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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 12:13pm On Mar 19
icjunior:



Yeah,the world is moved onto hybrid everything.
But then hybrid inverters are more expensive ain't they?
World didn't move bro.
The way we talked about lithium here u will think the product is everywhere. Large users are still stuck with lead acid e.g tubular. Cc in the market are mostly configured for lead acids. Not to mention Alaba guys wey never here lithium sef.

So let each person enjoy their world.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 12:17pm On Mar 19
easyyoke:
Can anybody please reccomend a good 48v inverter with capacity less than 1500w output please. My total load is 350w, 400w so all this 3500W, 5000w inverter is just not it for me. Currently using 12v but I want to move to a bigger 5.12kwh battery but if I stay on 12v with this kind of battery size, I will end up spending too much money on wiring as well as charge controller. Lets not even talk of the heat generated from needing 80A to 100A to charge a 400ah 5.12kwh Lifepo4 battery in 5hours if it was 12v compared to just 20A I will need on 48v for the same battery capacity. So anybody with any good recommendation please. 48v inverter. Less than 1500w(1.5kva). Or even 1000w sef. A good and well known brand please.

THERE IS 2KW 12V HYBRID WITH INBUILT 80AMPS CC..CAN ALSO GRID CHARGE AT 60AMPS
24v 3kw hybrid with same specs.
both are high voltage hybrids.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by swagifted(m): 1:05pm On Mar 19
30 days of rainfall expected in june in Abuja. no be small thing for solar.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Obnoxious2001(m): 1:25pm On Mar 19
My only contribution on this hybrid matter is ,
If your hybrid inverter spoil, bring am make I use am Dey learn work grin grin grin.

Am actually serious grin

5yrs from now we will cash out massively because the massive adoption of hybrid most especially HF dey amaze me.

I personally prefer transformer based (torrodial core) hybrid inverter.

But you see those chopper transformer, nothing concern me with them, some of their design are funny
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 1:58pm On Mar 19
12v 1600w pure sine wave sachet inverter available @67k
12v/24v pure sine wave sachet inverter 90k
24v 280ah 7168kwh lifepo4 lithium battery available @1.450m
brand new 50ah lifepo4 lithium battery cells available
48v 6.2kw hybrid inverter @500k
Brand new 280ah Lifepo4 Lithium battery cells now available very big discounts on quantity. all are capacity tested and above 290ah each,with test results on the body, comes with complete busbars, expoxy boards for perfect couplings and screws. big discounts on all battery cells!

can sell as 4pcs,8pcs, 12pcs, 16pcs, and above, large quantity available!

whatsapp 08020574628 or telegram@vvalto

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by easyyoke: 2:40pm On Mar 19
brightk:
u just won take overdose .. wetin u de find big battery 4 with ur small load...u nor even see 24v 2 move 2 assuming its critical..na 48v all yonder

Lol. Moving to a 5.12kwh battery with a 350w load will give me just 14hours use. So that is not even big big if you consider the days when there will be rain and there won’t be sun to charge. But charging a 5.12kwh with a 12v system in 5hours will require almost 80amps as opposed to just 20amps if I am with a 48v battery. I consider 80amps really large(more wire cost, heat and many other headache with handling high amps). Hope that helps you understand my dilemma now
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by easyyoke: 2:57pm On Mar 19
Kendzyma:

Thanks, it means it will significantly increase my electricity bills right?

432watt cannot significantly increase your electricity bill as compared to using an A.C. Let me teach you how to calculate your electricity bill.
When you consume 1 unit of electricity, it means you have consumed 1kwh.

If you use 432watt in 1hour, you consumed 432wh. If you convert 432wh to kwh, it will be 0.432kwh. So if you charge your system for say, 5hours, that is 432watt x 5 = 2160wh. If you convert it to kWh, that is 2.16kwh. Meaning if you charge your battery with 432watt for 5hours daily, you have consumed 2.1unit of PHCN electricity.

