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Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by bukatyne(f): 6:50am On Feb 29 |
Kobojunkie: Why should she be tossed out of the position? She is doing the best with the resources handed to her: a 'Nigerian' husband and his wife. It is not her duty to train men for marriage or tell women to pick right or tell both parties to work towards creating a harmonious marriage. She is only advising women to avoid becoming a stats in her office because like she said, if a woman is not ready to leave the marriage and gets beaten, it is the same apology she gets for keeping quiet she gets for injuries sometimes irreparable. Even if the husband is punished, the injuries are irreparable. Or what sort of punishment would bring back a damaged eye or broken leg? 1 Like |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by JessicaRabbit(f): 6:50am On Feb 29 |
I'm surprised that in this day and age, people can make posts like this full of basic fallacies and stereotypes, and no one bats an eye. Probably has to do with Nigeria's patriarchal society. Armaggedon: A woman has every right to judge how a man treats her and her family, especially if he is abusive or neglectful. Love isn't a participation trophy. It's a two-way street paved with kindness, open communication, and the understanding that abuse and neglect are major potholes no relationship should drive through. A responsible man is a man that plays his role and fulfils his obligation to his family and not a man without ego. Every man has ego and pride while every woman crave for care and attention. You are making a sweeping generalization that assumes that all men have the same personality traits and needs, just as all women do. Stereotypes aren't entirely justified, you know. You also imply that gender roles and obligation are fixed and predetermined -- which is a sexist and outdated view that ignores the diversity and complexity of the human species. A responsible man is a man that respects his partner and his family, and does not let his ego and pride get in the way of their happiness and well-being. A responsible woman is a woman that does the same. Every person, regardless of gender, has ego and pride, as well as care and attention. These are not mutually exclusive or incompatible. In most cases of domestic violence (not all) it's provocation by women that cause it. If you provoke a man to act violently on you and you expect to blackmail him with "maturity" or "responsibility" you are not helping yourself since you both are most likely going to reconcile. Even if you decide to abandon the marriage, you are not leaving intact, and he has far better chances of remarry than you. Who lost. This is a classic example of victim-blaming, which is a form of psychological abuse that shifts the blame from the perpetrator to the victim. It also uses fear, guilt, and shame to manipulate the victim into staying in the abusive relationship. There is absolutely no justification for domestic violence, and no one deserves to be abused. Provocation is not a valid excuse, and maturity and responsibility are not blackmail. They are the minimum requirements for a healthy and respectful relationship. What's the point of exchanging words since you can simply keep quiet and save your children from watching scenes of violence. This is the point the minister is making. It's true that exchanging words in a heated environment may easily escalate issues, but you can't use that context to justify a complete lack of communication in a relationship. In any conflict, both parties should be able to express their feelings, thoughts, and needs, and to resolve conflicts peacefully and constructively. Silence is not a solution, it is a symptom of fear and oppression. You are falsely equating verbal communication with physical violence, while suggesting that the victim is responsible for preventing the violence by remaining silent. How is this not gaslighting? Aren't you denying the victim's voice and reality? Use of seemingly hurtful words on wife doesn't indicate lack of love from husband. Even so, men will apologize in most cases when the rage is over. I'm sorry, but this is the most ludicrous thing I've heard this month. Since when did husbands transcend the mortal realm to the point where their words and actions become unconditional and unquestionable? If a man or woman can't control their speech, then they simply lack respect, empathy, and compassion, which are essential components of love. If as a man, you find yourself in an emotionally abusive relationship where your wife doesn't listen to you and has no iota of respect for you, despite all your efforts, you can try letting go of your ego and approach her. Let her understand how she's making you feel, and if her lack of respect persists, then I don't see why you shouldn't prioritize your mental health, and leave that prison of a relationship. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by bukatyne(f): 6:52am On Feb 29 |
Mansa6: And you don’t realise that it is only dictators that you always keep quiet for whether they are right or wrong? 1 Like |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by DaytonaAries(f): 6:59am On Feb 29 |
