oliverano:




Same spineless Bousquet abi Biscuit? You must be new to the main market!

Them plenty wey no rate Busquet for here ooo but that's not my p. I rate him very highly!

Agenda and fact na 2 different things

Even ibime go tell you say iniesta no sabi play ball

forgiveness:


I no rate that your fall and die ministry Busquets one bit. He nobi sabi pass make em fall.

You no need rate am bro

Anything Barcelona spoilt most of your growing up so I respect the hate

popizaino:



No watches Saka and come up with this. Funny enough this same you watched Havertz and saw world class.

Smh

You are being emotional here. I never called Havertz world class. I only identified him as a good player and hoped he will show consistency.

andrewbaba44:


Drogba that cannot average 1 goal in every 2 games as a striker won’t pass salah with Pk

palmer can win young players of the year ,but commot your mind for player of the year okay

Golden boot is possible but I don’t think Haaland is sleeping 😁

He actually average 1 goal in 2 games in 2009/10 season.

popizaino:


Ridiculous.

How will worldclass be tied to your ability to win trophies? You are ridiculous abeg.


Even in academics 75 is a Excellent and 68 is very good. If Saka is rated as excellent in every game what makes him not a world class player?

So let say you scored 95% in a given course and another person scored 100% to win the prize of the best student in that particular course, does the fact you didn't win the prize makes you less of an excellent in that particular course after scoring 95% ?

You and false equivalence. If you were a lawyer, you will lose all your cases and even get disbarred.

You can't have excellent ratings in every game and don't win major trophies. Reason is simple, no one is rated excellently (95%) in a game in which his team lost.

andrewbaba44:


Not taking anything away from Palmer but if you commot him pk how many goals go remain ? Commot Palmer 8 Abi 9 Pk I am sure he won’t be among epl top 15 goal scorers

Anyway Haaland should better watch his back sha because una boy is now fighting for the golden boot

Well as for drogba and salah ,if you remove pk salah still beat am for numbers

Why you go comot him PK, PK nor be goal or na because say na Chelsea player now, same thing Una don take hype Una favorite before. Una hypocrisy Dey smell. See your life for outside.

Trevor012:
Prime Xavi would struggle in this Luton team.

Proves the fact he's not world class but a system player.


Barkely>>>>>>Xavi

Shekpites are delusional. As if it's not the same City Palmer came from.

It is why Saka is not a worldclass player. He can't make the team better than Palmer has been doing.

andrewbaba44:


Not taking anything away from Palmer but if you commot him pk how many goals go remain ? Commot Palmer 8 Abi 9 Pk I am sure he won’t be among epl top 15 goal scorers

Anyway Haaland should better watch his back sha because una boy is now fighting for the golden boot

Well as for drogba and salah ,if you remove pk salah still beat am for numbers

PK denied England of winning euro but it doesn’t matter anymore because it’s Chelsea player now Abi. Lol

Vischy:


Kdb
Haaland
Rodri
Walker
Ruben dias

These players can function perfectly well in any team aside mancity.

So Saka would not?

popizaino:



You can't be twisting word to suit your own narrative. In one world,you have to have won trophy to be considered a world class and another breath,the team matters.


So today Tottenham doesn't have financial power to compete with big boys but when you were rubbishing Pochettino's Tottenham performance you forgot this financial power. Colour me double standard.

Maybe leceister city had the financial power when they won the league.

If you can't defend your ridiculous points then Harry kane is not a worldclass player according to your own criteria.

You are ridiculous. My opinion is self exploratory to those with an open mind. My initial statement said "As long as the player plays for a team capable of challenging for major trophies ".

Kane didn't fall into this category by virtue of playing for Spurs until this season.

Trevor012:
Prime Xavi would struggle in this Luton team.

Proves the fact he's not world class but a system player.


Barkely>>>>>>Xavi

Shekpites are delusional. As if it's not the same City Palmer came from.

Of course prime Xavi will struggle playing for Luton sighting that the players that will be around him will be average.

swiz123:


On the contrary, when I watch him, I see nothing. He has no natural winger's flair, not good at passing and poor shooting ability. His first touch is not even tidy sef.
I don't see him make defence splitting passes or create something out of nothing. Only plays to the manager's instruction. So when you checkmate the manager, he becomes useless.

