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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:20pm On Feb 24
bemeruca:


I don't see you doing that. You argument is to find out if you are strong enough to beat a bully. I was telling you that if you can fight a bully without getting your ass whoopped you will know before you fight. You will know if you are evenly matched or you are just gonna take a beating.

You support anything that destroys and Palestine is one of them.
It's your typical "maths is racist" unthinking that's made you irrelevant.

Personally, I'd rather get my ass whooped fighting back than just stand by and be bullied, perhaps because I'm not the weak stupid idiot you are. Palestinians are however not fighting Israel. Hamas is, and they are jeopardising the lives of Palestinians.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 4:46pm On Feb 24
budaatum:

It's your typical "maths is racist" unthinking that's made you irrelevant.

Personally, I'd rather get my ass whooped fighting back than just stand by and be bullied, perhaps because I'm not the weak stupid idiot you are. Palestinians are however not fighting Israel. Hamas is, and they are jeopardising the lives of Palestinians.

They have been shooting rocket, that is poking the bear and you support it. A time they should know that everytime they fight since 1947 they get their ass whooped, maybe fighting isn't the right way to go about it. Maybe they should focus on living side by side with Israel instead of trying to annihilate what they can not fight.

But they have you to tutor them into destroying their lives.
They were not defending themselves, they crossed into the territory of Israel and slaughter and rape innocent people. That's an attack, another ceasefire broken by them because they have you tutoring them into destroying their lives 🤣

I see you now keep your distance from Hamas. Damage already done. But we see right through you.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by JessicaRabbit(f): 4:54pm On Feb 24
bemeruca:


it's your choice. whichever option you choose, it's your choice. use your insurance and get the help you need

Clearly, your expertise lies in armchair diagnoses, not interesting comebacks. Perhaps you should consider switching fields.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by JessicaRabbit(f): 4:55pm On Feb 24
basilico:


There is a dress with his DNA evidence?
It must be the one NASA went to look for up there on the moon's surface.
Two witnesses who couldn't remember the year also.
Photograph? AAh Trump has a Gazillion photos with women. And he had said previously that women can let him grab them by the pussy. Whoa. Such watertight evidence.

With Fani evidence should be foolproof .

What a liar.


You fail to acknowledge the difference in context, consent, and relevance when comparing Trump's photos with women to Carroll's photo with him. This is another false equivocation fallacy you've committed here. Trump denied ever meeting Carroll, and so her photo with him was intended to at least prove that she knew Trump personally, and that he had access to her. You should be crafting fiction, not debating facts. Even a soggy tissue offers more resistance than your current position. Perhaps when you finally grow the balls to answer these questions in good faith.....
JessicaRabbit:


Here's some questions for you to answer, if you aren't intellectually dishonest:

(1) How does the fact that Jean Carroll has written about her experiences and encounters with various men (including Trump), invalidate her accusations against Trump?

(2) Do you think it is right for you to make assumptions about people's personal lives based on a single event?

(3) Have you ever stopped to consider the fact that sexual assault survivors' responses and coping mechanisms are diverse and cannot be generalized?

(4) How does Carroll's decision to wear, or not to wear the dress, invalidate her accusations against Trump?

(5) As a writer and advice columnist, Carroll has covered a wide range of topics beyond sex. You don't think you're grossly oversimplifying her work by saying her "interviews were "always about sex, anal sex, lessons from 'My Dog.'"?
.....you'll finally come to the realization that you have been on a wild goose chase as far as this topic is concerned.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:22pm On Feb 24
JessicaRabbit:


Clearly, your expertise lies in armchair diagnoses, not interesting comebacks. Perhaps you should consider switching fields.

Just seek the help you need. Use your insurance, get help.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DaHighLife: 6:36pm On Feb 24
bemeruca:


With all these she can face criminal charges because she has just admitted fraud. She took a lot of money from her campaign she said.

