Karlifate:
Dear [young] men,

The mistake a lot of young men do is; spending money unnecessarily.

They spend money to impress friends, girls or anyone around them.

At a young age, you need to be investing in yourself, learning new skills, investing in the skill, taking all the risks.

So you should try to live below your means, make sure you have a skill that’s producing money regularly & also make sure you have some passive income.

If you’ve done that, then you can start flexing. 😎

But when that man that has made the money starts flexing and spending on women money that is chicken change to him, broke boys like you will call him simp. Better make up your mind!

What are some of these women feeling like...
Simps are disgraceful!!

luminouz:

Have your own teeth part took me out...

bro was just giving them a taste of their medicine

Rillycool:
What are some of these women feeling like...
Simps are disgraceful!!

Don't really blame her. At least be creative. Post something she will hate. Just a story she does not like.
Something like Einstein theory of relativity and a film on it or a bob marley song on one love.
At least that is different even if she hates it. By the way I'm kind of nerdish so I can post that.
Simps are not themselves around women. Just be yourself and say what is on your mind

Oshokhai69:


Women dey throw themselves at you but you dey here steady dey hate on them. You must think say na bolo full this place sha. Keep dreaming boy!

K!!

Philosopher1979:


Don't really blame her. At least be creative. Post something she will hate. Just a story she does not like.
Something like Einstein theory of relativity and a film on it or a bob marley song on one love.
At least that is different even if she hates it. By the way I'm kind of nerdish so I can post that.
Simps are not themselves around women. Just be yourself and say what is on your mind

The funny thing is this: The two Facebook profiles captured in the screenshot that Rillycool shared are my mutual friends and they are both known to be bitter toxic feminists.

What the Mmiliaku character displayed is typical of the Juggernaut law where not-too-attractive women (who also lack feminine qualities) think too high of themselves in the dating market because of being flooded with too much attention (and simpish messages) from random men on social media platforms, especially simps. All she has ever gotten from me are teasing messages that are not directly complimentary in tone, and she usually replies with laugh emojis. I don't know her in person nor extend our conversations longer as I consider third wave feminists less of humans.

Only a miserable man would react emotionally to being ignored by the worst sub-specie of women - a feminist. I'm glad she kept him where other miserable SIMPs like him are kept - the "indifferent zone" where she uses his childish tantrums to boost her ego and entertain her fellow women.

Philosopher1979:


Don't really blame her. At least be creative. Post something she will hate. Just a story she does not like.
Something like Einstein theory of relativity and a film on it or a bob marley song on one love.
At least that is different even if she hates it. By the way I'm kind of nerdish so I can post that.
Simps are not themselves around women. Just be yourself and say what is on your mind

Exactly. You are totally right brother.

Even Einstein once said,...Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Telling a girl hi, hi, hi for the past 5 years is insanity.

Sometimes, we blame women for their sauciness and attitude but most times we guys are the biggest contributors to that.

I checked a girl's chat(one of girlfriend at that time). She gets lots of messages online. A lot of the messages she got from men were boring, dull, needy and pathetic. All I saw was "Hi" "Hello" "hey", “hey baby" or "you are beautiful," or "wanna Bleep?” or “hey how are you?”, or “Heyyyyyyyyy” or "hi, you look beautiful" or "Hi, Sweetheart, you look sexy" or “Hi, Can I get to know you" ....

I looked at another lady's chat, all I saw literally was "how are you sweetheart, I really need you?" Or "Come and see me please?" Or Worse, some men even randomly sent her photos of their joysticks...

Wow

Anyways...

Philosopher1979, just like you said, "At least be creative."

Being creative when chatting with women doesn't mean you are trying to impress her. It means you are being "different" from all the other simping folks out there and putting yourself on the spotlight.

Everyone is different, and our creativity is what makes us different and this is what finally makes each and every one of us unique from each other.

And your uniqueness attract a woman. And your uniqueness is what attract money to you.

It's safe to say, being creative means showing your uniqueness. For example, an employer isn't looking to employ a person who's just like him in terms of skills and experience, but rather he's looking for a person who has a different and unique value, skills and experience to offer the company.


From the dictionary I just checked for some of the synonyms of creativity, I saw words like, Original, Expressive, Engaging and so on....

Take note of those three words, Original, Expressive and Engaging.

Original:

For example, like you said, telling her "Something like Einstein theory of relativity and a film on it or a bob marley song on one love".

That's actually more Original than telling her hi, hey, hello, hi...because you're putting your real self and uniqueness out there and showing willingness to standout.

She's might not really care for what you're talking about, but she'll be curious and be willing to engage with you to know why you are telling her that.





Expressive:

For example, telling her, "I don't trust most naija girls, but there's something crazy and cute about you that caught my attention."

That's more expressive than telling her "hi, or “Heyyyyyyyyy” or "hello, you are beautiful"

Because you're expressing your mind in a unique way and she'll be intrigued and curious and be willing to engage with you to know why you said that. As they say, "curious kills the cat" or better say, "curiosity wets the pussy..."



ENGAGING:

For example, telling her, "if I tell you the part of your face that makes you more beautiful, you are gonna be surprised."

That's more fun and engaging than telling her "hi, hi, hello"

Because she'll wonder and be curious and be willing to engage with you. As they say, "curious kills the cat" or better say, "curiosity makes the pants drops..."


If you try out those examples, I'm 90 to 99 percent sure that she's gonna respond to your message.

Most times when I chat women up for the first time, they often respond, if nothing else, but out of curiosity... Because my message always appear like an EXPLOSION in their inbox; and in their mind, they be like, "who the hell is this guy?"

I'm gonna STAND OUT immediately in her eyes....

Standing out is risky because you are putting yourself on the spotlight. The spotlight attract both love and hate, both compliment and criticism, both positive and negative reactions.

Only those who are very bold and confident always put themselves on the spotlight.

luminouz:

Real G talk. This happens to me. She was a fine ass woman and I had practically removed everything on her. But for some goddamn reason, I couldn't go ahead with it because She seemed too easy. She wore her clothes back, went out, shook my hand and I knew she ain't ever coming back.


N.B: And I had no condoms...so🙂🙂🙂🙂

You had just one job.

AlphaNugget:
Bullet dodged 🥲

why do you guys like to explain principles... it is stale to me. you did okay until you penultimate last comment. you don't need to explain such principle to her na.

something like- even me dey look for who go give me #50 recharge card. can you help me? i go pay you back when i win my multi million dollar contract.

There’s a girl I flirted with for sometime in on WhatsApp. It’s very funny cause with the way I flirted with her she seem to know if she comes to my place I’m gonna make a move.

This girl pestered me to come my place after posting her for 3 months I finally agreed to let her come.

After coming she was asking me some kinda Mumu questions and all. Maybe sizing me up and all.

