If ordinary heat could be this painful and tormenting, brothers and sisters it is my humble advice that, while yet we live, we should do all we can to avoid the place called HELL🔥🔥🔥
We should make haste to repent of our sins and turn to Jesus Christ in total surrender so that our souls can be spared from the agony of eternal suffering in HELL🔥🔥🔥
2Chronicles 7 vs 14

Minime10:
If ordinary heat could be this painful and tormenting, brothers and sisters it is my humble advice that while yet we live, we should all we can to avoid the place called HELL🔥🔥🔥

Hell simply means Grave!

MaxInDHouse:

Hell simply means Grave!

As in hellfire does not exist?

MaxInDHouse:

Hell simply means Grave!

No sir. There is indeed a place called HELL according to the Holy Scripture.
Please find time to look up the following portion of the Scripture;
Psalms 9: 17
Mathew 10 : 28
Mark 9: 43 to 48
Luke 16: 23
God bless you.

MaxInDHouse:

Hell simply means Grave!

Yes Hell simply means Grave were there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth and where the worms don't die nor the fire quench. Mark9:48

Weldone o, Johovah witness.

We were born sinners so hell is inevitable
Just don't spend your eternity there
Become aware of where you are and move out

EreluRoz:
As in hellfire does not exist?

The word they translated to HELL is Sheoul in Hebrew and Hades in Greek both means the common grave of mankind and Jesus was in Hell for three days until God raised him from the dead!
The word they translated to Hellfire is Gehenna in Hebrew it's a place behind the wall of Jerusalem where refuse are dumped and the carcasses of dead animals and criminals.
Jews believe that whoever is not given a defeating burial will not be resurrected since such a person did nothing worthy of remembrance.
So Jesus was telling the Jews that the same way they throw useless things into Gehenna that's how God will treat faithless miscreants.

Minime10:

No sir. There is indeed a place called HELL according to the Holy Scripture.
Please find time to look up the following portion of the Scripture;
Psalms 9: 17
Mathew 10 : 28
Mark 9: 43 to 48
Luke 16: 23
God bless you.

Psalms 9:17 is the inspired word God revealed to David.
All evildoers will be forgotten in their graves the rest are Jesus' own words of course he was speaking in parables God never thought of tormenting living or dead creatures! Jeremiah 7:31
Thank you!

Jackanda1:
Yes Hell simply means Grave were there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth and where the worms don't die nor the fire quench. Mark9:48

Weldone o, Johovah witness.

In the grave there is no knowledge nor activity! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

MaxInDHouse:

The word they translated to HELL is Sheoul in Hebrew and Hades in Greek both means the common grave of mankind and Jesus was in Hell for three days until God raised him from the dead!
The word they translated to Hellfire is Gehenna in Hebrew it's a place behind the wall of Jerusalem where refuse are dumped and the carcasses of dead animals and criminals.
Jews believe that whoever is not given a defeating burial will not be resurrected since such a person did nothing worthy of remembrance.
So Jesus was telling the Jews that the same way they throw useless things into Gehenna that's how God will treat faithless miscreants.

Muslims also believe in hellfire, so what do you have to say concerning that?
Also what happens to sinners in the afterlife?

EreluRoz:
Muslims also believe in hellfire, so what do you have to say concerning that?
Also what happens to sinners in the afterlife?

Muslims have nothing to do with the truth in God's word, remember i too was a Muslim.

There is no afterlife for evildoers they will not be remembered during the resurrection! Psalms 9:17

MaxInDHouse:

Muslims have nothing to do with the truth in God's word, remember i too was a Muslim.

There is no afterlife for evildoers they will not be remembered during the resurrection! Psalms 9:17

So resurrection is for the righteous and sinners will just vanish? What will be their reward for all the atrocities they committed while living on earth?

EreluRoz:
So resurrection is for the righteous and sinners will just vanish? What will be their reward for all the atrocities they committed while living on earth?

What is the wages of sin? Romans 6:23

God's word said when a person dies he has fully paid for all his atrocities! Romans 6:7

MaxInDHouse:

What is the wages of sin? Romans 6:23

God's word said when a person dies he has fully paid for all his atrocities! Romans 6:7

So after committing all forms of atrocities there's no punishment in the afterlife, it's just death and only the righteous will resurrect to enjoy eternal life? Hard to believe

EreluRoz:
So after committing all forms of atrocities there's no punishment in the afterlife, it's just death and only the righteous will resurrect to enjoy eternal life? Hard to believe

Well it's because God had nothing in mind for evildoers except destruction! Genesis 3:19

You don't know what they are missing because you think this is life shey?

