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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Steep(m): 12:01pm On Mar 21 |
Emusan:No, I am not excusing it, actually they really do not know what they were doing. That is why Jesus prayed saying his father should forgive them because they don't know what they were doing. Paul also said the Jewish nation were blinded, and also had they knew hey won't have crucified the Lord. Their blindness is from Moses law written for them, they were not truly keeping the law as they ought to, hence became blinded by false righteousness they thought they had. |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 12:10pm On Mar 21 |
Emusan:Lol 😆.....e be like say you and Mr Steep go soon fight. Because the two of una wan confuse me. So if Jesus was not the Almighty God on earth but was the Almighty God in heaven, How come he said in John 5:19 that he cannot do anything except the one that he sees his father doing? |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 12:12pm On Mar 21 |
Steep:Since he limited himself to his humanity, why do you still claim that he was the Almighty God while on earth? Someone that told you that the father was greater than him and that he does not know the hour of Judgement. |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 12:12pm On Mar 21 |
Steep: That's not what my post meant I meant, they know every accusations brought against Jesus even the scriptures they used. Paul also said the Jewish nation were blinded, and also had they knew hey won't have crucified the Lord. As clarified above, I guess you understand my point now. Of course they don't know their actions is leading to the fulfillment of God's plan even when it is written in the scriptures they are using against Jesus. |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 12:14pm On Mar 21 |
Emusan:Na English dey confuse you.....do you agree that the father and son are separate persons? That is my question. |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 12:19pm On Mar 21 |
Michael547: You can only see the fight within your brain. Phil 2:7 answered your question "Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form" |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 12:21pm On Mar 21 |
Michael547: That's not your question, stop lying. Person is different from God And you even used GODS(plural), it's evident you're the one who lack simple comprehension in English. They are SEPARATE person. So what is your point? |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 12:21pm On Mar 21 |
Emusan:So did Jesus make that decision himself or he was told to do so by the Father in heaven? |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 12:23pm On Mar 21 |
Michael547: Your lack of simple comprehension is second to none. Read the verse I provided again. |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 12:24pm On Mar 21 |
Emusan:Ok oo.....if the father is separate from the son son in heaven, How come we only have GOD the Father, and not God the son and God the holy spirit in heaven? I thought the Trinity teaches that these three combine to even form the word 'GOD'. |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 12:25pm On Mar 21 |
Michael547: Where did you read this from? Provide the source before we continue. How come we only have GOD the Father, and not God the son and God the holy spirit in heaven? |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by capnies: 12:26pm On Mar 21 |
WritingDavid1: JESUS IS NOT GOD. JESUS WAS CREATED PROVERBS 8:22-26 1 CORINTHIANS 11:3 SAYS THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD. 1 TIMOTHY 2:5 SAYS FOR THERE'S ONLY ONE GOD AND ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GID AND MEN; THE MAN JESUS CHRIST 1 CORINTHIANS 15:27-28 GNB 27For the scripture says, “God put all things under his feet.” It is clear, of course, that the words “all things” do not include God himself, who puts all things under Christ. 28But when all things have been placed under Christ's rule, then he himself, the Son, will place himself under God, who placed all things under him; and God will rule completely over all. 1 CORINTHIANS 15:27-28 KJV For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all. ALSO NOTE THAT GOD CANNOT PRAY, YOU CAN ONLY PRAY TO YOUR SUPERIOR. YOU CANNOT SEND YOURSELF ON AN ERRAND - the sender is always greater than the sendee |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by capnies: 12:27pm On Mar 21 |
Steep: TRINITY IS DEVILS DOCTRINE. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD. |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 12:28pm On Mar 21 |
Emusan:😆 So Jesus was lying in John 12:49 and John 3:16 that the Father sent him to the earth to die abi? So it was actually his decision? OK now I understand. Jesus was a liar according to you. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:29pm On Mar 21 |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:30pm On Mar 21 |
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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 12:32pm On Mar 21 |
Michael547: Is that what you read and understand from that verse? |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 12:32pm On Mar 21 |
Emusan:
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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 12:33pm On Mar 21 |
Emusan:Oya explain |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by capnies: 12:33pm On Mar 21 |
Michael547: They are NOT equal Read 1 Corinthians 11;3 it says God is the head of Christ. Read your Bible, don't listen to false doctrines flying everywhere |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 12:35pm On Mar 21 |
Michael547: Very pathetic See the person I've been dialogue with since. So where did "...in heaven" appear in my post? |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 12:36pm On Mar 21 |
Michael547: Here is the verse again and tell me how you came up with your question. "Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form" |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by capnies: 12:36pm On Mar 21 |
Michael547: THANK YOU FOR YOUR WISDOM. GOD CREATED JESUS READ PROVERB 8:22-26 GOD IS HIGHER THAN JESUS READ 1 CORINTHIANS 11:3 IT SAYS THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 12:41pm On Mar 21 |
Emusan:Oga you have claimed that the father and son is equal. And that the father is greater than the son in rank when the son came to the earth. You have also claimed that the son on earth was not the Almighty God. Now if the son is equal the father while he was in heaven, why does John 3:16 and John 12:49 say that the he was sent to do the things on earth which he did. On what authority did the father send him if they were equals in heaven? |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 12:43pm On Mar 21 |
capnies:Don't mind these confused Trinitarians trying to confuse me. They are nit even in agreement on the subject both mr Emusan and Mr Steep. The two of them are just contradicting themselves. |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by capnies: 12:43pm On Mar 21 |
Michael547: THE NAME OF THE FATHER IS JEHOVAH Read Psalms 83:18 KJV IT SAYS That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, Art the Most High over all the earth THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT A PERSONALITY SO HAS NO NAME The Holy Spirit is the power or energy of God that He uses to do all things. The spirit has no shape so can appear as bird, fire, water wind etc |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 12:43pm On Mar 21 |
Michael547: Block head! Did I say Jesus ONLY BECAME A SON on Earth? What does this tell you? |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 12:45pm On Mar 21 |
Emusan:You must be very daft.....is the below screenshot not the reason you said that the father was greater in rank than the son? So how did Jesus became a son in heaven?
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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 12:46pm On Mar 21 |
Michael547: Block head that didn't answer my question. Did I say Jesus became a Son on earth or not? What does that tell you? |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by capnies: 12:47pm On Mar 21 |
Steep: NO NO NO READ 1 TIMOTHY 2:5 There is only one God and one mediator between God and Men; the man JESUS CHRIST. JESUS IS NOT GOD HE WAS CREATED |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 12:50pm On Mar 21 |
Emusan:You said Jesus became a son on earth. That is why you agree that the Father has a greater rank. So before Jesus came to the earth, how did the father have a greater rank? If the father did not have a greater rank while Jesus was in heaven, why is Jesus given the title 'son' in heaven? |
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by capnies: 12:50pm On Mar 21 |
Michael547: HOLD ON TO YOUR BIBLE KNOWLEDGE AND PLEASE HELP TO TEACH OTHERS. GOD WILL REWARD YOU WITH ETERNAL LIFE |
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