benalvino3:


Many Americans may trust Trump more on the economy, even with relatively strong economic performance under Biden:

Perception vs. reality While the overall economic numbers under Biden have been good (low unemployment, solid job growth, etc.), the perception among many doesn't match the data. High inflation has been a major issue, eroding wages and consumer confidence. So the "feel" of the economy may not align with the statistics.
Partisan motivated reasoning For some, there is a predisposition to view the opposing party's handling of the economy more negatively, regardless of actual conditions. This partisan motivated reasoning can cause people to discount positive economic news under a president they don't support.
Messaging and branding Trump was very skilled at branding himself as a billionaire businessman and economic populist looking out for American workers. This image may persist for some voters despite mixed results during his term.
Policy differences There are substantive disagreements over economic philosophies. Some prefer Trump's approaches like tax cuts, deregulation, hard line on trade - even if the outcomes were uneven. They may see Biden as too favoring renewable energy over fossil fuels, too pro-union, too eager to spend, etc.
Extent of recovery While the economy has recovered job losses from the pandemic, some perceive the recovery as incomplete or exclusionary for certain industries/regions that were Trump strongholds.
Specific impacts At a micro level, an individual's personal economic situation (income, costs, job status) under each administration can color their overall perception more than national data.
So while the economic statistics have been relatively healthy under Biden so far, factors like personal experiences, partisan views, credibility perceptions, and policy differences may lead some to nevertheless maintain more trust in Trump's stewardship of the economy. Of course, opinions on this can vary widely among Americans.
Also, many people in the tech industry are actually losing their jobs. Also, working two jobs to be able to live is not an argument for strong or good economy.

Democracy and the choice of who to vote is usually sentimental and might depend on how you perceive someone vs the other

Some people just trust Trump more

There was this guy a blue collar white guy in his 40s. I was even trying to convince him to vote DeSantis and he was adamant. Its Trump regardless of anything you allege he did. At best he can take DeSantis as Trump deputy, He doesnt have anything against DeSantis but he just trust Trump more

If you have it you have it. Its like the trust Northerners had/have for Buhari as incorruptible regardless of evidence you show them.

DaHighLife:

I agree. And I do acknowledge that, at present, Trump appears to have a slight edge over Biden in terms of the economy. However, this advantage isn't due to statistical measures (excluding inflation, which is a global issue), but rather because of propaganda. I hope this perception changes as the election approaches and more accurate comparisons emerge.
Yes, the polls are concerning, but I believe, just as in 2022 and the primaries, they may overrepresent Trump's support.

Na you know say these issues are global, What concerns the average voter with inflation being global? The only thing that matters is I spent $50 on grocery during Trump times now I am spending $85. I filled my tank with $35 now its costing me $70. None of their business if there is war in the gulf costing the price hike

Like in Nigeria where everyone is groaning under Tinubu, enter market in Onitsha Kano or Ibadan and tell the market woman that its global or that Venezuela Egypt or Anywherestan is having the same issue and see if they dont stone you out of the place

All they are concerned is that this moment, my life was harder than it used to be, and the only person to blame is whoever is sitting at presidency

budaatum:


Was waiting for one of you to acknowledge this, lol.

lol. I attempt to steer clear of drama, but unfortunately, it's the elephant in the room.

raumdeuter:


The thing about this election is that both candidates have had 4yrs of show workings. Voters can now decide what issues concern them
Some think its Economy, some its immigration, some its abortion, some its democracy, some its foreign policy

If these polls are right. Its something that should worry Biden.
Hispanics used to be pretty secure for Democrats are moving, Same with many demographics

Very well said.

These strong variables you've stated would make or mar President Joe Biden. He and the rest of the Dems should indeed worry. Time for the Dems to reengineer themselves 'cos humans and voters generally take decisions based on self-interest and the desire to avoid pain.

raumdeuter:


People abort for different reasons married people actually abort more. Women are more likely to be swayed by social issues while men who have to feed a family pay more attention to economic issues

You are more likely to sit in front of TV monitoring your stock market portfolio while a woman is likely to be more concerned about the issues of school choices for her kids

So, women are more likely to be swayed by social issues that concern them like the issues of school choices for her kids, while men, to feed a family, sit in front of TV monitoring their stock market portfolio and pay more attention to economic issues?

While, that's not what you said exactly, I am certain that the woman's social issues includes feeding her kids food too as well as knowledge that will empower them to feed themselves. I mean, sometimes, especially with inflation in the market, the money her man may provide might just not be enough. As a point, Indomi is now ₦17000 I hear, and no one got a pay rise.