Anyway at some point l made a move on her for intimacy she rejected and I did again and she rejected. So we had a conversation and she was saying ehnnn, I know she has a boyfriend and all that. That she isn’t down for FWB and that this is her first time coming here so it’s too early.

That I should follow the proper channel first, she will go home and then think. So that she can know if she is coming to my place “she is going to her guys place and anything can happen” bla bla bla.

I was just listening to her talking. In my head, be like this one dey find marriage and something serious. Cause which one is, I should follow proper channel of asking out when you said you have a boyfriend. Even mentioned say her mama no like the guy cause he no get money and bla bla bla.

I just Dey vex inside like be like this girl think I’m a Mumu man that can be hooked. Anyway she went and I ended all conversation with her since then. I’m not stupid

PinkNature:


You had just one job.

To kick your ass....i won't fail next time, I promise

Adasun:
why do you guys like to explain principles... it is stale to me. you did okay until you penultimate last comment. you don't need to explain such principle to her na.

something like- even me dey look for who go give me #50 recharge card. can you help me? i go pay you back when i win my multi million dollar contract.

You be Agba, I still dey learn.....🙌😩

lajid:
There’s a girl I flirted with for sometime in on WhatsApp. It’s very funny cause with the way I flirted with her she seem to know if she comes to my place I’m gonna make a move.

This girl pestered me to come my place after posting her for 3 months I finally agreed to let her come.

After coming she was asking me some kinda Mumu questions and all. Maybe sizing me up and all.

Anyway at some point l made a move on her for intimacy she rejected and I did again and she rejected. So we had a conversation and she was saying ehnnn, I know she has a boyfriend and all that. That she isn’t down for FWB and that this is her first time coming here so it’s too early.

That I should follow the proper channel first, she will go home and then think. So that she can know if she is coming to my place “she is going to her guys place and anything can happen” bla bla bla.

I was just listening to her talking. In my head, be like this one dey find marriage and something serious. Cause which one is, I should follow proper channel of asking out when you said you have a boyfriend. Even mentioned say her mama no like the guy cause he no get money and bla bla bla.

I just Dey vex inside like be like this girl think I’m a Mumu man that can be hooked. Anyway she went and I ended all conversation with her since then. I’m not stupid

You were pussy focused.

The moment a girl is certain you just want her pussy, she'll begin playing games.

You must act as if her pussy is worthless.
How do you show her pussy is worthless? - The amount of attention you give her will determine that.

If you give her too much attention - Her pussy is gold to you

If you give her less attention - Her pussy is worthless

That's how women think.

If she's into you, she'll use her only weapon (pussy) to try and persuade you.
In so doing, she'll want to use it to prove to you that it's worth something.

A simple reverse psychology trick.

Use it well.

Smartb0y:


You were pussy focused.

The moment a girl is certain you just want her pussy, she'll begin playing games.

You must act as if her pussy is worthless.
How do you show her pussy is worthless? - The amount of attention you give her will determine that.

If you give her too much attention - Her pussy is gold to you

If you give her less attention - Her pussy is worthless

That's how women think.

If she's into you, she'll use her only weapon (pussy) to try and persuade you.
In so doing, she'll want to use it to prove to you that it's worth something.

A simple reverse psychology trick.

Use it well.

Hmmm nice one. I guess the mistake I made cause she mentioned that she knows I just want to Bleep only. If I had acted like I didn’t want that probably she will have used sex to convince me lol.

Lesson learnt

Please brothers i have this girl i have been treating bad eversince, today she wanted to come for my moms birthday and i told her to stay back not knowing she was already coming and rain was falling now she said i should never call or text her again, and i actaually want to do things with her please advise because i have been silent sinc e and i dont want to beg her not to look ike a simp.

Pukkalolo:


Exactly. You are totally right brother.

Even Einstein once said,...Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Telling a girl hi, hi, hi for the past 5 years is insanity.

Sometimes, we blame women for their sauciness and attitude but most times we guys are the biggest contributors to that.

I checked a girl's chat(one of girlfriend at that time). She gets lots of messages online. A lot of the messages she got from men were boring, dull, needy and pathetic. All I saw was "Hi" "Hello" "hey", “hey baby" or "you are beautiful," or "wanna Bleep?” or “hey how are you?”, or “Heyyyyyyyyy” or "hi, you look beautiful" or "Hi, Sweetheart, you look sexy" or “Hi, Can I get to know you" ....

I looked at another lady's chat, all I saw literally was "how are you sweetheart, I really need you?" Or "Come and see me please?" Or Worse, some men even randomly sent her photos of their joysticks...

Wow

Anyways...

Philosopher1979, just like you said, "At least be creative."

Being creative when chatting with women doesn't mean you are trying to impress her. It means you are being "different" from all the other simping folks out there and putting yourself on the spotlight.

Everyone is different, and our creativity is what makes us different and this is what finally makes each and every one of us unique from each other.

And your uniqueness attract a woman. And your uniqueness is what attract money to you.

It's safe to say, being creative means showing your uniqueness. For example, an employer isn't looking to employ a person who's just like him in terms of skills and experience, but rather he's looking for a person who has a different and unique value, skills and experience to offer the company.


From the dictionary I just checked for some of the synonyms of creativity, I saw words like, Original, Expressive, Engaging and so on....

Take note of those three words, Original, Expressive and Engaging.

Original:

For example, like you said, telling her "Something like Einstein theory of relativity and a film on it or a bob marley song on one love".

That's actually more Original than telling her hi, hey, hello, hi...because you're putting your real self and uniqueness out there and showing willingness to standout.

She's might not really care for what you're talking about, but she'll be curious and be willing to engage with you to know why you are telling her that.





Expressive:

For example, telling her, "I don't trust most naija girls, but there's something crazy and cute about you that caught my attention."

That's more expressive than telling her "hi, or “Heyyyyyyyyy” or "hello, you are beautiful"

Because you're expressing your mind in a unique way and she'll be intrigued and curious and be willing to engage with you to know why you said that. As they say, "curious kills the cat" or better say, "curiosity wets the pussy..."



ENGAGING:

For example, telling her, "if I tell you the part of your face that makes you more beautiful, you are gonna be surprised."

That's more fun and engaging than telling her "hi, hi, hello"

Because she'll wonder and be curious and be willing to engage with you. As they say, "curious kills the cat" or better say, "curiosity makes the pants drops..."


If you try out those examples, I'm 90 to 99 percent sure that she's gonna respond to your message.

Most times when I chat women up for the first time, they often respond, if nothing else, but out of curiosity... Because my message always appear like an EXPLOSION in their inbox; and in their mind, they be like, "who the hell is this guy?"

I'm gonna STAND OUT immediately in her eyes....

Standing out is risky because you are putting yourself on the spotlight. The spotlight attract both love and hate, both compliment and criticism, both positive and negative reactions.

Only those who are very bold and confident always put themselves on the spotlight.

This is da bomb!

