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Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 4:39pm On Mar 16
I read about the former US Secretary of State, Henry Kessinger describing the Ibos as the Jews of Africa due to their higher intelligence than most black tribes. I also read about European countries telling Biafran delegations that they prefer supporting Nigeria during the Nigerian-Biafran war simply because "another Japan in Africa would not favour Europe." Despite the high intelligence and industry of the Ibos, I do not subscribe to the notion that Ibos are or would have become the Japan of Africa despite accomplishing technological feats that Nigeria cannot accomplish today during the short-lived Biafra. Here are my reasons:

1) Japan was never colonized by the European but Ibos were. The simple reason why no European country was bold enough to fight to conquer Japan is that the Japanese saw ahead of the Ibos. By late 16th Century, a Japanese Shogungate bought a few guns from the Portuguese. By 1700s, Japan had more guns than most European countries because they simply learned how to make guns and made more guns than the Europeans who initially sold guns to them.

2) By 1600s, less than 200 years after the Japanese met the Europeans, Ibos also had guns they probably bought from the Europeans, but 200 years later, unlike the Japanese, the Ibos had not made enough guns to deter European colonialists. In fact, around this period, the Japanese completely closed their country to the Europens and would only trade for guns. This was a time the Ibo country was being exploited even for manpower - slaves, by the Europeans. I remember reading about the Portuguese ambassador to Japan telling the king of Portugal (while describing Japan and their insistence on trading only for guns) that "This is not Africa." This points to the fact that Africans are significantly of lower intelligence than the Japanese, and Ibos are not excluded.

3) As probably the most intelligent tribe in Africa, I believe that the Ibos were best positioned to stop the colonialist (British, French and Germans) if they had foresight like the Japanese and insisted on trading for guns and using their local technology to mass produce it just as they did during the war with Nigeria, unfortunately they could not and had to fight the British for nearly 30 years as underdogs. Granted, they were probably the only tribe that had the pride to fight in present-day Nigeria, but fighting and losing isn't enough. They could have done more through deterrrence were they actually like the Japanese.

4) In essence, there is no taking from the Ibos their high intelligence par African level, but it is mere wishful thinking to claim that Ibos or Biafra would have become the Japan of Africa. Maybe they'd have become close to Singapore, but not exactly like Japan. If Ibos are like Japan, they shouldn't have been colonized and African blacks would have had respect among other races for producing one of the two nations that were never colonized in Africa.

Are Ibos like the Japanese? Maybe. Are they the Japan of Africa? No.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by kettykin: 4:46pm On Mar 16
Igbos that pioneeered mobile refinery,mobile transmitter, javelin bombs , retrofitted planes, etc

Igbos fought the British twice , during the Anglo-Aro war which resulted in many casualties among the British and also during Ekumeku war , were the employed guerrilla tactics and agile attacks against the British.

If Japan was a geopolitical zone in Nigeria, they would have been attacked by the british and other Nigerians

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by SpatialKing(m): 4:52pm On Mar 16
People that designed their own bomb 💣 during the Civil War...

People that survived Buhari 8 years

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Skooltynz: 4:59pm On Mar 16
you are right to some extent!
but as a realist and nonsentimental person i would say igbos are the jews of africa not japanese because they both had a late start in their history,the jews have being colonized and conquered and displaced many times in for over 5 millienias despite being surrounded by highly advanced nations didnt even prevent them from being colonized ,until she became a modern nation in the 1940s today despite being small in size she is one of the most innovative and technologically advanced nations on earth,every thing is time igbo time will come too.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Successdude(m): 5:07pm On Mar 16
He who is Up Is Up.

