Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 10:09am On Mar 28 |
LORETA: Good morning house, Thank you for all informations here. Please help a sister, I am looking for where I can do fibroid surgery more affordable, here in the uk. The NHS procedure is not encouraging. Please the pain am going tru now it's too much, and its start affecting my job. Please help a sister. So so sorry the NHS is failing you. Even people with cancer who are supposed to be seen in 2 weeks are falling through the cracks. That private consultation is to see the specialist. You will need to pay for Investigations and imaging. The surgery will cost about £4k again. If I were you ,I would fly home to Nigeria, find a gynecologist who works in the Teaching Hospital or FMC of my state, go to his private clinic and get the surgery done. Its the exact same thing only cheaper and faster. ( you can also choose top hospitals in Lagos or Abuja, they have cutting edge tech too) For procedures involving surgery of head ,neck,lungs ,heart,spine,probably best to wait on the nhs 13 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lastkingsman: 12:14pm On Mar 28 |
Lexusgs430:
Don't worry, tinubu just instituted an economic committee........ It consists of many successful business people and very few economist/international advisers, the same successful business people, that lead the destruction, are tasked to find a solution ..........😜😁 Those people are hawks. They are there to collect their own share and protect their interests. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by segunzolawalez: 12:41pm On Mar 28 |
Good morning everyone. Is watersupport scheme public funds? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 12:45pm On Mar 28 |
missjekyll: May i exclude my past and future generations from this incredibly racist description. You may accept it for yourself, i have no problem with that.
As he was writing this s**t about us, his people were pooing in the Thames. Infact ,during summer,the thames smelled so Much that parliament had to be suspended. Children as young as 3 years old were put to work among other barbaric practices.
Not planning for the future is a common failing in bad leaders of every race. Infact, the current housing crisis in the UK can be linked directly to this . I hope it wont be long before Kogi state renames its government house (currently its called Lugard house). This man should be confined to the soakaway of history.
LOL, as usual. It's either racism or neo-colonialism instead of looking into the mirror. It's the same thing when you ask the black man what he has contributed to the world, he is either mentioning the pyramids, Ethiopia or ancient Benin empires all with a serious face They were pooing in the River Thames in 1914 but guess where they still wash and poo in rivers in 2024? Nigeria . Speaking about barbaric practices. Guess where children are kidnapped en masse and sold to jihadi terrorists in 2024? Nigeria. Want to take a guess where children are exploited as house helps and killed for rituals in 2024? Nigeria Want to also guess which country in 2024 has a church on every street and prefers to pray to God instead of fixing actual issues as described in that Lugard excerpt? Nigeria Continue merry-go-rounding and speaking English when the irony is staring at you in the face 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 12:47pm On Mar 28 |
Goodenoch:
This is pseudoscientific nonsense.
The state of mind described here would be the same for any group of people with the same lack of education/exposure, and whose horizons and ambitions were limited as a result. People like Lugard said the same about indigenous people everywhere else from America to Australia, etc. It’s part of the MO of conquerors to dehumanize those they conquer to justify their actions. Civilizations like the Mongols also likely held similar ideas about how much better they were than the other countries when they ruled half the world, but now they’re a tiny inconsequential country.
People from the former colonies are increasingly occupying high positions in politics, business, professional fields and everywhere else in the UK and elsewhere, including an outsized contingent from Nigeria, so it’s clearly not about anything in the brain and about the society and the education, rule of law and other factors that keep people in line.
Much as I hate to cite colonialism, fact is that the forced mashup of several groups in Nigeria is a major reason for the inability to have a cohesive national front to tackle issues. Britain with just 4 ethnic groups has had civil wars among them, with the most recent just a few decades ago although they cleverly call it ‘the Troubles’ and not a civil war. Till just last month governance was paused in Northern Ireland because of underlying ethno-religious disputes under the guise of parties not being able to agree (although if it was in Africa they’d say it was ‘tribal warring). So isn’t it logical that Nigeria is struggling more? I don’t think that excuses the people in power and us as Nigerians in general but it’s important to put issues in context and not take to simplistic assessments just because they sound witty.