DEROX:
Please brothers i have this girl i have been treating bad eversince, today she wanted to come for my moms birthday and i told her to stay back not knowing she was already coming and rain was falling now she said i should never call or text her again, and i actaually want to do things with her please advise because i have been silent sinc e and i dont want to beg her not to look ike a simp.

How old are you?

Smartb0y:


You were pussy focused.

The moment a girl is certain you just want her pussy, she'll begin playing games.

You must act as if her pussy is worthless.
How do you show her pussy is worthless? - The amount of attention you give her will determine that.

If you give her too much attention - Her pussy is gold to you

If you give her less attention - Her pussy is worthless

That's how women think.

If she's into you, she'll use her only weapon (pussy) to try and persuade you.
In so doing, she'll want to use it to prove to you that it's worth something.

A simple reverse psychology trick.

Use it well.

Wow! You said the exact way I'd say it.
Saying you're smart is an understatement.

If all guys think like this, a thread like this won't even exist--because women would be less entitled and less egotistical, and be more humble, respectful and submissive...

Pukkalolo:


Exactly. You are totally right brother.

Even Einstein once said,...Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Telling a girl hi, hi, hi for the past 5 years is insanity.

Sometimes, we blame women for their sauciness and attitude but most times we guys are the biggest contributors to that.

I checked a girl's chat(one of girlfriend at that time). She gets lots of messages online. A lot of the messages she got from men were boring, dull, needy and pathetic. All I saw was "Hi" "Hello" "hey", “hey baby" or "you are beautiful," or "wanna Bleep?” or “hey how are you?”, or “Heyyyyyyyyy” or "hi, you look beautiful" or "Hi, Sweetheart, you look sexy" or “Hi, Can I get to know you" ....

I looked at another lady's chat, all I saw literally was "how are you sweetheart, I really need you?" Or "Come and see me please?" Or Worse, some men even randomly sent her photos of their joysticks...

Wow

Anyways...

Philosopher1979, just like you said, "At least be creative."

Being creative when chatting with women doesn't mean you are trying to impress her. It means you are being "different" from all the other simping folks out there and putting yourself on the spotlight.

Everyone is different, and our creativity is what makes us different and this is what finally makes each and every one of us unique from each other.

And your uniqueness attract a woman. And your uniqueness is what attract money to you.

It's safe to say, being creative means showing your uniqueness. For example, an employer isn't looking to employ a person who's just like him in terms of skills and experience, but rather he's looking for a person who has a different and unique value, skills and experience to offer the company.


From the dictionary I just checked for some of the synonyms of creativity, I saw words like, Original, Expressive, Engaging and so on....

Take note of those three words, Original, Expressive and Engaging.

Original:

For example, like you said, telling her "Something like Einstein theory of relativity and a film on it or a bob marley song on one love".

That's actually more Original than telling her hi, hey, hello, hi...because you're putting your real self and uniqueness out there and showing willingness to standout.

She's might not really care for what you're talking about, but she'll be curious and be willing to engage with you to know why you are telling her that.





Expressive:

For example, telling her, "I don't trust most naija girls, but there's something crazy and cute about you that caught my attention."

That's more expressive than telling her "hi, or “Heyyyyyyyyy” or "hello, you are beautiful"

Because you're expressing your mind in a unique way and she'll be intrigued and curious and be willing to engage with you to know why you said that. As they say, "curious kills the cat" or better say, "curiosity wets the pussy..."



ENGAGING:

For example, telling her, "if I tell you the part of your face that makes you more beautiful, you are gonna be surprised."

That's more fun and engaging than telling her "hi, hi, hello"

Because she'll wonder and be curious and be willing to engage with you. As they say, "curious kills the cat" or better say, "curiosity makes the pants drops..."


If you try out those examples, I'm 90 to 99 percent sure that she's gonna respond to your message.

Most times when I chat women up for the first time, they often respond, if nothing else, but out of curiosity... Because my message always appear like an EXPLOSION in their inbox; and in their mind, they be like, "who the hell is this guy?"

I'm gonna STAND OUT immediately in her eyes....

Standing out is risky because you are putting yourself on the spotlight. The spotlight attract both love and hate, both compliment and criticism, both positive and negative reactions.

Only those who are very bold and confident always put themselves on the spotlight.

If you want to start conversations with lady or anybody which you don't know from adam, "won't you say "hi" first? "Oh! You will just start your "creative or whatever" directly without any form of introduction!
Is that not a bigger insanity?


In as much as I don't see reason why guys should be disturbing ladies endlessly online, crappy you narrated up there is for a clown or immature lads.

I won't be surprised if u re still under 22yrs.

See, lady that would flow with you will flow and the one that would ignore will ignore, it has nothing to do with any formulas.

BELOW IS SCREEN SHOT OF WHAT A LADY WROTE ON ONE DATING SITE

Good morning kings.

I'm met a new girl. We started talking, she didn't give me the stress typically of Nigerian girls. She responds to text and calls well and also calls to check me up.

Normally, I would have gone for the normal route and get sex and we'll all be cool. But my guy advised I don't do that, that I should make her my woman.

All my life, I've been single. I've never been in a real relationship, so I had took this decision to make things different with her.

She feels me, just like I feel her. But after I started the relationship idea, her response and vibes is that she doesn't wants to hurt me.

Because I'm going to fall so hard for her, and I'll get my heart broken. Personally, I'm this kind of guy that doesn't really give AF about getting my heart broken. The possibility of a woman breaking my heart is almost zero.

We've shared a kiss, I've caressed her, but no sex yet. All I wanted was a woman of my own.. because it isn't normal for a guy of 23, not to have tried a relationship for once.

Highlights: 1. it's almost impossible to get my heart broken.

2. I want her to be my girl (I'm tired of playing a hard guy bullcrap)

3. I wanna smash this babe. Haven't had sex in months. (It almost happened, but she stopped half way, telling me I'm rushing things.

4. After sex, the probability that I'll still have the urge to be in a relationship with her, is almost zero too.

5. I bleeped up bringing the relationship crap. (My friend adviced me to get a woman and stick with her) Which I actually wanted but things isn't going as planned.

6. I've decided not to call and text her for the next 3 days.

7. Please how do I fix this? It's 3 weeks since we started talking and no sex yet.

Rizzputin, pukkalolo

I need advice. Thank you kings.

eclatante:
Good morning kings.

I'm met a new girl. We started talking, she didn't give me the stress typically of Nigerian girls. She responds to text and calls well and also calls to check me up.

Normally, I would have gone for the normal route and get sex and we'll all be cool. But my guy advised I don't do that, that I should make her my woman.

All my life, I've been single. I've never been in a real relationship, so I had took this decision to make things different with her.

She feels me, just like I feel her. But after I started the relationship idea, her response and vibes is that she doesn't wants to hurt me.

[b]Because I'm going to fall so hard for her, and I'll get my heart broken. [/b]Personally, I'm this kind of guy that doesn't really give AF about getting my heart broken. The possibility of a woman breaking my heart is almost zero.