He Who Is Down Is Down.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by naija4life247: 5:27pm On Mar 16
I am sure they are the Mexico and Columbia of Africa. Anything hard drugs

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Cabalgeneral: 5:30pm On Mar 16
EbinPawaGovt:
I read about the former US Secretary of State, Henry Kessinger describing the Ibos as the Jews of Africa due to their higher intelligence than most black tribes. I also read about European countries telling Biafran delegations that they prefer supporting Nigeria during the Nigerian-Biafran war simply because "another Japan in Africa would not favour Europe." Despite the high intelligence and industry of the Ibos, I do not subscribe to the notion that Ibos are or would have become the Japan of Africa despite accomplishing technological feats that Nigeria cannot accomplish today during the short-lived Biafra. Here are my reasons:

1) Japan was never colonized by the European but Ibos were. The simple reason why no European country was bold enough to fight to conquer Japan is that the Japanese saw ahead of the Ibos. By late 16th Century, a Japanese Shogungate bought a few guns from the Portuguese. By 1700s, Japan had more guns than most European countries because they simply learned how to make guns and made more guns than the Europeans who initially sold guns to them.

2) By 1600s, less than 200 years after the Japanese met the Europeans, Ibos also had guns they probably bought from the Europeans, but 200 years later, unlike the Japanese, the Ibos had not made enough guns to deter European colonialists. In fact, around this period, the Japanese completely closed their country to the Europens and would only trade for guns. This was a time the Ibo country was being exploited even for manpower - slaves, by the Europeans. I remember reading about the Portuguese ambassador to Japan telling the king of Portugal (while describing Japan and their insistence on trading only for guns) that "This is not Africa." This points to the fact that Africans are significantly of lower intelligence than the Japanese, and Ibos are not excluded.

3) As probably the most intelligent tribe in Africa, I believe that the Ibos were best positioned to stop the colonialist (British, French and Germans) if they had foresight like the Japanese and insisted on trading for guns and using their local technology to mass produce it just as they did during the war with Nigeria, unfortunately they could not and had to fight the British for nearly 30 years as underdogs. Granted, they were probably the only tribe that had the pride to fight in present-day Nigeria, but fighting and losing isn't enough. They could have done more through deterrrence were they actually like the Japanese.

4) In essence, there is no taking from the Ibos their high intelligence par African level, but it is mere wishful thinking to claim that Ibos or Biafra would have become the Japan of Africa. Maybe they'd have become close to Singapore, but not exactly like Japan. If Ibos are like Japan, they shouldn't have been colonized and African blacks would have had respect among other races for producing one of the two nations that were never colonized in Africa.

Are Ibos like the Japanese? Maybe. Are they the Japan of Africa? No.

How many Japanese people you've seen looking for where to survive in another man's land.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 5:34pm On Mar 16
kettykin:
Igbos that pioneeered mobile refinery,mobile transmitter, javelin bombs , retrofitted planes, etc

Igbos fought the British twice , during the Anglo-Aro war which resulted in many casualties among the British and also during Ekumeku war , were the employed guerrilla tactics and agile attacks against the British.

If Japan was a geopolitical zone in Nigeria, they would have been attacked by the british and other Nigerians

Mobile refinery and retrofitted planes yes. Mobile transmitter and Javelin bombs no. The former could be linked to the British and the latter, the Germans. If the Ibos had enough guns, if they were well armed via indegenous technology, the British wouldn't have the motivation to fight them as they had no motivation to fight Japan. In fact, the Igbo country was a dense tropical forest where everything would have worked against the invaders. The British had only one confidence - advanced weaponry.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 5:36pm On Mar 16
Cabalgeneral:


How many Japanese people you've seen looking for where to survive in another man's land.

The Japanese Toyota, for instance is one of the most popular automobiles in North America. That's 10,000 miles from Japan. I'm sure you own one or two Japanese products in your home. That's how races with high IQ prosper.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Northernblood9(m): 5:54pm On Mar 16
Igbos fought against colonialism

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Iceberg3: 6:19pm On Mar 16
Cabalgeneral:


How many Japanese people you've seen looking for where to survive in another man's land.
The question is, imagine Japan is under your one naijiriya?!

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by chopnaira: 6:23pm On Mar 16
naija4life247:
I am sure they are the Mexico and Columbia of Africa. Anything hard drugs
😂😂😂

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by chopnaira: 6:24pm On Mar 16
With all their Japanese of Africa, wasn't it this week we saw them celebrate a roundabout in Onitsha. One would think the whole SE would have been Dubai by now cheesy

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 6:37pm On Mar 16
chopnaira:
With all their Japanese of Africa, wasn't it this week we saw them celebrate a roundabout in Onitsha. One would think the whole SE would have been Dubai by now cheesy

True... I have the feeling that the built-in Nigerian mediocrity is affecting the Ibos. Could it be why they're the only tribe serious to exit and form their own country?