She retained a portion of the funds withdrawn from her personal bank account, which she had utilized for her campaign. Do you think she should face incarceration for retaining her own funds? What's the rationale behind expending bandwidth to disseminate easily verifiable falsehoods like this?
There is a persistent flow of misinformation in this thread perpetuated by the same bad actors.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DaHighLife: 6:59pm On Feb 24
JessicaRabbit:


I'm impressed by your ability to write so much without saying anything at all. Did you forget the "evidence" chapter in your handbook on righteous indignation? The cellphone data showing that Wade visited Willis' home 35 times in 2021, does not prove that they lied about when their affair started or that it affected their professional judgment. It's still within the realm of speculation, as far as legal processes are concerned. You really don't have any idea how this shit works, do you? You also mentioned that they profited from the prosecution, without evidence no less! You just shamelessly speculated that Willis reimbursed Wade in cash for his business expenses, which were allegedly used to fund their personal trips and gifts. However, this is not a solid basis for accusing them of fraud or corruption. Also, you ignore the fact that Wade's fees were approved by the state attorney general's office and that he has submitted detailed invoices and receipts for his work. Let's hold off on the jail sentences for Willis and Wade until we have something more substantial than feelings to go on, shall we?
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Valid points indeed, but I'd exercise caution regarding the claims made by the Trump team regarding the 'cell phone data.' They have previously asserted claims in signed affidavits, such as the assertion that Fanni was residing with Wade, which ultimately proved to be false. The specifics of the cell phone data remain unclear; we lack information on what data they possess, or whether it was obtained legally.

The manner in which they purportedly obtained personal cell phone information from not only an individual but also the prosecutor handling their case, without a court-approved subpoena and without the individual's knowledge, is striking. And to have it all done in less than 2 weeks is even more striking.

Furthermore, the timing of the filing on a Friday seems calculated to influence a potential jury pool, while placing the prosecutor in a disadvantaged position to respond promptly. Additionally, the subsequent amendment to the filing—from initially stating 12,000 texts to now referring to 12,000 interactions—raises more suspicions.

This filing raises red flags.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:11pm On Feb 24
JessicaRabbit:


You fail to acknowledge the difference in context, consent, and relevance when comparing Trump's photos with women to Carroll's photo with him. This is another false equivocation fallacy you've committed here. Trump denied ever meeting Carroll, and so her photo with him was intended to at least prove that she knew Trump personally, and that he had access to her. You should be crafting fiction, not debating facts. Even a soggy tissue offers more resistance than your current position. Perhaps when you finally grow the balls to answer these questions in good faith.....

.....you'll finally come to the realization that you have been on a wild goose chase as far as this topic is concerned.

There are many men who don't remember women they have slept with.
There are many women who don't remember all the men they have slept with
Trump owned Miss World franchise, you can be sure thousands of ladies wanted to know him personally. He also had casino, hosted bouts and endless parties.
At school a former classmate of his said he always showed up with different girls every week.
His 'body' count must be humongous, I would not be surprised his "conquests ' can circle the earth.Figuratively.
I don't hold Trump as my moral compass.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:21pm On Feb 24
DaHighLife:


Valid points indeed, but I'd exercise caution regarding the claims made by the Trump team regarding the 'cell phone data.' They have previously asserted claims in signed affidavits, such as the assertion that Fanni was residing with Wade, which ultimately proved to be false. The specifics of the cell phone data remain unclear; we lack information on what data they possess, or whether it was obtained legally.

The manner in which they purportedly obtained personal cell phone information from not only an individual but also the prosecutor handling their case, without a court-approved subpoena and without the individual's knowledge, is striking. And to have it all done in less than 2 weeks is even more striking.

Furthermore, the timing of the filing on a Friday seems calculated to influence a potential jury pool, while placing the prosecutor in a disadvantaged position to respond promptly. Additionally, the subsequent amendment to the filing—from initially stating 12,000 texts to now referring to 12,000 interactions—raises more suspicions.

This filing raises red flags.

I said earlier today that if it was the FBI, they eould indict the witness who claimed Wade and Fani were an item by 2019. The FBI would also discredit the data and declare it inadmissible.

That aside, the analyst used a tool that police use routinely. Callhawk.
You can look it up.