We've shared a kiss, I've caressed her, but no sex yet. All I wanted was a woman of my own.. because it isn't normal for a guy of 23, not to have tried a relationship for once.

Highlights: 1. it's almost impossible to get my heart broken.

2. I want her to be my girl (I'm tired of playing a hard guy bullcrap)

3. I wanna smash this babe. Haven't had sex in months. (It almost happened, but she stopped half way, telling me I'm rushing things.

4. After sex, the probability that I'll still have the urge to be in a relationship with her, is almost zero too.

5. I bleeped up bringing the relationship crap. (My friend adviced me to get a woman and stick with her) Which I actually wanted but things isn't going as planned.

6. I've decided not to call and text her for the next 3 days.

7. Please how do I fix this? It's 3 weeks since we started talking and no sex yet.

Rizzputin, pukkalolo

I need advice. Thank you kings.

... but why will a girl say something like this? Any idea.

lajid:
There’s a girl I flirted with for sometime in on WhatsApp. It’s very funny cause with the way I flirted with her she seem to know if she comes to my place I’m gonna make a move.

This girl pestered me to come my place after posting her for 3 months I finally agreed to let her come.

After coming she was asking me some kinda Mumu questions and all. Maybe sizing me up and all.

Anyway at some point l made a move on her for intimacy she rejected and I did again and she rejected. So we had a conversation and she was saying ehnnn, I know she has a boyfriend and all that. That she isn’t down for FWB and that this is her first time coming here so it’s too early.

That I should follow the proper channel first, she will go home and then think. So that she can know if she is coming to my place “she is going to her guys place and anything can happen” bla bla bla.


I was just listening to her talking. In my head, be like this one dey find marriage and something serious. Cause which one is, I should follow proper channel of asking out when you said you have a boyfriend. Even mentioned say her mama no like the guy cause he no get money and bla bla bla.

I just Dey vex inside like be like this girl think I’m a Mumu man that can be hooked. Anyway she went and I ended all conversation with her since then. I’m not stupid

I like this your story. Because it reminded me of what I said few days about being a hook up material

Showing desire but not desperation.

The mistakes you made were several. Not just one. But of course, you can still fúck her since you didn't chase her or act needy( I also hope you didn't react angrily too). If you eventually decide that putting your díck inside her is your next plan, then read on (Especially the ending)

Before we begin, I want to make two things abundantly clear: 1, she's a bad and naughty girl. She's definitely fùvking more than one guy. 2, She has no boyfriend. If she does, she's not serious about him at all.


Now, let's dive in... I'll quote part of your post (in italics) then reply to each on

● "There’s a girl I flirted with for sometime in on WhatsApp. It’s very funny cause with the way I flirted with her she seem to know if she comes to my place I’m gonna make a move.

This girl pestered me to come my place after posting her for 3 months I finally agreed to let her come."

I've noticed this new trend among guys. When guys begin game newly or have a few But not remarkable success, they try SO HARD not to look like a simp.

A common thing you guys do is to wait or delay. Some guys have even advocated not inviting a girl over until she asks. Lol.

Such nonsense. The past year I've had a bunch of girls I've slept with say "I've never done it this fast with anyone" "you're turning me into something I'm not" "I have never experienced this so fast" "I didn't know what entered into my head to do that with you"

At first, I thought it's the usual thing girls say. Now, I'm realising a lot of guys are moving wayyyy too slow. 3 months of posting her? This doesn't help your seduction in any way. You don't look more high value in her eyes by posting a visit

She'll just think maybe you don't like her or you're busy.

Also, it seems like you did heavy flirting. I like that. As I always, it's far better to err on the side of too much desire than very little desire (weakness)

However, I would have kept the flirting light rather than heavy. Then invite her over the first week and bang her.


● "After coming she was asking me some kinda Mumu questions and all. Maybe sizing me up and all."

Ah yes. Of course She'll throw those questions. You weren't expecting them abi.

Well you've gotten her curious. All those your heavy flirting and not inviting her over for 3 months spiked her curiosity in you. She wanted to get closer to you. But you mistook her curiosity for interest in fùcking you. That's why you probably presumed that since she's coming over, she knows what's going to happen about you making moves.

Well, she did. She wanted you to make those moves. And believe me, she was hoping you'd fúck her.

But here's what was going on internally with her: As you built up her curiosity for you in 3 months, it was also enough time for her to get confused. She was probably unsure of the whole thing. Yes, at the back of her mind she thought something could happen (she probably shaved before coming) but she wasn't sure about the whole thing

Confusion is anti-seductive. That's why you waiting that long is a terrible idea. Some girls won't get confused and just remain at curiosity. But most will get confused.

That's why you were hit with "mumu questions" Those were not mumu questions. They were shít test questions.

Because she's both curious and confused about you at the same time, she has to be sure sleeping with you is the right choice. So she has to test you.

And I can already tell from you calling it "mumu questions" and saying she "sized you up" you failed those tests. My guess iss that you felt irritated by the questions.

But they were all shít tests she was hoping you'd blaze through. Also, as a reminder when a girl tests you with questions rather than statements in that scenario, she's more than likely you to fúck you. She's showing her submissiveness and trying not to offend you so you don't back off



● "Anyway at some point l made a move on her for intimacy she rejected and I did again and she rejected. So we had a conversation and she was saying ehnnn, I know she has a boyfriend and all that. That she isn’t down for FWB and that this is her first time coming here so it’s too early."

After making your first big mistake which is failing her test, you could have steered the conversation in a way that will make you pass the tests.

Rather, you proceeded to dig your pit even further.

Your value has already dropped after you failed that test. So you making a move till turn her off and she'll reject you. Because you're making a move from a low value position

Rather you should have built your value up through specific hook up material conversations and topics.

After she rejects you twice... she now has to make the rejection make sense. Of course, with women when a girl makes a move on you or wants to fùck you OR wants to reject you, she will deploy womanese. Womanese is just a word for indirect/subtle display of interest or disinterest with coded meanings.

"I have a boyfriend" is the most common womanese when a girl rejects you so as not to damage your ego

You see, a woman's world feels generally unsafe to her. Angry guys in her dms. Thirsty men who might want to hurt or rapè her. That's why rejection from her is done in a way to massage your ego. You can call it manipulation but such is the game.

"I have a boyfriend" after rejecting your move has nothing to do with her bf or even whether she has or not. Trust me, she has a FWB she's currently fùcking or she is on the hunt for one (and she was hoping it would be you)

Now, she gave you an opening into her game... either because she's amateurish or she really liked you.

This is where she did it: "it's my first time coming and it's too early"

This is womanese.

This is the translation: "I wouldn't mind fùcking you on the first time but you're NOT making me feel comfortable"

This could either mean she doesn't feel safe with you or your value is too low. In your case... it's both.

