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Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:11pm On Mar 06 |
Dsimmer: The commandments aren't what Jesus had in mind when he talked about two laws! Jesus practiced what he said by going about to talk about his God/father and his kingdom that is how to love God with all what we have and by going to visit people uninvited and extending the hand of salvation he shows the love for his neighbour. Note that whoever fails to practice this can't see God's kingdom even if such a person did everything the commandments says! Luke 18:21 So it's the preaching and teaching work Jesus assigned to his disciples that matters most in fact the man who kept all the Mosaic laws lost out simply because he couldn't humble himself to join Jesus' disciples going from house to house visiting people who never invited him! |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by Dsimmer: 3:16pm On Mar 06 |
MaxInDHouse: The two commandments Jesus mentioned are simply the 10 commandments. Nothing bad in it because these are simply moral ethic code. |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:25pm On Mar 06 |
Dsimmer: Guy if it's that simple Jesus won't say it's not easy! Luke 18:24-25 In fact his disciples were terrified and wondered "who can be saved?" Luke 18:26 So my guy the two laws wasn't that easy! |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by Dsimmer: 3:38pm On Mar 06 |
MaxInDHouse: It's simply moral ethic code. I mean something you don't want done to you, don't do to others. That's simple. Of course some end up doing it unintentionally or without meaning harm hence reason for mercy. For example, a poor old man who stole food to eat for example. |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MindHacker9009(m): 3:42pm On Mar 06 |
MaxInDHouse: Was the invented Jesus Christ and his disciples going from house to house with billions of dollars in their account like your organisation is doing. Will the invented Jesus not give all those billions away to people who need it?
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Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:43pm On Mar 06 |
Dsimmer: The highlighted is called the golden rule that's what sincere people often does but that's not what Jesus had in mind it's much more than that! |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by Dsimmer: 3:47pm On Mar 06 |
MaxInDHouse: It's the same thing. The 10 commandments is the same thing which is simplified into Love God and Love your neighbor. |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:47pm On Mar 06 |
MindHacker9009: You're just holding up to straws because Jesus never gave any needy a dime so that's not what he meant! |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:41pm On Mar 06 |
MaxInDHouse: Just ignore that guy with his stupid comments |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:26pm On Mar 06 |
Dsimmer: If it's the same thing then why did Jesus told the man who has kept all the laws that there is something remaining? |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:27pm On Mar 06 |
Aemmyjah: I just want him to see his own folly. |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by Dsimmer: 6:33pm On Mar 06 |
MaxInDHouse: Well, Jesus knows the heart. If the rich man heart was doing right, he would know. Besides, it's unreasonable accumulating so much wealth at the detriment of others when there are needy/poor around to help, both in your family and out there. Or making the society a better civilized place in the case of politicians for example. The purpose of the churches/ministries for example is to cater to the needy/poor around (which is an act of kindness), aside preaching the gospel and enlightenment. For example, that was what the missionaries were doing for example when they were helping the needy. Some were even building boreholes, health facilities, roads while also helping the needy/old etc.. Aside that, having agro industries combined with large scale mechanised farming to produce at subsided cost is another avenue to help the society. |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:41pm On Mar 06 |
Dsimmer: Jesus fell in love with the man as Bible mentions. Would Jesus do that if his heart was not right? He asked him to give his wealth to the poor and follow him The focal point was following Jesus The man kept all the laws from his youth and knew something was still missing |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by Dsimmer: 6:43pm On Mar 06 |
Aemmyjah: What did I say the purpose of the ministry was again? It was to help the needy (an act of kindness), aside preaching the gospel and enlightenment. That was what the missionaries did for example when they were helping the needy if they've got enough. Some were even buildingg boreholes, health facilities, roads while helping the old and the needy etc |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:52pm On Mar 06 |
Dsimmer: Guy the love is PREACHING ZEALOUSLY AND INDUSTRIOUSLY TEACHING about God's kingdom if it's just to give the man's heart is good for that but humbly going from house to house and door to door with Jesus is what the politician finds absurd. Tell any politician to give to the poor and you'll see many of them doing it but going from one house to the other to preach is what they can't do because it goes against their prominence in the society! |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by Dsimmer: 7:00pm On Mar 06 |
MaxInDHouse: Nah. The mission of the ministries is preaching the gospel and helping the needy, especially for those who have got more than enough. It's about kindness, aside preaching the gospel and enlightenment. Remember the story of the rich man and the poor As said already, the ministry is about preaching the gospel, enlightenment, and helping the needy, especially for those who have more than enough to give. Some missionaries were even building boreholes, roads, health facilities while also helping the old and needy etc. That's what the politicians should also focus on for example because the money aren't even theirs to begin with but for the people. I still don't know why governors, senators, house of representatives can't have agro industries combined with large scale mechanised farming in their state, as well as ensuring basic amenities in their state. If the missionaries are doing all these, what stop them? 🤔 |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:13pm On Mar 06 |