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by JagabanB: 6:39pm On Mar 16
The hype around lgb0s by lgb0s are not worth it.
I am not a Yoruba but if any trîbè should bràg about intelligence and prosperity, Yorubas should take the front queue and they are not doing.
We always hear about lgb0 intelligence online, when u meet them in the field they are average at best, meet them as fellow students, at internship, at fellowship, at seminars as colleagues etc.
Just some few standing out as intelligent as it should be, so where does this high intelligence mantra stem from?
Chanting a fallacy till it becomes true doesn't make it true.
Again, most of the fàke products in the Nigerian market are made by lgb0s, Japan don't specialize in fakes, they specialize on reliable products.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EmiloCorn: 6:46pm On Mar 16
I like how they gave their students the highest cut off marks to scale through in jamb and National Common Entrance if not they would have pushed all the other tribes out of all the schools in this country cool

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 6:52pm On Mar 16
JagabanB:
The hype around lgb0s by lgb0s are not worth it.
I am not a Yoruba but if any trîbè should bràg about intelligence and prosperity, Yorubas should take the front queue and they are not doing.
We always hear about lgb0 intelligence online, when u meet them in the field they are average at best, meet them as fellow students, at internship, at fellowship, at seminars as colleagues etc.
Just some few standing out as intelligent as it should be, so where does this high intelligence mantra stem from?
Chanting a fallacy till it becomes true doesn't make it true.
Again, most of the fàke products in the Nigerian market are made by lgb0s, Japan don't specialize in fakes, they specialize on reliable products.

You're being economical with the truth. Start by listing the recent first, the second and the third top scorers in WAEC and JAMB before we take you seriously.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 6:55pm On Mar 16
EmiloCorn:
I like how they gave their students the highest cut off marks to scale through in jamb and National Common Entrance if not they would have pushed all the other tribes out of all the schools in this country cool


Very correct. I have a feeling that it was a built-in lopsidedness created by the British colonialists against the Ibos. Create a lev el playing field and other tribes would feel intimidated. Same reason the 2023 presidential election was determined NOT by MERIT.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EmiloCorn: 6:58pm On Mar 16
EbinPawaGovt:


Very correct. I have a feeling that it was a built-in lopsidedness created by the British colonialists against the Ibos. Create a lev el playing field and other tribes would feel intimidated. Same reason the 2023 presidential election was determined NOT by MERIT.

Stop speaking like this angry why should they give us with igbos level playing field? You want us to die? shocked

Is it our fault that Oluwa didn't create us with big-big brains like the ibos? cry

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Broveens42(m): 6:59pm On Mar 16
JagabanB:
The hype around lgb0s by lgb0s are not worth it.
I am not a Yoruba but if any trîbè should bràg about intelligence and prosperity, Yorubas should take the front queue and they are not doing.
We always hear about lgb0 intelligence online, when u meet them in the field they are average at best, meet them as fellow students, at internship, at fellowship, at seminars as colleagues etc.
Just some few standing out as intelligent as it should be, so where does this high intelligence mantra stem from?
Chanting a fallacy till it becomes true doesn't make it true.
Again, most of the fàke products in the Nigerian market are made by lgb0s, Japan don't specialize in fakes, they specialize on reliable products.


