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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by JagabanB: 7:06pm On Mar 17 |
Bridget95:I thought u are the "Japan of Africa" does Japan flood the market with fake products? 90% of lgb0 products are fake, u wonder why top performing companies are not lgb0 owned? U wonder why Ibeto is struggling in cement industry? Fake!!! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Bridget95(f): 7:13pm On Mar 17 |
JagabanB:mention your tribe here let's see who produces fake. Do you even know what fake means ? Get an education or use a dictionary to understand what fake means. I don't want to insult you here because of nairaland rules. If give the free hand, you will get it raw. All I see is jealousy, whoever is jealous of another keeps himself down 6 Likes |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by JagabanB: 7:22pm On Mar 17 |
Bridget95:As usual, always èmótîonaI about everything. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You think I am someone u can insûIt? Maybe u want to deactivate ur account. If I bring my èdûcàtion, if they combine everything that u caII fam!Iy, they wóñ't match it. If I bring my level of dictionary use, everything u caII fam!Iy wóñ't match it. U are not worthy to be called Japan of Africa, we cañ't adopt that and Iet other countrîès laugh at us. From clothes to shoes to bags to machine parts the lgb0s make, they are all fakes. Japan dón't behave that way. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 7:34pm On Mar 17 |
JagabanB: Do not digress. That's why we complain about the intelligence of many black tribes. The topic is about the Ibos high IQ and why they couldn't use it to stop the Britiah conquest of the Igbo country. If yiu have nothing to contribute on that, please exit. It's already on record that they're the smartest african tribe. Disprove Google. 2 Likes
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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by JagabanB: 7:49pm On Mar 17 |
EbinPawaGovt:Whatever u find on Google is written by people, those people could be as guided as urseIf. U don't wake up one day and become the smartest. When great kingdoms from ancient times are mentioned, u won't find one that belongs to lgbos, when great cities are mentioned in Africa today, u won't find one that belongs to lgb0s. If we put the list of iconic Nigerians in a table, lgb0s won't dominate, google didn't write it, another misguided person wrote it. It's simple to understand. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 8:00pm On Mar 17 |
JagabanB: No. What you find on Google first page isn't merely "written by people" but proven from "Authority Sources" They are not just provable but reproducible. For instqance, the fact that the top WAEC and JAMB canditates are concurrently IBOs makes it reproducible. No matter your propaganda againat the Ibos, data aggregation is both a science and an art and big data companies such as Google know how to sift the truth from the hype. It is called identification of pattern from a mass of data. If it wasn't science, your Nigerian propaganda against the Ibos would have drowned it or even replaced this fact with a lie as you're working hard to do here. The same way the presidential election was MANIPULATED. Anyway, back to the topic, why do you think the Ibos despite being the most intelligent African tribe couldn't make enough guns to prevent the colonialist conquest of the Ibo country? 4 Likes |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by cassyrooy(m): 9:35pm On Mar 17 |
EbinPawaGovt:You lack Sovereignty, so you're not going to have political sway to push for certain things. If we have Sovereignty, I would have suggested a full return to Ọdịnala with reforms and then massively investment in science but the predicament here means survive first before development. |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 9:42pm On Mar 17 |
cassyrooy: My question is why Islam - probably the most retrogressive religion that has blown no human society good? The Israeli and the Japanese and even the erstwhile Chrsitan Europr and America have been positively impacted by their religions. Why did you mention Islam for Ibos, the potentiallly most technically advanced tribe in Africa? 2 Likes |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by cassyrooy(m): 9:49pm On Mar 17 |
EbinPawaGovt:Saudi Arabia brought Cristiano, Neymar, Kante, Benzema, Mendy, Mitrovic, Mahrez and almost 50 other stars from Europe to show you that they're very enlightened but first they had to win the war of Colonialism and Western Cultural Pollution, same thing with Kuwait, Qatar, UAE that many nationales are flocking to for tourism and work. If you understand Wahabhism, you'll see something important for us at this stage of our existence and we still have options of secularisation later in the future. |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by BabaRamota1980: 10:20pm On Mar 17 |
