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Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by DeepSight(m): 4:11pm On Feb 21 |
Maynthemayn: Quite correct, good afternoon. |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 4:11pm On Feb 21 |
PoliteActivist: If I give you a cheque of 1 million naira, you have not seen the 1 million naira but you are sure you will get it as that cheque is the evidence I don't have a wire connection from my phone to anywhere but I am sure that I can call someone in another part of the globe. That is made possible by radio waves. These are examples of faith God did not just say something. He created all things. Have you seen a contractor that built a house without saying something? Science tells us that the universe has a beginning. The universe cannot be its own cause Critical thinking |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 4:13pm On Feb 21 |
DeepSight: Good What are your basis that God exists though no one has ever seen him He's not a mortal being |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Maynthemayn: 4:13pm On Feb 21 |
DeepSight:Existence is always in the now, never in the past or future. That's one of the things I said about monotheistic influence, you think time was created at a point in existence, but what Moment past when there was no time? Good afternoon, bro deep sight. |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by PoliteActivist: 4:18pm On Feb 21 |
Aemmyjah: In this my umpire role I'm nobody's fan at all. I am simply playing devil's advocate for both sides. By the end, if am a good umpire, both sides will see me as biased against them! ![]() I don't know how you can say it is logical to say an entity says something and it happens - and that's how the universe was created some 6000 years ago. It is NOT wrong to believe so, but saying it is logical is another issue altogether! |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by DeepSight(m): 4:19pm On Feb 21 |
Maynthemayn: I dont think time was created. Time is self existent. Good afternoon. |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Maynthemayn: 4:20pm On Feb 21 |
DeepSight:Good, this your god is part of existence, it is an entity, it's sexless, it also didn't create time, time is also self existing like your god. Why is this god needed? We already know some things about your god already. |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 4:20pm On Feb 21 |
PoliteActivist: You're wrong The idea that the universe was created some 6000 years ago is false and misleading |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:21pm On Feb 21 |
PoliteActivist: This is exactly what i often tell you guys, the way you've been indoctrinated in false religions makes you think the highlighted is how to define faith whereas you're wrong. That has nothing to do with REAL faith! |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 4:21pm On Feb 21 |
DeepSight: Define self-existence |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by DeepSight(m): 4:23pm On Feb 21 |
Aemmyjah: Existing in and of itself as a necessary and non contingent thing. |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 4:24pm On Feb 21 |
MaxInDHouse: Very poor definition It's like a group of scientists listening to a bushman define a scientific term according to his own knowledge or what he heard other people say and he thinks he's speaking fact |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:26pm On Feb 21 |
Aemmyjah:Don't blame him that's what false religion taught him but he ought to ask: What is faith? Get the clear understanding of Paul's definition before speaking about it! |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 4:27pm On Feb 21 |
DeepSight:Good On what basis do you say time is self - existent Time is measured Time is a dimension How's it self - existent? |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 4:27pm On Feb 21 |
MaxInDHouse: And he wants to play umpire ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:29pm On Feb 21 |
Aemmyjah:He is simply telling you to fight over his soul as he's now on the fence thinking of where to switch to! ![]() |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 4:32pm On Feb 21 |
MaxInDHouse: He's not thinking of where to switch to He wants entertainment |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 4:35pm On Feb 21 |
MaxInDHouse: See how he defines faith Baba cele definition They'll give someone a pen to write his exams The pen has one unique smell The idiot does not read Goes to the exams hall and think of a miracle but nothing happens. ![]() |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:35pm On Feb 21 |
Aemmyjah: Naaaaaaaaaaaa that's how they pretend when they're fed up with false religions because all the promises of their pastors about jumping from grass to glory never came true that's why he is saying faith lied to him! ![]() |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by isan(m): 4:37pm On Feb 21 |
I believe God exists but he doesn't interfere with human lifes , God didn't create any religion and he has never sent any mvtherfvcker to earth . |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 4:40pm On Feb 21 |
MaxInDHouse: The blame is on false prophets for failed expectations but they keep grudge against God and foolishly subscribe to Atheism channel Atheism that says life has no purpose or hope is what sounds meaningful to them in the false promise of critical thinking One is saying time is self-existent. Imagine! ![]() ![]() ![]() Scientifically or philosophically, time is not self-existent... They say it's a mystery to them but the creator of all things is what they dismiss based on things they don't understand |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 4:42pm On Feb 21 |
isan: What are the basis of your belief sir? I don't believe or heard of him sending such person or thing as highlighted in your comments |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:43pm On Feb 21 |
Aemmyjah: Who taught Christians about faith? Is it not Jesus or Nazareth? Did he use such logic for personal gain? Well when Satan asked him to go against logic Jesus told Satan that it's against faith in God: “If you are a son of God, tell these stones to become loaves of bread.” But he answered: “It is written: ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from Jehovah’s mouth.’" Then the Devil took him along into the holy city, and he stationed him on the battlement of the temple and said to him: “If you are a son of God, throw yourself down, for it is written: ‘He will give his angels a command concerning you,’ and, ‘They will carry you on their hands, so that you may not strike your foot against a stone.’” Jesus said to him: “Again it is written: ‘You must not put Jehovah your God to the test.’" Matthew 4:3-7 The highlighted in blue are things that are really illogical but did Jesus support it? NO! |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 4:45pm On Feb 21 |
PoliteActivist God is acknowledged or referenced as the Cause or Creator of all things Atheists say all things came into existence by itself without any cause How's that possible? That's the major foundation of such arguments Thank you |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by PoliteActivist: 4:49pm On Feb 21 |
Image123: So we at least arrive at one agreement: Religion is NOT logical Though some religionists are still debating that it is 1 Like |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by isan(m): 4:52pm On Feb 21 |
Because I've not seen a situation where some kind of thing just happens out of thin air without any human physically involved. Aemmyjah: |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by PoliteActivist: 4:54pm On Feb 21 |
DeepSight: Point is, the seer sees something. That something is the basis of his belief. Pure faith is seeing nothing at all, yet being 100% sure |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by isan(m): 4:55pm On Feb 21 |
Lol are you for real? You've not heard about Jesus or Muhammad and how their followers claimed God sent them to earth as messengers? ![]() Aemmyjah: |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by isan(m): 4:58pm On Feb 21 |
Pure faith is when a pastor tell his followers he he drank tea with God and they all believed him .... I personally think it's just delusional PoliteActivist: |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 5:02pm On Feb 21 |
isan: Such as? |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 5:03pm On Feb 21 |
isan: Is that completely strange to you? |
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by PoliteActivist: 5:08pm On Feb 21 |
Aemmyjah: Lol, I'm sure you can do better than this. Cheques have nothing to do with faith. Cheques have abundant precedents - they are cashed everyday and have been for a long time. Pure faith is based on nothing - yet there is 100% certitude. Created the universe by speaking it into existence. Isn't that your position? If not, how? Science also tell us the universe began from vacuum energy, which can be its own cause |
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