If the data analysis is correct, Fani and Wade lied. Families have been bankrupted by fbi for lying.
Since you are so concerned about jury pool, why didn't you complain about Fani going to a BLM affiliated church and saying they are going after her and
her lead Inquisitor because they are black. They didn't go after the other two white persecuters. That's poisoning the jury pool.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:27pm On Feb 24
DaHighLife:


She retained a portion of the funds withdrawn from her personal bank account, which she had utilized for her campaign. Do you think she should face incarceration for retaining her own funds? What's the rationale behind expending bandwidth to disseminate easily verifiable falsehoods like this?
There is a persistent flow of misinformation in this thread perpetuated by the same bad actors.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:39pm On Feb 24
JessicaRabbit:


This is a loaded question proceeding from a simplistic characterization of Letitia's investigation. She did not use tax assessment to evaluate the value of Trump properties, she used it to compare the value of Trump properties with the value of similar properties in the same area. She did this to show that there was a significant discrepancy between the values that Trump reported to the tax authorities and the values that he reported to the banks. This discrepancy suggests that he either inflated or deflated the value of his properties depending on his interests, which could amount to fraud. You're also ignoring the fact that Letitia did not rely solely on tax assessment, she also used other sources of information, such as appraisals, financial statements, loan documents, and expert opinions to corroborate and cross-check the data and provide a more comprehensive picture of the value of Trump properties.

Is the IRS complaining. Trump was s loud critic of Obama, being the public face of the birther movement. Let's not forget it's Hillary who started it but Trump ended it. Obama being the vindictive character would have unleashed Loise Lerner on him if there was a "there there'".
Valuation again. The loan request form has a different value thsn the tax returns.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 8:21pm On Feb 24
DaHighLife:


She retained a portion of the funds withdrawn from her personal bank account, which she had utilized for her campaign. Do you think she should face incarceration for retaining her own funds? What's the rationale behind expending bandwidth to disseminate easily verifiable falsehoods like this?
There is a persistent flow of misinformation in this thread perpetuated by the same bad actors.

Do you guys only know how to twist and lie about things? She took a chunk of her campaign money and use it personally for trips and pleasure. That's illegal. She said it herself but you want to explain to me it was her personal bank account. Even if she put her money in her campaign, she cannot take it back and use it personally.

Like the misinformation you are spreading.

And she mentioned she does not have receipt of fun withdrawals to back up your lie. No account statement. Spread lies then accuse others of spreading lies.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DaHighLife: 8:22pm On Feb 24
[quote author=basilico post=128629147][/quote]

I understand why some people might refer to you as a "time waster." You seem to persist in discussing topics about which you clearly have little understanding.

You can spend your own money on a campaign. Simply because you withdraw money from an account and intend to use it on your campaign does not automatically make it campaign funds. Fani withdrew money from her personal accounts, intending to use it for her campaign if necessary. However, she didn't end up using all of it and kept the remaining amount as cash. It's analogous to withdrawing $10,000 to buy a car, using only $5,000, and keeping the other $5,000 at home. This concept shouldn't be too difficult for you to grasp. There is nothing illegal about retaining your own money.

It's Saturday, and I'm taking my kids to a birthday party. If you are still unsure about this topic, I suggest you do a simple Google search for clarification.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 8:33pm On Feb 24
basilico:


You are the idiot. The investigation start afresh. That will be be against finding Trump guilty before elections.
Fani deserves jail. She lied in court filings and also under oath.

You are just too too dumb, wow.
You forgot a Jury founded Criminal trump and his goons afoul of the law. A JURY! A JURY! A JURY!

You are dumb as a rock.

And Fani deserves jail? 😁😁😂😂😂😁🤦🤦🤭

I believe you are not just ok up there. She deserves jail? WOW
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 8:39pm On Feb 24
bemeruca:


Do you guys only know how to twist and lie about things? She took a chunk of her campaign money and use it personally for trips and pleasure. That's illegal. She said it herself but you want to explain to me it was her personal bank account. Even if she put her money in her campaign, she cannot take it back and use it personally.

Like the misinformation you are spreading.