It is written, and on record about a King of Lagos in 1851, so powerful in might that Portuguese merchants in Lisbon and in Bahia would use his name to threaten debtors into settling monies owed. Just a mention that a slave supply, or a ship's cargo belonged to the King of Onim was enough to drive fear into the hearts of slave debtors so merchants can collect debts and settle contracts. In the bombardment of Lagos by British Navy, same King commanded defense of Lagos. Britain, world's most powerful naval force, was held in check over several days. They admitted defeat in Lagos, and had given order to retreat if by midday they had not captured the shore. That morning, a cannon fire hit the stockpile of live ammunitions and started an uncontrollable inferno. This simple luck turned the war in favor of Britain, and they landed on shore. After their assessment, they were greatly awed by the strategy and bravery of the Lagosians. It did not end there. The King went on exile. After several covert operations to eliminate this King, he kept outsmarting the British authorities. Eventually, Britain got exhausted and surrendered to his might. In a negotiation for return from exile, they built a new settlement for his followers, and a new palace for him. This is the story of a true mighty King, and a people known for military strength, power, intelligence and victory. His reign and victory is documented in Brazil, in Portugal, in England, in America and in Nigeria. Not some fairy tale about an unknown people stitching jargons together to build for themselves a phantom empire that no one can trace in history. Shyyte! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_55UXGwRvI?feature=shared 2 Likes
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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by onumadu: 3:45am On Mar 18 |
kettykin: Spot on. Let me add to this that there appears to be a secret agreement somewhere that an Igbo must never be president of Nigeria: For the same reason that, if an Igbo leads Nigeria, he will free everybody's human capacity. I say this because the University of Nigeria Nsukka was founded by Zik -a man who believed in the same goal; and what is the Motto of the University? TO RESTORE THE DIGNITY OF MAN. Methinks that the greatest proof of Igbo superior IQ (compared to others who have co-conspired to keep them out of the top leadership position in the country) is this singular belief in his own humanity; i.e that there are no races out there superior to his own. That he is as human as a German or Japanese or Chinese ... etc. That is why an Igbo man is manufacturing and exporting automobiles of all kinds from his own village in Igboland, and is succeeding. Unless something changes fundamentally in Nigeria, the only way for an Igbo to become president of Nigeria is through the "emi lokan" way. |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Deadlytruth(m): 8:10am On Mar 18 |
onumadu:Per the first bolded, Ironsi clinched power and all his decrees were centripetal, and the centripetal structure which he imposed on us has ended up killing innovative spirit, creating entitlement mentality, causing intellectual laziness, and killing human capital. Per the second bolded, How come Igbos have not been able to use that their superior intelligence in beating the forces allegedly colluding to block them from power with an inferior intelligence? 1 Like |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Oriental4: 9:12am On Mar 18 |
Deadlytruth: Let me answer: 1) Igbos are fighting on many fronts: The Europeans, Americans, and fellow black tribes being used to keep the great tribe dragged back. 2) Igbo are too individualistic and have united only once during Biafra. I think they do not know their full potential and that the West doesn't want them to herald the African renaissance. If only Igbo could realise how much the black races depend on their unity, they'd not wait for only calamity such as Biafra to unite them. Igbo clans and families are more interested in pursuing money than pursuing nationhood - which is what Africa needs from them. Even our less endowed African tribes are not aware they're mere tools in the hands of the colonialists. That's why they allowed the British to teleguide them ... |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by babasolution: 9:32am On Mar 18 |
Oriental4: This is the problem with the igbos which attract hate,this faux superiority mindset,igbos are not better blacks,they haven't shown any reason to be regarded as better blacks, igbos were lucky to be given almost monopoly of trade in NIG, which gave them success,if other tribes go in to trade,igbos are done 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Oriental4: 9:52am On Mar 18 |
babasolution: So you, a black man that the whiteman is still teaching in the whiteman's school now claims to know more than the whiteman? The whitemans said they don't want another Japan in Africa - Igbo, you that they're still teaching like a baby in their school is claiming they're lying because you feel like rubbing shoulders with the Igbo because they're in the same country with you - see finish level na. The Igbos proved their capacity as innovators within 3 years of existence as an independent country - you still doubt. Google ranks Igbo as the most intelligent African tribe, you, a black man who still learn from te whiteman's school say it's a lie. Their children are outperforming yours in national and international exams. You still cry. Okay show us your own result from your village which tribe is the most intelligent or most industrous in Africa, since you don't believe the white people and you don't believe Google. We are waiting/
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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Putindbutt: 10:01am On Mar 18 |
babasolution:Ibos were allowed in trade to pacify them aftermath of the civil war. Remember, Ghanaians were all over trading until they were told to leave, then ibos took over. Nothing special about ibos. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Oriental4: 10:23am On Mar 18 |
Putindbutt: I'm sure you pacify their children by allowing them to beat yours silly in national and international exams too? Theirs require 162 to enter unity schools, yours require 6 for entry into the same schools. Another way of "pacifying" them as aftermath of the civil war ba? Even your government knows that the tribe is superintelligent compared to the rest of you. Yet some of you are doubting Google thinking it'll grant your biases.
