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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 4:11pm On Mar 18
Great observation DaHighlife

What I understood he said is that 'if I don't get elected, it will lead to a bloodbath', and when he said 'that'll be the least of it,' he was referring to the automotive industry. Meaning, the loss of auto plants would be the least of our concerns compared to the bloodbath that would ensue if I'm not elected

This is just the pure meaning of what he said. Why are you twisting yourself into pretzels, Mr Ramdeuter? What did he mean by "the least of our concerns" Mr Ram?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 4:19pm On Mar 18
raumdeuter:
Trump: If I get elected I will put tarrif on every Chinese car, if I don't get elected, it will be a bloodbath for the auto industry and the country

Liberal media: Trump promises bloodbath and violence if he loses

This is the same Criminal who made these claims. Why do you think people were alarmed?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:29pm On Mar 18
DaHighLife:


Find out where that link to the article was posted, and you'll get your answer. I also read comments at times to gauge people's perceptions. However, sometimes the comments don't align with the article or the site. For example, if 90% of posts on an NPR article sound deranged, yet most people who read or listen to NPR don't write like that, it's generally because the article was linked by a right-wing site.

I'm not saying this was the case here; I'm saying I wouldn't use the posts as a litmus test. However, I can also see how people could interpret it differently. But given his statements in the past and who he generally is, I believe the media got it right. The Trump campaign could easily release the speech he read off the teleprompter or a video of what was on the teleprompter when he delivered those lines. I doubt they will, though, they know what he meant.

This is youtube from Forbes. Forbes is not right wing and its not a place right wing people go to for content. If almost everyone on the comment section could read and understand but the media posting it cannot understand, Maybe there is an agenda to it. Like Trump likes to call them "Fake news"
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:32pm On Mar 18
bemeruca:
I don't blame them entirely. this is the thing I have been telling Basilico why I want Trump to step aside. The media is out for his blood, at this stage he has to start making proactive decisions. Bruteforce thinks about the possible ways the media can lie about him and not give them the avenue to do so. they hate him, they lie, so he should not give them any chance to LIE against him.

he should start using scripts and have people go through what he has to say before he gives a speech.
his arrogance is too much.
he could just stay in a basement and not make the media focus on him to win this election but each time he is out there putting up controversies like this, one or two people who wanted to vote for him will change their mind. we know his die-hard fans will always vote for him but some people do not consume news like us and they don't dig deep to expose the media's lies.

His appeal to people is that he is not scripted like the normal politician who speaks through recorded prepred speeches which most times does not represent what they really mean or what they want to do but garnished stuff by aides

People have seen 4yrs of Trump and 4yrs of Biden. In the 4yrs did Stock market crash, did he start a war, did he deploy nuclear codes and every doom predicted would happen?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:39pm On Mar 18
DaHighLife:


I did listen to it. I read it. Then I thought how I would diagram it. In fact, I initially thought the media misunderstood it until I listened to the entire clip. What I understood he said is that 'if I don't get elected, it will lead to a bloodbath', and when he said 'that'll be the least of it,' he was referring to the automotive industry. Meaning, the loss of auto plants would be the least of our concerns compared to the bloodbath that would ensue if I'm not elected.

He's clearly not very articulate and struggles to maintain focus. So, it was evidently an adlib. He even paused himself when he realized the implications of what he was saying, then proceeded. Moreover, he has been repeating the same narrative consistently. If I lose, the economy will collapse, states like Ohio or Pennsylvania won't exist, doom and gloom. This aligns with what he has been instructed to say by Roger Stone in 2016, as well as his actions on January 6th, and so forth.

You're arguing to interpret what he said without considering the context of his seven-year-long rhetoric and the advice given by his advisors. My question is why?



Trump was speaking about car manufacturing and tarriffs on automobiles, why the need to focus on bloodbath and claim he wants violence. Is it your understanding that Trump was threatening violence on the country?