To be clear I’m not disputing your right to believe you as an individual ‘African native’ are far nearer to the animal world and do not have ambition and all the rest o - feel free to internalize and work with that, I’m saying it’s not true for the generality of Africans. Didnt read all that but OK and may God help us |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 12:48pm On Mar 28 |
lavida001:
Neo colonialism is part of it. Where are all the looted funds going. Youkay, France, America. Some of our politicians are even big donors to uk universities. But ... we stole the funds and deprived people of a chance at a decent life If them bring money for you, you no go collect? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 1:29pm On Mar 28 |
hustla:
Didnt read all that but OK and may God help us Oh I now see why you felt affinity with the statement. 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 3:01pm On Mar 28 |
Goodenoch:
Oh I now see why you felt affinity with the statement. OK |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Jennex(f): 3:13pm On Mar 28 |
What if you see a citizen who agrees to stand as the father and the child was born here. Zahra29:
There isn't a special category for being born here as the kids fall under the immigration status of their parents at the time of birth.
The advantage from being born here is that it can be used to regularise their status after 7 years. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by MichaelUde: 3:17pm On Mar 28 |
hustla:
Naija, everyone is just looting, no one is sensible enough to care about the future or even plan for it
Lord Lugard's excerpt about Nigeria and Africans still holds true several years after
I have taken some parts loosely below -
His thoughts are concentrated on the events and feelings of the moment, and he suffers little from the apprehension for the future or grief for the past. His mind is far nearer to the animal world than that of the European or Asiatic, and exhibits something of the animals' placidity and want of desire to rise beyond the state he has reached. Perhaps, the two traits which have impressed me as those most characteristic of the African native are his lack of apprehension and his lack of ability to visualize the future hustla o. Come out, come out, wherever you are. Make we drag you small, its Easter and we need some entertainment. On a serious note, how could you write wetin you write up yonder? Just a while ago, while dey were dragging Lexus upandan, your proudly announced you had passed your finals and obtained an M.Sc in Cybersecurity. We, on behalf of the Nigerian Migrants Pandemic Set of 20/21, were happy for you. Now you come dey quote one kolo man's rubbish talk for us. Are you now saying that you are exhibiting a "want of desire to rise beyond the state that Buhari left you in Naija? Nigeria is what it is. It is badly governed, its leaders are lousy, corruption full everywhere. We know. We know what it is like. We all abandoned ship from there. Many African countries are in similar states. We sabi. The state of Nigeria in particular and Africa as a whole pains those of us who think about it. But. But there is nothing genetically wrong with Africans and people of African descent wey don make Nigeria and Africa dey where they are now. The people who govern are lousy but that's them. The people who they govern could do more about freeing themselves from the lousy misgovernment, but other peoples have been misgoverned too and they no talk, not just Africans. At the risk of exciting missjekyll, it is arguable that the UK itself is a place where the governed too keep quiet and continue to exist while their governing class does anyhow. Nothing genetically wrong with that - or with anyone. Abeg, please go and pull yourself one cold pint on my tab and reconsider what you wrote. No come dey add fuel to the right-wingers' fire biko. You are just as good a cybersecurityman as anyone else (that is what you have been telling recruiters o), so don't come and talk different for here. 5 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 3:22pm On Mar 28 |
MichaelUde:
hustla o. Come out, come out, wherever you are. Make we drag you small, its Easter and we need some entertainment.
On a serious note, how could you write wetin you write up yonder? Just a while ago, while dey were dragging Lexus upandan, your proudly announced you had passed your finals and obtained an M.Sc in Cybersecurity. We, on behalf of the Nigerian Migrants Pandemic Set of 20/21, were happy for you. Now you come dey quote one kolo man's rubbish talk for us. Are you now saying that you are exhibiting a "want of desire to rise beyond the state that Buhari left you in Naija?
Nigeria is what it is. It is badly governed, its leaders are lousy, corruption full everywhere. We know. We know what it is like. We all abandoned ship from there. Many African countries are in similar states. We sabi. The state of Nigeria in particular and Africa as a whole pains those of us who think about it.
But.
But there is nothing genetically wrong with Africans and people of African descent wey don make Nigeria and Africa dey where they are now. The people who govern are lousy but that's them. The people who they govern could do more about freeing themselves from the lousy misgovernment, but other peoples have been misgoverned too and they no talk, not just Africans. At the risk of exciting missjekyll, it is arguable that the UK itself is a place where the governed too keep quiet and continue to exist while their governing class does anyhow. Nothing genetically wrong with that - or with anyone.