It's the response from men for me. Nigeria still has a long way to go in educating the male child. In a saner country; do you think you can beat your your wife for arguing with you? Men in this post are glorifying domestic violence. Do you think if some women shut up their husband won't beat them. Go to homes for women that have been abused. You would know that domestic violence isn't a thing of just keeping your mouth shut. Some women if they breathe the wrong way, thier husband would beat them, if they sit they wrong way, they get beat up even infront of their kids. Some men even ask their kids to beat the mother. How a whole Minister of women affairs can come hear and say such things and think keeping quiet would stop domestic violence is appalling. You need to teach people no one has the right to hit anyone just because they have an argument with you. Would men beat uo their bosses or colleagues for the same argument? No they would not. The response from men in this post just reeks of ignorance on domestic violence issues. It Just reeks of poverty riddled mentality and lack of exposure. I don't blame them, it is the society that makes them think it is right to beat up their wives and get away with it I blame. |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by luminouz(m): 7:09am On Feb 29 |
MrBrownJay1: Leave me alone naaaaa... Agbaya oshi!!! |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by luminouz(m): 7:15am On Feb 29 |
DaytonaAries:Shût ya ass up and stop being emotional. You and I both know the minister has a point. But feminazis like you Huff and Puff and end up saying nothing. What experience do you have to counter that of a woman who prolly is old enough to be your mother? Unless you don't understand English, she advocated for peace in the house and a way for women to handle issues with their husbands but here you are, screaming your head off, thinking by arguing incessantly is the way forward. Some women outrightly demean their husbands, some physically fight him, others deliberately frustrated his life to a point he lashes out the only way he knows, by physical violence. The minister is just saying you lots should mind how you address your husbands- FOR PEACE TO REIGN. Yet here you are, already abusing the men and calling them vile names. You need to take the minister's advice and learn to shût dafuq UP Just to bust your bubble, domestic violence occurs abroad too but it's not talked about in newspapers. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by MrBrownJay1(m): 7:15am On Feb 29 |
luminouz: see this man suffering from amnesia...YOU are the one who quoted me with your nonsense! |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by DaytonaAries(f): 7:15am On Feb 29 |
bukatyne: Really? That is the only advice she can give women. She can't advice women that no one should be assaulting them most especially their husbands. She can't educate women that if their husband beats them up for an argument they should consider leaving their marriages. Why should women be the ones to shut up and remain in silence for the fear that their husband would beat them up? That is making a mockery of women that have gone through domestic violence. A man that would beat his wife up during an argument would beat the wife up if he isn't satisfied with something else. Instead of her to educate women that domestic violence shouldn't be tolerated and end this "dictator and servant" mindset. She is in all facts asking women who are dissatisfied to keep quiet so their husband won't beat them up! How is that a sane thing to say. Educate women on their rights. Assault and battery are crinimal offences that if any person commits needs to be held accountable. Women are human beings too. They have feelings. Not all women are perfect but that doesn't mean that they should be keep num when they find things unfavourable to them just becuase their husband would beat them up during an argument. This Minister could have done better please! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by luminouz(m): 7:16am On Feb 29 |
MrBrownJay1: Agbayaaaaaa!!! Shioorrrr |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by luminouz(m): 7:19am On Feb 29 |
DaytonaAries:Now I know that your brain is full of relaxer!!! People like you threaten hell fire and brimstone and yet you are not even married. So when she educates women to leave their husbands, the home is now blessed? The children are blessed? Or the home is blissful? Someone is trying to mend homes across the country and you are here saying nonsense. Someone old enough to give birth to you. What on earth do you know compared to her? Rubbish post, you full of. |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by dododawa1: 7:31am On Feb 29 |
Time will tell |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by DaytonaAries(f): 7:31am On Feb 29 |