Once you hear something relating to that next time, take a step back in a calm way... change the topic into something that will build your value and make her feel more comfortable and safe with you.

Girls will never reveal their game to you like that if they don't want to fùck you. Remember that.


● "That I should follow the proper channel first, she will go home and then think. So that she can know if she is coming to my place “she is going to her guys place and anything can happen” bla bla bla."

This should already tell you everything you know. At this point not only has she opened her game for you to see, she has casted it completely

She was probably thinking "since this werey doesn't want to get the point that I want to fúck him, Let me just cast my game maybe he'll understand"

She's telling you that you should ask her out to be her bf so she can fùck you. Right after telling you she has a bf. LMAO

This girl wanted your dìck. And she let you know with the famous womanese of : "anything can happen"

In one of my threads on my profile I talked about how girls don't like anything planned

"It just happened" and "anything can happen" are ways girls use to justify their actions. Trust me they wanted it to happen. But they have to make it look like "it just happened"

Why?

This is the translation of "anything can happen". She's saying: "Lajid, I want to fùck you but you asking me out will make me feel less like a slut. Because after all I'm fùcking my bf and not someone random so I won't feel like a slut"

So what's she's saying is that she wanted to fùck you right there BUT YOU have to do something that won't make her feel like a slùt.

Her suggestion was you asking her out. But there are many other conversations, topics and moves you could have done right there that would have done the job without asking her out. And she was hoping you did it


● "Even mentioned say her mama no like the guy cause he no get money and bla bla bla."

This is just her giving herself an excuse to cheat.

And a way to rope you into asking her out since by now she has given up on the idea that you'll fùck her that day


● "I just Dey vex inside like be like this girl think I’m a Mumu man that can be hooked. Anyway she went and I ended all conversation with her since then. I’m not stupid"


Yup, you clearly felt irritated and angry about her little games and tests. Which turned her off and dropped your value in her eyes.

She didn't see you as a mumu.

Remember this, no girl can see you as a mumu because she really doesn't know much about you.

It is only YOU that can make yourself look like a mumu

She was testing you (like she will do every guy in that situation)

If you had blazed through, your value will skyrocket in her eyes.

So, it's all about how you react

In this life (not just seduction) if you act confident and in charge, people will treat you that way.

Some people might test you like she did. But once you maintain that frame and remain unphased my her games and tests... she will fall into your frame

Remember the golden rule of frame:

The weaker frame will always give way and fall in line to the stronger one.

eclatante:
Good morning kings.

I'm met a new girl. We started talking, she didn't give me the stress typically of Nigerian girls. She responds to text and calls well and also calls to check me up.

Normally, I would have gone for the normal route and get sex and we'll all be cool. But my guy advised I don't do that, that I should make her my woman.

All my life, I've been single. I've never been in a real relationship, so I had took this decision to make things different with her.

She feels me, just like I feel her. But after I started the relationship idea, her response and vibes is that she doesn't wants to hurt me.

Because I'm going to fall so hard for her, and I'll get my heart broken. Personally, I'm this kind of guy that doesn't really give AF about getting my heart broken. The possibility of a woman breaking my heart is almost zero.

We've shared a kiss, I've caressed her, but no sex yet. All I wanted was a woman of my own.. because it isn't normal for a guy of 23, not to have tried a relationship for once.

Highlights: 1. it's almost impossible to get my heart broken.

2. I want her to be my girl (I'm tired of playing a hard guy bullcrap)

3. I wanna smash this babe. Haven't had sex in months. (It almost happened, but she stopped half way, telling me I'm rushing things.

4. After sex, the probability that I'll still have the urge to be in a relationship with her, is almost zero too.

5. I bleeped up bringing the relationship crap. (My friend adviced me to get a woman and stick with her) Which I actually wanted but things isn't going as planned.

6. I've decided not to call and text her for the next 3 days.

7. Please how do I fix this? It's 3 weeks since we started talking and no sex yet.

Rizzputin, pukkalolo

I need advice. Thank you kings.

Most guys will solve a lot of their problems by 1) Never asking a girl out AND 2) Fùcking a girl before dating her.

Your instincts were right. You should have gone the normal route and fùcked her before dating her. That's how it's done.

Anyways, let's dive in once again. I'll quote your post in italics and reply to each one


● "We started talking, she didn't give me the stress typically of Nigerian girls. She responds to text and calls well and also calls to check me up."

Yeah, this is where she hooked you. You're having seducer's oneitis. That feeling when a girl seems so different from others you've been with or come across she starts looking special. So you start treating her way too differently

No girl is special. Remember that. Yes, allow yourself to have those feelings for her. There's nothing wrong in those feelings.

The problem is the actions you do out of those feelings. Which I'll address as you read on.

Also, a girl responding to your calls and texts then calling you back is NOT a hallmark of a special girl. That is a normal thing an experienced seducer has in his life. It is literally the bare minimum

No girl receives any special treatment or consideration because you reply my text or call me. I will only take not of it if you start leaving me 8 missed calls almost every day.

So what I'm saying raise your standards of what different or special means to you. This is your first mistake. Because if ordinary things like this move you, she won't respect you because you're too easy.


● "Normally, I would have gone for the normal route and get sex and we'll all be cool. But my guy advised I don't do that, that I should make her my woman".

Yes your instincts were right. This is what you should have done.

She will now be the one chasing you for a relationship.


● "All my life, I've been single. I've never been in a real relationship, so I had took this decision to make things different with her."


You probably also told her this or hinted at it. How you want things to be different with her because she's different.

Wrong decision. Because she hasn't done anything of note that makes her different.



● "She feels me, just like I feel her. But after I started the relationship idea, her response and vibes is that she doesn't wants to hurt me."

Of course her vibe has changed. She has gotten the ultimate goal of a woman in manipulation mode. Which is to lock down a man into a relationship with, use his resources. And to do it without little to no effort and without sex.

Once she does this, her goal is achieved then she'll manipulate you completely. Dictate rules in the relationship, cheat on you... spend all your money... give you another man's baby. Now, in your case... this girl may not go that far with you. I'll tell you why in this section but before that let me tell you the two modes that exist in every woman.

Now each girl has two modes constantly running inside her

The first is the desire mode. The ultimate goal of this one is to chase a man she likes, confess her feelings to him and then he fùcks her deeply, intensely and passionately. Women love the chase. They like a man that's mysterious and challenging.

The reward she gets by fùcking you is sweeter. The more different and intense the adventures she experiences while chasing you also makes the sèx sweeter.

When you confess your feelings to her or ask her out you Rob her off this experience. You've denied her of her number one fantasy and desire... and she will resent you for it

This is why immediately you Rob her off this desire, the next mode takes over...

Her manipulation mode. Contrary to what red pillers and alpha males would have you believe, this is the weaker of the two.

Girls are not walking about looking to manipulate men. That is why books And movies like 50 shades of grey that explore a woman's deep, sexual desires are popular among women. And these are the things they spend time on the most.