Abeg, please go and pull yourself one cold pint on my tab and reconsider what you wrote. No come dey add fuel to the right-wingers' fire biko. You are just as good a cybersecurityman as anyone else (that is what you have been telling recruiters o), so don't come and talk different for here. Quick question - Who elects those leaders? You mean there is nothing wrong with a set of people who have been voting in the same set of useless leaders since 1960? You mean there is nothing wrong with people who voted Buhari in, then voted Tinubu next? Let's leave Nigeria for a bit, show me two countries in Africa dominated by black people that is thriving on all fronts. Just two. I am not talking genetics, I am just saying what LL said still applies to present day Africa / Nigeria I am not a right winger or left winger o please, I am just a "truth winger" 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by MichaelUde: 3:34pm On Mar 28 |
hustla:
Quick question - Who elects those leaders? You mean there is nothing wrong with a set of people who have been voting in the same set of useless leaders since 1960? You mean there is nothing wrong with people who voted Buhari in, then voted Tinubu next?
Let's leave Nigeria for a bit, show me two countries in Africa dominated by black people that is thriving on all fronts. Just two. I am not talking genetics, I am just saying what LL said still applies to present day Africa / Nigeria
I am not a right winger or left winger o please, I am just a "truth winger"
Oga, na only one pint wey I say make you drink for my head na. E be like say you don go do more than one. You've missed the point. I agreed with you that Africa's current state is underwhelming, deplorable, saddening, take your pick and fill in the blanks. But that has nothing inherent to do with the African himself, just the same way the way Europe bin dey generations or centuries ago or in the 1950s when millions of dem still dey shit for outside was not imputable to any intrinsic failing in the oyibo man. Taking your argument to its logical end, it means that you believe that we black people in the UK and everywhere else, are not as good as the rest of the world's peoples. So in other words, its inborn, genetic. And me I am saying unto you that by believing and saying what you have said, you are wrong, and very wrong too. 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 3:51pm On Mar 28 |
MichaelUde:
Oga, na only one pint wey I say make you drink for my head na. E be like say you don go do more than one.
You've missed the point. I agreed with you that Africa's current state is underwhelming, deplorable, saddening, take your pick and fill in the blanks. But that has nothing inherent to do with the African himself, just the same way the way Europe bin dey generations or centuries ago or in the 1950s when millions of dem still dey shit for outside was not imputable to any intrinsic failing in the oyibo man.
Taking your argument to its logical end, it means that you believe that we black people in the UK and everywhere else, are not as good as the rest of the world's peoples. So in other words, its inborn, genetic. And me I am saying unto you that by believing and saying what you have said, you are wrong, and very wrong too. Nope I'll be right back. Make i finish my presentation |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 4:41pm On Mar 28 |
hustla:
Nope
I'll be right back. Make i finish my presentation Dear me. You cannot convince me that I am genetically stupid ,unable to plan and just a cut above an animal. It seems I cannot convince you that you are not genetically stupid and animalistic,as well. Shall we agree to disagree, perhaps? I'm giving in . Happy Easter |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 4:46pm On Mar 28 |
missjekyll:
Dear me.
You cannot convince me that I am genetically stupid ,unable to plan and just a cut above an animal. It seems I cannot convince you that you are not genetically stupid and animalistic,as well.
Shall we agree to disagree, perhaps? I'm giving in . Happy Easter OK ; ..but before. you go, counter my points in direct response to what I wrote. You accused the white man of doing some things in 1914, same thing your country people still do in 2024 Throwing low jibes is not how you engage in discourse 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 4:48pm On Mar 28 |
@ MichaelUde Oya come. I don finish |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 4:49pm On Mar 28 |
Goodenoch:
This is pseudoscientific nonsense.
The state of mind described here would be the same for any group of people with the same lack of education/exposure, and whose horizons and ambitions were limited as a result. People like Lugard said the same about indigenous people everywhere else from America to Australia, etc. It’s part of the MO of conquerors to dehumanize those they conquer to justify their actions. Civilizations like the Mongols also likely held similar ideas about how much better they were than the other countries when they ruled half the world, but now they’re a tiny inconsequential country.
