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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 4:28pm On Apr 05
airmark:



The two major things Pochettino did well in the attack yesterday that gave us the win, he benched your Sterling and brought in Chukwuemeka and Madueke to boost the attack. This is a temporary fix until summer when we do a permanent surgical operation on the attack by chasing your useless Sterling away, and get Jackson's upgrade to bang in goals.

For the umpteenth time, you win matches by outscoring your opponents. Kudos to Palmer, Madueke, Chukwuemeka, Mudryk and Pochettino for shaming you, despite the disasters at the back.


Pochettino benched Sterling against Burnley. What happened?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 4:31pm On Apr 05
airmark:



The two major things Pochettino did well in the attack yesterday that gave us the win, he benched your Sterling and brought in Chukwuemeka and Madueke to boost the attack. This is a temporary fix until summer when we do a permanent surgical operation on the attack by chasing your useless Sterling away, and get Jackson's upgrade to bang in goals.

For the umpteenth time, you win matches by outscoring your opponents. Kudos to Palmer, Madueke, Chukwuemeka, Mudryk and Pochettino for shaming you, despite the disasters at the back.


Pochettino benched Sterling against Burnley. What happened?

@bolded.... At least you are seeing our defence for what it is now. You have now seen the light. It's not just "fix the attack. Period". Try educate your boy Popizaino too.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 4:33pm On Apr 05
oliverano:


Players like Carrick, Busquet, Jorginho are not always rated highly by fans but by their team mates and managers.

Jorginho has declined no doubt but he was a world class player by all metric. You don't win Euros, UCL, UEFA best player and finish 3rd in balondor by luck, never!!!

I think Pep wanted him to be his DM at a point but that's not really where I'm driving at...

My point is this, the fact that those playing with him, coaching him and the UEFA technical team suggest he was the best at a point, then he did alot right.

Is he currently world class? No. Was he world class definitely yes!!!

You don't get all those accolades by luck at this level!

Hmm I'll beg to differ on Jorginho.

At best he was a very good player. A single stellar season does not make you world class. Even in the so-called stellar season, no one who watched Jorgi during the Chelsea UCL and Italy Euro campaign thought in real time that they were watching a potential world best player. It was more of an afterthought at season end that wait a minute, Jorginho is a common factor in both winning campaigns so he must be so, so and so. And after that season, he never truly won fans hearts with his displays both in club and country.

For context, Victor Osimhen is not considered world class despite a stellar last season. David Beckham despite ending up on the world best podium on 2 occasions was considered not world-class by Fergie (though I disagree personally cos Beckham was one of the most impactful midfielders in the world between 98/99 to March 2002 when that Deportivo player broke his leg) but this is just to illustrate that just being very good doesnt automatically make you world class.

To be world class is to show consistently high levels of quality both on the easy and toughest stages over a long time regardless of trophies (although they are an added advantage). This is why Harry Kane and Son are considered World class.

We have world class talents from young ages though, like Owen, Rooney, Pato, Robinho, Bellingham, Neymar, Mbappe, Rice, Mikel Obi. Not all of them went on to seal their world class status though. Foden has world class talent, however time will tell whether he progresses this into a bona-fide world beater. Personally, I think he's almost there and by next season if he replicates this level, his world class status will not be in doubt.

Saka is still not yet world class. Same as Palmer and Rodrygo. They are just very good players.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 4:41pm On Apr 05
8 mentions from Popizaino and they are all incoherent. I wonder how all those meaningless mentions negates what I said.

A player who plays for a competitive club capable of challenging for major trophies must show consistent high performance and win trophies for his team.

Kane has shown consistent level of high performance for more than 10 years and can be excused for not winning trophies due to not playing for a big team. Obviously, if he played for a big team all these years, he would have had enough trophies.

Same Ballack who has won multiple trophies with Bayern and also won the EPL with Chelsea? Is that not a testament to my claim that world class players win trophies with their competitive teams?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:43pm On Apr 05
airmark:



The two major things Pochettino did well in the attack yesterday that gave us the win, he benched your Sterling and brought in Chukwuemeka and Madueke to boost the attack.


Didn't Poch bring in Sterling Chukwuemeka and Madueke at the same time
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:43pm On Apr 05
timbros:


Pochettino benched Sterling against Burnley. What happened?

@bolded.... At least you are seeing our defence for what it is now. You have now seen the light. It's not just "fix the attack. Period". Try educate your boy Popizaino too.

And against Burnley, your useless Sterling later came to waste the biggest chance to win it at 2-2, to Palmer's dismay. Boy had to voice out.

The introduction of Madueke and Chukwuemeka yesterday completed the job as it created overload on Scummies and they cracked.

Pochettino did what we asked for temporarily and our attack outscored United despite our disasters at the back. By summer, we should sack your Sterling permanently.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:44pm On Apr 05
airmark:


And against Burnley, Sterling later came to waste the biggest chance to win at at 2-2, to Palmer's dismay. The introduction of Madueke and Chukwuemeka yesterday completed the job as it created overload on Scummies.