Her desire mode is stronger but the manipulation mode is strong enough to put up a fight. Each time she meets a new guy, the two modes are present.

Whichever mode wins, depends on the girl, the situation, what point she is in her life and the type of man.

So for example if she meets a man that let's her achieve her desire goal, the manipulation mode remains dormant and inactive. It never goes away. Until something wakes it up like maybe the man starts fùcking up terribly.


● "Because I'm going to fall so hard for her, and I'll get my heart broken"

I had to break up the last section because it was getting to long


Now, when a girl tells you "I don't want to hurt you because you'll fall so hard and get heart broken" it's one of two cases depending on when she tells you

Remember I told you that she won't go for with her manipulation with you? The reason is because girls that say these usually have a good conscience OR they genuinely like you.

However, in your situation you're in the bad case.


The first case a girl will tell you this (which is the good one) is when she first initially meets you and you guys are vibing

She'll tease you as a way to test you and say she'll break you heart or she doesn't want to hurt you. This is usually before you've fùcked her AND before you guys are in a relationship.

Mynresponse is just to smile and ignore.


The second case is the bad one. This happens during a deep heart to heart talk, a deep convo OR when she's already in a relationship with you

If you hear "I don't want to hurt you. You'll get heart broken" in any of those situations, you have fùcked up somewhere.

You're the man. You're the seducer. You're the one whose options matter (because she might have but because of you, they wont matter)

She should be worried about getting her heart broken or getting hurt. Not she being worried that you'll get your heart broken . LMAO

What she just said is womanese.

This is the translation: "I like you. You're such a good, nice, sweet guy. And yes, I'll manipulate you / I already manipulated you / I'm currently manipulating you. But I don't want to hurt you too much"

Another translation (which is similar to the first or related): "Im not as good or special as you think I am. You love me way too much already when I haven't done anything worthy. This makes me feel you're easy to manipulate and I don't respect you for it. Since you're this easy to manipulate, I'll just end up hurting you. Cuz you love me too much already over nothing much"



● We've shared a kiss, I've caressed her, but no sex yet

Have you fingèred her or has she given you a blow jób ?

If no, start from there... Though I doubt the blow jób will happen if you haven't done that by now but read on, we can fix it


● it's almost impossible to get my heart broken.

Lol, you're saying this because the girl actually likes you as a person. So she will hold herself back or think twice on certain things

If it was someone who could care less and she's experienced, things would have turned out differently


● "After sex, the probability that I'll still have the urge to be in a relationship with her, is almost zero too"

Why should sex reduce the urge to date her?

Then you're not ready to be in a relationship then. And that's a childish way of thinking

You should fix your internal mindset before reading the first way I'll suggest to fix your situation



● <<<<<< Your Next Moves>>>>



Continue with everything as normal. Don't act angry or disappointed. Once those 3 days has elapsed just call or text depending on how you do your thing in a calm or chill way.

Though my guess is that she'll hit you up before the 3 days reaches.

Vibe with her normally but do NOT over do the caring, romance thing. Key phrase is: DO NOT OVER DO.

Invite her over whenever you feel is convenient.

Now your first choice is this:

Make out with her, caress her and finger her... make her give you blow joob. Make sure you finger her well.

Tell her that making love to your woman (that is fùcking her) is something you enjoy and it deepens your love for her. And it makes it more genuine

Say that while you're doing pre-intimacy. Listen to her objections and take note of them. That is if she resists sex... there's something she'll tell you. Take note of it. Normally, you'll address it there. If you can, do it and she'll end up fùcking you. If you can't, just post what she says here... And I'll reply you what you'll tell her next time or probably if she's still there


The second choice is the longer one...

Of course the shorter one is easier to fùck up. Which is why most people avoid it. But with experience, you'll be able to navigate around it easily

The longer one is typical red pill advice.

You simply act like the sèx is not a big deal like sèx isn't important. Start talking to other girls... in a way she notices it...

You want to increase your value back up. And nothing does that better than she seeing other girls around you. Not too much Tho (like you kissing them or overly hugging them)

This will set her back in chasing mode... you continue acting like sex isn't a big deal then you run your game as you initially intended to do before your friend gave you that useless advice


● To end this, girls chase relationships more because it's an opportunity to lock down a guy

That's why you must never want a relationship more than a girl does Especially if you haven't fùcked her. You just look desperate and naive

That's why she's saying all those I don't want to hurt you cuz she believes your naive and will manipulate you tire till you fall hopelessly

Secondly, these are your resources: time, money, attention, dìck, validation.

Never give them out cheaply or to a girl you haven't tested that meets your standards.

They should be given as rewards to girls that pass your test, meet your standards or have invested significantly in you or your relationship

When you're quick to give up your resources to a girl, she loses respect for you

Cuz in her mind you're weak and you don't value what you have

And if you don't value what you have, why should she

Oshokhai69:


How old are you?

23

Rizzputin:


Most guys will solve a lot of their problems by 1) Never asking a girl out AND 2) Fùcking a girl before dating her.

Your instincts were right. You should have gone the normal route and fùcked her before dating her. That's how it's done.

Anyways, let's dive in once again. I'll quote your post in italics and reply to each one


● "We started talking, she didn't give me the stress typically of Nigerian girls. She responds to text and calls well and also calls to check me up."

Yeah, this is where she hooked you. You're having seducer's oneitis. That feeling when a girl seems so different from others you've been with or come across she starts looking special. So you start treating her way too differently

No girl is special. Remember that. Yes, allow yourself to have those feelings for her. There's nothing wrong in those feelings.

The problem is the actions you do out of those feelings. Which I'll address as you read on.

Also, a girl responding to your calls and texts then calling you back is NOT a hallmark of a special girl. That is a normal thing an experienced seducer has in his life. It is literally the bare minimum

No girl receives any special treatment or consideration because you reply my text or call me. I will only take not of it if you start leaving me 8 missed calls almost every day.

So what I'm saying raise your standards of what different or special means to you. This is your first mistake. Because if ordinary things like this move you, she won't respect you because you're too easy.


● "Normally, I would have gone for the normal route and get sex and we'll all be cool. But my guy advised I don't do that, that I should make her my woman".

Yes your instincts were right. This is what you should have done.

She will now be the one chasing you for a relationship.


● "All my life, I've been single. I've never been in a real relationship, so I had took this decision to make things different with her."


You probably also told her this or hinted at it. How you want things to be different with her because she's different.

Wrong decision. Because she hasn't done anything of note that makes her different.



● "She feels me, just like I feel her. But after I started the relationship idea, her response and vibes is that she doesn't wants to hurt me."

Of course her vibe has changed. She has gotten the ultimate goal of a woman in manipulation mode. Which is to lock down a man into a relationship with, use his resources. And to do it without little to no effort and without sex.