People from the former colonies are increasingly occupying high positions in politics, business, professional fields and everywhere else in the UK and elsewhere, including an outsized contingent from Nigeria, so it’s clearly not about anything in the brain and about the society and the education, rule of law and other factors that keep people in line.
Much as I hate to cite colonialism, fact is that the forced mashup of several groups in Nigeria is a major reason for the inability to have a cohesive national front to tackle issues. Britain with just 4 ethnic groups has had civil wars among them, with the most recent just a few decades ago although they cleverly call it ‘the Troubles’ and not a civil war. Till just last month governance was paused in Northern Ireland because of underlying ethno-religious disputes under the guise of parties not being able to agree (although if it was in Africa they’d say it was ‘tribal warring). So isn’t it logical that Nigeria is struggling more? I don’t think that excuses the people in power and us as Nigerians in general but it’s important to put issues in context and not take to simplistic assessments just because they sound witty.
To be clear I’m not disputing your right to believe you as an individual ‘African native’ are far nearer to the animal world and do not have ambition and all the rest o - feel free to internalize and work with that, I’m saying it’s not true for the generality of Africans. If it’s not true then why is the entirety of Africa still having thesame dilemma after independence. Why can’t African make a decision for themselves? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 4:50pm On Mar 28 |
lavida001:
If it’s not true then why is the entirety of Africa still having thesame dilemma after independence. Why can’t Africa make a decision for themselves? The thing dey pain and people will always argue with emotions and sentiments, ignoring the reality on ground A set of people collectively no fit organize themselves for 60+ years, them still dey prove my point dey talk "i", "me" upandan Plenty English, that's all Africans know how to speak. As a unit, we do well, as a whole, we are just as that LL guy described |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 4:54pm On Mar 28 |
missjekyll: May i exclude my past and future generations from this incredibly racist description. You may accept it for yourself, i have no problem with that.
As he was writing this s**t about us, his people were pooing in the Thames. Infact ,during summer,the thames smelled so Much that parliament had to be suspended. Children as young as 3 years old were put to work among other barbaric practices.
Not planning for the future is a common failing in bad leaders of every race. Infact, the current housing crisis in the UK can be linked directly to this . I hope it wont be long before Kogi state renames its government house (currently its called Lugard house). This man should be confined to the soakaway of history.
Stop making excuse for Nigeria. The country is rotten to the core. Just say it nobody will beat you |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Jennex(f): 4:59pm On Mar 28 |
Before the seven years how will she survive? Viruses:
Let her give birth, after 7 yrs she can use the child to regularize her stay.
Go the LGBTQ route and have the community protect you. Yes they can. Infact if you know the loopholes, you will get ILR before you say jack. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 5:00pm On Mar 28 |
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 5:02pm On Mar 28 |
MichaelUde:
hustla o. Come out, come out, wherever you are. Make we drag you small, its Easter and we need some entertainment.
On a serious note, how could you write wetin you write up yonder? Just a while ago, while dey were dragging Lexus upandan, your proudly announced you had passed your finals and obtained an M.Sc in Cybersecurity. We, on behalf of the Nigerian Migrants Pandemic Set of 20/21, were happy for you. Now you come dey quote one kolo man's rubbish talk for us. Are you now saying that you are exhibiting a "want of desire to rise beyond the state that Buhari left you in Naija?
Nigeria is what it is. It is badly governed, its leaders are lousy, corruption full everywhere. We know. We know what it is like. We all abandoned ship from there. Many African countries are in similar states. We sabi. The state of Nigeria in particular and Africa as a whole pains those of us who think about it.
But.
But there is nothing genetically wrong with Africans and people of African descent wey don make Nigeria and Africa dey where they are now. The people who govern are lousy but that's them. The people who they govern could do more about freeing themselves from the lousy misgovernment, but other peoples have been misgoverned too and they no talk, not just Africans. At the risk of exciting missjekyll, it is arguable that the UK itself is a place where the governed too keep quiet and continue to exist while their governing class does anyhow. Nothing genetically wrong with that - or with anyone.