I think those men should get off their lazy asses and get a job to feed their family, but I might think that's because I am liberal and leftish and very awoke indeed enough to know that watching the weather is not sowing.

budaatum:


So, women are more likely to be swayed by social issues that concern them like the issues of school choices for her kids, while men, to feed a family, sit in front of TV monitoring their stock market portfolio and pay more attention to economic issues?

While, that's not what you said exactly, I am certain that the woman's social issues includes feeding her kids food too as well as knowledge that will empower them to feed themselves. I mean, sometimes, especially with inflation in the market, the money her man may provide might just not be enough. As a point, Indomi is now ₦17000 I hear, and no one got a pay rise.

I think those men should get off their lazy asses and get a job to feed their family, but I might think that's because I am liberal and leftish and very awoke indeed enough to know that watching the weather is not sowing.

In an average US family the men are still the primary breadwinner and what keeps him awake at night is different from what a woman stays awake

If he sees his income/economy reduce it will bother him more

raumdeuter:


Na you know say these issues are global, WHat concerns the average voter with inflation being global? The only thing that matters is I spent $50 on grocery during Trump times now I am spending $85. I filled my tank with $35 now its costing me $70. None of their business if there is war in the gulf costing the price hike

Like in Nigeria where everyone is groaning under Tinubu, enter market in Onitsha Kano or Ibadan and tell the market woman that its global or that Venezuela Egypt or Anywherestan is having the same issue and see if they dont stone you out of the place

All they are concerned is that this moment, my life was harder than it used to be, and the only person to blame is whoever is sitting at presidency

For Ijebos or dahighlife whatever he chooses to call himself. Biden is without Blemish. He also think Fani Willis is without blemish. This is how a cult behaves.

raumdeuter:


Na you know say these issues are global, WHat concerns the average voter with inflation being global? The only thing that matters is I spent $50 on grocery during Trump times now I am spending $85. I filled my tank with $35 now its costing me $70. None of their business if there is war in the gulf costing the price hike

Like in Nigeria where everyone is groaning under Tinubu, enter market in Onitsha Kano or Ibadan and tell the market woman that its global or that Venezuela Egypt or Anywherestan is having the same issue and see if they dont stone you out of the place

All they are concerned is that this moment, my life was harder than it used to be, and the only person to blame is whoever is sitting at presidency

I do not disagree with you. But that is also the reason why Trump leads with mostly non-college-educated voters.

How can you vote for someone to support your interests when you don't fully understand what effects those interests? Republicans excel at propagandizing, leading people to vote against their own interests due to a lack of understanding of the issues. It's akin to Trump right before the 2016 election; he criticized the economy, but a month after taking office, he claimed it was the best economy ever. What changed? Nothing. He even admitted it. That is also how Nigeria got Tinubu, not understanding what effects their issues.

But Republicans have to be cautious with the 'are you better off than you were 4 years ago' question. Four years ago, many Americans were frightened, and countless were dying due to Trump's inept response to Covid.

benalvino3:


For Ijebos or dahighlife whatever he chooses to call himself. Biden is without Blemish. He also think Fani Willis is without blemish. This is how a cult behaves.

What concerns people and what influence their choices differ. What bothers you might sound silly to some people
Some na Palestine issues concern them, while some might think why do you want to vote or let a bad candidate win just because of issues in a foreign land?

Just same way someone will ask you what concerns me about democracy when I am not able to pay my mortgage

raumdeuter:


All those considerations yet Trump the main culprit is said to be leading in polls

Maybe they decided name calling you is not as important as Money to feed your family

Oh yes, the polls. The same polls we once trusted so much when it told us our darling Hillary would be the President of America.

Maybe the polls are right again I guess, but it's elections that decide in the end.

As for money to feed your family. I doubt we should be that broke that feeding our family with money is a concern when we should be feeding them knowledge too. But note my leftism. If you can't feed them food and knowledge, consider not getting pregnant, or aborting please if you've irresponsibly fuqed.

DaHighLife:


I do not disagree with you. But that is also the reason why Trump leads with mostly non-college-educated voters.

How can you vote for someone to support your interests when you don't fully understand what effects those interests? Republicans excel at propagandizing, leading people to vote against their own interests due to a lack of understanding of the issues. It's akin to Trump right before the 2016 election; he criticized the economy, but a month after taking office, he claimed it was the best economy ever. What changed? Nothing. He even admitted it. That is also how Nigeria got Tinubu, not understanding what effects their issues.