Its similar to saying 'Highlife dont lose your head" and next Media goes with "Ramdeter wants to behead Highlife"

That is dishonesty and what's why people don't trust the media

A CNN staff admitted that much that their station did everything


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4R_p-qG0wQ

"We were creating stories we didn't know anything about, I think thats Propaganda. Look what we did we got Trump out, I am 100% going to say it that if it wasn't for CNN I dont think Trump would have got voted out"

"Fear sells"

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:43pm On Mar 18
DaHighLife:
If I lose, the economy will collapse, states like Ohio or Pennsylvania won't exist, doom and gloom. This aligns with what he has been instructed to say by Roger Stone in 2016, as well as his actions on January 6th, and so forth.

How is it different from what Hillary said about Trump winning too or was it Rger Stone who advised Hillary too?

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 4:56pm On Mar 18
raumdeuter:


His appeal to people is that he is not scripted like the normal politician who speaks through recorded prepred speeches which most times does not represent what they really mean or what they want to do but garnished stuff by aides


He has made his point. Now he has to draw in people who want to see a well-articulated speaker, not someone they see as controversial all the time. there are independents, lefthaters, and rightlovers... he should focus on the indie part. the Lefthaters will never vote for him.. the rightlovers will always vote for him
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DaHighLife: 5:07pm On Mar 18
raumdeuter:


This is youtube from Forbes. Forbes is not right wing and its not a place right wing people go to for content. If almost everyone on the comment section could read and understand but the media posting it cannot understand, Maybe there is an agenda to it. Like Trump likes to call them "Fake news"

Let me try it again.
If Trump posts a link to a link from a Forbes article on his Truth feed, his predominantly conservative supporters will click on the link and visit Forbes. These individuals aren't typically regular readers of Forbes. Consequently, it's these Trump supporters who are now commenting on the articles. I've observed this pattern repeatedly. This will sound elitist, but the giveaway is usually when there's an influx of illogical comments on a platform that generally attracts well-informed readers.

I'm not suggesting it occurred in this instance, but what I am emphasizing is not to place too much trust in comments as representative of a broader viewpoint.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:19pm On Mar 18
raumdeuter:


On the video from the same Forbes youtube page

Go and read the comments and how almost everyone understood context except the leftist media

The whole cuntry now knows hw corrupt the establishment media is

The know exactly what Trump meant. Sadly, America has tens of low IQ retarded voters who believe the media spin.
The media's job is to make Trump look bad.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DaHighLife: 5:21pm On Mar 18
raumdeuter:


Trump was speaking about car manufacturing and tarriffs on automobiles, why the need to focus on bloodbath and claim he wants violence. Is it your understanding that Trump was threatening violence on the country?

Its similar to saying 'Highlife dont lose your head" and next Media goes with "Ramdeter wants to behead Highlife"

That is dishonesty and what's why people don't trust the media

A CNN staff admitted that much that their station did everything


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4R_p-qG0wQ

"We were creating stories we didn't know anything about, I think thats Propaganda. Look what we did we got Trump out, I am 100% going to say it that if it wasn't for CNN I dont think Trump would have got voted out"

"Fear sells"

I have provided you with a recording of one of his advisors saying he would advice him to express the same sentiment. You also acknowledge that fear is a powerful selling point. Yet, somehow, it's deemed a step too far to recognize that Trump intended to leverage the imagery of bloodbaths, as advised by his advisor, to instill fear as a selling point for his election?

It appears you prefer to isolate Trump from his words and who he has proven to be. That's a choice you're entitled to make, but is it an informed one?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:11pm On Mar 18
DaHighLife:


I have provided you with a recording of one of his advisors saying he would advice him to express the same sentiment. You also acknowledge that fear is a powerful selling point. Yet, somehow, it's deemed a step too far to recognize that Trump intended to leverage the imagery of bloodbaths, as advised by his advisor, to instill fear as a selling point for his election?