How i wish you gain access to Paradise where we will live as youths forever without getting sick nor dying and able to move wherever we want anytime of the day and night without any fear.

Ọmọ just study God's word and gain the real life because there's no life here compared to what is prepared for us in Paradise!

MaxInDHouse:


Well it's because God had nothing in mind for evildoers except destruction! Genesis 3:19

You don't know what they are missing because you think this is life shey?

How i wish you gain access to Paradise where we will live as youths forever without getting sick nor dying and able to move wherever we want anytime of the day and night without any fear.

Ọmọ just study God's word and gain the real life because there's no life here compared to what is prepared for us in Paradise!

Well, after all the evil, they perish with the sand and no hell fire anywhere to burn them till eternity as we are made to believe? God is indeed a merciful God

EreluRoz:
Well, after all the evil, they perish with the sand and no hell fire anywhere to burn them till eternity as we are made to believe? God is indeed a merciful God

Satan is using the idea of Hellfire doctrine to promote what he said in the beginning:

At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die" Genesis 3:4

God told Adam and Eve that failure to live by His rules they will die (seize to exist) Satan said they will not seize to exist and ever since then Satan and his demons have been promoting this idea using false religion.

So when you hear of eternal punishment in Hellfire it's like telling the evildoers "you will suffer in a prepared place with other evildoers" of course many wicked people will love that as they're anticipating seeing their enemies there so they can continue their enmity but God has no such arrangement for evildoers to Him they are like waste products to be destroyed and forgotten!

MaxInDHouse:


Satan is using the idea of Hellfire doctrine to promote what he said in the beginning:

At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die" Genesis 3:4

God told Adam and Eve that failure to live by His rules they will die (seize to exist) Satan said they will not seize to exist and ever since then Satan and his demons have been promoting this idea using false religion.

So when you hear of eternal punishment in Hellfire it's like telling the evildoers "you will suffer in a prepared place with other evildoers" of course many wicked people will love that as they're anticipating seeing their enemies there so they can continue their enmity but God has no such arrangement for evildoers to Him they are like waste products to be destroyed and forgotten!

hmm jw are very vast in knowledge

EreluRoz:
hmm jw are very vast in knowledge

Baby girl the true God has nothing evil at all in His thoughts towards anyone be you good or evil {Jeremiah 7:31} all He wants is for everyone to enjoy what He prepared from the beginning which is life without end but then if anyone chooses to be evil and they won't change their ways the only way out is to return them to where He brought them: dust! Genesis 3:19

No matter the evil done by the evildoers God can restore it all within a second, have they killed anyone? Have they destroyed anything?
God can restore whatever they destroyed so it's their soul that God wants to be saved whatever they had done in the past is repairable!

MaxInDHouse:


In the grave there is no knowledge nor activity! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

Ofcourse, the physical body is dead and decaying in the GRAVE, hence no knowledge nor activity.

But the spiritual body is eternal and If found wanting, would spend eternity weeping and gnashing of teeth, where the worm don't die nor the fire quenched. Mark9:48.

If you keep ignoring the scripture i have quoted, i can't help you further.

Jackanda1:

Ofcourse, the physical body is dead and decaying in the GRAVE, hence no knowledge nor activity.
But the spiritual body is eternal and If found wanting, would spend eternity weeping and gnashing of teeth, where the worm don't die nor the fire quenched. Mark9:48.
If you keep ignoring the scripture i have quoted, i can't help you further.

You're mixing up illustrations but it's OK live a good life now and earn everlasting life in God's Kingdom! Psalms 37:29

MaxInDHouse:


Baby girl the true God has nothing evil at all in His thoughts towards anyone be you good or evil {Jeremiah 7:31} all He wants is for everyone to enjoy what He prepared from the beginning which is life without end but then if anyone chooses to be evil and they won't change their ways the only way out is to return them to where He brought them: dust! Genesis 3:19

No matter the evil done by the evildoers God can restore it all within a second, have they killed anyone? Have they destroyed anything?
God can restore whatever they destroyed so it's their soul that God wants to be saved whatever they had done in the past is repairable!

