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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by FuckOsuPigs: 2:50pm On Mar 17 |
Okortor: If you no mention other religion, your prick no go rise. Na like curse for una. The guy revealed the rot in your fake religion but instead of you to absorb his revelation and make a change, na to dey chase shadows. Dindinrin 1 Like |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Tareq1105: 3:06pm On Mar 17 |
AntiChristian: I don't understand this guy. He said he was not a worker and he didn't attend any Bible training at Living Faith Winners yet he said he had been preaching on the street as a member of Living Faith Church. Thank God he didn't say anything about miracles at Living Faith Church, I would have asked him just 2 questions. Living Faith is a teaching church. |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Tareq1105: 3:07pm On Mar 17 |
FuckOsuPigs: What's your religion? |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by musicwriter(m): 3:13pm On Mar 17 |
Two things he got wrong:- 1. He weren't switching churches because of miracles but that's the time he started being curious whether what he believed was actually true. So, he started looking for the truth to the best of his knowledge. At the end he discovered what we all who left Christianity discovered. Jesus is a FRAUD. It's an illusion!! 2. The second thing he got wrong is Spirituality. Someone who knows him should tell him that spirituality is not the same as religion. Spirituality is the thing he has embraced now (being void of any religion) whether foreign or local. Spirituality is not on the side of a God or Devil but on the side of good for humanity. It's when you find spirituality that you eventually find God. If God is a spirit, then you must know him through spiritually. You don't need any type of religion to know him. 1 Like |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by johnog4sure: 3:16pm On Mar 17 |
PoliteActivist:The vulnerable make the highest percentage in any congregation, they are majorly those who are made to believe they owe God worship, they include regular goers, 'sinners', church workers, etc. |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by PoliteActivist: 3:22pm On Mar 17 |
johnog4sure: Gotcha |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by PoliteActivist: 3:24pm On Mar 17 |
musicwriter: Sooo, how do you find "spirituality"? |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by DREAMHOMES6970(m): 3:36pm On Mar 17 |
GreatAchiever1: So do you mean all other religions will perish aside Christians? I still don't believe in religion but I believe in love my friend. However I'm open to learn something from you if you are willing to share your understanding about the true ordained religion. |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by musicwriter(m): 3:37pm On Mar 17 |
PoliteActivist: Spirituality is the thing he's doing now- being and doing good because it's the right thing to do, not because a religion said you should do or be good to others. |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by sterlingD(m): 3:42pm On Mar 17 |
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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by DREAMHOMES6970(m): 3:45pm On Mar 17 |
SeriouslySense: I never said I don't believe in Jesus my friend, don't get me wrong. Moreover no one believes in Jesus Christ more than I do because I've had encounters. And how am I spreading wickedness? because I said I don't believe in religion of any type; rather I believe in love and you my friend know that love is the only thing that can keep the world as one and not religion. Jesus Christ never preached about religion but He emphasized so much on Love. |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by johnog4sure: 3:49pm On Mar 17 |
GreatAchiever1: I was expecting you to quote that verse, I will answer you, he simply meant 'do as I do' Peter later discovered this truth in Act 10:34-35 it doesn't matter your religious affiliation the universe will judge us by what we DO, still wondering why some black people believe a loving God we throw billions of Chinese, Indians, Jews etc. in hell, just because they don't practice a confused religion called Christianity? The same religion who said nothing can separate you from His love Romans 8:35. Finally do you really know the God you claim you worship? Because Jesus himself said this in John 4:20-24 you don't need doctrines, congregation, fellowship to worship the standard here is TRUTH & SPIRIT you can never know the truth if you're feeding your ignorance with religious lies and falsehood. |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by johnog4sure: 3:57pm On Mar 17 |
GreatAchiever1:Now let's do some reasoning if the white man had not introduced your enslaved fathers, how else would you have heard of Jesus? You would have been condemned to hell? Let's reason. |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by mukthar2000(m): 4:18pm On Mar 17 |
this one don realize say church na scam with their false meracle to desive their followers. Though the guy was searching for meracle, but but all na Bleep up for him. I pray for other followers to quickly wake up as well to demand for their tithes instead of enriched pastors.