It appears you prefer to isolate Trump from his words and who he has proven to be. That's a choice you're entitled to make, but is it an informed one?

did he advise the leftwing media too or you are just an evil person driven by hate for trump?
this is a montage of bloodbath used to describe about everything from the same media accusing trump
https://x.com/saras76/status/1769705134156615871?s=20
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:52pm On Mar 18
bemeruca:

his arrogance is too much.
he could just stay in a basement and not make the media focus on him to win this election but each time he is out there putting up controversies like this, one or two people who wanted to vote for him will change their mind.

You don't say!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:56pm On Mar 18
DaHighLife:


You're arguing to interpret what he said without considering the context of his seven-year-long rhetoric and the advice given by his advisors. My question is why?

How what he said has been perceived by Democrats and how magas would perceive it, you mean.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by zendi: 7:05pm On Mar 18
raumdeuter:
Trump: If I get elected I will put tarrif on every Chinese car, if I don't get elected, it will be a bloodbath for the auto industry and the country

Liberal media : Trump promises bloodbath and violence if he loses


Liberalism is a mental disorder !

This the title of an actual book that remains in circulation, so not that an offensive post, attention mods.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by zendi: 8:26pm On Mar 18
The pains of hostage relatives are well understood. But they should intermix their impatience with some expressions of appreciation of the efforts and sacrifices of the IDF to stop Hamas from coming to obliterate Israel altogether..
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 8:28pm On Mar 18
zendi:
The pains of hostage relatives are well understood. But they should intermix their impatience with some expressions of appreciation of the efforts and sacrifices of the IDF to stop Hamas from coming to obliterate Israel altogether..

Israel is occupied by Arabs, Surrounded by Arabs, they need all our support
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:01pm On Mar 18
bemeruca:


I don't blame them entirely. this is the thing I have been telling Basilico why I want Trump to step aside. The media is out for his blood, at this stage he has to start making proactive decisions. Bruteforce thinks about the possible ways the media can lie about him and not give them the avenue to do so. they hate him, they lie, so he should not give them any chance to LIE against him.

he should start using scripts and have people go through what he has to say before he gives a speech.
his arrogance is too much.
he could just stay in a basement and not make the media focus on him to win this election but each time he is out there putting up controversies like this, one or two people who wanted to vote for him will change their mind. we know his die-hard fans will always vote for him but some people do not consume news like us and they don't dig deep to exposee media's lies.

The media has no shame. Whatever he does, they will always find an angle to frame it.
If he steps aside DOJ will go for the kill. It's a warning to anyone not part of the elite club to forget about the presidency. It's about trillions of dollars in climate change n forever wars at stake.

Trump has not been able to post a bond. I don't know how this going to end.
In the meantime, Elon Musk posted the video of trump in full context..61m views and counting.
Musk has a bigger audience than evil media combined.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:10pm On Mar 18
bemeruca:


Israel is occupied by Arabs, Surrounded by Arabs, they need all our support

Correct.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DaHighLife: 9:26pm On Mar 18
budaatum:


Et tu ijebosb? Guess you can't beat them so you joined them after all.

Mods don't come here and just ban anyone. You got played by someone reporting you, probably with a different monicker to the one they used to insult you.


Recently, my favourite game got a sequel that disappointed hugely, and the CEO said what I've posted below which got those of us who preordered for £80 all go up in arms since what we got wasn't what was promised. Refund policy on Steam is, no after 2 hours play, which wasn't enough for most to work out we bought a nothing game.

Thankfully, Paradox's money making strategy is to sell dlcs for it's released games, and many would tell you "rob me once, shame on you, rob me twice shame on me!"

No one is asking anyone to bend over for anyone, so stop with the gaslighting! No one is forced to converse with degenerates neither, and if you can't handle the shoddy way the mods run this thread, go to other threads or forums or find something better to do with your time.


Now this is you just being dishonest, and is the precise reason I call someone here a stupid idiot and ignore him.

My line for dishonesty is reached a lot quicker than the one I draw for the "n" word, so I'm going to leave you be so you can spend your time and resource doing what you enjoy here.