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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Putindbutt: 11:13am On Mar 18 |
Oriental4:It is called quota system, southeast can also set their cut off marks to 2, nobody will hold you. Those miracle centers una dey rely on, Mmesonma is just one out of many. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Oriental4: 11:19am On Mar 18 |
Putindbutt: You see why the OP has been complaining about the IQ of some African tribes? Anyway, the post is about the Igbo and Japan, not for some low IQ comments. |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Putindbutt: 11:36am On Mar 18 |
Oriental4:Ibo no dey collect their own quota?, South East Development Commission has just been passed into law, why can't you reject it? hypocrites. Only a fool would compare japan with ibos, who dey compare death with sickness, slowpokes. |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Oriental4: 11:54am On Mar 18 |
Putindbutt: Despite your low IQ, I'd like to know your view on why the Igbos couldn't stop the British despite their high Intelligence as Africans.
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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by JagabanB: 12:34pm On Mar 18 |
EbinPawaGovt:Going by your explanation, why is this first when I searched? Google has proven a Twitter post from "authority sources"? Google don't put sites first because they come from authority sources, google can even put a Iie on the first page for various reasons such as how the site is frequented, how well the key words in your search match with the site etc etc. Back to your question, they couldn't make enough gûñs to repel the british because they are not the most intelligent, lgb0s have never been and wiII never be the most intelligent tribe in Africa, no matter how the propaganda is soId, it will never fIy, being criminaIIy minded does not transIate to being smart. The countries with the most intelligent people like Japan, Taiwan etc are all developed countries, topping WAEC and JAMB doesn't mean u are the most intelligent, other tribes have been doing it over the years, it didn't add to their intelligence. The level of ur intelligence is measured in ur overall output as an individual, then in this case as a society, the supposed intelligence of the lgb0s is not showing in their society, not in ancient times not in present times, selling the narratives that lgb0s are the most intelligent is faIse and it's a narrative that has been let to fIy for too long. Japan as an intelligent country reflects in their society, u can't come from a society that has no single world class development in ancient and present time and claim to be the most intelligent. 4 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Oriental4: 2:17pm On Mar 18 |
JagabanB: In other words, the cited source by the Twittter post "a US Academic Report" is not an authority? And why couldn't you disprove that Igbo children are required to score higher marks for entry into federal schools and they consistently are tops in national and international exams? Please explain the most intelligent tribe in Africa and convince Google to diplace the Igbo. |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Deadlytruth(m): 3:24pm On Mar 18 |
Oriental4: You may need to expatiate on the above and cite specific instances if you are to be taken seriously. Oriental4:This is not true. Igbos had always found unity and unanimity in political choices prior to independence and the war. Their choice of NPC-NCNC coalition was unanimous. Their decision to suppress their quest for independence till the North was ready to be part of Nigeria was unanimous. Also their choice to fight and kill secession clause proposal was in unity. And so much more. Oriental4: This is inverted accusation because Igbos by all records in the annals of history were the only actual tools in the hands of the colonial overlords. Please recall that while the political leaders of all other tribes from as far back as 1944 began to describe Nigeria as a British contraption aimed at milking dry the resources of the people native to the area in question, and moving motions to end the British fraud in order to free themselves from the British experiment, only the Igbo leaders kept of chorusing one-Nigeria and declaring that the unity of Nigeria is perpetual and non-negotiable. Ahmadu Bello: What we call Nigeria today is the mistake of 1914 Awolowo: Nigeria is a mere geographical expression and there are no Nigerians in the same sense as there are Germans, French, Britons, etc. Tafawa Balewa: Nigeria is a British experiment and Nigeria unity is a British intention which the people themselves don't believe in. Nnamdi Azikiwe: The unity of Nigeria is perpetual and non-negotiable. We Easterners don't mind paying the ultimate price to keep Nigeria one and intact. From the speeches above and the ethnic group of those who made them, which tribe in Nigeria could be correctly said to be a tool in the hands of the British colonialists back then and even till this moment? Be honest in your response. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Oriental4: 3:35pm On Mar 18 |