And she mentioned she does not have receipt of fun withdrawals to back up your lie. No account statement. Spread lies then accuse others of spreading lies.

When I say Maga cultists are the dumbest people on the planet, it's a FACT and not an Insult.

Why? Imagine this black man hater thinks it's just ok for Criminal trump to take millions out of his campaign fund and pay for his legal bills, but will love to masturbate to see a die-hard BLACK lady prosecutor behind bars for some wacko lies up in his head

These people are ridiculous twats and let's keep calling them out. Let's see how long they'll last after Criminal trump is gone.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 8:47pm On Feb 24
basilico:


There are many men who don't remember women they have slept with.
There are many women who don't remember all the men they have slept with
Trump owned Miss World franchise, you can be sure thousands of ladies wanted to know him personally. He also had casino, hosted bouts and endless parties.
At school a former classmate of his said he always showed up with different girls every week.
His 'body' count must be humongous, I would not be surprised his "conquests ' can circle the earth.Figuratively.
I don't hold Trump as my moral compass.

But you find it appropriate that this sexual assaulter and rapist become president of the most powerful country on Earth, again. You never revealed this side of your awareness when you always told us that the Criminal did nothing wrong.

This is a drastic change in your maga ideology, and bruh, it's gonna get worse for you. You never sounded like this years, even months back.

This was the exact path that happened to me until I realized christo fascism conspiracy theories were damaging my health and mental well being.

You've always held the Criminal to a higher standard that even now you think he is more righteous than the Catholic President Biden who's been with one woman for decades after his first wife passed on.

You on the path to enlightenment, just keep your thinking hat on, not the tin-foil.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 8:51pm On Feb 24
There's a certain black man hater who thinks dark skin and Latino voters are so in love with Criminal trump because he's a racist. That's how racist people think.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 8:53pm On Feb 24
Maga cultists are dumb, both the poor and the rich.
Imagine the chip invader maga hero of basilico loco posting this trash. I bet he would be proud.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DaHighLife: 8:55pm On Feb 24
bemeruca:


Do you guys only know how to twist and lie about things? She took a chunk of her campaign money and use it personally for trips and pleasure. That's illegal. She said it herself but you want to explain to me it was her personal bank account. Even if she put her money in her campaign, she cannot take it back and use it personally.

Like the misinformation you are spreading.

And she mentioned she does not have receipt of fun withdrawals to back up your lie. No account statement. Spread lies then accuse others of spreading lies.

I fail to comprehend the value you bring to this thread aside from juvenile insults and misinformation.

But, let's proceed as follows: Provide her exact words from her testimony transcript or a video recording of the hearing that confirms what you claim she said. Should you be unable to do so, I expect you to return here, acknowledge you lied, and offer an apology for calling me a liar. Conversely, if you are able to present evidence supporting your assertion, I will reciprocate accordingly.
Here is my evidence. I await yours.

From transcript: https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/cg/date/2024-02-15/segment/01
WILLIS: … What I was talking about is I ran for judge. When I ran for judge, I took $50,000 of my personal money out of my retirement and that money ended up being lost. And I know when you bet on yourself, you're going to have to bet money on yourself. And so, what I was talking about was not wanting to go to the personal financial expense of running for office. By no means that I think that I was going to be financially in a bad position once I won. Let's talk about what I was up against because it's important to understand that comment.

WILLIS: Right. But it is about my finances if I didn't -- nobody put me in this seat, so I had already run for office once. I had spit $50,000 of my own money running and it was then moot, nothing.

From transcript: https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/cnc/date/2024-02-15/segment/12
WILLIS: Cash is fungible. It have cash for years in my house. So for me to tell you the source of when it comes from, when you go to Publix then you buy something, you have $50, you throw it in there. It's been my whole life.

When I took out a large amount of money on my first campaign, I kept some of the cash of that. Like, to tell you, I just have cash in my house. I don't have as much today as I would normally have, but I'm building back up now. So you just put money in. It's a very good practice. I would advise it to all women.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 9:15pm On Feb 24
DaHighLife:


I fail to comprehend the value you bring to this thread aside from juvenile insults and misinformation.