But Republicans have to be cautious with the 'are you better off than you were 4 years ago' question. Four years ago, many Americans were frightened, and countless were dying due to Trump's inept response to Covid.

Its left to the voters to decide and this concept of condescending non college educated is irritating. So because he is non college educated means he should die? or not feed himself

All citizens are equal Wole Soyinka is equal to a roadside mechanic, at the end of the day they both have concerns and need to feed their family

Its the belief that the political class are condescending and uncaring that has pushed many of them to Trump irredeemably and are willing to take the bullet for him. The country has to work for everyone college educated or not

You want to be a Professor, I want to be a welder. At the polls we are equal

Republicans and propaganda? Lol you are funny, Is that not what every politician and political party does?

These people are tired of the 2 parties as they see no difference between Bush and Clinton, Romney and Obama. They are all politicians who dont get them and are only there to screw them over

Regards the Covid thing, its the voters that will also determine what matters to them. They knew where they were and where they are and will make a decision based on the information available to them and their life

raumdeuter:


Democracy and the choice of who to vote is usually sentimental and might depend on how you perceive someone vs the other

Some people just trust Trump more

Fewer at the last election, I dare say, and I bet more and more trust him less considering all he's done since.

Democracy is not "usually sentimental" for many. In fact, for some it's very intellectual, and it requires knowledge and understanding and all. You wouldn't here claim your own democratic preference is sentimental, so why assume that of others (apart from dumpists) is sentimental?

It's not perception for everyone, Raud. Some make their democratic choices based on what they actually see with their very own eyes.

DaHighLife:

But Republicans have to be cautious with the 'are you better off than you were 4 years ago' question. Four years ago, many Americans were frightened, and countless were dying due to Trump's inept response to Covid.

Republicans be careful, lol, when it seems they can not reason and think everyone forgets like they seem to have forgotten.

raumdeuter:


Its left to the voters to decide and this concept of condescending non college educated is irritating. So because he is non college educated means he should die? or not feed himself

All citizens are equal Wole Soyinka is equal to a roadside mechanic, at the end of the day they both have concerns and need to feed their family

Its the belief that the political class are condescending and uncaring that has pushed many of them to Trump irredeemably and are willing to take the bullet for him. The country has to work for everyone college educated or not

Republicans and propaganda? Lol you are funny, Is that not what every politician and political party does?

These people are tired of the 2 parties as they see no difference between Bush and Clinton, Romney and Obama. They are all politicians who dont get them and are only there to screw them over

Regards the Covid thing, its the voters that will also determine what matters to them. They knew where they were and where they are and will make a decision based on the information available to them and their life

My intention wasn't to insult Republican's voters, I was speaking matter of fact, but to highlight the complexity of issues which requires citizens to be informed. By reducing the vote to a popularity contest rather than engaging with these complexities, they do a disservice to the country. Take the example of the tech people you mentioned—do they truly understand why jobs are being outsourced? If they did, why would they support Trump and the Republican party?

It's no surprise that I've voted Democrat, and while I acknowledge that every politician spins to some degree, what we're witnessing now is on a completely different scale from mere political spin. Republicans are outright lying about numerous issues. Take Ken Buck, for instance, who recently resigned. He was a conservative Republican. Here's what he said:

We’ve gone from a time when the Tea Party stood for conservative principles, for constitutional principles, to a time where the [populists] have taken over the Republican Party and are really advocating things that I believe are very dangerous,” he told host Chris Stirewalt in an interview that aired Sunday.
...
But really we’re at a time in American politics, that I am not going to lie on behalf of my presidential candidate, on behalf of my party. And I’m very sad that others in my party have taken the position that, as long as we get the White House, it doesn’t really matter what we say,

budaatum:


Republicans be careful, lol, when it seems they can not reason and think everyone forgets like they seem to have forgotten.

It's almost as if that year has disappeared from their memories.

DaHighLife:


My intention wasn't to insult Republican's voters, I was speaking matter of fact, but to highlight the complexity of issues which requires citizens to be informed. By reducing the vote to a popularity contest rather than engaging with these complexities, they do a disservice to the country. Take the example of the tech people you mentioned—do they truly understand why jobs are being outsourced? If they did, why would they support Trump and the Republican party?

