Dsimmer:

Jesus is the sabbath. Didn't you remember when he was plucking grain to eat on the sabbath thus was questioned by the scribes and pharisees? He simply told them that he's the Lord of the sabbath. He's the sabbath.
As I said already, the commandments are only 10, summarized into two which is love God and love your neighbor.

MaxInDHouse:


The commandments aren't what Jesus had in mind when he talked about two laws!

Jesus practiced what he said by going about to talk about his God/father and his kingdom that is how to love God with all what we have and by going to visit people uninvited and extending the hand of salvation he shows the love for his neighbour.

Note that whoever fails to practice this can't see God's kingdom even if such a person did everything the commandments says! Luke 18:21


So it's the preaching and teaching work Jesus assigned to his disciples that matters most in fact the man who kept all the Mosaic laws lost out simply because he couldn't humble himself to join Jesus' disciples going from house to house visiting people who never invited him!

Dsimmer:

The two commandments Jesus mentioned are simply the 10 commandments. Nothing bad in it because these are simply moral ethic code.

MaxInDHouse:


Guy if it's that simple Jesus won't say it's not easy! Luke 18:24-25

In fact his disciples were terrified and wondered "who can be saved?" Luke 18:26

So my guy the two laws wasn't that easy!

MaxInDHouse:


The commandments aren't what Jesus had in mind when he talked about two laws!

Jesus practiced what he said by going about to talk about his God/father and his kingdom that is how to love God with all what we have and by going to visit people uninvited and extending the hand of salvation he shows the love for his neighbour.

Note that whoever fails to practice this can't see God's kingdom even if such a person did everything the commandments says! Luke 18:21


So it's the preaching and teaching work Jesus assigned to his disciples that matters most in fact the man who kept all the Mosaic laws lost out simply because he couldn't humble himself to join Jesus' disciples going from house to house visiting people who never invited him!

Dsimmer:

It's simply moral ethic code. I mean something you don't want done to you, don't do to others. That's simple. Of course some ended up doing it unintentionally or without meaning harm and that's why the need for mercy. For example, an old poor man who stole food to eat for example.

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is called the golden rule that's what sincere people often does but that's not what Jesus had in mind it's much more than that!

MindHacker9009:

Was the invented Jesus Christ and his disciples going from house to house with billions of dollars in their account like your organisation is doing. Will the invented Jesus not give all those billions away to people who need it?

MaxInDHouse:


You're just holding up to straws because Jesus never gave any needy a dime so that's not what he meant!

Dsimmer:

It's the same thing. The 10 commandments is the same thing which is simplified into Love God and Love your neighbor.

Aemmyjah:

Just ignore that guy with his stupid comments

MaxInDHouse:


If it's the same thing then why did Jesus told the man who has kept all the laws that there is something remaining?

Dsimmer:


Well, Jesus knows the heart. Is if the rich man heart was right, he would know. Besides, it's unreasonable accumulating so much wealth when there are needy/poor around you, both in your family and out there. In fact, the purpose of the churches/ministries is to cater to the needy/poor around, aside preaching the gospel. That was what the missionaries did when they were building hospitals/healthcares, roads, boreholes etc.. Aside that, having agro industries combined with large scale mechanised farming to produce at subsided good cost is another avenue to help the society.

Aemmyjah:


Jesus fell in love with the man as Bible mentions. Would Jesus do that if his heart was not right?
He asked him to give his wealth to the poor and follow him

The focal point was following Jesus
The man kept all the laws from his youth and knew something was still missing

Dsimmer:

What did I say the purpose of the ministry was again? It was to help the needy, aside preaching the gospel. That was what the missionaries did for example when they were building healthcares/hospitals, roads, boreholes etc

MaxInDHouse:


Guy the love is PREACHING ZEALOUSLY AND INDUSTRIOUSLY TEACHING about God's kingdom if it's just to give the man's heart is good for that but humbly going from house to house and door to door with Jesus is what the politician finds absurd.

