MindHacker9009:


The God Israel has perfectly designed any community following the Torah that they will be able to keep the Torah.

Name any person that has sold all they have, given all the money to the poor as the invented Jesus Christ has commanded and are now just only following the invented Jesus Christ now.

No one today is following what the invented Jesus Christ has commanded not even your organisation you are so much in love with because they have kept all the billions of dollars which they are paying you from so that you can always talk good of them on this forum.

Guy people can live without your Torah jàre!

MaxInDHouse:

Guy people can live without your Torah jàre!

Show just one community that has sold all that have given all to the poor and living together peacefully waiting for the invented second coming of your invented Jesus christ

Here is a Jewish community in the USA with over a hundred thousand Jews living peacefully together following the Torah. It's like Torah nation inside the USA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YTmrCLeidc

MindHacker9009:

Show just one community that has sold all that have given all to the poor and living together peacefully waiting for the invented second coming of your invented Jesus christ
Here is a Jewish community in the USA with over a hundred thousand Jews living peacefully together following the Torah. It's like Torah nation inside the USA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YTmrCLeidc

Don't confuse yourself, is it PEACE that you're talking about or POSSESSION?

MaxInDHouse:

Don't confuse yourself, is it PEACE that you're talking about or POSSESSION?

You are the one that is confused here. This thread is about keeping the commandments the True God of Israel and the Torah have given in the Torah. But you cannot show anyone keeping the commandments of your invented Jesus christ.

THE LOVE OF OURSELVES LIKE OURSELVES IS THE SUMMARY OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. HE KNEW THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT. HE DIED THAT HE WOULD BE OUR ADVOCATE FOR OUR IGNORANCE.

ORISA37
HIS LAST COMMANDMENT WAS THAT WE SHOULD LOVE OURSELVES LIKE OURSELVES.
HIS LAST PRAYER WAS FATHER FORGIVE US FOR WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING.

MindHacker9009:

You are the one that is confused here. This thread is about keeping the commandments the True God of Israel and the Torah have given in the Torah. But you cannot show anyone keeping the commandments of your invented Jesus christ.

Jesus didn't command his disciples to sell what they have so you're wrong!

MaxInDHouse:

Jesus didn't command his disciples to sell what they have so you're wrong!

You are the one that is wrong.

Matthew 19:27
Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”

MindHacker9009:

You are the one that is wrong.
Matthew 19:27
Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”

Where did Jesus commanded his disciples to go and sell everything they had?

MaxInDHouse:

Where did Jesus commanded his disciples to go and sell everything they had?

The disciples left all they had to be his disciples. Jesus had 12 disciples and you are not one of them, so if you want to follow Jesus he has told you to sell all you have, give all the money to the poor, then you can follow him and wait for the invented second coming.

Matthew 19:27
Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”

MindHacker9009:


The disciples left all they had to be his disciples. Jesus had 12 disciples and you are not one of them, so if you want to follow Jesus he has told you to sell all you have, give all the money to the poor, then you can follow him and wait for the invented second coming.

Matthew 19:27
Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”

Get the sense of what the disciples are saying in that verse, they left their businesses, homes and began following him just as he also left his carpentry business for preaching and teaching throughout the land of Israel.
Neither Jesus nor any of his disciples sold all the things they had that's why Peter could return to his fishing business after Jesus' death.

MaxInDHouse:

Get the sense of what the disciples are saying in that verse, they left their businesses, homes and began following him just as he also left his carpentry business for preaching and teaching throughout the land of Israel.
Neither Jesus nor any of his disciples sold all the things they had that's why Peter could return to his fishing business after Jesus' death.

You need to get the sense from the story that the disciples were fishermen that sell fishes and had nothing to sell after leaving their catching fishes to follow Jesus christ. Unlike like the rich man who was not a fisherman that had things to sell. So your organisation should sell all what they have and give away all their billions of dollars if the want to follow Jesus christ. And you too should leave whatever your are getting your income from and to follow Jesus christ

LACK OF COORDINATION AND CONCENTRATION CAUSES THE CRISIS THAT LED TO THE CROSS FOR PRAYERS.

Orisa37
MAY GOD GRANT US PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF HIS WORDS IJN AMEN.

MindHacker9009:

You need to get the sense from the story that the disciples were fishermen that sell fishes and had nothing to sell after leaving their catching fishes to follow Jesus christ. Unlike like the rich man who was not a fisherman that had things to sell. So your organisation should sell all what they have and give away all their billions of dollars if the want to follow Jesus christ. And you too should leave whatever your are getting your income from and to follow Jesus christ

This is what Jesus meant by that statement!

