If you read the history of Isreal in where they currently occupy, youd have no choice but to support Israel

elhakiimed:
Me first:

I study in Europe with classmates from Isreal and Palestine, so its natural to feel conflicted. While I maintain a good relationship with both of them, I am not in doubt about my opinion of the crisis at Gaza.

Personally, I believe it's a genocide that Nato and UN continues to condone.


Also, I feel this period of Russian-Ukraine war helps to highlight the inequality, hypocrisy, and deprivation resulting from the Isreal-Palestine crisis.

For the first time, The West can see the irony of their government's international support.

I mean how do you seek support against genocide in Ukraine while sponsoring one yourself in Gaza?

AlexBells:

First there has been a distortion of the original post, maybe a screenshot which I didn’t get earlier second. He want People to tell him why they support Isreal aside religion.

Ok..... I can understand .... was responding to what was posted and deleted/modified.

Originalsly:


As a reader.... there is nothing incoherent in the post. If it's beyond your level of comprehension why not be quiet and try to figure out from comments what it is about?

@ topic ... as someone who almost on a daily basis speak to Jews ... Israelis and Palestinians.... as someone who has watched lots of unbiased documentaries... I am not at all surprised by the actions of the Israeli. It is hard to convince me that they are not following Hitler's blue print of extermination. I can't understand how our people can be so brainwashed to not see this as genocide. 16 soldiers were killed in Delta State .... is it right for the military to invade the community where they were killed?... and eventually the entire Delta State?... killing civilians indiscriminately in the name of going after the terrorists who massacred the 16 soldiers? How can it be wrong for the Nigerian Military to carry out collective punishment .... but right for the Israeli Military to do same? The US and other countries condemn Putin for killing a few Ukranians .... ran to the ICC ... Putin wanted for war crimes ... genocide... but Netanyahu can get a pass for killing tens of thousands? Hypocrisy everywhere.

I say above because I know for sure the supporters of Israel cannot defend their stand with reason.

Tinubu supporters! Anyone who doesn’t know the common religious sentiments will now try to engage in a reasonable argument lol

Floky215:


The question you should have asked yourself is why are they dying...!!?

No country would sit back and watch others try to exterminate them..!!!

Go to gaza today, hate is been taught to the kids right from young age and indoctrination is done to see the jews as people to be hated and killed given any chance...it's this mind set they have that made them want to murder Jews and get killed in the process...!!

Tell why just the Arab and of islamic extraction alone having thos issue....!!?
There are Bedouins and other minorities in Israel..none of them is screaming Allah akbar to kill Jews...infact they have assimilated and lots are among the fighting force of the IDF...!!

Why only the Arab and especially those of Islamic extraction?

Until you choose to tell yourself the truth and stop been an hypocrite..you would continue going in circle...!!!

I think you should ask yourself this same question. Those hamas were kids orphaned by Isreal over the decades. If your mum comes home that someone slapped her, by your logic we should blame your mum and you for getting angry about it (not to mention unalive the whole family).

What do you expect to read from the media controlled by the sponsors? It is called Dehumanization. You make people believe somepeople are no good, so whatever you do to them goes. The Us and Nato protect their interest in the Middle East by installing the apartheid state and fooling gullible people to waste innocent lives.

Osama bin laden and bad eggs like him were trained by this same US for terrorism, and NETANYAHU released millions of dollars to Hamas months before this current attack. Why?

Look at what is happening in Sudan, Jos, southern Kadunna, I have not seen a topic created by the Op, Isreal is his problem simply because Israel decided to pay them with their own coin.
Op remove religion aside and think about what is happening in this places I mentioned, then you will have your answers.

elhakiimed:


But it didnt start with Hamas attack on oct 7th. People in palestine died everyday before Oct 6th, and after Oct 7, over 20 thousand humans, kids included.

If you kill 10 rats in the street, you can imagine how littered the whole place looks. Imagine innocent humans in thousand.