Once she does this, her goal is achieved then she'll manipulate you completely. Dictate rules in the relationship, cheat on you... spend all your money... give you another man's baby. Now, in your case... this girl may not go that far with you. I'll tell you why in this section but before that let me tell you the two modes that exist in every woman.

Now each girl has two modes constantly running inside her

The first is the desire mode. The ultimate goal of this one is to chase a man she likes, confess her feelings to him and then he fùcks her deeply, intensely and passionately. Women love the chase. They like a man that's mysterious and challenging.

The reward she gets by fùcking you is sweeter. The more different and intense the adventures she experiences while chasing you also makes the sèx sweeter.

When you confess your feelings to her or ask her out you Rob her off this experience. You've denied her of her number one fantasy and desire... and she will resent you for it

This is why immediately you Rob her off this desire, the next mode takes over...

Her manipulation mode. Contrary to what red pillers and alpha males would have you believe, this is the weaker of the two.

Girls are not walking about looking to manipulate men. That is why books And movies like 50 shades of grey that explore a woman's deep, sexual desires are popular among women. And these are the things they spend time on the most.

Her desire mode is stronger but the manipulation mode is strong enough to put up a fight. Each time she meets a new guy, the two modes are present.

Whichever mode wins, depends on the girl, the situation, what point she is in her life and the type of man.

So for example if she meets a man that let's her achieve her desire goal, the manipulation mode remains dormant and inactive. It never goes away. Until something wakes it up like maybe the man starts fùcking up terribly.


● "Because I'm going to fall so hard for her, and I'll get my heart broken"

I had to break up the last section because it was getting to long


Now, when a girl tells you "I don't want to hurt you because you'll fall so hard and get heart broken" it's one of two cases depending on when she tells you

Remember I told you that she won't go for with her manipulation with you? The reason is because girls that say these usually have a good conscience OR they genuinely like you.

However, in your situation you're in the bad case.


The first case a girl will tell you this (which is the good one) is when she first initially meets you and you guys are vibing

She'll tease you as a way to test you and say she'll break you heart or she doesn't want to hurt you. This is usually before you've fùcked her AND before you guys are in a relationship.

Mynresponse is just to smile and ignore.


The second case is the bad one. This happens during a deep heart to heart talk, a deep convo OR when she's already in a relationship with you

If you hear "I don't want to hurt you. You'll get heart broken" in any of those situations, you have fùcked up somewhere.

You're the man. You're the seducer. You're the one whose options matter (because she might have but because of you, they wont matter)

She should be worried about getting her heart broken or getting hurt. Not she being worried that you'll get your heart broken . LMAO

What she just said is womanese.

This is the translation: "I like you. You're such a good, nice, sweet guy. And yes, I'll manipulate you / I already manipulated you / I'm currently manipulating you. But I don't want to hurt you too much"

Another translation (which is similar to the first or related): "Im not as good or special as you think I am. You love me way too much already when I haven't done anything worthy. This makes me feel you're easy to manipulate and I don't respect you for it. Since you're this easy to manipulate, I'll just end up hurting you. Cuz you love me too much already over nothing much"



● We've shared a kiss, I've caressed her, but no sex yet

Have you fingèred her or has she given you a blow jób ?

If no, start from there... Though I doubt the blow jób will happen if you haven't done that by now but read on, we can fix it


● it's almost impossible to get my heart broken.

Lol, you're saying this because the girl actually likes you as a person. So she will hold herself back or think twice on certain things

If it was someone who could care less and she's experienced, things would have turned out differently


● "After sex, the probability that I'll still have the urge to be in a relationship with her, is almost zero too"

Why should sex reduce the urge to date her?

Then you're not ready to be in a relationship then. And that's a childish way of thinking

You should fix your internal mindset before reading the first way I'll suggest to fix your situation



● <<<<<< Your Next Moves>>>>



Continue with everything as normal. Don't act angry or disappointed. Once those 3 days has elapsed just call or text depending on how you do your thing in a calm or chill way.

Though my guess is that she'll hit you up before the 3 days reaches.

Vibe with her normally but do NOT over do the caring, romance thing. Key phrase is: DO NOT OVER DO.

Invite her over whenever you feel is convenient.

Now your first choice is this:

Make out with her, caress her and finger her... make her give you blow joob. Make sure you finger her well.

Tell her that making love to your woman (that is fùcking her) is something you enjoy and it deepens your love for her. And it makes it more genuine

Say that while you're doing pre-intimacy. Listen to her objections and take note of them. That is if she resists sex... there's something she'll tell you. Take note of it. Normally, you'll address it there. If you can, do it and she'll end up fùcking you. If you can't, just post what she says here... And I'll reply you what you'll tell her next time or probably if she's still there


The second choice is the longer one...

Of course the shorter one is easier to fùck up. Which is why most people avoid it. But with experience, you'll be able to navigate around it easily

The longer one is typical red pill advice.

You simply act like the sèx is not a big deal like sèx isn't important. Start talking to other girls... in a way she notices it...

You want to increase your value back up. And nothing does that better than she seeing other girls around you. Not too much Tho (like you kissing them or overly hugging them)

This will set her back in chasing mode... you continue acting like sex isn't a big deal then you run your game as you initially intended to do before your friend gave you that useless advice


● To end this, girls chase relationships more because it's an opportunity to lock down a guy

That's why you must never want a relationship more than a girl does Especially if you haven't fùcked her. You just look desperate and naive

That's why she's saying all those I don't want to hurt you cuz she believes your naive and will manipulate you tire till you fall hopelessly

Secondly, these are your resources: time, money, attention, dìck, validation.

Never give them out cheaply or to a girl you haven't tested that meets your standards.

They should be given as rewards to girls that pass your test, meet your standards or have invested significantly in you or your relationship

When you're quick to give up your resources to a girl, she loses respect for you

Cuz in her mind you're weak and you don't value what you have

And if you don't value what you have, why should she

Thanks king for your reply.

I'll update the house within 10 days.

To add, she been dying to know my age, I don't know why. She's 23, I'm also 23. I don't want to tell her my age.

Idk why it's much of a big deal to her.

Things dey happen

eclatante:
Good morning kings.

I'm met a new girl. We started talking, she didn't give me the stress typically of Nigerian girls. She responds to text and calls well and also calls to check me up.

Normally, I would have gone for the normal route and get sex and we'll all be cool. But my guy advised I don't do that, that I should make her my woman.

All my life, I've been single. I've never been in a real relationship, so I had took this decision to make things different with her.

She feels me, just like I feel her. But after I started the relationship idea, her response and vibes is that she doesn't wants to hurt me.

Because I'm going to fall so hard for her, and I'll get my heart broken. Personally, I'm this kind of guy that doesn't really give AF about getting my heart broken. The possibility of a woman breaking my heart is almost zero.

We've shared a kiss, I've caressed her, but no sex yet. All I wanted was a woman of my own.. because it isn't normal for a guy of 23, not to have tried a relationship for once.

Highlights: 1. it's almost impossible to get my heart broken.