The man is a politician and celebrity among the Jews so by telling him to sell all what he had and give to the poor Jesus meant he should abandon politics, prominence and celebrity lifestyle so he can humbly become one of his disciples going from house to house to preach about God's Kingdom. Luke 18:22
The poor in Jesus' comments aren't literally poor people but those who are hungry for celebrity lifestyle such lifestyle totally negates God's kingdom {1John 2:15-17} that's why you can't see anyone among Jesus' disciples who sold everything they had.
Zacchaeus didn't sell everything before Jesus declared salvation in his house {Luke 19:8-9} so the politician's case was more of celebrity one not just about the material possessions.
There are wealthy disciples of Christ in the first century who supported his ministry with their material possessions so the politicians expected Jesus to ask for such service but was shocked that it's what he cherished most that Jesus asked him to trash: celebrity, prominence and power as a politician!

MaxInDHouse:

This is what Jesus meant by that statement!

The man is a politician and celebrity among the Jews so by telling him to sell all what he had and give to the poor Jesus meant he should abandon politics, prominence and celebrity lifestyle so he can humbly become one of his disciples going from house to house to preach about God's Kingdom. Luke 18:22
The poor in Jesus' comments aren't literally poor people but those who are hungry for celebrity lifestyle such lifestyle totally negates God's kingdom {1John 2:15-17} that's why you can't see anyone among Jesus' disciples who sold everything they had.
Zacchaeus didn't sell everything before Jesus declared salvation in his house {Luke 19:8-9} so the politician's case was more of celebrity one not just about the material possessions.
There are wealthy disciples of Christ in the first century who supported his ministry with their material possessions so the politicians expected Jesus to ask for such service but was shocked that it's what he cherished most that Jesus asked him to trash: celebrity, prominence and power as a politician!

Jesus was an invention of the Roman empire politicians of that time to remotely control the people in all the nations they were controlling. That's why you have four Gospels that contradict themselves and Paul the Apostle as well that only saw the invented resurrected Jesus. So that if they use all four Gospels to spine the people and it does not work then they can use the invented Paul the Apostle as well.

The invented Jesus Christ himself was a politician. When his was asked about what he had taught them, he gave a politicians reply:

John 12:5,8
5. “Why was this fragrant oil not sold for three hundred denarii and given to the poor?”
8. "For the poor you have with you always”

The invented Jesus Christ knew they will always have the poor but told a rich man to sell all he had and give to the poor. But when he was enjoying a good leg massage from a beautiful woman with expensive perfume then he remembered they will always have the poor with them. Is the invented Jesus Christ not a very good politician?

Same invented Jesus Christ could turn a fish into an ATM but could not give that ATM fish to all the poor to make them rich.

Just in the 14th century William Tyndale was burned at the stake by the first official church of Jesus for the first translation of the Bible into English so that many people can read it for themselves to know what's inside instead of only the preachers telling them what they wants them to hear. If this is the punishment for translating the Bible from Latin to English in the 14th century how much more the punishment for saying Jesus was invented in the Roman empire.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfNWxZPe8Yw

MindHacker9009:

Jesus was an invention of the Roman empire.

No matter how many times you repeat this it's not working so find something else to say!

MaxInDHouse:

No matter how many times you repeat this it's not working so find something else to say!

You need to convert to True Judaism as you are deceiving your members with the invented Jesus Christ.

The Book of Acts claims Three Thousand souls were added to the Church in just one day, and that daily the Church grew. Josephus was born in the year 37 CE. In "The Life of Josephus", he stated there were only three sects in existance when he was 16, and Christianity was not one of them.

"And when I was about sixteen years old, I had a mind to make trim of the several sects that were among us. These sects are three: - The first is that of the Pharisees, the second that Sadducees, and the third that of the Essenes, as we have frequently told you; for I thought that by this means I might choose the best, if I were once acquainted with them all; so I contented myself with hard fare, and underwent great difficulties, and went through them all."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGAXc9fqGVY

MindHacker9009:

You need to convert to True Judaism as you are deceiving your members with the invented Jesus Christ.

Both religions were brought to Africa so there is no reason to support any unless the benefit is inexcusable!

MaxInDHouse:

Both religions were brought to Africa so there is no reason to support any unless the benefit is inexcusable!

Only that one is a traditional religion of the Jews like you have your Ifa/Ògún and the other was invented and used as a tool to remotely control the people in the nations that have been conquered.

MindHacker9009:

Only that one is a traditional religion of the Jews like you have you Ifa/Ògún and the other was invented and used as a tool to remotely control the people in the nations they have been conquered.

So what are the benefits of the one you're sticking to?

MaxInDHouse:

So what are the benefits of the one you're sticking to?