Just know that you have made me discuss benalvino more in the last couple of days than I've spent conversing with or about him in the past 12 months. Damn! You've made it so I can't even call him an si at the moment!

IjeBos takes a more high-minded and idealistic approach to this, but he's not necessarily wrong. The implementation of the moderation policy seems inconsistent and capricious. I'm at a loss to explain how a moderator would intervene in this thread solely to address one person's use of the word "idiot" while disregarding others' use of the same term and even harsher language, including tribal slurs. It's akin to (apologies for the offensive analogy) having your floor covered in excrement and being concerned by just one grain of rice that fell on it. Either IjeBos misrepresented the reason for his ban, or there's more to the story. There definitely seems to be some sort of bias here; the question is which type. Let's call a spade a spade.

What troubles me further is that Bemeruca is evidently Benalvino3 and continues to post here. It seems everyone, including the moderators, is aware of this. How is it possible that despite using an embedded link to potentially phish for users' IP addresses and admitting to such behavior in the past, along with other things like admitting to identifying users' web browsers and phone numbers, Bemeruca and all his other known aliases have not faced even a temporary vacation? It's deeply disturbing that the moderators appear either unable or unwilling to safeguard the safety of users on this platform.

If the moderators are unwilling to moderate effectively, it might be better to leave the platform unmoderated so that users are aware of the risks they're facing. However, I've seen enough. Best of luck.

Edit: To top it off, it appears Nairaland won't even allow me to deactivate my account

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 9:53pm On Mar 18
DaHighLife:


IjeBos takes a more high-minded and idealistic approach to this, but he's not necessarily wrong. The implementation of the moderation policy seems inconsistent and capricious. I'm at a loss to explain how a moderator would intervene in this thread solely to address one person's use of the word "idiot" while disregarding others' use of the same term and even harsher language, including tribal slurs. It's akin to (apologies for the offensive analogy) having your floor covered in excrement and being concerned by just one grain of rice that fell on it. Either IjeBos misrepresented the reason for his ban, or there's more to the story. There definitely seems to be some sort of bias here; the question is which type. Let's call a spade a spade.

What troubles me further is that Bemeruca is evidently Benalvino3 and continues to post here. It seems everyone, including the moderators, is aware of this. How is it possible that despite using an embedded link to potentially phish for users' IP addresses and admitting to such behavior in the past, along with other things like admitting to identifying users' web browsers and phone numbers, Bemeruca and all his other known aliases have not faced even a temporary vacation? It's deeply disturbing that the moderators appear either unable or unwilling to safeguard the safety of users on this platform.

If the moderators are unwilling to moderate effectively, it might be better to leave the platform unmoderated so that users are aware of the risks they're facing. However, I've seen enough. Best of luck.

Edit: To top it off, it appears Nairaland won't even allow me to deactivate my account

DahighLife is Ijebos telling Budaatum how Ijebos who is dahighlife is not wrong grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 10:08pm On Mar 18
basilico:


The know exactly what Trump meant. Sadly, America has tens of low IQ retarded voters who believe the media spin.
The media's job is to make Trump look bad.

This disgusting maga cultist.
YOU HAVE NO SHAME.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:27pm On Mar 18
DaHighLife:

IjeBos takes a more high-minded and idealistic approach to this, but he's not necessarily wrong. The implementation of the moderation policy seems inconsistent and capricious.
And I agreed with Ijebos that the implementation of the moderation policy is inconsistent and capricious, and I gave an example of me reporting a person who called him an "n" without getting banned and he getting banned for calling someone an idiot, and myself getting banned for bullying a bully.

But I guess I'm not idealistic like he is, since I can not deny what is actually real.

DaHighLife:
I'm at a loss to explain how a moderator would intervene in this thread solely to address one person's use of the word "idiot" while disregarding others' use of the same term and even harsher language, including tribal slurs.
Don't be at a loss. We have found that Tinubu supporting mods would ban Obi supporters and vice versa. So yes, bias here is undeniable.