2. I want her to be my girl (I'm tired of playing a hard guy bullcrap)

3. I wanna smash this babe. Haven't had sex in months. (It almost happened, but she stopped half way, telling me I'm rushing things.

4. After sex, the probability that I'll still have the urge to be in a relationship with her, is almost zero too.

5. I bleeped up bringing the relationship crap. (My friend adviced me to get a woman and stick with her) Which I actually wanted but things isn't going as planned.

6. I've decided not to call and text her for the next 3 days.

7. Please how do I fix this? It's 3 weeks since we started talking and no sex yet.

Rizzputin, pukkalolo

I need advice. Thank you kings.

You don fvck up.

First and foremost,stop taking advice from that your friend,he seems blue pilled.

Sex first , relationship second
This is non negotiable.

If you do relationship before sex you will lose more trust me.

A woman should be the one vying for a relationship,a connection, security because basically that's what relationship is for . It benefits Women more.

No sensible guy should chase after a relationship.
Chasing after a relationship is a feminine drive..

A man that chases is a man that loses.
Men with value and options don't chase,they attract.

Give her less attention,if she comes running afraid she's in a state of losing you,only then will that show a little inclination that she's invested or ready to invest in you.

If you lock up and she lock up too, thank your stars, you just dodged a bullet.

Make sure you hit her as soon as possible to get her invested in you. A woman that you haven't fvcked won't be emotionally invested in you .
Understand this.

But don't be pussy focused just to get her.
Instead use less attention to get her to open up.

If at this point she doesn't open those legs,she was never into you.

Move on with the speed of lightning else you'll sign yourself up for games and manipulation.


2. Better don't get tired. As far as associating with women goes, they'll always play games so better be on guard else you get used. There's no good woman anywhere just woman.
How you associate with them is what brings their different flavors.

3. You were pussy focused. She knows you're hungry for sex. She'll use that against you.
Right now , she's got the upper hand

4. Stop rationalizing simping. Fvck her and find out

5. You acted needy and beta. No woman wants a needy guy. Ever. You've messed this one up really bad. How you start with a woman is how you'll end it.
She already sees you one way. Trying to form the hard guy now will seem almost laughable. She won't take you seriously. It's better to cut your losses and get a new one

6 &7. She doesn't give a fvck if you call her. You failed to attract her. Her pussy isn't tingling for you because you acted needy.
You didn't make her work for your attention.
In her eyes, you're already conquered. She did nothing to deserve a relationship.


I don try for you.
Bye

Fiscus105:




See, lady that would flow with you will flow and the one that would ignore will ignore, it has nothing to do with any formulas.

You are right and wrong...


You're right because...

It's true: a lady that would flow with you will flow and the one that would ignore will ignore.

This is because there are lots of things out of your direct control when conversing with a woman. Focusing on trying to flow with the girl or trying to get her to respond positively to you is focusing on what is out of your control... That's pussy focused mindset. That's a poor mindset. That often makes you come across as needy and thirsty.

I have said that countless numbers of time, a girl is either interested/available or she's not. If she's not interested in the chat then the vast majority of time your conversations with her won't be flow... In that case you should withdraw your attention from her immediately.


Next,

Your wrong because...

Just like I said there are lots of things out of your direct control when conversing with a woman... For example, getting her to respond positively to you. That's out of your direct control. It's a waste of time and energy focusing on that.

But there are also things in your direct control... One obvious thing in your control is --- how you choose to construct your conversation with her.

Using in the idea in the previous post I made: being ORIGINAL, EXPRESSIVE AND ENGAGING is in direct your control.

It's your business to be original, expressive and engaging... But how she responds to that is non of your business, so don't worry about her response.

I had a situation where my buddy showed me his chat with a girl... The girl isn't flowing really well and giving him the vibe he wanted. So I told him that once she comes online, he should pass his phone to me let me chat with her myself because I want to confirm if she really had an attitude problem or he's the one making her act that way.

30 minutes later or so she came online, he passed the phone to me--- I started chatting with her. And of course the girl assumed he was the one chatting with her.

The first thing I texted her was, "I should have chat you up earlier, but then I remembered something about you that most guys won't even notice easily."

She was like, "Really, please tell me."

Our conversation dived into the river and flowed smoothly..

To this guy amazement, I started flowing and vibing with the girl smoothly, and before he even knew it I started sexualizing the chat with her.....

The girl seem amazed... because at some point in the chat, she said, "wow, there's something different about you today."

I was also amazed because the girl seemed to be really cool and playful unlike the way he described her initially.

The guy also seem amazed by how I easily vibe with her because this was the same girl he thought had an attitude problem.

Infact, everyone seem amazed.


This only goes to show that some girls are actually willing to engage and flow with you, but YOU are not giving them the opportunity to do so.

For example, if you start the conversation with "hi" or "hey girl" or "hey sweetheart you look beautiful"... then you are not really giving her the opportunity to flow with you because she's sees no reason to engage back.

But if you start the conversation with something like, "I should have chat you up earlier, but I was busy admiring something about you that most guys won't noticed easily."

Now, with that starter you have giving her the opportunity to engage with you, because now she's curious and intrigued by what you said.


Anyways, I hope you get the point

eclatante:


Thanks king for your reply.

I'll update the house within 10 days.

To add, she been dying to know my age, I don't know why. She's 23, I'm also 23. I don't want to tell her my age.

Idk why it's much of a big deal to her.

Sometimes (few cases) girls make age a big deal for relationship.

She most likely won't have ever thought of this if you hadn't brought up a relationship. If you had gone the hook up route, you'd be fùcking by now

However, age doesn't matter much most times if you're coordinated and mature enough.

Also, you not telling her will make it now look like a big deal cuz she'll now feel like you're hiding something.

Don't tell her yet... at least before you fùck her. Cuz if you tell her coupled with all the wrong move you've been making... she'll mentally check out of the relationship and use your age as the excuse. You'll probably receive a talk or text on how "you're too young for her"

So just get her to fùck you first before any other thing. Of course, remember to be chill and not act desperate for it

Rizzputin:


Sometimes (few cases) girls make age a big deal for relationship.

She most likely won't have ever thought of this if you hadn't brought up a relationship. If you had gone the hook up route, you'd be fùcking by now

However, age doesn't matter much most times if you're coordinated and mature enough.

Also, you not telling her will make it now look like a big deal cuz she'll now feel like you're hiding something.

Don't tell her yet... at least before you fùck her. Cuz if you tell her coupled with all the wrong move you've been making... she'll mentally check out of the relationship and use your age as the excuse. You'll probably receive a talk or text on how "you're too young for her"

So just get her to fùck you first before any other thing. Of course, remember to be chill and not act desperate for it

Alright king

Lazycyndy:
Op the English is too high for them abeg reduce it so that the children can learn.

woman! You are healed, park your things and go

DEROX:
23

Do you have a job?