Now in sharp contrast, lets look at an A.C. Those are quite power consuming. An average 1.5HP AC consumes about 1125w. And there are ACs that are even bigger than that. But lets just use 1.5HP. So if 1.5HP consumes 1125w, it means in 1hour, you have consumed 1.12kwh. Lets assume you put on your AC for 10hours a day. That is 1125w x 10hr= 11250wh. If we convert it to kwh, thar is 11.25kwh. So that means if you put on a 1.5HP AC for 10hours, it will consume 11units😅. And I simply limited it to 10hours. Some people run their AC much longer than that.
So you see that your 432w for charging your battery for 5hours only consumes about 2unit and that is quite small in comparison to 11units that a 1.5Hp AC will consume in 10hours.

Hope this explanation helps.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by easyyoke: 3:04pm On Mar 19
earthrealm:


THERE IS 2KW 12V HYBRID WITH INBUILT 80AMPS CC..CAN ALSO GRID CHARGE AT 60AMPS
24v 3kw hybrid with same specs.
both are high voltage hybrids.
I am looking for 48v sir. Not 12 or 24v. I am also looking for 1500w and below.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Penuelseun(m): 3:14pm On Mar 19
easyyoke:

I am looking for 48v sir. Not 12 or 24v. I am also looking for 1500w and below.
@feflo sells 48v 800w victron standalone inverter, note that it is only inverter without charger
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 3:14pm On Mar 19
Kendzyma:

Thanks, it means it will significantly increase my electricity bills right?

Of course, your Battery and inverter are just like your power bank. you are saving/storing the units in the batteries to use when electricity goes off. If your battery is Full it stops charging and you are only using the units but when the grid fails, your saved units in the batteries give you power.. and the Cycle continues.

Since na you go still use am, you need to pay more than your neighbors.
so when your neighbor is in Darkness you are using the units saved, I hope this help!!

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kristien4(m): 3:49pm On Mar 19
earthrealm:


THERE IS 2KW 12V HYBRID WITH INBUILT 80AMPS CC..CAN ALSO GRID CHARGE AT 60AMPS
24v 3kw hybrid with same specs.
both are high voltage hybrids.
im interested in the 3kw, what brand is it? Whats the spec?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 4:14pm On Mar 19
easyyoke:

I am looking for 48v sir. Not 12 or 24v. I am also looking for 1500w and below.
48v 2000w pure sine wave (1000w continuous power) sachet inverter available @95k, 48v 1600w also available @65k
note: no inbuilt charger.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 4:42pm On Mar 19
Sapiosexuality:
But how often, in your experience, do they break down.


Let's just say the ones I've seen never broke down as care is often taken to do proper wiring and provide protective device and provide a good electrical earthing. With these in place and proper citing of equipment in well ventilated environment, there is no failure yet.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by easyyoke: 5:07pm On Mar 19
Penuelseun:
@feflo sells 48v 800w victron standalone inverter, note that it is only inverter without charger

Please can you help me with the person’s contact! Victron is a trusted brand indeed. Thanks so much
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by easyyoke: 5:11pm On Mar 19
Valto:
48v 2000w pure sine wave (1000w continuous power) sachet inverter available @95k, 48v 1600w also available @65k
note: no inbuilt charger.

What brand is this please?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 5:23pm On Mar 19
jasp12:


@parser @TechGeek777
Pls where can I get this inverter to buy?

Ask @Zeestone99 or @Valto
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 5:25pm On Mar 19
Penuelseun:
@feflo sells 48v 800w victron standalone inverter, note that it is only inverter without charger

Am sure the amount of this will get him 24v 2kw hybrid inverter with high Voc and some change for cables, breakers and surge protectors.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 5:45pm On Mar 19
easyyoke:


432watt cannot significantly increase your electricity bill as compared to using an A.C. Let me teach you how to calculate your electricity bill.
When you consume 1 unit of electricity, it means you have consumed 1kwh.

If you use 432watt in 1hour, you consumed 432wh. If you convert 432wh to kwh, it will be 0.432kwh. So if you charge your system for say, 5hours, that is 432watt x 5 = 2160wh. If you convert it to kWh, that is 2.16kwh. Meaning if you charge your battery with 432watt for 5hours daily, you have consumed 2.1unit of PHCN electricity.