So how far back should we go? Both sides have been exchanging fire for so long. We all know Israel left Gaza completely in 2005 and dismantled all their former settlements there allowing them to rule themselves but they started throwing rockets at Israel. So if u claim it didn't start on Oct 7, how far back to do want to go so we can start from there?

elhakiimed:


I support Palestinians because I believe nobody deserves to die as if their lives mean any less.

There are innocent jews and arabs suffering in this crisis, and the UN, ICC, Nato are openly biased. They treat Ukraine invasion as an abomination and then Gaza like a fumigation exercise. It's evil.

But Russia invaded Ukraine unprovoked, I mean govt of Ukraine didn't attack Russian territory before they were invaded. On the other hand govt of Gaza which is Hamas invaded Israel, attacked, killed and jidnapped their citizens before Israel retaliated, invaded in search of their kidnapped citizens. Are u saying u don't know this?

elhakiimed:


At the moment, if you still comment online saying "unprovoked", you should bury your face in shame for your naivety.

Palestinians die everyday before 6th Oct, and it's been like that for decades.

You say they took hostages. Same hostages that were waving Hamas goodbye during evacuation, while isreal idf return child hostages in headlock.

Are u kidding? So cos hostages are waving their captives goodbye means they enjoy being held captive? U don't sound human at all. Go and be kidnapped first, those kidnapped in Nigeria years ago like Nkem Owoh and Pete Edochie never said any thing bad about their captives when they were released cos of fear and trauma, would take a long time to get yourself back. BTW tot u said u were unbiased and wanted unbiased reasons for support? Do u consider urself unbiased? U are sounding like a terrorist sympathiser.

elhakiimed:
Apparently, the topic went over your head. You definitely have nothing to say once religion was out of the discussion.

Na now you know most Nigerians don't really have anything to talk about except their tribe and religion.
I keep telling the so called Pentecostals that are carrying this conflict on their heads more than even Israelis themselves that this actually isn't a war between Islam And Jews but a war between the state of Israel and Hamas
You can narrow it down further as a continuation of the proxy war between US and RUSSIA..... The first front was Ukraine where US boots are on ground helping out just the way they are doing in GAZA.

Nigerians leave their own problems dey face conflict that has every probability of breaking out again in 2 to 3 years

Originalsly:


Delta incident was a parallel I was making. Question to you: Was the Oct7 a first attack? ... or a retaliation? Your response will tell me what you really know or don't know.... whether you are an independent thinker and have knowledge .... or just information.

Israel and Palestine has been at loggerheads for millennia so why are you talking as if the o7 issues is the first instance. These two events are highly unrelated

elhakiimed:


At the moment, if you still comment online saying "unprovoked", you should bury your face in shame for your naivety.

Palestinians die everyday before 6th Oct, and it's been like that for decades.

You say they took hostages. Same hostages that were waving Hamas goodbye during evacuation, while isreal idf return child hostages in headlock.

I wanted to seriously reply you before I saw your last paragraph....I just knew "this one na underage".



No sensible person would support Hamas ......

You cannot tell me how to revenge what you did to me.......you fit slap me make I cut your hand in return.

Odibembem:


Are u kidding? So cos hostages are waving their captives goodbye means they enjoy being held captive? U don't sound human at all. Go and be kidnapped first, those kidnapped in Nigeria years ago like Nkem Owoh and Pete Edochie never said any thing bad about their captives when they were released cos of fear and trauma, would take a long time to get yourself back. BTW tot u said u were unbiased and wanted unbiased reasons for support? Do u consider urself unbiased? U are sounding like a terrorist sympathiser.

when I saw his last paragraph...I just new this one is a kid.

elhakiimed:
Me first:

I study in Europe with classmates from Isreal and Palestine, so its natural to feel conflicted. While I maintain a good relationship with both of them, I am not in doubt about my opinion of the crisis at Gaza.

Personally, I believe it's a genocide that Nato and UN continues to condone.


Also, I feel this period of Russian-Ukraine war helps to highlight the inequality, hypocrisy, and deprivation resulting from the Isreal-Palestine crisis.

For the first time, The West can see the irony of their government's international support.

I mean how do you seek support against genocide in Ukraine while sponsoring one yourself in Gaza?