It's no surprise that I've voted Democrat, and while I acknowledge that every politician spins to some degree, what we're witnessing now is on a completely different scale from mere political spin. Republicans are outright lying about numerous issues. Take Ken Buck, for instance, who recently resigned. He was a conservative Republican. Here's what he said:

Its cheaper for the jobs to be done abroad, but Trump made it difficult to ship jobs abroad saying until you can prove no American has the skill to do it

Just like you have people like the example you also have people like Elon Musk and others who claimed they've always voted Democrat but the party has left them behind

I mean when you have a party committed to telling us children can now change their gender without informing parents, We can no longer define who a woman is, That crime is no longer crime and decriminalizing crime, that can a man can use bathroom of women.

DaHighLife:


It's almost as if that year has disappeared from their memories.

They shall be reminded in due time, just Dems don't want to be seen dancing on graves.

raumdeuter:


I mean when you have a party committed to telling us children can now change their gender without informing parents, We can no longer define who a woman is, That crime is no longer crime and decriminalizing crime, that can a man can use bathroom of women.

This is what you are being told, plus Biden going to Latin land to invite the Latinos.

DaHighLife:

Republicans are outright lying about numerous issues.

Konquest:

Deep insights from Steve Kornacki. So many intangibles at play on the road to November 2024.

A lot of intangibles. Will be a very very interesting, politics wise, election season. We have, 2 3rd party candidates on some ballots (RFK and the NoLabels candidate), a presidential candidate that may be in court, the Israel war, a president's son in court as well, and two older candidates to boot.

benalvino3:


For Ijebos or dahighlife whatever he chooses to call himself. Biden is without Blemish. He also think Fani Willis is without blemish. This is how a cult behaves.

I think it's dawning on you you've spent days trying to bully someone because of your obsession with me. Well done.

He said this is how a cult behaves. lol Such lack of self awareness.

I don't think Biden nor Fani is without blemish. I have posted on here my concern with Biden's Israel policy and the fact I think he is old. I have also talked about Fani Willis was silly for the Wade issue. But at the end of the day since they are both prosecutors and prosecutors by nature of their job have an adversarial relationship with the person on trial, it is not unfair to Trump. Though wade should probably resign to make things smoother.

But, you know how you can tell someone is a cult member is when someone can write posts after posts about Willis, yet say nothing about Thomas taking money from people who appear before him even though he is the Judge who is supposed to be impartial. Why don't you square both of your stances. Yeah, cult members generally can't.

benalvino3:


Many Americans may trust Trump more on the economy, even with relatively strong economic performance under Biden:

Perception vs. reality While the overall economic numbers under Biden have been good (low unemployment, solid job growth, etc.), the perception among many doesn't match the data. High inflation has been a major issue, eroding wages and consumer confidence. So the "feel" of the economy may not align with the statistics.
Partisan motivated reasoning For some, there is a predisposition to view the opposing party's handling of the economy more negatively, regardless of actual conditions. This partisan motivated reasoning can cause people to discount positive economic news under a president they don't support.
Messaging and branding Trump was very skilled at branding himself as a billionaire businessman and economic populist looking out for American workers. This image may persist for some voters despite mixed results during his term.
Policy differences There are substantive disagreements over economic philosophies. Some prefer Trump's approaches like tax cuts, deregulation, hard line on trade - even if the outcomes were uneven. They may see Biden as too favoring renewable energy over fossil fuels, too pro-union, too eager to spend, etc.
Extent of recovery While the economy has recovered job losses from the pandemic, some perceive the recovery as incomplete or exclusionary for certain industries/regions that were Trump strongholds.
Specific impacts At a micro level, an individual's personal economic situation (income, costs, job status) under each administration can color their overall perception more than national data.
So while the economic statistics have been relatively healthy under Biden so far, factors like personal experiences, partisan views, credibility perceptions, and policy differences may lead some to nevertheless maintain more trust in Trump's stewardship of the economy. Of course, opinions on this can vary widely among Americans.
Also, many people in the tech industry are actually losing their jobs. Also, working two jobs to be able to live is not an argument for strong or good economy.

You did not write this. Most of the language in is not yours. Either parts of this were ChatGPT generated or you plagiarized large parts from elsewhere and added some of your own language. If it's the latter, you should attribute the source.

IjeBos:


A lot of intangibles. Will be a very very interesting, politics wise, election season. We have, 2 3rd party candidates on some ballots (RFK and the NoLabels candidate), a presidential candidate that may be in court, the Israel war, a president's son in court as well, and two older candidates to boot.

Indeed, very well said.

Can't wait

https://x.com/donlemon/status/1767949937894121894?s=20

IjeBos:


I think it's dawning on you you've spent days trying to bully someone because of your obsession with me. Well done.

