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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 11:44am On Mar 08
Theflint1:
Yea, of course, can't rule out Monday, known the guy since forever, proper Esan man...it won't be easy for Asue Ighodalo in Edo Central...don't see Monday pulling much weight in Edo North, since the party structure has sorta been taken from him...but who knows. It'd be very tough.

Same Edo North that APC has on lockdown? 😂
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:46am On Mar 08
BlueRayDick:


But GRV was none of this, yet u supported him in Lagos.

1. GRV Careerwise could not be compared to other major aspirants in Lagos
2. GRV didn't have any strong profile aside his family name
3. GRV has never been involved in governance or public service at any level in Lagos
4. GRV doesn't really sound smart like that when u listen to him.
5. I doubt GRV has much connection that could've attracted more investment to Lagos. GRV is more of a son of an elite who did well in school and doing well for himself in his private business as an architect. I don't see him having much connections.

I'm just thinking, If u can support GRV why not Akpata?
GRV is a solid guy, he's done well for himself professionally, been involved in Lagos state politics for almost a decade, he's studied the state sufficiently (you'd hear this when you listen to him speak), and been involved in Lagos state's politics gives him access to a fair deal of insider info...only recently he provided some privileged information on the blue/red line rail project of Lagos, so I don't think he's an outsider to governance in Lagos even though he's not been personally involved (for obvious reasons).

Also, GRV is someone I agree with on how Nigeria should be structured, have had an opportunity to listen to his ideas outside of him talking as a politician, and think he has his head in the right place.

As for Sanwo-Olu, he has a strong enough personal profile, but I didn't see him doing much in his second tenure...also his being APC is more than enough of a reason in itself for me not to vote for him. There were only two candidates that stood a realistic chance in Lagos for 2023, and if I'm to vote, I won't bother on candidates I know don't stand a chance.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:50am On Mar 08
larride:


Same Edo North that APC has on lockdown? 😂

I really don't know sha, the state's APC structure has gone from Oshiomhole to Ize-Iyamu, so that might be a factor. It'd be tough, Philip Shuaibu might be a very useful idiot also...would likely be between APC and PDP eventually.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 11:52am On Mar 08
izzou:


Ahn Ahn

Tribalism don reach the matter?

E dey there.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 11:56am On Mar 08
Theflint1:
I really don't know sha, the state's APC structure has gone from Oshiomhole to Ize-Iyamu, so that might be a factor. It'd be tough, Philip Shuaibu might be a very useful idiot also...would likely be between APC and PDP eventually.

Bro APC has Edo North on lockdown.

It's the only region APC has a realistic chance of clearing.

The battle ground is going to be Edo South which is a PDP stronghold.

Edo Central has the least number of voters so it will just make up the numbers.

If Asue wins Edo South with large margins and try to pick some numbers here and there in Edo North and Central, he will win the election.

Cant find any pathway for Olumide sha.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:57am On Mar 08
Ellexy:
I don't want to call you a coward but I've noticed the pattern. Anytime we debate, you choose the cowards way out.

Anyway this is main issue below. Cold hard facts.
Tinubu gave his economic template to Buhari, Buhari to Adeosun
Buhari sacked Adeosun and handed over same template to Zainab Ahmed and Emefiele
Buhari seemed to be losing the plot and Tinubu advice him to stick with the template and print as much Naira as he could
Tinubu took over and promised to continue with Buhari's legacies (was probably more Tinubu's legacy)
Tinubu handed over his template to Cardoso and Wale Edun, they'd follow the template to the letter, and Nigerian's would trust the process.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 11:57am On Mar 08
Theflint1:
GRV is a solid guy, he's done well for himself professionally, been involved in Lagos state politics for almost a decade, he's studied the state sufficiently (you'd hear this when you listen to him speak), and been involved in Lagos state's politics gives him access to a fair deal of insider info...only recently he provided some privileged information on the blue/red line rail project of Lagos, so I don't think he's an outsider to governance in Lagos even though he's not been personally involved (for obvious reasons).

Also, GRV is someone I agree with on how Nigeria should be structured, have had an opportunity to listen to his ideas outside of him talking as a politician, and think he has his head in the right place.