The hype is worth it.
1.The Igbos were the first to recognize the concept of chromosome through the igbo-ukwu artifact: a system of identification through codings is the first level of civilization
2. They are the only tribe in the world recorded to have built a commercial airport through contribution of school children and families (Sam mbakwe airport)
3. The only tribe in the world with a fearless feminine gender (Aba women riot)
4. The only tribe in the world that can openly wish a white QUEEN mother an excruciating pain; an astrological explanation of superiority of Igbo tribe.
5. The only tribe that can tell a judge to tell his president that he is Mad; an astrological explanation of superiority
6. The only tribe that built up their cities without implementation of the 3R

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 7:27pm On Mar 16
Broveens42:



The hype is worth it.
1.The Igbos were the first to recognize the concept of chromosome through the igbo-ukwu artifact: a system of identification through codings is the first level of civilization
2. They are the only tribe in the world recorded to have built a commercial airport through contribution of school children and families (Sam mbakwe airport)
3. The only tribe in the world with a fearless feminine gender (Aba women riot)
4. The only tribe in the world that can openly wish a white QUEEN mother an excruciating pain; an astrological explanation of superiority of Igbo tribe.
5. The only tribe that can tell a judge to tell his president that he is Mad; an astrological explanation of superiority
6. The only tribe that built up their cities without implementation of the 3R



So why couldn't the Ibos stop the British? They wouldn't be dealing with the Nigerian factor if they did.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Broveens42(m): 7:37pm On Mar 16
EbinPawaGovt:


So why couldn't the Ibos stop the British? They wouldn't be dealing with the Nigerian factor if they did.

Never would humanity have imagined a balkanized USSR .
... things just happen and realign astrologically

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Cabalgeneral: 7:44pm On Mar 16
Iceberg3:

The question is, imagine Japan is under your one naijiriya?!

Igbo don't have a common sense sorry if you're Igbo.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Cabalgeneral: 7:46pm On Mar 16
EbinPawaGovt:


The Japanese Toyota, for instance is one of the most popular automobiles in North America. That's 10,000 miles from Japan. I'm sure you own one or two Japanese products in your home. That's how races with high IQ prosper.

Igbo are know for their fake products and inferior lifestyle that's all.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Bridget95(f): 7:46pm On Mar 16
Cabalgeneral:


How many Japanese people you've seen looking for where to survive in another man's land.
How many Japanese people have you seen afraid of competeting in a civilised way with those they deemed looking to survive in Japan.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by onumadu: 7:48pm On Mar 16
I REALLY LOVE this thread.
@OP thank you for opening it.

Now, let's examine the points your raised.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Bridget95(f): 7:51pm On Mar 16
JagabanB:
The hype around lgb0s by lgb0s are not worth it.
I am not a Yoruba but if any trîbè should bràg about intelligence and prosperity, Yorubas should take the front queue and they are not doing.
We always hear about lgb0 intelligence online, when u meet them in the field they are average at best, meet them as fellow students, at internship, at fellowship, at seminars as colleagues etc.
Just some few standing out as intelligent as it should be, so where does this high intelligence mantra stem from?
Chanting a fallacy till it becomes true doesn't make it true.
Again, most of the fàke products in the Nigerian market are made by lgb0s, Japan don't specialize in fakes, they specialize on reliable products.
where is the original or fake your tribesmen produced. Be bold to declare your tribe let's weigh them in influence and wealth spreading from your homeland to elsewhere including outside Nigeria and Africa. Can we know your tribe and let the weighing begin.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by onumadu: 7:56pm On Mar 16
kettykin:
Igbos that pioneeered mobile refinery,mobile transmitter, javelin bombs , retrofitted planes, etc

Igbos fought the British twice , during the Anglo-Aro war which resulted in many casualties among the British and also during Ekumeku war , were the employed guerrilla tactics and agile attacks against the British.

If Japan was a geopolitical zone in Nigeria, they would have been attacked by the british and other Nigerians

The bolded is perhaps the most important reason why Japan could never have been as successful if it found itself sandwiched within a similar geopolitcal area as Igbo found themselves in Nigeria.

People keep forgetting that it was NOT really the British soldiers that colonized Africa for Britain. It was AFRICAN soldiers that did the work.
A very shameful occurence at the time was that you find about 100 British soldiers commanding tens of thousands of African (nay BLACK) soldiers, and destroying ancient African kindoms, subduing them for colonialists.

Let me flip it this way: Had Igbo been an island nation (or an Island where everyone spoke Igbo), then it would have been a TOTALLY different story. In fact Igbo could have even been greater than Japan and would also never have been colonized.