Pochettino did what we asked for temporarily and our attack outscored United despite our disasters at the back. By summer, we should sack your Sterling permanently.

The goal Palmer scored vs Burnley who gave the assist?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by michigang: 4:45pm On Apr 05
airmark:



The two major things Pochettino did well in the attack yesterday that gave us the win, he benched your Sterling and brought in Chukwuemeka and Madueke to boost the attack. This is a temporary fix until summer when we do a permanent surgical operation on the attack by chasing your useless Sterling away, and get Jackson's upgrade to bang in goals.

For the umpteenth time, you win matches by outscoring your opponents. Kudos to Palmer, Madueke, Chukwuemeka, Mudryk and Pochettino for shaming you, despite the disasters at the back.

get away. You won by two dubious penalties and still you have the temerity to talk. You should be ashame of yourself as a fan of chelsea that cannot throw passes effectively. Raumdeuter, jodera come and reset him
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:47pm On Apr 05
raumdeuter:


The goal Palmer scored vs Burnley who gave the assist?

I can't remember maybe it was just an ordinary one-touch assist.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:50pm On Apr 05
michigang:
get away. You won by two dubious penalties and still you have the temerity to talk. You should be ashame of yourself as a fan of chelsea that cannot throw passes effectively. Raumdeuter, jodera come and reset him

Timbros, you see as they are even mocking our goals.

Don't worry, we will fix our attack permanently by summer and start scoring better goals, maybe it will take your pains away.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 4:51pm On Apr 05
airmark:


And against Burnley, Sterling later came to waste the biggest chance to win at at 2-2, to Palmer's dismay. The introduction of Madueke and Chukwuemeka yesterday completed the job as it created overload on Scummies.

Pochettino did what we asked for temporarily and our attack outscored United despite our disasters at the back. By summer, we should sack your Sterling permanently.

I don't understand how this isn't clear.

Highest goal scorer- Palmer
Highest assister - Palmer
Highest big chances created - Palmer
Highest shots per game - Palmer
Highest shot accuracy per game - Palmer.
Highest throughball per game - Palmer

How is one man both the only finisher and only creator in the same team, when we're not Kane Era Tottenham?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:53pm On Apr 05
raumdeuter:


Didn't Poch bring in Sterling Chukwuemeka and Madueke at the same time

Sterling was useless. We saw Chukwuemeka and Madueke's impacts, while Sterling was doing shakushaku and losing possessions.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by michigang: 4:54pm On Apr 05
Jodera:

Like I said, it up to the coach not to call him.

Shebi if coach no wan call am, him go force himself enter camp?

Stop making this thing about Ronaldo. Nobody tells a player to retire. He only retires when he wants to
he should retire. His time is overdue. You fools will not say the truth becos of your high regard of ronaldo
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:56pm On Apr 05
nihilistjnr:


I don't understand how this isn't clear.

Highest goal scorer- Palmer
Highest assister - Palmer
Highest big chances created - Palmer
Highest shots per game - Palmer
Highest shot accuracy per game - Palmer.
Highest throughball per game - Palmer

How is one man both the only finisher and only creator in the same team, when we're not Kane Era Tottenham?

We are Palmer fc.

The prayer is for Palmer not to get injured. Injured, that's when they will understand that without Palmer our attack is not better than Sheffield's.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 4:58pm On Apr 05
Reception Mount got yesterday shows he wasn't forced out of the club. The players and the fans, nobody likes him
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by michigang: 5:06pm On Apr 05
Ballzproblem2:
true
why is palmer on the right and gallagher in the center
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by michigang: 5:10pm On Apr 05
popizaino:



Keep that respect, i don't need your confirmation on what i know about myself. So carry along are also worldclass player by virtue of being fortunate to be in a winning team right?

Maybe the last time Assnal had a worldclass player is when they last won the golden epl according to your nauseating logic.


Every Greece
dont mind the møron
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 5:15pm On Apr 05
timbros:


Oga your take is the shocking one.

When did Makelele played CAM for Chelsea?

The same Makelele that has a position named after him?

Makelele was a CAM for Nantes

Drove them to UCL semi in 1995

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:16pm On Apr 05
swiz123:
8 mentions from Popizaino and they are all incoherent. I wonder how all those meaningless mentions negates what I said.

A player who plays for a competitive club capable of challenging for major trophies must show consistent high performance and win trophies for his team.

Kane has shown consistent level of high performance for more than 10 years and can be excused for not winning trophies due to not playing for a big team. Obviously, if he played for a big team all these years, he would have had enough trophies.

Same Ballack who has won multiple trophies with Bayern and also won the EPL with Chelsea? Is that not a testament to my claim that world class players win trophies with their competitive teams?

What trophy did Ballack win prior to being named the uefa midfielder of the year in 2002?


Where is Harry kane's trophy to be classified as a world class and don't give me your own cock and bull excuse of not so big team because that's why there is europa,FA cup....if big teams are to win the major ones before we can categorise their players as world class then small teams also need to win the minor ones like europa and Fa Cup. Thus where is Harry Kane's trophy with spurs?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by rooftops: 5:19pm On Apr 05
Jodera:


Defence failure and organisation.