But, let's proceed as follows: Provide her exact words from her testimony transcript or a video recording of the hearing that confirms what you claim she said. Should you be unable to do so, I expect you to return here, acknowledge you lied, and offer an apology for calling me a liar. Conversely, if you are able to present evidence supporting your assertion, I will reciprocate accordingly.
Here is my evidence. I await yours.

From transcript: https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/cg/date/2024-02-15/segment/01


From transcript: https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/cnc/date/2024-02-15/segment/12


How long before you run away from this moniker?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:21pm On Feb 24
Criminal trump just made the biggest blunder or told the most significant truth in his entire life.

President Biden's campaign is going to have a field day with this...on loop 😁

You need to see that clip to believe it. Lol

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 9:31pm On Feb 24
DaHighLife:


I fail to comprehend the value you bring to this thread aside from juvenile insults and misinformation.

But, let's proceed as follows: Provide her exact words from her testimony transcript or a video recording of the hearing that confirms what you claim she said. Should you be unable to do so, I expect you to return here, acknowledge you lied, and offer an apology for calling me a liar. Conversely, if you are able to present evidence supporting your assertion, I will reciprocate accordingly.
Here is my evidence. I await yours.

From transcript: https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/cg/date/2024-02-15/segment/01


From transcript: https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/cnc/date/2024-02-15/segment/12


What you did not do is show evidence to support the lie you told that she took it out of her bank account. Where is the statement? Why did she say she does not have statement of such?

From the links you have posted, show us a quote that support the lie you told.

From this same link, this is what she said:

When I took out a large amount of money on my first campaign, I kept some of the cash of that. Like, to tell you, I just have cash in my house. I don't have as much today as I would normally have, but I'm building back up now. So you just put money in. It's a very good practice. I would advise it to all women.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:05am On Feb 25
Obrigardo:
Maga cultists are dumb, both the poor and the rich.
Imagine the chip invader maga hero of basilico loco posting this trash. I bet he would be proud.

He's bored, lol. And not funny.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DaHighLife: 1:06am On Feb 25
bemeruca:


What you did not do is show evidence to support the lie you told that she took it out of her bank account. Where is the statement? Why did she say she does not have statement of such?

From the links you have posted, show us a quote that support the lie you told.

From this same link, this is what she said:

Ah, you are that type. I am not going to engage in semantic debates with you. I have more productive uses for my time.

This was the post upon which this argument hinged.
bemeruca:


With all these she can face criminal charges because she has just admitted fraud . She took a lot of money from her campaign she said.

Please provide evidence supporting your claim that she 'admitted fraud' and took 'a significant amount of money from her campaign'.

It appears you may have struggled to comprehend the quotation you referenced. Allow me to offer clarification:

When I took out a large amount of [my personal] money on my first campaign, I kept some of the cash of that. Like, to tell you, I just have cash in my house. I don't have as much today as I would normally have, but I'm building back up now. So you just put money in. It's a very good practice. I would advise it to all women.

Imagine transforming a somewhat inarticulate verbal retort into an elaborate illegal campaign fraud scheme. Alternatively, contemplate the notion of permitting an online influencer [probably a right wing one] to persuade you into believing she committed an illegal campaign conspiracy based on 1 somewhat inarticulate phrase. Imagine an individual who engages in such actions, thereby squandering everyone's time due to an inability to concede their error. Does this behavior align with the behavior of a rational, educated person?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:13am On Feb 25
Obrigardo:


But you find it appropriate that this sexual assaulter and rapist become president of the most powerful country on Earth, again. You never revealed this side of your awareness when you always told us that the Criminal did nothing wrong.

This is a drastic change in your maga ideology, and bruh, it's gonna get worse for you. You never sounded like this years, even months back.

This was the exact path that happened to me until I realized christo fascism conspiracy theories were damaging my health and mental well being.

You've always held the Criminal to a higher standard that even now you think he is more righteous than the Catholic President Biden who's been with one woman for decades after his first wife passed on.