People keep underestimating how Africans defeated themselves for the colonialists of yore, and are STILL DOING THE SAME THING TODAY.
Sad truth.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by onumadu: 8:01pm On Mar 16
EbinPawaGovt:


Mobile refinery and retrofitted planes yes. Mobile transmitter and Javelin bombs no. The former could be linked to the British and the latter, the Germans. If the Ibos had enough guns, if they were well armed via indegenous technology, the British wouldn't have the motivation to fight them as they had no motivation to fight Japan. In fact, the Igbo country was a dense tropical forest where everything would have worked against the invaders. The British had only one confidence - advanced weaponry.

No my friend.
The greatest "advanced weapon" the British had was OTHER BLACK (significantly less intelligent) nations willing to take orders from a handful of British officers.
Don't forget that the colonialists studied Africa for almost 400 years (from 15th century to 19th century) before actually beginning to attack and colonize them.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by CrossRhodes: 8:09pm On Mar 16
EbinPawaGovt:
I read about the former US Secretary of State, Henry Kessinger describing the Ibos as the Jews of Africa due to their higher intelligence than most black tribes. I also read about European countries telling Biafran delegations that they prefer supporting Nigeria during the Nigerian-Biafran war simply because "another Japan in Africa would not favour Europe." Despite the high intelligence and industry of the Ibos, I do not subscribe to the notion that Ibos are or would have become the Japan of Africa despite accomplishing technological feats that Nigeria cannot accomplish today during the short-lived Biafra. Here are my reasons:

1) Japan was never colonized by the European but Ibos were. The simple reason why no European country was bold enough to fight to conquer Japan is that the Japanese saw ahead of the Ibos. By late 16th Century, a Japanese Shogungate bought a few guns from the Portuguese. By 1700s, Japan had more guns than most European countries because they simply learned how to make guns and made more guns than the Europeans who initially sold guns to them.

2) By 1600s, less than 200 years after the Japanese met the Europeans, Ibos also had guns they probably bought from the Europeans, but 200 years later, unlike the Japanese, the Ibos had not made enough guns to deter European colonialists. In fact, around this period, the Japanese completely closed their country to the Europens and would only trade for guns. This was a time the Ibo country was being exploited even for manpower - slaves, by the Europeans. I remember reading about the Portuguese ambassador to Japan telling the king of Portugal (while describing Japan and their insistence on trading only for guns) that "This is not Africa." This points to the fact that Africans are significantly of lower intelligence than the Japanese, and Ibos are not excluded.

3) As probably the most intelligent tribe in Africa, I believe that the Ibos were best positioned to stop the colonialist (British, French and Germans) if they had foresight like the Japanese and insisted on trading for guns and using their local technology to mass produce it just as they did during the war with Nigeria, unfortunately they could not and had to fight the British for nearly 30 years as underdogs. Granted, they were probably the only tribe that had the pride to fight in present-day Nigeria, but fighting and losing isn't enough. They could have done more through deterrrence were they actually like the Japanese.

4) In essence, there is no taking from the Ibos their high intelligence par African level, but it is mere wishful thinking to claim that Ibos or Biafra would have become the Japan of Africa. Maybe they'd have become close to Singapore, but not exactly like Japan. If Ibos are like Japan, they shouldn't have been colonized and African blacks would have had respect among other races for producing one of the two nations that were never colonized in Africa.

Are Ibos like the Japanese? Maybe. Are they the Japan of Africa? No.
Which tribe is "ibo"?

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by onumadu: 8:12pm On Mar 16
EmiloCorn:
I like how they gave their students the highest cut off marks to scale through in jamb and National Common Entrance if not they would have pushed all the other tribes out of all the schools in this country cool


Those standard school tests is the most transparent and constant IQ test in Nigeria.
And the results speak it all.
The Igbo are just an unfortunate nation because of where they find themselves geographically.
Some nations are like that. Only God knows why he located those nations where they are.
Maybe he located them there to bring enlightenment or to improve group intelligence of nearby groups.
Take Japan for example, there is little doubt that Japan influenced Korea (and even China sef, though China boasts older civilization).

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