If you know your history you will understand better and no intelligent person has ever suggested that genocide is taking place in Ukraine.
You don't seem to know the meaning of genocide.
Lastly Israel was not found guilty of commiting genocide by the international court.

AlexBells:

Israel and Palestine has been at loggerheads for millennia so why are you talking as if the o7 issues is the first instance. These two events are highly unrelated

Being at loggerheads is no excuse for what happened on October 07. Or do you start raping women and killing babies because of loggerhead?

elhakiimed:


I support Palestinians because I believe nobody deserves to die as if their lives mean any less.

There are innocent jews and arabs suffering in this crisis, and the UN, ICC, Nato are openly biased. They treat Ukraine invasion as an abomination and then Gaza like a fumigation exercise. It's evil.

If you truly believe that nobody deserves to die then you will understand why Hamas must be eliminated. They are agents of death.

tctrills:

Being at loggerheads is no excuse for what happened on October 07. Or do you start raping women and killing babies because of loggerhead?

The actions of both sides are justified, it is war and anything can be a spoil

elhakiimed:


You'd support Palestine because you're human, and you should be worried about whatever puts thousands of lives,including kids in danger.

Giving Isreal excuse on the basis of religion would simply make you a lunatic psychopath, and the world should turn their face when similar thing happen in your house.

I don't care about either of them, but those who failed to condemned what Hamas did on October 7 have no right to condemn Israel reaction to it.
I'd do anything to protect my own family against people who swore not to stop until I'm destroyed.
If the situation is reversed and Israel is the weaker side, most people will have different opinions. That's hypocrisy.

AlexBells:

The actions of both sides are justified, it is war and anything can be a spoil

If you justify any action in war, then it would be wrong for you to call on Israel to stop. You must equally justify all of Israel's actions against the Palestinians.

tctrills:

If you justify any action in war, then it would be wrong for you to call on Israel to stop. You must equally justify all of Israel's actions against the Palestinians.

Did you see me calling on Israel to stop, they should quench their thirst for war when both parties feel either satisfied, victory or defeat. Both side can’t be spoiling for war and I will be the one begging them to stop. No if war be the nutrient of statehood, they should fight on

elhakiimed:


I think you should ask yourself this same question. Those hamas were kids orphaned by Isreal over the decades. If your mum comes home that someone slapped her, by your logic we should blame your mum and you for getting angry about it (not to mention unalive the whole family).

What do you expect to read from the media controlled by the sponsors? It is called Dehumanization. You make people believe somepeople are no good, so whatever you do to them goes. The Us and Nato protect their interest in the Middle East by installing the apartheid state and fooling gullible people to waste innocent lives.

Osama bin laden and bad eggs like him were trained by this same US for terrorism, and NETANYAHU released millions of dollars to Hamas months before this current attack. Why?

You are obviously a kid pretending but again obviously blinded by religion and wish everyone think like you.. !!

You don't poke my eyes and still tell me how to respond...I would simply take your head off...this is war and gaza people asked for it and all is fair in war...!!

If you pray for rain then be prepared to deal with the mud..!!

Good luck to you and your gaza people...!!

AlexBells:

The actions of both sides are justified, it is war and anything can be a spoil

Since all us fair in war, stop crying for a ceasefire, stop calling d UN and int community to condemn Israel, stop calling for ceasefire, let them fight till either is subdued

Odibembem:


Since all us fair in war, stop crying for a ceasefire, stop calling d UN and int community to condemn Israel, stop calling for ceasefire, let them fight till either is subdued

Was I not the one that told the op to focus on his studies whats my business with their peace or no peace. Let’s deal with our own war here first

DeOTR:

I don't care about either of them, but those who failed to condemned what Hamas did on October 7 have no right to condemn Israel reaction to it.
I'd do anything to protect my own family against people who swore not to stop until I'm destroyed.
If the situation is reversed and Israel is the weaker side, most people will have different opinions. That's hypocrisy.

Who are the most people supporting Palestine? US govt support Isreal with billions of dollars yearly against people using stone as weapon. Haven't you learned anything from US historic international oppression? Palestine supporters are mostly human right activist and people with humanity, not govt and agencies.

tctrills:

If you truly believe that nobody deserves to die then you will understand why Hamas must be eliminated. They are agents of death.