This is deep though

MaxInDHouse:

The word they translated to HELL is Sheoul in Hebrew and Hades in Greek both means the common grave of mankind and Jesus was in Hell for three days until God raised him from the dead!
The word they translated to Hellfire is Gehenna in Hebrew it's a place behind the wall of Jerusalem where refuse are dumped and the carcasses of dead animals and criminals.
Jews believe that whoever is not given a defeating burial will not be resurrected since such a person did nothing worthy of remembrance.
So Jesus was telling the Jews that the same way they throw useless things into Gehenna that's how God will treat faithless miscreants.

Nonsense talk as usual.So in the grave there is “gnashing of teeth”. If you want to go to hell ,go alone without deceiving innocent souls.

EreluRoz:
hmm jw are very vast in knowledge

EreluRoz, ask him what Christ meant by "where their worms do not die" in referring to hell. Ask him how the rich man who died was still thirsty and requested a drop of water from Lazarus? Do not let the Jehovah Witnesses fool you with their man-made doctrines.

CaptainJune:


EreluRoz, ask him what Christ meant by "where their worms do not die" in referring to hell. Ask him how the rich man who died was still thirsty and requested a drop of water from Lazarus? Do not let the Jehovah Witnesses fool you with their man-made doctrines.

MaxInDHouse 😆

MaxInDHouse:


Baby girl the true God has nothing evil at all in His thoughts towards anyone be you good or evil {Jeremiah 7:31} all He wants is for everyone to enjoy what He prepared from the beginning which is life without end but then if anyone chooses to be evil and they won't change their ways the only way out is to return them to where He brought them: dust! Genesis 3:19

No matter the evil done by the evildoers God can restore it all within a second, have they killed anyone? Have they destroyed anything?
God can restore whatever they destroyed so it's their soul that God wants to be saved whatever they had done in the past is repairable!

Satanic doctrine to keep people in their sins so that they are careless with their salavation or they see no reason to be saved since there is "no wrath waiting for them once they permanently close their eyes to the world". The shocker is they will open their eyes in eternity but it would have been tol late for many thanks to your promoting this satanic doctrine.

Plus1234:
Nonsense talk as usual.So in the grave there is “gnashing of teeth”. If you want to go to hell ,go alone without deceiving innocent souls.

He will avoid any explanation of the second death after the great White Throne judgment. If the sinners only die and their consciousness ceases, then how come the Word of God says they will die a second death? JWs are misguided.

Plus1234:
Nonsense talk as usual.So in the grave there is “gnashing of teeth”. If you want to go to hell ,go alone without deceiving innocent souls.

What will be tormented in your Hellfire, body or spirit?

What part of you is the teeth, body or spirit?

Do your spirit has teeth (bones) so that your spirit can gnash it in your grave?

Ọmọ if you don't understand something just ask!

EreluRoz:
MaxInDHouse 😆

Worms in Gehenna don't burn because they're there to consume the remaining part of the body as it's routine away but these people are so funny that they assume a lot with their Hellfire doctrine yet they're faithless.
Ask them to act on the instructions Jesus gave his disciples, no way!

CaptainJune:

He will avoid any explanation of the second death after the great White Throne judgment. If the sinners only die and their consciousness ceases, then how come the Word of God says they will die a second death? JWs are misguided.

What is the first death?

If you know that then you will understand the second.

I'm responding to your delusional thoughts as my SB is showing interest in this topic i don't waste my precious time with misinformed churchgoers.

First death is the death that comes with Adamic sin so both the good and evil are effected but the second death only takes away all the things God never purposed in the beginning for instance death, burial place and evildoers all aren't in God's arrangement from the beginning so they will not be found in God's kingdom.

That's what the second death means! Revelations 20:14

EreluRoz:
As in hellfire does not exist?

No
It doesn't amd never existed

EreluRoz:
So after committing all forms of atrocities there's no punishment in the afterlife, it's just death and only the righteous will resurrect to enjoy eternal life? Hard to believe

There is
Everlasting destruction
Psalm 37:9-11
They will perish but the righteous will enjoy everlasting life - John 3:16


Everlasting life is a gift, not a punishment