MightySparrow:

Jesus was not going to hospitals. People that need miracles sought Him. Or whenever, He needed to show mercy.
Point of correction. No pastor is in control of miracles. All miracle recipients will still use their faith. Preacers gather people together, preach a message that will stir up their faith. Atimes, the girls you deny come into to play.
No pastor is is control either. He is just a channel.
So, you and your cronies are wrong in your judgement of a topic you don't understand.

MaxInDHouse:


That bishop will slap the nonsense out of his head if he couldn't perform real miracles!

MaxInDHouse:




https://www.nairaland.com/newpost?topic=8044948
The highlighted shows why most people don't believe in your churches again as they're not seeing the so called miracles and those doing what seems like miracles are staging it!

MightySparrow:




I laugh in Jehovah's Witnesses's paradise's language.
Judas betrayed Jesus, Demas forsook Paul and later became the persecutor of the church.
Many of your members are leaving delusion in droves.
Your GB are struggling to keep them and are making adjustments to your pride doctrines..

Could you please paste your pictures with full grown beards?

Daejumong:
Many have wondered why the revered man of God didn’t see his spiritual son”s imminent untimely death .
The truth is sometimes God speaks through a junior prophet and will not reveal it to a senior prophet. He can speak through subordinates, strangers or unbelievers!
Sometimes He can even speak through a donkey, Numbers 22.
In the case of Herbert Wigwe, he spoke through his PA , Sola Faleye.
In Sola’s words, ‘ sir are you comfortable flying in a chopper at night?’
Herbert replied and said he trusts the navigation system in America.
Would Herbert have said the same thing if it was his spiritual father Pastor Adeboye that raised the concern, he would definitely have cancelled the flight .
God in this case spoke through the PA but Herbert just like many of us do not listen when it comes from the most unlikely of places.
We all will die but it is never the PERFECT will of God for us to die a gruesome untimely death.
Oh God please help us all to know when you are speaking to us especially when it’s coming from places we don’t expect.
Rest in peace Herbert, Doreen and Chizi.

MaxInDHouse:


Peter and John never asked of faith before healing the cripple at the temple gate so stop deceiving yourself!

Truvelisback:
But Jesus couldn't heal certain people in the Bible because of their faithlessness. What do you have to say?

Aemmyjah:


Mention the instances where Jesus couldn't heal anyone

There are occasions of people who expressed doubt but still saw him perform miracle

Truvelisback:
In His hometown. He couldn't perform any miracle because of their unbelief.

Aemmyjah:


You'd have used the proper verb

He did not perform any miracles there is not synonymous as he couldn't perform it... It's like you being a philanthropist and helping the less privileged in many communities. In your own community, you did not like the expectations of the people as if it were their right you did anything philanthropic
You then leave the community

You did not do anything does not mean you could not have done. It was your own choice

Truvelisback:
Read Mark 6 vs 5. No matter how anointed you are, if the person you intend to pray for don't believe or have a doubtful heart, nothing will work.

Aemmyjah:



1And he went out from thence, and came into his own country; and his disciples follow him.
2 And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands? 3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
4 But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.
5 And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. 6 And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.

Oga
Rest

The man that Jesus expelled demons from his son did not show faith
The dead Jesus raised did not have faith
Even Martha (or Mary) did not show faith cos they objected when he asked that they removed the tomb stone

Faith is very essential though

Truvelisback:
But Jesus couldn't heal certain people in the Bible because of their faithlessness. What do you have to say?

MaxInDHouse:

That simply means they never approached him!

Faith is required on the part of something who needs something so you have to approach the person you want to help you.

Because Jesus grew up as a carpenter in their midst and they knew he wasn't educated in any of their Rabbinic schools so who ordained him?

That's why they refused to approach him but in the same place those that approached him were cured:

So he was not able to do any powerful work there except to lay his hands on a few sick people and cure them. Mark 6:5

Jesus often sends out the force to cure when there are many expecting to be healed he can't start touching each of them but in this case only few tried to see him so he laid his hands on them and cured them.