Abeg, please go and pull yourself one cold pint on my tab and reconsider what you wrote. No come dey add fuel to the right-wingers' fire biko. You are just as good a cybersecurityman as anyone else (that is what you have been telling recruiters o), so don't come and talk different for here. No evidence bro |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 5:02pm On Mar 28 |
lavida001:
Stop making excuse for Nigeria. The country is rotten to the core. Just say it nobody will beat you Pinpointing housing crisis in the UK when Lagos literally has people sleeping under bridges at Ozumba Mbadiwe Funny enough, housing crisis is part of what I just described during the presentation I was doing some mins ago. Countries are providing packages for people who are homeless, from GP to apprenticeship to deposit schemes, to fully paid supported accomodation, but your country people after 60 years still has people living under the bridge ..but na colonialism 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by MichaelUde: 5:03pm On Mar 28 |
hustla: @ MichaelUde
Oya come. I don finish
You don come back? How was the presentation? Did anyone listen to you? Or did they feel your words displayed a natural lack of ambition? As you don come back, talk your own here. I go reply you soon. I dey work, where I am a manager, a position which I was given out of the blue, dashed really, with no effort, aspiration or ambition on my part, and we're doing budget planning, which is oh so difficult for me, because, as you and Freddie Lugard talk, I no get " ability to visualize the future". 9 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 5:06pm On Mar 28 |
lavida001:
I think some people having been here for a while tend to lose sense of what’s going on at home. In a way 1914 British is even better than present Nigeria. Shey na Lagos wey dem dey throw refuse for middle of road we wan dey talk bi canals filled with plastics.
London Bridge was built in 1914 Look at what Desmond Elliot built in 2020 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 5:06pm On Mar 28 |
MichaelUde:
You don come back? How was the presentation? Did anyone listen to you? Or did they feel your words displayed a natural lack of ambition?
As you don come back, talk your own here. I go reply you soon. I dey work, where I am a manager, a position which I was given out of the blue, dashed really, with no effort, aspiration or ambition on my part, and we're doing budget planning, which is oh so difficult for me, because, as you and Freddie Lugard talk, I no get "ability to visualize the future".
Okay, is that all? Tell me how your. country has visualized the future in recent years |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by MichaelUde: 5:07pm On Mar 28 |
lavida001:
I think some people having been here for a while tend to lose sense of what’s going on at home. In a way 1914 British is even better than present Nigeria. Shey na Lagos wey dem dey throw refuse for middle of road we wan dey talk bi canals filled with plastics.
On a deadly serious note, trust me, given the number of people I know of who are struggling to survive back home, and the amounts of money I have to send back home to try and give stipends to some of them, I know fully well what's going on back home. But again, I repeat - there's nothing genetic or inevitable about it. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 5:08pm On Mar 28 |
hustla:
The thing dey pain and people will always argue with emotions and sentiments, ignoring the reality on ground
A set of people collectively no fit organize themselves for 60+ years, them still dey prove my point dey talk "i", "me" upandan
Plenty English, that's all Africans know how to speak. As a unit, we do well, as a whole, we are just as that LL guy described
The earlier we start telling ourselves the truth then we can start seeing changes. No be by big English. China wasn’t built with big English rather they looked inwards and decide on what they want. Today they are world super power. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 5:14pm On Mar 28 |
MichaelUde:
On a deadly serious note, trust me, given the number of people I know of who are struggling to survive back home, and the amounts of money I have to send back home to try and give stipends to some of them, I know fully well what's going on back home.
But again, I repeat - there's nothing genetic or inevitable about it. Then why is someone stealing million of £ when his brother and sisters wallow in penury? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 5:32pm On Mar 28 |
hustla:
London Bridge was built in 1914
Look at what Desmond Elliot built in 2020
Imagine what he put on the invoice, claiming he delivered a dividend of democracy, to his constituents, via his constituency project allocation (as a ranking senator)......😜🤣 |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 5:37pm On Mar 28 |
Lexusgs430:
Imagine what he put on the invoice, claiming he delivered a dividend of democracy, to his constituents, via his constituency project allocation (as a ranking senator)......😜🤣 100M at the least smh! |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 5:39pm On Mar 28 |
hustla:
100M at the least
smh!
At least, he can say he delivered a bridge (but he actually did)........😂😁 |