You guys were up 2-nil and guys here were already saying the defence will concede, yet they didn't just concede one but 3.

Who even gave that backpass to Garnacho?
Was it not Caicedo (a DM) if I'm not mistaken?

Since Silva wasn't available, you guys have been conceding goals like water. I believe it wouldn't have been this worse if he's present


Forget all these ones that's saying defenders shouldn't point? Na wetin dey cause all these kind goals yet you'll find out not one Defender is at fault (yet goals go dey enter)

Like guy, no single communication between those two central defenders. They will have you think one is Serbian and the other one from from south America not knowing both of them are french but they can't even communicate with one and other.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 5:23pm On Apr 05
User09:


Only you and his critics think this.

We have had the extensive argument on here sometime back, you can go back and check the thread.

They tried to give the Italy accolade to Verratti, the argument was torn apart, Ditto, Kante.

No need rewriting history.

Thunder go fire you for this statement in bold

Is there any Chelsea fan that doesn't know Kante was far and above the player of our UCL run. His MOTM in every game confirms it

Nobody gave Verratti the most accolade. italy won by penalties in semi and final and the accolade rightly went to their goalkeeper. Donnaruma was player of the tournament confirmed by UEFA while Kante was player of the tournament for UCL.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:30pm On Apr 05
So prior to when Spain won the Euro in 2008,Cesc Fabregas wasn't a worldclass midfielder because he doesn't have a trophy to show for it with Arsenal grin grin grin

Danielle De Rossi is not a worldclass because he didn't win a major trophy with AS Roma.


Ridiculous!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 5:32pm On Apr 05
raumdeuter:


What is leader in defence? Did Arsenal sign Gabriel or Saliba because of leadership conference they got first class in? For all you care Gabriel and Saliba might not even speak English when they first got to Arsenal but we immediately saw the improvement

Defence is a doing act not by point.

Its show not tell

Gabriel is a natural leader

In Arsenal, Odegaard is the captain but Gabriel lead all the team talks
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:38pm On Apr 05
drisham:

We are about to have a Trent and reece situation from popi again 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️


grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:50pm On Apr 05
Truth don Dey come out small small. Even in numbers Bellingham nor pass Palmer. If England know what’s good for them Palmer should be coming from Bench since na by who first get called up South Gate wan Dey use.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AdisaOwala: 5:55pm On Apr 05
raumdeuter:


Can you name the top 3 performer for Italy when they won the Euro

This topic has been trashed out on numerous occasions - Jorgihno was was of the best players at the tourney.

He even bossed the final
cool

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 6:13pm On Apr 05
nihilistjnr:


You haven't asked me any question.

You said, and I quote



Which I literally did.

Last season our top 5 goal scorers in the league scored a combined 23 EPL goals.

This season, when you remove Palmer's goals, the combined next top 5 scorers in the league have produced a combined 25 EPL goals.

Nicolas Jackson, the next highest goal scorer in our team has 9 goals. Cole Palmer assisted 4 of those. Not only is Ice Cold carrying the goal burden for this club, he is also responsible for spoon feeding half of the next guy's goal output.

If there's a point you're trying to make, I think you should take a facts based, stats based position, and then make your argument.

Attempting to socialise Big Brr's contribution this season is a foul. Ice Cold is carrying this team solo.

If you remove Palmer's G+A, this team is in a relegation battle ...facts.

BTW, we scored 38 goals last season. We have 53 goals this season. That's a 15 goal margin...that's a Cole sized gap.
You still haven't answered my question.

How many goals did we concede last season and how many have we conceded this season?

Palmer this and that like say no be e work e dey do
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:16pm On Apr 05
airmark:


I can't remember maybe it was just an ordinary one-touch assist.

That's why you should watch games

How many touches does it take to make an assist or score a goal? 15 touches
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by homosapien(m): 6:16pm On Apr 05
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 6:23pm On Apr 05
michigang:
why is palmer on the right and gallagher in the center
cause poch like player that can run like headless chicken that's why,if we had a technical coach Gallagher would be on the bench
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vischy: 6:23pm On Apr 05
popizaino:
So prior to when Spain won the Euro in 2008,Cesc Fabregas wasn't a worldclass midfielder because he doesn't have a trophy to show for it with Arsenal grin grin grin

Danielle De Rossi is not a worldclass because he didn't win a major trophy with AS Roma.


Ridiculous!

I guess you didn't see where he said performing consistently makes one a world class player even without be opportuned with trophies...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 6:27pm On Apr 05
Elnino4ladies:
Reception Mount got yesterday shows he wasn't forced out of the club. The players and the fans, nobody likes him
as much as I hate mount he was disrespected here imo,still it doesn't justify him joining our rivals.


imagine if you have been working for a particular company for years time for pay rise your director or whoever is in charge started dragging their feet.

meanwhile they're splashing huge fee and wages on new recruits , you will feel disrespected no matter what.

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