You on the path to enlightenment, just keep your thinking hat on, not the tin-foil.

There is no change in my opinion of him. I have stated that previously.
Those who voted for him weren't voting fora saint , they know him very well.
His policies are what people want.
Is it wrong to want industries to go back to America. To curtail globalists efforts, to frack baby frack. to drain the swamp, to control illegal immigration, nominate conservative justices, help veterans, stop the wars and bring the boys back home, etc.
That's what people wanted and still do.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:27am On Feb 25
DaHighLife:


Ah, you are that type. I am not going to engage in semantic debates with you. I have more productive uses for my time.

This was the post upon which this argument hinged.


Please provide evidence supporting your claim that she 'admitted fraud' and took 'a significant amount of money from her campaign'.

It appears you may have struggled to comprehend the quotation you referenced. Allow me to offer clarification:



Imagine transforming a somewhat inarticulate verbal retort into an elaborate illegal campaign fraud scheme. Alternatively, contemplate the notion of permitting an online influencer [probably a right wing one] to persuade you into believing she committed an illegal campaign conspiracy based on 1 somewhat inarticulate phrase. Imagine an individual who engages in such actions, thereby squandering everyone's time due to an inability to concede their error. Does this behavior align with the behavior of a rational, educated person?



She took out her retirement out of the bank and kept the cash home to reimburse her lover. So far so good.

Trump did not use campaign money to reimburse Cohen yet he is overcharged by Alvin Bragg. Months after the feds saw no reason to press charges.

Is there any evidence she presented about withdrawing her money. Fani uses Actblue to fundraise. Im pretty sure some money to her is dark money. A rich person/org dumps money to act blue. They spread it to recepients in small donations
impersonating small donors who are not aware .
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:48pm On Feb 25
bemeruca:


i am sure she was just in a photo not like he was taking a photo with her.

Ok. I accuse you of rape in my book. Hello your DNA can be detected on the dress I wore only once , in a year I don't remember, in similar circumstances to a TV episode 7 years to the day I accuse you of rape.When book sales don't pick up I do a least 4 TV interviews.

Lincoln Project founder Conway George introduced her to Trump hater Reid Hoffman whose money pays her lawyers. How hard eouod be for Kelly Conway's husband to obtain Trump DNA...from his hair, golf ball, saliva, glass etc and plant it on that dress?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:01pm On Feb 25
JessicaRabbit:


When will it seep through to your fragile brain that Engoron based his ruling on the Martin Act, which does not require proof of intent or reliance, only that the defendants made false or misleading statements in connection with the offer or sale of securities? Letitia James sued Trump and his companies under the Martin Act, a law that gives her broad authority to investigate and prosecute securities fraud in New York.
Engoron did not fine Trump for the profit he made on the DC hotel. That's just a complete misinterpretation of the case. He ordered him to disgorge the profit he made from the fraud, which was the difference between the amount of money he borrowed and the amount of money he would have been able to borrow if he had told the truth about
his assets. The disgorgement order was not based on the type of loan (recourse or non-recourse), but on the amount of money that the defendants obtained by fraud.

The Martin Act is not meant to protect the consumer or the lender, as you falsely claim. It is meant to protect the public and the integrity of the securities market from fraud and deception. It is not a partisan or political tool, but a powerful and effective weapon against white-collar crime, and the case against Trump and his companies was driven by overwhelming evidence and compelling arguments. Of course you have not read the judgment, because you are all too comfortable making up specious suggestions that cater to your own narratives.

I'm surprised you have not deleted this piece where you get to invent lies.
I don't think you are like others who parrot talking points, you invented a complete make believe lie knowingly.

Whata lie in bold. He lied to get the loan to lease DC post office. How much would he have gotten if he had told the truth about his net worth. How much was he worth and by how much did he inflate his wealth?How much loan did he get for refurbishment of Old Post office in DC , and from which bank.
You don't know jack.
I won't let you get away with this whopper.