[quote author=Deadlytruth post=128987791] This is not true. Igbos had always found unity and unanimity in political choices prior to independence and the war. Their choice of NPC-NCNC coalition was unanimous. Their decision to suppress their quest for independence till the North was ready to be part of Nigeria was unanimous. Also their choice to fight and kill secession clause proposal was in unity. And so much more. We need proof that an Igbo politician's belief reflects the collective belief of the Igbos. What you presume is that the Igbo are like your tribe that are moved by herd opinion. The Igbo society had no central rulers and so, no one man can represent the opinion of the Igbo. That is why the si-called Igbo coup was also thwarted by Igbo officers. Zik's opinion is his alone and Zik is barely a "full Igbo" since he was raised in the North. The same with Nzeogwu who was raised in the North. This is inverted accusation because Igbos by all records in the annals of history were the only actual tools in the hands of the colonial overlords. Please recall that while the political leaders of all other tribes from as far back as 1944 began to describe Nigeria as a British contraption aimed at milking dry the resources of the people native to the area in question, and moving motions to end the British fraud in order to free themselves from the British experiment, only the Igbo leaders kept of chorusing one-Nigeria and declaring that the unity of Nigeria is perpetual and non-negotiable. @Ebinpawagovt, sorry for not sticking to the topic. I think Nairaland isn't a place for academic discussions as we would on Reddit or Quora due to the quality of reasoning here. |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Deadlytruth(m): 4:05pm On Mar 18 |
[quote author=Oriental4 post=128987991][/quote] Funny and phoney excuses. Azikiwe did all he did and said all he said in representative capacity on behalf of Igbos who elected him to the federal Parliament of those times. Else how come no single Igbo man is recorded to have publicly tackled him or moved a motion for his recall from that Parliament? If anything, Igbos are actually the herd mentality voting tribes. Check the results of last presidential election and see that Obi won in all the states in his SE Region while voters in the regions of Atiku and Tinubu didn't overwhelmingly vote for them as they each lost at least one of the states in their home regions meaning that in such states their brothers were able to rise above ethnic considerations in making their choices. Again Igbos voted as herd for Jonathan while in all other regions it was split. Likewise for Yaradua. Please you are more needed in romance or comedy section. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Oriental4: 4:58pm On Mar 18 |
Deadlytruth: The election of 2023 is actually proof of the OP position that they're the most intelligent tribe in Africa. Imagine a people who saw through the Tinubu and Buhari incompetence. You rather owe Igbo an apology for low intelligence voting dragging them back. I can't laugh abeg...that you're even proud of voting Tinubu has evinced your low IQ, which is what the OP is about. So let's not derail rthe post. It's about Igbos inability to stop the colonialist unlike the Japanes. If you have a view on that please. |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by JagabanB: 5:48pm On Mar 18 |
Oriental4:US academic reports can be done by anybody. I don't have the data to show or prove that lgb0 children are required to score higher marks to gain entry into federal schools. I have written several exams with lgb0s and out scored them. If there's a requirement that lgb0s require the highest cut off mark then it's part of what u lgb0s call "marginalization". Google didn't write sh*t, people wrote it on google and people are swaIIowing that story because nobody is challenging that story. Anambra is been touted as the best in education, where are the genius they have been graduating since the days of Peter Obi? Why are lgb0s not coming out as the best performing students from universities across Nigeria? The best results from universities in breaking records set in the country were not done by lgb0s or ur great intelligence stop with kids? Intelligent people build great societies, lgb0s have never for once built any great society in their history. U are ruIed by ur fellow great intellects yet those intellects don't know that there should be pipeborne water or proper sanitation? Let ur supposed intelligence transform ur society or ur intelligence stop with kids and teenagers? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Oriental4: 6:16pm On Mar 18 |
JagabanB: Awwwn... a pity you have no way of changing reality with talk....even Obasanjo, your tribesman concurred with Google. Let's even forget what the Europeans said and did. Anyway, the topic is about why the Igbos couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country despite being the most intelligent Afican tribe. What do you have to say about that? Any contribution since you claim not to be a low IQed African?
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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Deadlytruth(m): 6:21pm On Mar 18 |
Oriental4:A high IQ people who vote for Shagari a barely educated Fulani man. The same high IQ people, at a moment as critical as independence, chose an alliance that would give power to the educationally most backward part of the country. A high IQ people who voted for a barely educated Alhaji Bashir Tofa over Abiola a first class graduate of Accountancy from University of Glasgow Scotland in the 1993 election. A high IQ people who voted for Arthur Nzeribe twice into the Senate after the same Arthur Nzeribe helped the FG import weapons which were used to kill millions of them during the Biafra war. A high IQ people who were initially of the opinion that Peter Obi failed as governor in Anambra but suddenly began to bath him with accolades of performance when it began to appear that he was a serious contender for the post. A high IQ people who have been voting to power as their own governors the likes of Orji Uzor Kalu, Theodore Orji, Ikpeazu (Mr. Kerosene), who all milked dry their state's purses , and worst of all whitewashed Peter Obi who invested state funds into his family business. May God never give me that kind of IQ. 3 Likes 1 Share |
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