Dsimmer: Lazarus and rich man wasn't a story but parable. The rich man did nothing wrong while Lazarus did nothing good according to Jesus! |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by Dsimmer: 7:22pm On Mar 06 |
MaxInDHouse: Parable always give a lot of pointers. It's not totally shrouded in mystery. So why did Jesus tell the rich man to go help the needy around him? The parable was about helping the needy if you've got more than enough which also speak to the politicians as a matter of fact because it's the role of politicians to make the society a better civilized place for everyone which includes the poor. |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:41pm On Mar 06 |
Dsimmer: Jesus said "the poor" In that context it doesn't mean "needy" rather Jesus is telling the politician to trash all his prominence and celebrity lifestyle for those who don't know what the man has seen. Note that the politician called Jesus "GOOD TEACHER" which means he has believed that Jesus is the Christ or saviour sent to save mankind but the only obstacle that could stop him from becoming Jesus' friend is politics and prominence both belongs to Satan. Luke 4:5-7 Satan is the overall ruler of this world {1John 5:19} so whoever is into politics is dining and winning with Satan that's what Jesus asked the man to trash and come join his group of humble evangelizers. Dsimmer: Politicians will continue to worsen the situation of things because they're operating under the influence of Satan whose intentions is to steal, kill and destroy {John 10:10} so whoever is into politics can't succeed in making life better for the people as Satan only chooses evil people like himself! Luke 4:6 |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MindHacker9009(m): 7:43pm On Mar 06 |
Aemmyjah: |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MindHacker9009(m): 7:44pm On Mar 06 |
MaxInDHouse: Luke 12:33-34 (NIV) “Sell your possessions and give to the poor." When you go from house to house. |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:45pm On Mar 06 |
Dsimmer: For political means Is that what Jesus did and taught? |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:47pm On Mar 06 |
MindHacker9009: It's OK i've gotten someone who is learning now so later you and i can continue our child's play! |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by Dsimmer: 7:48pm On Mar 06 |
Aemmyjah: The missionaries were no politicians. Even after Jesus left, the disciples were feeding the needy, aside preaching the gospel. That's the mission of the ministries. If the ministries are doing all these while some are even building basic amenities, what stops the politicians from doing more?🤔 Meanwhile, politics is interwoven with the people. The politicians are actually elected to serve the people as a matter of fact! Politics is no career but a position to serve the people and make the society a better place. |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:54pm On Mar 06 |
Dsimmer:Those people weren't Christians but politicians you can't know them by just looking at them if you want to know their real identity Jesus said "it's by their FRUITS" Matthew 7:15-18 So what happened to those they gathered through their missionary works are they also building schools and hospitals for charity today? Dsimmer:Politics is the only problem facing mankind today! |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MindHacker9009(m): 8:01pm On Mar 06 |
MaxInDHouse: The Jesus story was invented by the Roman empire politicians, that's why there are four Gospels and Paul so that if try all four to spine the people and it does not work then you can use Paul's letters. |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by Dsimmer: 8:03pm On Mar 06 |
MaxInDHouse: As I said, politics is interwoven with the people who makes it. It's an avenue to serve the people and defend the people. It's not a professional career but an avenue to serve the people and make the society a better civilized place for the people, which include the needy. |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:03pm On Mar 06 |
MindHacker9009: MaxInDHouse: |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by Dsimmer: 8:06pm On Mar 06 |
MaxInDHouse: The missionaries weren't politicians. These missionaries built boreholes, health facilities, helping the needy/old, roads etc for every society they came to preach the gospel . Question is if these missionaries are building basic amenities, what stops the politicians from doing more? |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:07pm On Mar 06 |
Dsimmer: That's what you think but God's word says the opposite about politicians: Again I turned my attention to all the acts of oppression that go on under the sun. I saw the tears of the oppressed, and there was no one to comfort them. And their oppressors had the power, and there was no one to comfort them. Ecclesiastes 4:1 All of this I have seen, and I applied my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, during the time that man has dominated man to his harm! Ecclesiastes 8:9 God warned Israelites when they decided to venture into politics! 1Samuel 8:10-18 |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by Dsimmer: 8:09pm On Mar 06 |
MaxInDHouse: David was a king remember? |
Re: What's Difficult To Keep In The Ten Commandments That Jesus Went On The Cross? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:11pm On Mar 06 |
Dsimmer: Because the Catholic missionaries were wolves in sheep's clothing they pretended to be friends of the people but as times goes by their FRUITS (those they produced through their missionary works) became rulers over the people and these ones now exhibit the real color of their mentors! Matthew 7:15-20
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