Jessicarabbit the liar. Buzzfeed hates Trump, they were the first to publish Steele junk dossier, after getting a heads up from FBI. They describe negatively how Trump came to control the 60 year lease of DC post office.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/aramroston/how-donald-trump-won-control-of-a-prized-dc-landmark

Reading through leaves no doubt they were grovelling , the article was before the election so it's pretty accurate, Clinton was a 99% odds winner then.

Who loaned Trump the money? Deutsche Bank. $170m in total.
At his trial s DB executive was full of praise for Trump, saying he was a top tier client And he acknowledged they used their own valuation to advance the loan.
Where did you get your drivel (in bold) from? What credible source is that?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:59pm On Feb 25
basilico:


She took out her retirement out of the bank and kept the cash home to reimburse her lover. So far so good.

Trump did not use campaign money to reimburse Cohen yet he is overcharged by Alvin Bragg. Months after the feds saw no reason to press charges.

Is there any evidence she presented about withdrawing her money. Fani uses Actblue to fundraise. Im pretty sure some money to her is dark money. A rich person/org dumps money to act blue. They spread it to recepients in small donations
impersonating small donors who are not aware .

DaHighLife or DaHighLiar is playing dumb by not giving the full context of what is going on.
Fani willis:

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When I took out a large amount of money on my first campaign, I kept some of the cash of that. Like, to tell you, I just have cash in my house. I don't have as much today as I would normally have, but I'm building back up now. So you just put money in. It's a very good practice. I would advise it to all women.

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When I ran for[b] judge, I took $50,000 of my personal money out of my retirement[/b] and that money ended up being lost. And I know when you bet on yourself, you're going to have to bet money on yourself. And so, what I was talking about was not wanting to go to the personal financial expense of running for office. By no means that I think that I was going to be financially in a bad position once I won. Let's talk about what I was up against because it's important to understand that comment.

she clearly said earlier that she KEPT money left over from her first campaign...but her later testimony contradicts that statement when she then says she LOST that money and was broke ..so which is it??...did she keep some of that money or did she lose it on the campaign.

she should be investigated for campaign finance violations. She is a fraud. funny enough, she said she does not have receipts for all this nonsense.



WILLIS: Yeah, that that I'm sure I characterize myself. I was broke as leaving that $50,000. I don't know that I had-- her nascent law practice had paltry, I didn't have --
WILLIS: No, I don't think that that is actually a fair and accurate representation, but I am certain that after the 2018 election I'm still not really happy about having given up that 50,000.

She said she took the money and put it into her campaign, she talked about losing that money, but somehow still kept a large amount of that money she lost.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 2:21pm On Feb 25
bemeruca:


DaHighLife or DaHighLiar is playing dumb by not giving the full context of what is going on.
Fani willis:

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she clearly said earlier that she KEPT money left over from her first campaign...but her later testimony contradicts that statement when she then says she LOST that money and was broke ..so which is it??...did she keep some of that money or did she lose it on the campaign.

she should be investigated for campaign finance violations. She is a fraud. funny enough, she said she does not have receipts for all this nonsense.




She said she took the money and put it into her campaign, she talked about losing that money, but somehow still kept a large amount of that money she lost.

I mentioned Actblue. Full story. Expect the crooks to investigate themselves?

https://www.georgiarecord.com/election-integrity/2023/08/31/explosive-revelation-fani-willis-linked-to-massive-election-fraud-and-money-laundering-rico-enterprise/

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 2:26pm On Feb 25
basilico:


His policies are what people want.
Is it wrong to want industries to go back to America. To curtail globalists efforts, to frack baby frack. to drain the swamp, to control illegal immigration, nominate conservative justices, help veterans, stop the wars and bring the boys back home, etc.
That's what people wanted and still do.