What are the benefits of the invented one you have been walking from house to house for?

MindHacker9009:

What are the benefits of the invented one you have been walking from house to house for?

Millions of people throughout the earth have used it to settle their differences amicably and vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again. Isaiah 2:2-4
So if only the adherents of this teaching are walking the earth today wars will seize to the extremity of the earth! Psalms 46:9

Now what is the benefit of the one you're sticking to?

MaxInDHouse:


Millions of people throughout the earth have used it to settle their differences amicably and vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again. Isaiah 2:2-4
So if only the adherents of this teaching are walking the earth today wars will seize to the extremity of the earth! Psalms 46:9

Now what is the benefit of the one you're sticking to?

You quoted from Judaism.
You need to quote from your invented Jesus Christ that said you should sell your clothe to buy a sword.

MindHacker9009:

You quoted from Judaism.
You need to quote from your invented Jesus Christ that said you should sell your clothe to buy a sword.

Guy that's not Judaism it's the inspired word of God from which Judaists selected what they like just as many religionists are doing today.

One thing no one can deny is that the true God will back the true religion to fulfill what is written in His inspired expression.

So quote anywhere in the words of the prophets and explain how Judaists are practically fulfilling it today!

MaxInDHouse:
The commandments aren't ten but 600+ God only wrote ten on stone tablets for Israelites to believe that the laws Moses is talking about is the continuation of this first ten.
For instance it's in the law that Israelites should pay tithes, can you quote where it's found among the ten?
God commanded the Israelites not to marry none Israelites, can you quote where it's found among the ten?
God commanded the Israelites to stone fornicators and adulterers to death, can you quote where it's found among the ten?

So the ten stands as evidence that God is the one who gave Moses all those laws as the ten are the first on the list.

However God Himself declared that no Israelite completely fulfilled what that law says {Jeremiah 31:31-34} hence they need God's laws to be written in their hearts through the life of a perfect human that's the covenant Christ Jesus came to seal!

It's not 600+

The 10 commandments were even simplified/summarized by Jesus who made into two which is 1. Love God. 2. Love your neighbor which are simply others, apart from yourself. If you love your neighbor for example, you wouldn't steal someone else's things or want to harm him or her unwarranted etc.

These two laws are simply moral ethic code to implement orders and prevent chaos in the society because no one would like anyone stealing huge funds or their partners from them for example. So it was only a moral ethic code. Nothing bad in it📌

However apart from the 10 commandments which were simplified/summarized into two, there were also Moses' cold laws and justice which were simply the justice aspect of God showcasing itself. For example, the stoning of the adulterers to death 😅. But remember that Jesus pardoned an adulterous woman who was about to be stoned which showcase the merciful nature and salvation of God to people. That was his mission.

So His mission was to depict God's merciful nature while ensuring salvation and mercy persists. However, this doesn't mean one should continue to do evil.

Aside Jesus depicting God's merciful nature and salvation, we can also applies this mercy to the law and justice rendered in the society. Of course we already know that law and justice are needed to implement order in the society and prevent chaos, however while the law should be without mercy, justice should be rendered with mercy, especially if such case warrants it 📌 However this doesn't mean one should continue to do evil. For example, the useless terrorists. As a matter of fact, terrorists must be dealt with and destroyed as a matter of fact 💯

MaxInDHouse:

Guy that's not Judaism it's the inspired word of God from which Judaists selected what they like just as many religionists are doing today.

One thing no one can deny is that the true God will back the true religion to fulfill what is written in His inspired expression.

So quote anywhere in the words of the prophets and explain how Judaists are practically fulfilling it today!

This is how Jews are practically fulfilling it today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YTmrCLeidc

Dsimmer:

It's not 600+

It is 600+.

God gave mankind only one rule in the garden of Eden:
Do not set standards for your fellow human regarding right and wrong! Genesis 2:17

This is the one and only rule expatiated to the point of 600+ so Jesus explained to his listeners that for them to fully understand the 600+ laws they need to know why God gave Moses the rules.
LOVE God: Having interest in what makes God happy and what could sadden Him and by so doing we endeavor to do that which makes His heart glad.
LOVE Neighbour: Having interest in what makes our neighbour happy and what could sadden him then try to make him happy with a view to lasting bliss.

On this two explanations all the rules found in the Bible and the prophets hangs! Matthew 22:40

Today peace and security eludes mankind because 99.9999% of the world population are still commiting the blunder of choosing humans to set standards over themselves and that's exactly what God warned Adam and Eve never to do!

MindHacker9009:

This is how Jews are practically fulfilling it today.

They gather in one community just as all other tribes of the earth are doing without having to do with other tribes so which of the prophecies are they fulfilling with this?