Now in sharp contrast, lets look at an A.C. Those are quite power consuming. An average 1.5HP AC consumes about 1125w. And there are ACs that are even bigger than that. But lets just use 1.5HP. So if 1.5HP consumes 1125w, it means in 1hour, you have consumed 1.12kwh. Lets assume you put on your AC for 10hours a day. That is 1125w x 10hr= 11250wh. If we convert it to kwh, thar is 11.25kwh. So that means if you put on a 1.5HP AC for 10hours, it will consume 11units😅. And I simply limited it to 10hours. Some people run their AC much longer than that.
So you see that your 432w for charging your battery for 5hours only consumes about 2unit and that is quite small in comparison to 11units that a 1.5Hp AC will consume in 10hours.

Hope this explanation helps.

Thanks for the insights

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by jidobaba(m): 6:46pm On Mar 19
Good deal fellas?

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 6:58pm On Mar 19
easyyoke:

I am looking for 48v sir. Not 12 or 24v. I am also looking for 1500w and below.

It will be strange to get a 48v 1.5kw hybrid inverter
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Penuelseun(m): 7:10pm On Mar 19
easyyoke:


Please can you help me with the person’s contact! Victron is a trusted brand indeed. Thanks so much
800va not 800w

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adibo(m): 7:21pm On Mar 19
Good evening house, is mopower a good brand? Will their 1.6kva 12v inverter carry fridge and washing machine (not at the same time though)?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by easyyoke: 8:11pm On Mar 19
Penuelseun:
800va not 800w
You are still correct 800VA and 800Watt still means thesame thing. But Victron inverter for 30K ke? Abi my eyes is not seeing well? 30K for original victron inverter? Ah!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Juokorow(m): 8:27pm On Mar 19
jonescosmos:


I am unapologetically a hybrid fan, till next life, Take it or leave it, standalone systems are gradually becoming obsolete.

Deye and Sunsynk and a few other brands are taking the lead. Their inbuilt MPPT are the best so far, they will suck the juice out of your panels before considering any other source.
The configurable Gen-Port option makes it possible to have your heavy loads turned off and on according to the battery SOC and available energy from the Sun.
Configurable "Time of Use" makes it possible to tell the inverter when to use Grid to charge your battery.
Configurable Protections from unsafe Grid sources are the bomb. For example you can set the inverter to ignore grid if the incoming Ac voltage is not within 200V and 230V. You can also tell it to wait for some time (say 1-5minutes) before accepting grid when "Nepa brings light".

We now have Hybrids with 1000HVDC (High Voltage DC Input) both on battery Input and PV inputs, meaning that they do little or no energy conversion or inversion on the DC circuits. Say you have battery banks of 1000VDC that can charge with 200-1000VDC source, and PV array of 800-1000VDC, so your HV Hybrid Inverter just passes the Voltage to the battery terminals without worrying itself. Blue Carbon has such function where you connect the PV directly to the Battery, Oh yes you heard me right. No external CC or Hybrid required because the MPPT is built into the Battery.
Many of these functions are not yet available on the Voltronic based Inverters.
People should not be discouraged from getting Hybrids, rather you point out the functions and safety features to look out for when considering a Hybrid Inverter.
To Prospective Hybrid users: Do a good Earthing, Get a good Stabilizer is possible, Check out the interesting features of the Hybrid Inverter you are about to buy. If all pans out, go for it.
Truth is, Hybrids are here to stay.
Please let's stop instigating fear into people who are contemplating on startups with smart systems.

“ Get a good Stabilizer…”. Please recommend some makes and models. Thanks.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by isangjohnson: 8:29pm On Mar 19
easyyoke:


432watt cannot significantly increase your electricity bill as compared to using an A.C. Let me teach you how to calculate your electricity bill.
When you consume 1 unit of electricity, it means you have consumed 1kwh.

If you use 432watt in 1hour, you consumed 432wh. If you convert 432wh to kwh, it will be 0.432kwh. So if you charge your system for say, 5hours, that is 432watt x 5 = 2160wh. If you convert it to kWh, that is 2.16kwh. Meaning if you charge your battery with 432watt for 5hours daily, you have consumed 2.1unit of PHCN electricity.