Is it wrong to want industries to go back to America. - Dumbo, American manufacturing is at its HIGHEST PEAK EVER. That's why the stock market is in overdrive. You are still so low bro. Do you have any idea how many manufacturing companies have stationed their headquarters back from abroad under President Biden? You are still living in 2016 delusion.

to frack baby frack - Another stupid and idiotic willful ignorance. Fracking and American oil production is at an all time high, higher than criminal trump's admin. You are still so slow. frack baby frack crack your empty skull there, mumu.

to control illegal immigration - Maga idiot. President Biden and bipartisan senate came together with the strongest border deal in decades, but your criminal trump and maga insurrectionists in congress don't want to pass it so they can keep on campaigning on open borders because they got nothing to win votes. A dull man like you won't even know criminal trump didn't even finish the wall he was shouting all for, Mexico didn't pay for anything - heck, even President Biden made Mexico pledge money to strengthen their side of the border. Do you even know Bannon is going on trial this may for We build the wall scam where he and his goons stole money from maga donors who thought they were raising funds for the wall criminal trump didn't build? You are toooo slooooow.

nominate conservative justices - How many conservative justices do you want again idiot? Tell me the reason why you need them. The abortion ban and IVF restriction is not enough for you? You want to masturbate on the handmaid's tale scenario? You dumb maga piece of shit!

help veterans - Silly maga cultist doesn't even know the track record of maga gop voting against veteran benefits in Congress. What a dull man. If only you knew current news, you won't be writing this shit. Mugu. And when your criminal overlord derides John McCain and calls fallen soldiers suckers and losers. The criminal who deferred from serving in the Army FIVE TIMES. Please just roll away into your trash pile. Idiot!

stop the wars and bring the boys back home - As stupid as this sound, this is the maga cultist salivating on the prospect of killer putin invading europe and starting an all out third world war. You have never advocated for more aid to Ukraine so we can shut killer putin up for good. You have made arguments for why the killer invaded Ukraine and why he must steal territories to build his new Soviet Union.

SO MR DUMB MAGA CHUCKLEFUCK, SHUT THE HELL UP! YOU ARE JUST TOO SLOW MAN

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 2:45pm On Feb 25
Obrigardo:


Is it wrong to want industries to go back to America. - Dumbo, American manufacturing is at its HIGHEST PEAK EVER. That's why the stock market is in overdrive. You are still so low bro. Do you have any idea how many manufacturing companies have stationed their headquarters back from abroad under President Biden? You are still living in 2016 delusion.

to frack baby frack - Another stupid and idiotic willful ignorance. Fracking and American oil production is at an all time high, higher than criminal trump's admin. You are still so slow. frack baby frack crack your empty skull there, mumu.

to control illegal immigration - Maga idiot. President Biden and bipartisan senate came together with the strongest border deal in decades, but your criminal trump and maga insurrectionists in congress don't want to pass it so they can keep on campaigning on open borders because they got nothing to win votes. A dull man like you won't even know criminal trump didn't even finish the wall he was shouting all for, Mexico didn't pay for anything - heck, even President Biden made Mexico pledge money to strengthen their side of the border. Do you even know Bannon is going on trial this may for We build the wall scam where he and his goons stole money from maga donors who thought they were raising funds for the wall criminal trump didn't build? You are toooo slooooow.

nominate conservative justices - How many conservative justices do you want again idiot? Tell me the reason why you need them. The abortion ban and IVF restriction is not enough for you? You want to masturbate on the handmaid's tale scenario? You dumb maga piece of shit!

help veterans - Silly maga cultist doesn't even know the track record of maga gop voting against veteran benefits in Congress. What a dull man. If only you knew current news, you won't be writing this shit. Mugu. And when your criminal overlord derides John McCain and calls fallen soldiers suckers and losers. The criminal who deferred from serving in the Army FIVE TIMES. Please just roll away into your trash pile. Idiot!

stop the wars and bring the boys back home - As stupid as this sound, this is the maga cultist salivating on the prospect of killer putin invading europe and starting an all out third world war. You have never advocated for more aid to Ukraine so we can shut killer putin up for good. You have made arguments for why the killer invaded Ukraine and why he must steal territories to build his new Soviet Union.

SO MR DUMB MAGA CHUCKLEFUCK, SHUT THE HELL UP! YOU ARE JUST TOO SLOW MAN

Father forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.


Jesus would have changed just two or three words for you in this prayer.

I'm not in America. Most of America resonates with my few examples. Except for those deeply buried in JBs snout.

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