luminouz: This your post reeks of your ignorance of leaving in a patriarchal society. You say I am being emotional? Then you must be delusional. I won't insult you because you already lack intellect and I don't blame you. There is nothing I would say that would change your "poverty riddled mindset" much less on issues like domestic violence. From the way you are foaming at the mouth I can see that you don't like being countered. I would say one thing: women aren't perfect and if a woman decides to assault or get down with her husband then she lacks intellect or is variably stupid. But that doesn't mean that because an husband and wife have an argument, he has a right to beat her up. No one has a right to hit anyone just because they have an argument with you. Men need to know that is not right. You don't tell women to keep quiet in fear that they would get beat up. You invariably assume every household is the same. You think that every woman and man are the same. Domestic violence is a real societal issue. You educate women on their rights as a Minster and don't give advice that push away the problem. Again, no matter what I say it won't change your mindset. 1 Like |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by luminouz(m): 7:33am On Feb 29 |
DaytonaAries:You won't insult me after saying I lack intellect? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Shey na compliment you shower me with then ni? OLODO rabata!!! Oh, so my opinion is due to my 'poverty-riddled mindset'? I guess your own opinion is because you are rich? 🤣🤣🤣 You see how argumentative you already are. The minister is sha warning you or you go collect wotowoto. Go and marry first. Then you go leaaaarrnnnnn!!! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by MrBrownJay1(m): 7:37am On Feb 29 |
luminouz: |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by luminouz(m): 7:37am On Feb 29 |
MrBrownJay1:Better...now go away. |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by MrBrownJay1(m): 7:40am On Feb 29 |
luminouz: why you keep quoting me? |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by luminouz(m): 7:40am On Feb 29 |
MrBrownJay1:Lemme naaaa... |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by DaytonaAries(f): 7:43am On Feb 29 |
luminouz: This just proves my point. Mentioning wotowoto because I have a conflicting opinion to yours or because I called you ignorant or you lack intellect which is no way an insult. Going through the quotes between you and another member of this ame issue who gave a response similar to mine. You had the same reaction. I can see you would be a person give your wife wotowoto if she so much as argues with you. This is the reason why you and most people with this mindset need to be educated. |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by descarado: 7:46am On Feb 29 |
Nigerian women have heard her. At the end of the day as you treat your wife like a slave not a partner, the arms of another man awaits her in secret. It may be your close friend whom she ran to for advice or your brother. I remembered a thread here saying Nigerian married women ranked first in committing adultery and most kids are not fathered by their husbands. So, let's continue to be the Nigerian version of alpha male while their wives look for happiness and fulfilment elsewhere What was in practise in developed nations the men stopped it because the emotional chain of bondage and it caused was more that their ego satisfaction. An unhappy wife equals unhappy nation. Do your research. I reckon it's fear that made this woman spew this rubbish. 3 Likes |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by Armaggedon: 7:54am On Feb 29 |
wany:good luck! |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by GreatAchiever1: 8:22am On Feb 29 |
JessicaRabbit:Nigeria is in no way a patriarchal society. If we were, do you think women will be in political seats, if we were, do you think women will be able to vote during an election. If we were, do you think this political seat where this woman is occupying will even exist? My dear, you have no idea what a Patriarchal society looks like. What do you even mean by abusive? Have you even considered what may lead to the "abuse", this is why it's important to keep quiet especially in context where the man is not in the right frame of mind at that moment. I thought women were the emotional one and have empathy. Of course, you can communicate how you feel, but you should do that with respect and a gentle and submissive attitude, with that he is more liable to listen attentive to what is bothering you. Of course gender roles are fixed and predetermined, this is seen in the bible, historical America, as well as one's own culture. I never cease to stop saying this, MARRIAGE IS NOT PARTNERSHIP, I don't know where this nonsense came from. Marriage is a hierarchical union. If you can't stay under a man, please don't get married and stop spreading this partnership nonsense, marriage is not a business company. What usually makes "domestic violence" occurs if not disrespect from a wife to husband. The funny thing is that this domestic violence of a thing doesn't reduce, it increases daily. The more women keep seeing themselves equal to their husbands, the higher the possibility of the so called "domestic violence" and divorce.
Why would you even dare to exchange words with your husband (this is due to the partnership idea of marriage). Can you exchange words with your boss at work? Can you even exchange words with your father at home. If no, how can you think even of exchanging words with your husband. When you emphasize on communication in marriage, it sounds as if the husband and wife don't talk at all. They just wake up, eat, pray, go out, come back, have sex together, sleep without communication and interactions as if they're programmed to do all these every day without saying a word to each other.