He said this is how a cult behaves. lol Such lack of self awareness.

I don't think Biden nor Fani is without blemish. I have posted on here my concern with Biden's Israel policy and the fact I think he is old. I have also talked about Fani Willis was silly for the Wade issue. But at the end of the day since they are both prosecutors and prosecutors by nature of their job have an adversarial relationship with the person on trial, it is not unfair to Trump. Though wade should probably resign to make things smoother.

But, you know how you can tell someone is a cult member is when someone can write posts after posts about Willis, yet say nothing about Thomas taking money from people who appear before him even though he is the Judge who is supposed to be impartial. Why don't you square both of your stances. Yeah, cult members generally can't.

I am well-acquainted with every individual present here, and even when they adopt a new pseudonym or alter ego, I swiftly unveil their true identity. For instance, when budaatum employed the alternate moniker 'tamidabu,' my recollection, unlike President Biden's, proved resolute in unmasking their facade.
The bold is an indisputable affirmation of your identity as the renowned individual (ewu) known as dahighlife.

The trolling continues 🤣

benalvino3:


I am well-acquainted with every individual present here, and even when they adopt a new pseudonym or alter ego, I swiftly unveil their true identity. For instance , when budaatum employed the alternate moniker 'tamidabu,' my recollection, unlike President Biden's, proved resolute in unmasking their facade.
The bold is an indisputable affirmation of your identity as the renowned individual (ewu) known as dahighlife.

The trolling continues 🤣

Ladies and Gentleman, meet ChatGpt Benalvino. He couldn't conjugate verbs so he went to AI.
ahahahahahahahah
I'm dead.

The nuts in this thread.

benalvino3:


proved resolute in unmasking their facade

Typical stupid idiot must decide getting past a spambot ban is "their facade".

IjeBos:


Ladies and Gentleman, meet ChatGpt Benalvino. He couldn't conjugate verbs so he went to AI.
ahahahahahahahah
I'm dead.

IjeBos:


The broken ChatGPT is back.
Another incoherent post. It's like someone who's both drunk and has a concussion from getting punched in the head a dozen times decided to share their opinion on the middle east.

Again, it's odd that you want to visit/live in the US and can't quite say that someone threating to kill all Americans is a terrorist. Almost like you support it. Well done.

Your assertions that ChatGPT is defective stand in stark contrast to your simultaneous claim that I am, in fact, ChatGPT. This paradoxical stance demonstrates an apparent lack of coherence and consistency in your thought process. Perhaps it would be prudent to reevaluate and reconcile these contradictory positions before further discourse.
Maybe BenGPT is fixed 🤣🤣

Ijebos, one individual present in this thread may be inclined to utter a disparaging remark, potentially likening another to a donkey, an animal often associated with obstinacy and ignorance.
He is not wrong when he says that about you. He likes to utter kikikikikiki 🤣

benalvino3:
Ijebos, one individual present in this thread may be inclined to utter a disparaging remark, potentially likening another to a donkey, an animal often associated with obstinacy and ignorance.
He is not wrong when he says that about you. He likes to utter kikikikikiki 🤣

This guy tried to pass off a post he wrote using ChatGPT as his own. You can tell he grabbed sections from it and combined them with his own words as it was still a grammatical mess. Then when he got called out, is now trying to pretend it was all a rouse to troll people.

Phonies will always be phonies.

IjeBos:


This guy tried to pass off a post he wrote using ChatGPT (You can tell he grabbed sections from it and combined them with his own words as ait was still a mess) as his own. Then when he got called out is now trying to pretend it was all a rouse to troll people.

Phonies will always be phonies.

Your persistent inability to accept I am in the United States is a testament to the profound envy that clouds your judgment. It is with a sense of perverse satisfaction that I observe you in such a debilitated state, consumed by jealousy. However, your deluded belief that you can unveil my true identity on this anonymous platform is nothing short of misguided hubris. Maybe an Excel spreadsheet can help you 🤣🤣

DaHighLife:




Thank you for the reminder of who Ventura is. Lol. I'm kidding.

I understand your point. You have to recognize that this is a General Election, and Democrats tend to be more focused on specific issues. So, in a year where Roe v. Wade, IVF, and democracy itself are at stake, I don't see many liberal voters opting for Ventura as VP, especially when RFK is at the top of the ticket and they know neither can win.