Now in sharp contrast, lets look at an A.C. Those are quite power consuming. An average 1.5HP AC consumes about 1125w. And there are ACs that are even bigger than that. But lets just use 1.5HP. So if 1.5HP consumes 1125w, it means in 1hour, you have consumed 1.12kwh. Lets assume you put on your AC for 10hours a day. That is 1125w x 10hr= 11250wh. If we convert it to kwh, thar is 11.25kwh. So that means if you put on a 1.5HP AC for 10hours, it will consume 11units😅. And I simply limited it to 10hours. Some people run their AC much longer than that.
So you see that your 432w for charging your battery for 5hours only consumes about 2unit and that is quite small in comparison to 11units that a 1.5Hp AC will consume in 10hours.

Hope this explanation helps.
This analysis is applicable to those who want to freeze their rooms with 16°C temperature.
My parlor AC is 1.5hp consumed 1.2kw and I used it mostly during the day at 20°C.
My room AC is 1hp consumed 1kw and I used it mostly at night with the temperature range of 26°C to 28°C consuming 500w max and I still woke up to see 50 60% of my battery left.
We know how to manage RE.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by easyyoke: 8:30pm On Mar 19
TechGeek777:


Am sure the amount of this will get him 24v 2kw hybrid inverter with high Voc and some change for cables, breakers and surge protectors.

While this is correct, there are other things at play that is much greater than the issue of upfront cost.

Like I said earlier, my load is just 350W. Buying an inverter greater than 1000w is a waste of inverter efficiency. Inverters waste a lot of power when they are not at full load or close to full load. So running a 350w load on a 2000w is a total waste of effeciency.

Also the bigger an inverter, the more the idle power consumption of the inverter. Why should I have a 350w load and only my inverter is already consuming 50w😃.

Another factor at play, my battery will be an EG-4 5.12kw LIFEPO4 battery(51.2v, 100ah). I can charge it to full charge in 2 and half hours with just 40Amps or 20Amps if I want to wait for 5hours. This same capacity of battery will require 80Amps at 24v if I want to fast charge it in 2hours. 80A will even be too much for the battery. Asides the amount of heat 80A current will carry. 40A will work in 5hours but the inverter efficiency will be a problem but I get you sha. Thanks boss
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by isangjohnson: 8:33pm On Mar 19
ojeysky:


It will be strange to get a 48v 1.5kw hybrid inverter
Very hard to find such in Naija.
Two months ago, I was searching everywhere for 12v 2.5kva to 3kva hybrid inverter and I couldn't find it. At last, I bought it from China.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by easyyoke: 8:37pm On Mar 19
isangjohnson:

This analysis is applicable to those who want to freeze their rooms with 16°C temperature.
My parlor AC is 1.5hp consumed 1.2kw and I used it mostly during the day at 20°C.
My room AC is 1hp consumed 1kw and I used it mostly at night with the temperature range of 26°C to 28°C consuming 500w max and I still woke up to see 50 60% of my battery left.
We know how to manage RE.

The write up is for normal cold AC use sir. Not for “let me conserve power and put it to 28degree” kind of use sir.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by easyyoke: 8:39pm On Mar 19
isangjohnson:

Very hard to find such in Naija.
Two months ago, I was searching everywhere for 12v 2.5kva to 3kva hybrid inverter and I couldn't find it. At last, I bought it from China.

Just what I thought. Importing Victron from the UK seem like the only option at the moment. They seem to be the only reputable brand with a 48V inverter less than 1000w power even though it is quite expensive. I dont want to buy from Aliexpress. I fear these faceless Chinese guys🥲
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 9:45pm On Mar 19
isangjohnson:

This analysis is applicable to those who want to freeze their rooms with 16°C temperature.
My parlor AC is 1.5hp consumed 1.2kw and I used it mostly during the day at 20°C.
My room AC is 1hp consumed 1kw and I used it mostly at night with the temperature range of 26°C to 28°C consuming 500w max and I still woke up to see 50 60% of my battery left.
We know how to manage RE.

What is your battery size?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by isangjohnson: 3:00am On Mar 20
mctfopt:


What is your battery size?
15kwh
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 5:23am On Mar 20
isangjohnson:

15kwh

Wow, that's big.

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