As for Sanwo-Olu, he has a strong enough personal profile, but I didn't see him doing much in his second tenure...also his being APC is more than enough of a reason in itself for me not to vote for him. There were only two candidates that stood a realistic chance in Lagos for 2023, and if I'm to vote, I won't bother on candidates I know don't stand a chance.

In which capacity or position is GRV involved in Lagos politics for almost a decade?

What priviledge information did he provide about the red/blue line rail?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:58am On Mar 08
Theflint1:
GRV is a solid guy, he's done well for himself professionally, been involved in Lagos state politics for almost a decade, he's studied the state sufficiently (you'd hear this when you listen to him speak), and been involved in Lagos state's politics gives him access to a fair deal of insider info...only recently he provided some privileged information on the blue/red line rail project of Lagos, so I don't think he's an outsider to governance in Lagos even though he's not been personally involved (for obvious reasons).

Also, GRV is someone I agree with on how Nigeria should be structured, have had an opportunity to listen to his ideas outside of him talking as a politician, and think he has his head in the right place.

As for Sanwo-Olu, he has a strong enough personal profile, but I didn't see him doing much in his second tenure...also his being APC is more than enough of a reason in itself for me not to vote for him. There were only two candidates that stood a realistic chance in Lagos for 2023, and if I'm to vote, I won't bother on candidates I know don't stand a chance.

GRV is actually an outsider in governance and public service . Aside from contesting and losing in previous elections , I really am not aware of anything he knows about public service .

Funny enough , it's now this second term Sanwoolu is working . The first 2-3 years of Sanwoolu's administration he didn't try at all. Towards the end of the 3rd to 4th year was when he started working .

See ehn, I wanted change of guard in Lagos from
APC to another party but GRV was just not that right person to effect such change of guard . GRV no be am at all. The only thing I was against was the tribalism card they played on him.

Now that said , are u saying Akpata has absolutely nothing to offer ?

Don't u think u supporting Asue of PDP is same as supporting Sanwoolu of APC in Lagos ; something u avoided doing .

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:03pm On Mar 08
larride:


Bro APC has Edo North on lockdown.

It's the only region APC has a realistic chance of clearing.

The battle ground is going to be Edo South which is a PDP stronghold.

Edo Central has the least number of voters so it will just make up the numbers.

If Asue wins Edo South with large margins and try to pick some numbers here and there in Edo North and Central, he will win the election.

Cant find any pathway for Olumide sha.
APC does not have Edo North on lock like that, check the results from the presidential election, plus Edo Central and Edo North votes are comparable...the difference no dey much like that.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:05pm On Mar 08
Theflint1:
APC does not have Edo North on lock like that, check the results from the presidential election, plus Edo Central and Edo North votes are comparable...the difference no dey much like that.

How many times will they tell you that both elections are different? angry

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 12:12pm On Mar 08
I am going to take a very wild guess and a stab in the dark and say Theflint is an Esan guy.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 12:16pm On Mar 08
Theflint1:
Yea, of course, can't rule out Monday, known the guy since forever, proper Esan man...it won't be easy for Asue Ighodalo in Edo Central...don't see Monday pulling much weight in Edo North, since the party structure has sorta been taken from him...but who knows. It'd be very tough.
Oshimole's structure in Edo north is there to back him. Of the three candidates he's the one that looks to have the better reach outside his senatorial district tagging from his years in the state, philanthropy and association with Pa Tony anenih. Asue knows it's not a walk in the park even with obaseki's backing.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 12:16pm On Mar 08
Theflint1:
APC does not have Edo North on lock like that, check the results from the presidential election, plus Edo Central and Edo North votes are comparable...the difference no dey much like that.

Bros just ask Segedinho.

APC won Edo North Senatorial election by over 50k votes

APC clears all the house of reps seat in Edo North

APC clear all the House of Assembly seat in Edo North

Even most of the votes that Tinubu won in Edo were in Edo North.

If anybody tells you APC doesn't have Edo North on lockdown, the person is lying.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 12:18pm On Mar 08
izzou:


How many times will they tell you that both elections are different? angry

Even election that they did on the same say with the Presidential election, APC clears Edo North both the senatorial and house of reps seat. Most of Tinubu numbers were also from Edo North.