Your own pastors will still tell someone who left Ọ̀yọ́, Ògùn, Ọ̀ṣun, Òndó, Èkìtì, Ẹdó and so on to Lagos claiming they were not healed because they don't have faith.
Please what made them travel all the way to see these Yahoo big boys if not faith?

Truvelisback:
You are right. However, in some cases, faith is required. Jesus asked a man, "Believe ye that I can do this?". I only brought this Bible passage because you talked about the use of the word "could not".

Truvelisback:
We are not talking about approach here, we are talking about faith. Jesus wanted to heal them but they didn't believe in Him. A person may approach you without believing. In some cases, Jesus would ask, ''Do you believe that I can do this?".

Aemmyjah:


Could not means inability
Did not implies choice

We must demonstrate faith to receive God's help
What if Jesus sincerely chose to help someone who is faithless. Would his God's given power bounce back to him?

Aemmyjah:

Could not means inability
Did not implies choice
We must demonstrate faith to receive God's help
What if Jesus sincerely chose to help someone who is faithless. Would his God's given power bounce back to him?

Truvelisback:
It may not work. Faith is necessary even if it's very small. Even our prayers requires faith for us to receive answers.

MaxInDHouse:


Of course it's about APPROACH because the Bible said:

"he laid his hand on them to cure them" Mark 6:5

Which is impossible if they never approached him!

Truvelisback:
We are not talking about approach here, we are talking about faith. Jesus wanted to heal them but they didn't believe in Him. A person may approach you without believing. In some cases, Jesus would ask, ''Do you believe that I can do this?".

Truvelisback:
Haven't you red a situation where a man approached Jesus for a miracle or healing or deliverance or so and Jesus refused to answer the man because of his unbelief? The man started pleading that Jesus should help his unbelief.

MaxInDHouse:


NO!

It wasn't the man rather it's the man's son. Mark 19:24

That's another evidence that the sick person is not disturbing Jesus' ability to heal whether he believes or not!

Aemmyjah:


Did the widow or Nain or any of the mourners approach Jesus?
What about the one that Jesus asked him to go and wash at the Pool of Siloam

Truvelisback:
Why did Jesus refuse to heal the man's son?

MaxInDHouse:

According to the story did Jesus refused to heal the man's son?

Guy, try to learn, you only remember the story but what happened exactly you don't know in the Bible yet after showing you you're still poised for blind argument.

Jesus never hesitate to cure the man's child rather the man had issues concerning the use of Jesus' name to heal, in Matthews account of the same story the man first took his son to the Apostles who were just calling Jesus' name according to what he asked them to do even though most of them are still having doubts about their own leader that's what affected the man's child.

So when Jesus saw what happened he blamed both his disciples and the man (not the sick child) Jesus later told his disciples that their failure to heal the child is their own lack of faith:

“Lord, have mercy on my son, because he is an epileptic and is ill. He falls often into the fire and often into the water. I brought him to your disciples, but they could not cure him.” In reply Jesus said: “O faithless and twisted generation, how long must I continue with you? How long must I put up with you? Bring him here to me.” Then Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of him, and the boy was cured from that hour. Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said: “Why could we not expel it?”  He said to them: “Because of your little faith. For truly I say to you, if you have faith the size of a mustard grain, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move, and nothing will be impossible for you" Matthew 17:15-20

So when Jesus said "lack of faith" he wasn't only talking about those needing cure but the nation of Israel as a whole including his own disciples:

"When Jesus heard that, he was amazed and said to those following him: “I tell you the truth, with no one in Israel have I found so great a faith" Matthew 8:10

Truvelisback:
The story is different from the one I am talking about.

Truvelisback:
Jesus chose to help her because he had compassion on her. There are cases Jesus chose to help people on His own.

Aemmyjah:


Oga rest
Is Papa doing miracles?
Yes or No?

If yes, mention one authentic one he's done in front of people
If not, why


You worship Mammon