I quoted Isaiah 2:2-4 and explained that people from all the geographical locations on this planet have come together to learn what Jesus of Nazareth taught and they have used it to settle their racial disparities among themselves, diverted their resources into the production of food and information materials, and now they have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again neither do they learn wars!

And they keep on visiting their neighbours from house to house discussing on how to make the world a better place by applying what Jesus of Nazareth taught them! Malachi 3:16

Oya quote just one verse in the Bible and show me how Judaists are practically fulfilling it today so as to make a sharp difference that others can learn from!

MaxInDHouse:


They gather in one community just as all other tribes of the earth are doing without having to do with other tribes so which of the prophecies are they fulfilling with this?


I quoted Isaiah 2:2-4 and explained that people from all the geographical locations on this planet have come together to learn what Jesus of Nazareth taught and they have used it to settle their racial disparities among themselves, diverted their resources into the production of food and information materials, and now they have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again neither do they learn wars!

And they keep on visiting their neighbours from house to house discussing on how to make the world a better place by applying what Jesus of Nazareth taught them! Malachi 3:16

Oya quote just one verse in the Bible and show me how Judaists are practically fulfilling it today so as to make a sharp difference that others can learn from!

This prophesy is being fulfilled today as many people are now realising that Jesus was an invention of the Roman empire and that the invented stories does not make any sense.

Zechariah 8:23
“Thus says the LORD of hosts: ‘In those days ten men from every language of the nations shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish man, saying, “Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.”

You and your organisation are the ones going from house to house disturbing people with the invented stories.

MindHacker9009:


This prophesy is being fulfilled today as many people are now realising that Jesus was an invention of the Roman empire and that the invented stories does not make any sense.

Zechariah 8:23
“Thus says the LORD of hosts: ‘In those days ten men from every language of the nations shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish man, saying, “Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.”

You and your organisation are the ones going from house to house disturbing people with the invented stories.

How is Zechariah's prophecy fulfilling in the lives of Judaists when they only gather in one community?

For your information the real Jews are 144000 Born Again disciples of Christ Jesus and millions of Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the earth are following them because we know their God is the true God.

MaxInDHouse:

It is 600+.

God gave mankind only one rule in the garden of Eden:
Do not set standards for your fellow human regarding right and wrong! Genesis 2:17

This is the one and only rule expatiated to the point of 600+ so Jesus explained to his listeners that for them to fully understand the 600+ laws they need to know why God gave Moses the rules.
LOVE God: Having interest in what makes God happy and what could sadden Him and by so doing we endeavor to do that which makes His heart glad.
LOVE Neighbour: Having interest in what makes our neighbour happy and what could sadden him then try to make him happy with a view to lasting bliss.

On this two explanations all the rules found in the Bible and the prophets hangs! Matthew 22:40

Today peace and security eludes mankind because 99.9999% of the world population are still commiting the blunder of choosing humans to set standards over themselves and that's exactly what God warned Adam and Eve never to do!

It's only 10 which is summarized into two by Jesus. Love God and your neighbor. That's exactly what's in the 10 commandments in expatiation.

On tithes, God only wanted people who's got more than enough to help the ministry in a little way they can however some ministers start to abuse it and will even force out money from the poor/needy who need money instead or the ministers won't even help the needy, thereby violating the second law which is loving your neighbor. So the 10 commandments is more or less like a moral ethic code.

On Jesus, he came to depict God's kind nature and salvation while ensuring mercy persists through salvation, with the Jews first. However, this doesn't mean one should continue to do evil.

Dsimmer:


It's only 10 which is summarized into two by Jesus. Love God and your neighbor. That's exactly what's in the 10 commandments in full expatiation.

On tithes, God only wanted rich people who's got more than enough to help the ministry in a little way however some ministers start to abuse it and even force out money from the poor/needy who need money instead or the ministry won't even help the needy thereby violating the second law which is loving your neighbor. So the 10 commandments is more or less like a moral ethic code.

On Jesus, he came to depict God's kind nature and salvation while ensuring mercy persists through salvation. However, this doesn't mean one should continue to do evil.

Ten commandments, including Sabbath?

My friend if you want to know more about the two laws Jesus emphasized it has nothing to do with the Mosaic laws!

MaxInDHouse:



Ten commandments, including Sabbath?

My friend if you want to know more about the two laws Jesus emphasized it has nothing to do with the Mosaic laws!

Jesus is the sabbath. Didn't you read when he was plucking grain to eat on the sabbath thus was questioned by the scribes and pharisees? He simply told them that he's the Lord of the Sabbath. He's the sabbath.

As I said already, the commandments are only 10, summarized into two which is love God and love your neighbor.