The data is there for him to see.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 12:18pm On Mar 08
WhoDeyHause:

Oshimole's structure in Edo north is there to back him.

Yes. As long as Oshiomole backs him, he will win Edo North hands down
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:24pm On Mar 08
afrodoc2:
I am going to take a very wild guess and a stab in the dark and say Theflint is an Esan guy.

E clear pass SLTV grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:34pm On Mar 08
BlueRayDick:


E clear pass SLTV grin
Lol, im actually Etsako.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 12:36pm On Mar 08
BlueRayDick:


E clear pass SLTV grin

At the end of the day, no matter how cosmopolitan and nationalistic we thump our chests to be, we are all tribal animals fiercely loyal to the interests of our ethnicities primarily. Especially in regional politics.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:38pm On Mar 08
Theflint1:
Lol, im actually Etsako.

Una gather dey together cheesy. Afrodoc didn't guess off tangent
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:41pm On Mar 08
BlueRayDick:


Una gather dey together cheesy. Afrodoc didn't guess off tangent
Naaa, the three major tribes are actually quite distinct.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by joseph1832(m): 12:43pm On Mar 08
Theflint1:
Lol, im actually Etsako.
thanks goodness.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by joseph1832(m): 12:51pm On Mar 08
DissTroy:


At the end of the day, no matter how cosmopolitan and nationalistic we thump our chests to be, we are all tribal animals fiercely loyal to the interests of our ethnicities primarily. Especially in regional politics.
not all of us bro. Some Nigerians are still very loyal first to Nigeria... though they are becoming more and more fee, because of they way many tribal bigots behave.

A couple of years back, I would never have even believe there's anything like tribalism in Nigeris, until I experienced it, first hand. They didn't even make any mistake of hiding it, they threw at my face.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 12:54pm On Mar 08
larride:


Yes. As long as Oshiomole backs him, he will win Edo North hands down
He still has pastor ize iyamu in the south and who knows if shuaibu will try to play spoiler in his own small group with revenge instigations. I honestly see him as the favourite but when you also factor rigging and power of the incumbency you might just be wrong at the end of the day.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:00pm On Mar 08
DissTroy:


At the end of the day, no matter how cosmopolitan and nationalistic we thump our chests to be, we are all tribal animals fiercely loyal to the interests of our ethnicities primarily. Especially in regional politics.

This is a wide generalization don't u think ? Not everybody places tribal interests first in all things.

As regards regional politics, the reason tribalism always rears its ugly head is because we actually don't practice democracy like we should in a plural state where u have different people with different interests. When u see a governor who would site most developmental projects in his own region of the state, it is only normal that the people of other tribe fight tooth and nail to have their own son too get the number 1 seat and favour them as well.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 1:03pm On Mar 08
WhoDeyHause:

He still has pastor ize iyamu in the south and who knows if shuaibu will try to play spoiler in his own small group with revenge instigations. I honestly see him as the favourite but when you also factor rigging and power of the incumbency you might just be wrong at the end of the day.

I'm only talking about Edo North, not the election in general.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:07pm On Mar 08
https://archive.is/2024.03.07-163642/https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2024/03/07/nigerias-currency-crisis-is-decades-in-the-making


Mar 7th 2024|LAGOS
On the wealthy peninsula of Victoria Island in Lagos, Nigeria’s commercial capital, no one knows how much their grocery shopping costs. Prices are changing so quickly that shopkeepers have given up on tags altogether. At the till, one might be shocked to discover that a tomato is now 120 naira (8 cents). Last year that could get you four, enough to balance out the hot spice in a pot of jollof rice. That staple dish is made dearer still by the soaring prices of onions and rice, forcing the poorest Nigerians to skip meals. Because Nigeria is dependent on imports, its weaker currency is pushing the annual inflation rate towards a three-decade high at almost 30%.
Last year 23 African currencies hit record lows against the dollar. The naira, which is moving towards being fully floated, has been devalued twice in attempts to close the gap with a parallel market rate. That makes it the second-worst-performing currency in the world, after the Lebanese pound. The decline is also eating into the hard-currency profits of multinational businesses. For example MTN, a South African telecommunications company whose biggest market is Nigeria, this month said its group profit could fall by 60-80% and that its Nigerian unit would make a loss because of the naira’s collapse. The currency volatility is eroding confidence, sparking protests from unions and deterring much-needed investment.