DaHighLife:
What troubles me further is that Bemeruca is evidently Benalvino3 and continues to post here. It seems everyone, including the moderators, is aware of this. How is it possible that despite using an embedded link to potentially phish for users' IP addresses and admitting to such behavior in the past, along with other things like admitting to identifying users' web browsers and phone numbers, Bemeruca and all his other known aliases have not faced even a temporary vacation? It's deeply disturbing that the moderators appear either unable or unwilling to safeguard the safety of users on this platform.
Its a sad fact about this place that some have multiple monickers and don't mind losing them, unlike some who stick to one monicker because their reputation matters to them.

It's also a fact that some users here are far more knowledgeable than the mods whom they can very easily outsmart.

DaHighLife:
If the moderators are unwilling to moderate effectively, it might be better to leave the platform unmoderated so that users are aware of the risks they're facing.
The mods are tired of playing whackamole because they can't win, which is the reason I pleaded with Ijebos, and you I think, not to bother stooping to maga level unless you don't mind getting magadirty.

There's after all a vast audience reading your comments and learning from your posts even if the maga you are responding to isn't.

DaHighLife:
However, I've seen enough. Best of luck.
Edit: To top it off, it appears Nairaland won't even allow me to deactivate my account
Lol that you are not allowed to leave, lol.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by MentalCase98: 10:35pm On Mar 18
budaatum:


Lol that you are not allowed to leave, lol.

No nairaland member that has participated in this thread is deactivating their account anytime soon. The reasons why would be made clear in due course.

God knows, I don’t 🤷🏿‍♂️
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 10:36pm On Mar 18
DaHighLifeLGBTQ+IPOB:


What troubles me further is that Bemeruca is evidently Benalvino3 and continues to post here. It seems everyone, including the moderators,

You can't stop talking about me right? I remembered when all this first started, it took me a while before i started giving you what you were asking for. You want to close all your accounts.

Ijebos remember when I was asking you "How long before you run away from this DaHighLife" grin
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 10:44pm On Mar 18
MentalCase98:


No nairaland member that has participated in this thread is deactivating their account anytime soon. The reasons why would be made clear in due course.

God knows, I don’t 🤷🏿‍♂️

So Ijebosb got banned yesterday for being too moody grin
today he wants to surrender his final Moniker. hahahaha

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by MentalCase98: 10:47pm On Mar 18
bemeruca:


So Ijebosb got banned yesterday for being too moody grin
today he wants to surrender his final Moniker. hahahaha

Lol. Child’s play.

If he leaves then it’s for the better of the discourse on this thread.

From now henceforth let everyone feel free to proclaim their political views without fear of being viciously attacked, bullied and doxxed by a bunch of illiterate savages who can’t stand to hear a different opinion.

That is the true spirit of democracy!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 12:07am On Mar 19
Trump is unable to post Bond. Nobody wants to touch the Man child even with a long spoon. grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by MentalCase98: 12:28am On Mar 19
Lol Elon is on fire on X today.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:27am On Mar 19
I'm made to understand that some people have to be warned when it's satire.


Judge McAfee rules that only one potential liar can prosecute the case – but not both potential liars. Instead of curing the “appearance of impropriety”, it allows it to continue. If Nathan Wade goes, why can Fani Willis stay? McAfee doesn’t give an answer.”

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:21am On Mar 19
Obrigardo

Trump threatens violence on election day.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:34am On Mar 19
basilico:
Obrigardo

Trump threatens violence on election day.

Babylon bee is comedy for rigid unfunny maga idiots.

Who in his right mind thinks criminal trump will win in a landslide, if not the far-from-reality deranged maga cult?

Yeah, criminal trump will win in a landslide, that's why he is negotiating with another criminal, paul manafort to come back into his campaign.
And he can't even raise a billion dollars to pay for his fraudulent crimes.

Get a grip, mr maga cultist.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:35am On Mar 19
MentalCase98:
Lol Elon is on fire on X today.

Biden had also promised s bloodbath years earlier. Blood is not always red.

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