Tell any politician to give to the poor and you'll see many of them doing it but going from one house to the other to preach is what they can't do because it goes against their prominence in the society!

Dsimmer:

Nah. It's preaching the gospel and helping the needy. Remember the story of the rich man and the poor Lazarus?

MaxInDHouse:


Lazarus and rich man wasn't a story but parable.
The rich man did nothing wrong while Lazarus did nothing good according to Jesus!

Dsimmer:

why did Jesus tell the rich man to go help the needy around him?

Dsimmer:

The parable was about helping the needy around you if you've got more than enough which also speak to the politicians as a matter of fact because politicians are in the position to make the society a better place.

Aemmyjah:

Just ignore Aemmyjah with Aemmyjah stupid comments

MaxInDHouse:

You're just holding up to straws because Jesus never gave any needy a dime so that's not what he meant!

Dsimmer:


What did I say the purpose of the ministry was again? It was to help the needy, aside preaching the gospel. That was what the missionaries did for example when they were building healthcares/hospitals, roads, boreholes etc

MindHacker9009:

Luke 12:33-34 (NIV)
“Sell your possessions and give to the poor."
When you go from hose to house.

Aemmyjah:


For political means
Is that what Jesus did and taught?

Dsimmer:

The missionaries were no politicians. Even after Jesus left, the disciples were always feeding the needy, aside preaching the gospel.

Dsimmer:

Meanwhile, politics is interwoven with the people. The politicians are actually elected to serve the people as a matter of fact! Politics is no career!

MaxInDHouse:

Those people weren't Christians but politicians you can't know them by just looking at them if you want to know their real identity Jesus said "it's by their FRUITS" Matthew 7:15-18
So what happened to those they gathered through their missionary works are they also building schools and hospitals for charity today?

Politics is the only problem facing mankind today!

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus said "the poor"
In that context it doesn't mean "needy" rather Jesus is telling the politician to trash all his prominence and celebrity lifestyle for those who don't know what the man has seen.

Note that the politician called Jesus "GOOD TEACHER" which means he has believed that Jesus is the Christ or saviour sent to save mankind but the only obstacle that could stop him from becoming Jesus' friend is politics and prominence both belongs to Satan. Luke 4:5-7

Satan is the overall ruler of this world {1John 5:19} so whoever is into politics is dining and winning with Satan that's what Jesus asked the man to trash and come join his group of humble evangelizers.



Politicians will continue to worsen the situation of things because they're operating under the influence of Satan whose intentions is to steal, kill and destroy {John 10:10} so whoever is into politics can't succeed in making life better for the people as Satan only chooses evil people like himself! Luke 4:6

MindHacker9009:

The Jesus story was invented by the Roman empire politicians, that's why there are four Gospels and Paul so that if try all four to spine the people and it does not work then you can use Paul's letters.

MaxInDHouse:

It's OK i've gotten someone who is learning now so later you and i can continue our child's play!

MaxInDHouse:

Those people weren't Christians but politicians you can't know them by just looking at them if you want to know their real identity Jesus said "it's by their FRUITS" Matthew 7:15-18
So what happened to those they gathered through their missionary works are they also building schools and hospitals for charity today?

Politics is the only problem facing mankind today!

Dsimmer:

As I said, politics is interwoven with the people who makes it. It's an avenue to serve the people. It's not a professional career but an avenue to serve the people and make the society a better civilized place for the needy.

MaxInDHouse:


That's what you think but God's word says the opposite about politicians:

Again I turned my attention to all the acts of oppression that go on under the sun. I saw the tears of the oppressed, and there was no one to comfort them. And their oppressors had the power, and there was no one to comfort them. Ecclesiastes 4:1

All of this I have seen, and I applied my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, during the time that man has dominated man to his harm! Ecclesiastes 8:9


God warned Israelites when they decided to venture into politics! 1Samuel 8:10-18

Dsimmer:

The missionaries weren't politicians. These missionaries built boreholes, health facilities, helping the needy/old etc for every society they came to preach the gospel . Question is if these missionaries are building basic amenities, what stops the politicians from doing more?