I suggest looking at both the Democratic and Republican Minnesota primary results. Biden and Trump both received around 70% of their respective party votes. Approximately 30% of Republicans voted for Haley, and some of them expressed they would never vote for Trump. Biden had about 18% voting Not Committed, largely as a protest vote due to the Israel War. Whether all these Not Committed voters will stay home and not vote is uncertain, but it's unlikely given the perceived alternative of Trump, which many see as much worse for the Middle East.

You're referencing 2016, but 2020 provides a better indicator. Ijebos shared a good video with the electoral map from 2020 and what Trump must do to win. Trump faces a more challenging path. Consider this: Trump barely won in 2016 and lost significantly in 2020. Has he gained voters since then, especially with the events of Jan. 6th and the subsequent indictments?

I frequently hear the accusations of senility and incompetence. Do you watch a lot of Fox News? (Not meant as an insult, just curious if you've seen Biden give a speech or appear in public fully, not just in clips.) I recommend watching the State of the Union address. Biden is obviously older and has a stutter, but to argue that he is more senile than Trump is not a convincing argument.

You are correct that third parties make November less predictable.

Jesse Ventura is a native son and actually popular and well known... He'll balance RFK jnr's ticket. Besides Kennedy is a raging liberal , he only disagrees with the rest of the democrats on vaccines.

You don't understand the coalition that made up Biden's win in 2020... They comprised of never Trumpers and moderate liberal leaning independents.

Biden isn't gonna lose much support from the Dems (maybe roughly 2 percent votes to RFK jnr) but he (RFK jnr) can actually win over left leaning independents and moderates that voted for Biden in 2020... Now they're fed up with him and would never support Biden again.

Third party candidates like Cornel West, Jill stein, RFK jnr and even no label party would actually take way votes mostly from Biden as they're either liberals or former Dems... No way to think they hurt Trump more.
Which conservative or former republican is running to stop Trump?

FYI, no one cares about abortion or democracy shit except from democrats... Those issues won't resonate with independents who still view Biden as too old and incompetent.
Biden is actually old and senile... If you haven't seen videos of him being forgetful, dementia - ridden and cranky then I can see your bias.
I've actually watched alot of Biden clips I still can't find one of him stuttering before now.

Using Haley's voters as a metric can be misleading...Majority of her voters are Biden's 2020 voters comprising of same never Trumpers and democrats. Exit polls showed they approved of Biden and plan on voting for him again... They just voted to troll the primary. They wouldn't even vote for Haley in the general.

Besides, majority of actual Republicans that voted for Haley would vote for Trump... Check Chris Sununu, Brian Kemp etc... They've endorsed him already.
If you think non of the 30 percent Haley voters wouldn't vote for Trump then I have a mansion in the moon to sell to you... Only those that didn't vote for Trump either times would never vote for him lol... Even Haley would quietly cast her ballot for Trump .

Trump only got 45 percent of republican votes in 2016 primaries and the media were growling on how he can never put the pieces back together. At last roughy 90 percent of repubs voted for him... Underestimate Trump at your own peril. He's not a walkover especially against this current Biden.

Trump would give the little dissatisfied Republicans what they need (judges)... I bet he releases list of potential Supreme Court judges. Alito and Thomas would likely retire if Trump wins.
Alot of people including myself might not like Trump's erratic behavior but I bet those Republicans understands what a Republican president would do regardless of whom.

No Republican was expected to defeat Hillary Clinton in 2016... She was the strongest non-incumbent running, ever (you can look it up). Trump actually came and destroyed the map and her blue wall. He's messaging appealed to voters in the rust belt and that made him win.
If you think a neocon/establishment republican would have won Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin against Hillary then you don't understand American politics well.
Trump contributed to Hillary Clinton's unpopularity... She had her approval ratings in her 60s until she didn't.

Polls has been showing that Trump would beat Biden in all battleground states even liberal pundits like Nate Silver, Nate Cohn, Nathaniel Ratkich attest to this... so I'm wondering where you're getting the data from.
Which state(s) that Trump won in 2020 do you think Biden can win?

PDPGuy:


Why do you say so? Was Ventura an unpopular governor?

Jesse Ventura the famous wrestler and reform party former governor is a popular native Minnesotan to the core and very liberal too. He won with a little known party when no one thought he'd... He's just like Joe lieberman and Lowell Weicker of Connecticut.

Minnesota is a weird state that tends to cast protest votes next to Michigan... He'll easily peel into Biden's electorate breaking off around 10 percent if he runs with RFK jnr. It'll likely be this third best state outside New Hampshire and Maine.