Smh!

Saka is the opposite of everything you have observed so far. I am certain you have only been watching a different player.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV-NxiIWAAQ?si=JewYCSXXOz7ytD25

hensben:
PK denied England of winning euro but it doesn’t matter anymore because it’s Chelsea player now Abi. Lol

I no get problem with penalty baba ,I no be Ronaldo fans

If sterling was your pk taker you will be on position 18th ,so kudos to Palmer for stepping up

hensben:
He actually average 1 goal in 2 games in 2009/10 season.

Maybe the only time in his career ? Lmao

swiz123:


I don't like engaging in fruitless discourse. That a team win trophies doesn't make all their players world class please. But for a player who has maintained consistent level of high Performance over years and has trophies to show is a worldclass player.

Has Folden shown consistent level of high performance over the years? No. Does he have the potential to? Yes. When did Folden become a guaranteed starter sef?

Haaland has shown consistency in front of goal even before coming to City and when he joined City which is a competitive team, he now has trophies to show. Of course, he has proven himself to be a world class player.

Jorginho reached a very high peak in football and has an Euro and UCL, UEFA player of the year and nearly won a balon d'or. If that is not world class, then I don't know what is.

So What happened to Harry Kane, what trophy does he have to show for this is consistent performance?

swiz123:


He showed consistency in his role which earned him a move to Chelsea. When he competed with a good manager, he showed the world what he can do.

So Saka hasn't showed consistency in his role at Arsenal ?

Jodera:

Na this one muse me pass.

Truly success get many fathers.

But if na your scout ID, I believe you die. Na from Greenwood matter I really believe your ministry

doc has always believed in palmer.

Jodera:

Yeah, but I was talking about that first goal (by Garnacho).
You guys defence are just poorly organised.
No leader, no communicator.

Sha, Na Oga Raum.deuter dem dey follow. Just engage and don't point or communicate

People no sabi play ball you say na leader dem miss

When Leader Buhari plus Nokia communicator Silva was there last season which position Chelsea finish?

swiz123:


Your argument is so easy to tear apart. But you can be forgiven for not reading along to where I made a clearer definition of a world class player.

Two key words define a world class player, consistency in performance overtime and trophies to show for it. As long as one plays for a competitive club, he has to be consistent and also win major trophies to be regarded as world class.

So go back to your argument and educate yourself.

What was Micheal Ballack trophy with Bayern Leverkusen before being awarded Uefa midfielder of the year in 2002?

And again, how come Harry Kane doesn't fit in your world class criteria?.

Jodera:

I believe you guys lack leaders in that defence area. No communication in defence, no communication in midfield and this makes the structure to be haphazard.

If you guys buy defenders that aren't leaders, same problem will still persist. E be like say nobody wan take responsibility for that defence area

What is leader in defence? Did Arsenal sign Gabriel or Saliba because of leadership conference they got first class in? For all you care Gabriel and Saliba might not even speak English when they first got to Arsenal but we immediately saw the improvement

Defence is a doing act not by point.

Its show not tell

Jodera:
Everyone knows Jorginho getting all those accolades is due to his team winning those competitions and him being a starter.

Was he the top 3 or top 5 player in Chelsea in their ucl win or league performances? Definitely not

Was he the top 3 performers in their euro win? No oo.

Can you name the top 3 performer for Italy when they won the Euro

swiz123:


So because Saka won a penalty against France, that makes his performance on that day better than every Palmer's compilation this season? Shocking claim!

Yes,the stake to perform in that kind of match is greater than any match Palmer has had to play in .

swiz123:

Your argument is exhausting because you draw the most absurd false equivalence to defend your claim.
Ronaldo who already won a world cup, Copa America, Top scored in la Liga, and won a balon d'or before 1998 world cup is who you are asking me about. He had consistency and major trophies to make him a world class player.

For someone whose first contact with football was 1998 world cup will have to go back to Ronaldo's club football games in 1997,1996 to confirm if he is a worldclass abi?

swiz123:

You will look for another player and drag this argument to eternity. I can't be responding to weak arguments.