When you mention love, I just knew you meant romantic love, you know from the ones seen in Hollywood media. Do you think those kind of euphoric emotion of love chemicals won't disappear with time. My dear, a man loves his wife if he can provide, protect, lead, and be a priest/prophet in his home, a woman likewise loves her husband if she can be gentle, help, be submissive, quiet and nurture the home as she builds it in accordance to the husbands leading. 1 Like |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by placeofallure(f): 8:27am On Feb 29 |
Armaggedon: I am a woman and I agree with you. If in the case of any eventuality, I can on my own take care of the family. Despite that fact, do you know what I call my husband? I call him "My Lord." A man will always have ego, but you can massage it if you are a wise woman. He is My Lord but I can send him to do anything, underline it, Yes Anything for me. He's always willing, he's more than caring, he's a good man but I never take him for granted. He eats my food, I still thank him for eating. But he never takes anything for granted too. He's more organized than me, he thinks ahead and gets things done even before I remember them. A wise woman builds her home, a stupid one uses her own hands to scatter it! I like this advice from the Minister. Don't run mad together; if you must run mad at all, reserve your own Werey till another time. K'oluwa ma ṣọ wa o! 2 Likes |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by GreatAchiever1: 8:32am On Feb 29 |
descarado:E be like say you have never heard about feminism before. Also you haven't seen the stats of the so called womens happiness since the emergence of feminism till the present date. And since when did it become men's responsibility to be the source of women's happiness? 1 Like |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by worksmart(m): 8:38am On Feb 29 |
She is just saying common sense. God created a man to be head of the family/ household and a woman to support him. How far would you get in your job if you have habit of arguing with you boss? Honestly feminism is a cancer. |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by tnerro1(m): 8:44am On Feb 29 |
Chai, see performing minister 😁 |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by MrBrownJay1(m): 8:46am On Feb 29 |
luminouz:
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Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by JayPeeOham: 8:50am On Feb 29 |
tunjijones: Same way it is also very difficult for a man to love or why do you think GOD Almighty had to make it as a command to both parties - he said Husband, Love thy wife and Wife, submit to thy husband. So by default those 2 are the recipes for a peaceful marriage. Just imagine a home where the husband loves his wife and the wife submits to he r husband. I tell you everything else will fall in place. Just like some people above are saying that all men have ego which is true but that ego is crushed on the altar of love and submission 1 Like |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by Chucks13: 8:55am On Feb 29 |
GlorifiedGod: Those two won't learn i pray they don't ends up as a member of feminist gang who have allowed arrogant and pride to make them outlived their marital market value and turn Tiger like Iyabo Ojo, Chika Ike, Kemi Oluloyo, Aduni, Genevive etc. 2 Likes |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by worksmart(m): 8:57am On Feb 29 |
Feminism is not for Africa or even black women, it is the agenda they use to in white countries to destroy the black family. DaytonaAries: |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by Khyrvxjzy: 9:06am On Feb 29 |
Armaggedon: amotolongbo chill my children. let all agree something a man must not beat his woman: no matter what no beat your wife, kuku leave the marriage and a woman must not raise voice at the man: man can never be equal with the wife, a man is the head so wife should learn to keep quite, you as woman if your husband too annoy you for you to talk and frustrate him, leave the marriage ire oooo |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by luminouz(m): 9:16am On Feb 29 |
DaytonaAries:Kindly go and rest. Parrot!!! |
Re: Shut Up During Argument With Your Husbands - Women Affairs Minister Begs Women by bukatyne(f): 9:32am On Feb 29 |
DaytonaAries: You first need to understand her goal before advising what she can do and can't do. The minister's goal isn't a happy marriage or a healthy marriage; it is not her business and outside her jurisdiction. Her goal is to ensure that the number of women who show up in her office due to physical domestic violence reduces. The next thing is for her to determine the resources she has to do so: a 'Nigerian' husband and his wife. Then she maximises her resources: it is easier and more productive to tell wives to keep shut to avoid been beaten than to tell husbands not to beat their wives. Just how you tell people to keep their valuables and not flaunt themselves online than tell thieves and kidnappers not to rob. You don't appeal to a thief not to steal; that is his nature just how you don't appeal to a 'Nigerian' husband not to physically abuse his wife. You only put penalties in place when they do according to their nature. The PDV is a bit different because the wife has to report and be willing to leave the marriage. And telling women to leave their homes due to PDV hasn't yielded much fruit. They leave when they want to leave. Again, there is a difference between physical domestic violence and two fighting..... So the minister's advice would honestly reduce 'two fighting' scenarios which is similar to the advice of men walk out when the argument starts to degenerate. 1 Like |
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