Supporting Palestine doesn't necessarily mean supporting hamas. Hamas may have caused terror with the excuse that Isreal took their land, but it's only a fool who would believe it's not innocent people dying out there.

tctrills:

If you know your history you will understand better and no intelligent person has ever suggested that genocide is taking place in Ukraine.
You don't seem to know the meaning of genocide.
Lastly Israel was not found guilty of commiting genocide by the international court.

Because it's the same people benefiting from it. You think ICC would go against the interest of the US and the West?

ICC will continue to look away because your life doesn't matter as much to them.

At this rate, more countries will be bold to oppress weaker countries, so when your own peril come, we'll see how well they stand for you.

elhakiimed:


Because it's the same people benefiting from it. You think ICC would go against the interest of the US and the West?

ICC will continue to look away because your life doesn't matter as much to them.

At this rate, more countries will be bold to oppress weaker countries, so when your own peril come, we'll see how well they stand for you.

This is just conspiracy theory.
Now, no country has done more to improve the Israel/Palestine relationship than the US. The US has been behind every major peace deal. Without the US, Gaza would still be part of Israel. Also, the US is the biggest aid partner to the Palestinians by far but you guys would always blame them for everything.
Again what evidence do you have to prove genocide. First, do you even know the meaning of genocide?
Hope you know that war and genocide are not the same thing?
Again, it's not the ICC that's ignoring genocide but people like you who look away when Arabs are commiting genocide on blacks in Sudan or when fellow Muslims are committing genocide on the Kurds in Iraq, Syria, and Turkey.

elhakiimed:


Supporting Palestine doesn't necessarily mean supporting hamas. Hamas may have caused terror with the excuse that Isreal took their land, but it's only a fool who would believe it's not innocent people dying out there.

You are right, innocent people are dying but then, in every single war, innocent people die so what is your point?
Are you saying that the actions of Hamas should have no consequences?

tctrills:

You are right, innocent people are dying but then, in every single war, innocent people die so what is your point?
Are you saying that the actions of Hamas should have no consequences?

Should the actions of Boko haram have consequences in your house?

Every country has terrorists. You should try to put yourself in people's shoes before getting outraged about their grievances.

Except of course you think, just because someone is born arab means they deserve to burst in flame to death.

elhakiimed:


What if some random Chinese religion says their God has laid claim to Lagos state in Nigeria and we should accept it? Will they be justified?

If they told us this was their God, of course every Nigerian Christian will immediately submit in total unquestioning obedience to Him and to eternal Chinese rule. We will be eating fish head and noodle soup forever. Lagos girls will wear the worlds most wonderful weave and wigs.

We would be in Heaven!

elhakiimed:


Should the actions of Boko haram have consequences in your house?

Every country has terrorists. You should try to put yourself in people's shoes before getting outraged about their grievances.

Now you are getting it all wrong. The Nigerian army's job is to protect us from Boko Haram just as the IDF is to protect the people of Israel from Hamas.
On the other hand, Hamas which is the legal government of Gaza is supposed to protect the people of Gaza but their actions are exposing their own people to death. Blame all deaths on Hamas.

TrajansKong:


If they told us this was their God, of course every Nigerian Christian will immediately submit in total unquestioning obedience to Him and to eternal Chinese rule. We will be eating fish head and noodle soup forever. Lagos girls will wear the worlds most wonderful weave and wigs.

We would be in Heaven!

Apparently you don't even have the right facts or know your god. It's impossible for Jesus to be Blonde white.

And if a god can be dragged on the floor while he begs his father for the trial to pass him, then I'll tell you such god need God in their life.

elhakiimed:


Who are the most people supporting Palestine? US govt support Isreal with billions of dollars yearly against people using stone as weapon. Haven't you learned anything from US historic international oppression? Palestine supporters are mostly human right activist and people with humanity, not govt and agencies.

You lost 85% of Nigerian Christians with 'humanity'.

Not a known value.