Answer us on Harry Kane and Ballack before talking about weak argument.

nihilistjnr:


You're making the argument for Airmark sef

You can see that when you remove Palmer's contribution from the equation, Chelsea's attacking input has been largely stagnant.

Our most productive attacker last season had 9 G+A in the league. This season the same Sterling has 10 G+A in the league.

Jackson is a like for like match with Havertz from last year, with a minor improvement in output.

Palmer alone has more EPL goals than Jackson and Sterling combined. He has more EPL goals than Noni + Mudryk +Nkunku + Sterling combined.

Cole Palmer has 16 goals on his own. Noni, Mudryk, Nkunku, Sterling, and Gallagher have a combined 17 goals between them.

It shows you that the so called attack that is OK, is really just Cole Palmer.

But when you realise that 8 of those 16 goals are from the penalty spot, and 1 of the remaining 8 was a deflected 'almost own goal', then it begs the question around how really good our attacking saviour is.

Mind you, i'm not saying that Palmer isn't excellent - he is. But if you're making an argument that Chelseas attack is ok, because Palmer is carrying it...most commonly through uncontested shots on goal awarded by the referee's whistle, then that argument is fundamentally weak in my opinion.

You've not answered my question.

Even Sans Palmer's Output, compare our goals scored this season and last, and compare the goals conceded.

You've already put the players goals and assists side By side. Even minus Palmer, see how the top performers are doing.

Now do the same for the defence.

hensben:
Of course prime Xavi will struggle playing for Luton sighting that the players that will be around him will be average.

Barkely >>>>>> prime Xavi

Trevor012:

Barkely >>>>>> prime Xavi

So you think if Xavi is playing for Luton you will even see him not to talk of rating him.

andrewbaba44:


Maybe the only time in his career ? Lmao

So you are not even sure of what you are saying.

andrewbaba44:


I no get problem with penalty baba ,I no be Ronaldo fans

If sterling was your pk taker you will be on position 18th ,so kudos to Palmer for stepping up

Good. Now you know why Palmer is been hailed.

swiz123:


Kane's longevity makes him world class player especially, considering the fact that he was playing for a weak spurs.

Even if he doesn't win a trophy with Bayern, you can trust him to remain consistent and win it next season.

Today Spurs is weak according to you but when it was to castigate Pochettino's time at spurs,that's when you will remember that they were a world class team.

So far Harry Kane hasn't won a trophy be it with either spurs or bayern munich, then he shouldn't be classified as a worldclass, at least according to you.

hensben:
So you think if Xavi is playing for Luton you will even see him not to talk of rating him.

Stop typing shalaye. Barkely >>>>>> Xavi. Xavi is just a system player like Saka. Ask Vishy

popizaino:





It is why Saka is not a worldclass player. He can't make the team better than Palmer has been doing.

We are about to have a Trent and reece situation from popi again 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

Trevor012:

Stop typing shalaye. Barkely >>>>>> Xavi. Xavi is just a system player like Saka. Ask Vishy

Yes Barkley>>Xavi as a Luton player. You’re technically right.

Unlimited22:

You've not answered my question.

You haven't asked me any question.

You said, and I quote

Unlimited22:

Look at our top goalscorers and top assisters list now and compare to last season.

Which I literally did.

Last season our top 5 goal scorers in the league scored a combined 23 EPL goals.

This season, when you remove Palmer's goals, the combined next top 5 scorers in the league have produced a combined 25 EPL goals.

Nicolas Jackson, the next highest goal scorer in our team has 9 goals. Cole Palmer assisted 4 of those. Not only is Ice Cold carrying the goal burden for this club, he is also responsible for spoon feeding half of the next guy's goal output.

If there's a point you're trying to make, I think you should take a facts based, stats based position, and then make your argument.

Attempting to socialise Big Brr's contribution this season is a foul. Ice Cold is carrying this team solo.

If you remove Palmer's G+A, this team is in a relegation battle ...facts.

BTW, we scored 38 goals last season. We have 53 goals this season. That's a 15 goal margin...that's a Cole sized gap.