For more than four decades, oil provided Nigeria with a steady stream of dollars that boosted the naira. In many cases this made it cheaper to import things than to make or grow them. But oil production has slumped over the past 20 years and no other big source of export earnings has replaced it. With hard currency in short supply, Nigerians are panic-buying dollars, putting further pressure on the naira.
In a bid to curb inflation and attract foreign investment, the central bank, under a new governor, Olayemi Cardoso, increased interest rates to 22.75% last month. The juicy rates are having some impact: foreigners bought four-fifths of the short-term debt the central bank issued after the increase. The bank also says it has cleared $2.3bn of backlogged foreign-exchange transactions, which had been frustrating airlines and prompting multinationals to leave because they could not get money out of the country.
When Kenya bumped up interest rates in February and issued $1.5bn in bonds, its currency rallied. In Nigeria, however, so great is the demand for dollars that higher interest rates have moved the needle less.

Taming the naira will take more than quick fixes and tweaks to monetary policy. “For the first time in ten years we have very clear direction on what [the central bank] is doing and why,” says Amaka Anku, who leads the Africa practice at Eurasia Group, a political-risk consultancy. “But the central bank cannot earn foreign exchange!”

Almost a year since Bola Tinubu was elected president, there are questions about his government’s readiness to deal with a crisis of this magnitude. A steep new tax on firms that hire expatriates (costing $10,000-15,000 a year per foreign employee) is bound to discourage investment. And efforts to curb currency speculation are a distraction from the bigger reforms needed to make Nigeria an attractive place to do business. Only when the country can sell more of its own goods and services abroad, or win the confidence of foreign investors to fill the gap, will it solve its chronic shortage of dollars.


This article appeared in the Middle East & Africa section of the print edition under the headline "Nary a dollar
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 1:10pm On Mar 08
BlueRayDick:


This is a wide generalization don't u think ? Not everybody places tribal interests first in all things.

As regards regional politics, the reason tribalism always rears its ugly head is because we actually don't practice democracy like we should in a plural state where u have different people with different interests. When u see a governor who would site most developmental projects in his own region of the state, it is only normal that the people of other tribe fight tooth and nail to have their own son too get the number 1 seat and favour them as well.
my close friend is Yoruba we both identify as rivers state indigenes jokingly ,na nairaland spoil me to dey carry tribe matter for head if not I don't give a Bleep were you from.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Sportsweb: 1:17pm On Mar 08
Theflint1:
Careerwise, he has the strongest profile of the three candidates, he's been involved with governance with the state on some level, and I've listened to him speak, he's smart and well-rounded plus I believe he has the most connections when it comes to being able to pull capital to the state.
Naso Jagaban have all the connections and biggest pull, but see what is happening now
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 1:22pm On Mar 08
BlueRayDick:


This is a wide generalization don't u think ? Not everybody places tribal interests first in all things.

As regards regional politics, the reason tribalism always rears its ugly head is because we actually don't practice democracy like we should in a plural state where u have different people with different interests. When u see a governor who would site most developmental projects in his own region of the state, it is only normal that the people of other tribe fight tooth and nail to have their own son too get the number 1 seat and favour them as well.
I just hope these guys don't carry the toxicity from online to offline interactions, cause the commitment to tribalism seems very serious for some.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 1:23pm On Mar 08
Theflint1:
Lol, im actually Etsako.

A thousand apologies. Na wild guess. grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 1:23pm On Mar 08
Sportsweb:
Naso Jagaban have all the connections and biggest pull, but see what is happening now
Not quite the same thing, Jagaban was barely alive and it's showing in his presidency.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 1:24pm On Mar 08
BlueRayDick:


E clear pass SLTV grin

The guy don deny. I don stab the wrong person in the dark.

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