubu black list binance and every BDC app

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by hayoholla(m): 5:51pm On Feb 21
PureFace1:


CBN can just make dollar sufficient in the official window at a cheaper rate to discourage people from going to Binance to secure usdt as whatever rate is there, but it is easier said than done.


Those set of people will still buy the bulk of it, which will lead CBN to be Dollar strapped. When we really needed the dollar was when we had it abundant. Unfortunately, we did not put it to good use.

Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by Feldie: 5:55pm On Feb 21
Absolutely brilliant. This is totally what's happening. Unbelievable that we have DSS, EFCC, police and what not yet they can't figure this out. What am I even saying? How will they figure it out when the people in charge of those agencies are old outdated men that will probably shout at you if you try to explain this them.

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Re: How Binance P2P Contributes To The Plummeting Naira Value by Feldie: 5:58pm On Feb 21
Nbote:


Now this is an analysis of someone who genuinely wants to have a conversation. Yes your analysis just broke down how many of these fake ads hike prices on Binance but then attributing it to the freefall of the naira is am overkill. Where do BDC operators get their USD from if not the banks? Where do banks get their USDs from if not CBN. The CBN sells dollars to banks who inturn sell at a profit. The CBN allowed itself to be used as the wallet of the political elites and that's what we are suffering from. The manipulation isn't in Binance, the Manipulation is by the same political elites who have amassed so much monies to influence whatever they like.
bro binance dictate the value of Naira. I swear. If you see people on Twitter trending the price of dollar to Naira 99% of them are quoting Binance. Banks will just follow suit and since CBN has decided they will not entertain multiple exchange rates those ones too will follow

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