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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by BePrepared: 5:14pm On Mar 17 |
aestake:Read bible u nor gree 1 Corinthians 9:7,9-16 KJV Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock? [9] For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen? [10] Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope. [11] If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things? [12] If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ. [13] Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? [14] Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel. [15] But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. [16] For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel! |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by obinnazy(m): 5:18pm On Mar 17 |
blowjohn: Na then AHMADIOHA will come for him 1 Like |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by blowjohn(m): 5:20pm On Mar 17 |
obinnazy: 😂😂😂😂 |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by GreatAchiever1: 5:25pm On Mar 17 |
johnog4sure: You quote Acts 10:34-35, so please tell me why did you skipped 36? These other countries you mentioned, please tell me if their false religions proclaim Jesus Christ as Lord of all. Yes the Lord is not partial, and if they come to Christ in repentance and forsake their false gods, tell me will God abandon them. Romans 8:35, is the ample ground of the believers confidence in Christ and not for degenerate sinners. See how you even twisted John 4:20-24 to conclude that one don't need doctrine, infact it's because of people like you who are bent on twisted the word of God in Scripture to mean anything is the very reason why doctrine matters. |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by GreatAchiever1: 5:29pm On Mar 17 |
johnog4sure: If I hadn't known Christ, to be honest, Yes. Because there is chance I will end up worshipping false gods. But thank God, that is not the case for me, this is why the gospel is to be preached far and wide to save souls. Do you even think we deserve heaven, do you know it's because of God's mercy and Grace some will end up in heaven. If it is to be fair we all deserve hell. |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by GreatAchiever1: 5:34pm On Mar 17 |
DREAMHOMES6970: No offence but you sound like a hippie. Yes bro, all other religions will perish except those who are in Christ. Where do you get all this love ideas from? You know what, a video will explain more than I can ever will. If you have data, go to YouTube and watch the Third Adam series, it's a four part series but it's totally worth it. |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Mcslize: 5:36pm On Mar 17 |
flexyrule once said tithe is a mystery. I asked him how many orphanages or a needy person does he normally help monthly since has been a Christian. I then quoted the book of Mathew for him. Till date, he hasn't been able to counter my claim about tithe. For the umpteenth times, I want to reiterate it again. The best tithe any Christian will ever give God is the help you render to the needy ones out there. If you like, take 1 million naira and give to the church as tithe. If you can't help any one needy person or orphanage out there, you will be regarded as those on the left hand side of the Jesus Christ the King. Those he referred to as the goats in verse 33 and 41-43. When the day finally comes, everyone will answer to God what they did with their one tithes. Many will say they give it to the church. Don't be caught unguard. Be wise! Read what will happen below: Mathew 25:31-46 25:31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy[c] angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 25:32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 25:33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 25:34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 25:35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 25:36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’ 25:37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 25:38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 25:39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 25:40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’ 25:41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 25:42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 25:43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’ 25:44 “Then they also will answer Him,[d] saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 25:45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 25:46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by PoliteActivist: 6:17pm On Mar 17 |
musicwriter: Sooo being and doing good is spirituality?? |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by jice(m): 6:18pm On Mar 17 |
Naturalist with traditional worship that is full time spiritual. You have not found out your problem |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by blahc007: 6:20pm On Mar 17 |
thesicilian:Sentiments as usual.... Well, thank God you understand now that the young lad is wallowing in confusion... In case your miracle is staged, mine is not.. The God I serve and have experienced practically is a miracle working God... I have seen it happen, I have my personal experiences... If you get problem with Pastors go sort it out bro... |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by millionboi2: 7:08pm On Mar 17 |
superCleanworks:I think the church later called him and helped him but he is not being truthful. |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Basic123: 7:35pm On Mar 17 |
Okortor: Jesus Christ is world biggest head slammer Numbers 20:6 Verse Concepts Then Moses and Aaron came in from the presence of the assembly to the doorway of the tent of meeting and fell on their faces. Then the glory of the Lord appeared to them Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Prostration Revelation 7:11 Verse Concepts And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures; and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Prostration 1 Kings 18:39 Verse Concepts When all the people saw it, they fell on their faces; and they said, “The Lord, He is God; the Lord, He is God Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Prostration Matthew 26:39 Verse Concepts And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Prostration |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by johnog4sure: 7:44pm On Mar 17 |
GreatAchiever1:Even with 36, does that make any difference, Jesus himself said it in Mathew 7:21 emphasis has always been on DO, if you like follow all doctrines, and theologies, if you don't DO, but those you are judging (Buddhist, Islam and Atheist) DO, they will go to the heaven you proclaimed while you will be cast out . It's appalling how you make yourself a judge and know who are sinners and who aren't, so much for your lovely religion. Finally I'll gain nothing twisting anything, I mean why should I, I am not looking for 'believers' or 'converts' it is you people that are always looking for validation by large followership. You see religious people are like smokers, just like tobacco smokers they will see all the warning written on the pack of cigarettes 'smokers are liable to die young' they will still go ahead to buy and smoke. I will always point out the Truth with good reasoning and evidence it is left for you to make your decision. Peace and love from here. |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by aestake: 7:58pm On Mar 17 |
BePrepared:Na every book wey you see you dey read? |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by GreatAchiever1: 8:01pm On Mar 17 |
johnog4sure: Yes all those religion you mentioned that I'm judging, Yes, they will not enter heaven EXCEPT if they repent and believe in the Son, Jesus, This is the will of God. I'm not sure you take time to study your bible to know what you're claiming, you seem to cherry-pick bible verse alot without understanding and it's probably because maybe you may have irritation to the Christian faith because of what some false preachers have made Christianity to look like but that is no excuse to turn away from Christianity and look at it with some sort of disdain. You say I'm the judge, as long as what I'm saying is what the bible says, then you can call me what you want. And for sinners, we are all sinners that is why we need a saviour and that is Jesus who came to die a substitutionary death for us in order to reconcile us to the Father, but that same Jesus, other religions don't accept who He is, and you claim they will go to heaven, I really don't know who is giving you these false beliefs but I will advice you to desist from such. I'm not looking for converts, my own is just to preach Christ and proclaim the bible as the authoritative word of God as the absolute truth. And my guy what you claim to say as "truth" is nothing but lies as far as scripture is concerned and is damnable to someone soul. I pray you repent from it and come to the true knowledge of Christ. |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by superCleanworks(m): 8:13pm On Mar 17 |
millionboi2:You can't be thinking and drawing conclusions at the same time. |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by thedio(m): 8:20pm On Mar 17 |
Okortor:Perhaps u don't know that Muslims don't pay tithe to anyone |
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Bonapart(m): 8:45pm On Mar 17 |
vibemad007:phool, there was nothing like COVID. I thought you were wise heediot |
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