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Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by nlreserve: 5:59pm On Apr 05
helinues:


South Africa electricity that have collapsed for quite some time now. There electricity situation could be worst than Nigeria own currently

We want stable electricity, give us light yhen yehn yehn, then we will take care of ourselves.

Now they have given us the electricity rate, we have started compare and contrast..

How much do we spend on Owambe's religious activities compared to the new electricity tarrif?

We are not ready for stable electricity in Nigeria
See them agents here. They're talking about minimum wage and tarrif, this one is talking about owambe, all in a bid to defend the agberos in asorock grin

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Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Kukutente23: 5:59pm On Apr 05
loffyloffy:


Except that electricity in Nigeria is N225 for only 15% of the population...while the remaining 85% pays N68.

Also in Calgary your cost goes up as your consumption goes up..they use a band system where your cost rises based on some predetermined threshold. You also pay administrative and distribution fees that are sometimes even as high as your electric bill..when you factor all this your actual cost per kwh will be double or more what is quoted.

Another important fact that you are ignorantly forgetting is the maturity of the industry producing the electricity. In south africa and Calgary that you quoted,the infrastruction for production and distribution are already in place, so their income goes towards running cost and maintainace. Nobody steals or vandalise their equipment as is is regularly the case in Nigeria. The cost of production and distribution in Nigeria is very high, and electricity prices where highly subsidised by the govt.

Why not look at it this way..for everyone that is paying N68 which is 85% of the subscribers, the discos are loosing a significant amount of money which they could have made if they can only supply power for up to 20hrs a day.

To increase there income they will have to increase the number of subscribers that will access to 20hrs a day, so they will have to invest significantly to improve power delivery.

As the volume of people getting 20hrs a day increases, an equilibrium point will be reached on pricing, as the burden of generating and distributing will now be more evenly shared.

Yes I do agree that the minimum wage in Nigeria is too low, but am sure the government will address this soon enough.
There are also a lot of variables that favour the Discos in Nigeria that do not occur in Canada. In Calgary, nobody pays for transformer installation and repairs of fault. Also, there is no one on estimated billing and the power consumption for residential areas is not billed as same with industrial areas.
While I agree only 15% is to be captured in principle, if you look at the average monthly rate that N225 amounts to vis a vis the minimum wage, you will see a huge distortion. At the rate of a unit per hour consumption, the average customer will spend N135k on electricity a month with the minimum wage at 30k. Even if the minimum wage is increased, do you seriously believe it will be increased to such a point that someone on minimum wage will be able to afford to spend N135k on electricity?
When you add the cost of transport and food that;s been going out of range lately, you will realize that most of these things being pilled on Nigerians are not realistic.
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Believeintruth: 5:59pm On Apr 05
004gist:

I believe the cost of electricity is heavily subsidized in those countries.


Since I travelled I have learnt not to insult the Nigeria state no matter what rather the insult should be directed to the leaders especially APC.

They came and destroyed our naira. Before this 30k minimum wage could buy 4 bags of foreign rice @ 2014 not very long now 4 bags in 2024 320.

Minimum wage 30k = 4 bags of rice in 2014
4 bags of rice 2024= 320k
South African minimum wage = 312k

Meaning that the purchase power of naira in 2014 was even higher than south Africans m.wage


In 2013/2014 corpers posted for NYSC service that received 30k alawee came back with savings of 250k with it they started business. Some even travelled to Cotonou to start importing goods

But today 30k no even fit reach 6 days e don finish


It shall never be well with APC



Bros that your analogy with SA makes no sense at all. What is purchasing power of an average south African what is their CPI and what is their income per capita compared to Nigeria. You guys should stop defending rubbish.

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Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Believeintruth: 6:01pm On Apr 05
djseanjohn77:


Most of you just jump on every thread....while most of you do not even belong in the cat A who are going to be paying the new tariff. I thought most of you do not enjoy the power, why complain....This shid be for people who enjoys 20hrs daily

Do you enjoy 20hrs?
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by TUANKU(m): 6:02pm On Apr 05
descarado:

Seriously.
Why am I surprised anyway.
They even offered me the same package if am willing to pay them monthly. They gave me a phone number to call whenever am ready to go rogue cheesy
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Believeintruth: 6:02pm On Apr 05
KennethOkonkwo:

You mean you warn us to vote for this man below to be able to get it done

You guys don't have sense at all. This stale picture is that you are still using for propaganda so ething that has been clarified inside out. Oga look for something that can stick not this rubbish you are doing.
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Ikaeniyan0: 6:02pm On Apr 05
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by dododawa1: 6:02pm On Apr 05
Isheri Osun ijegun lkotun ijedodo and ABARANJE


Den of DARKNESS
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Believeintruth: 6:03pm On Apr 05
KennethOkonkwo:

You mean you warn us to vote for this packaged fraudulent man below to be able to get it at 1N per 300KW.

Or so that he can distribute money for us to be able to pay

Oga this propaganda is stale. Try and have small sense for once. This has been debunked even before election why repeat the same propaganda? You sound more like a broken record without any iota of sense.
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Believeintruth: 6:05pm On Apr 05
deji17:
This one forgot to add housing cost and cost of living in Canada and Ghana , our neighbour grin
Anything to blackmail the country.
You want good things , but you don't want to pay for it.
The subsidy has gone on for too long that people now feel entitled.
If car cost has been subsidized, I'm sure some will be making a comparison like this.
Again, these are the same people that will deny ever getting anything from Nigeria, yet they don't want the subsidy removed.

Oga you are a very wicked man. You want to use high cost of housing in Canada to justify the bull shit this Nigerian government is doing. And who told you advanced nations do not provide some form of subsidy. In Dublin there is transportation subsidy even in UK there is some form of energy subsidy. Make una fear God in supporting rubbish. This is the height of selfishness. God will strike you down one day.

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Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by geewean(m): 6:06pm On Apr 05
It's obvious that you are one of the fundamental problems of Nigeria.I am sure where you live is not within Band A to F.So you won't understand the implications of the charges.There are houses in Lekki phase one that pay 1.5 million a month for electricity in the former regime.Only God knows how much.


A comparison is done why not counter the data with factual points instead to throw accusing fingers just to defend your principal.





helinues:


South Africa electricity that have collapsed for quite some time now. There electricity situation could be worst than Nigeria own currently

We want stable electricity, give us light yhen yehn yehn, then we will take care of ourselves.

Now they have given us the electricity rate, we have started compare and contrast..

How much do we spend on Owambe's religious activities compared to the new electricity tarrif?

We are not ready for stable electricity in Nigeria
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by nedu666: 6:07pm On Apr 05
helinues:


South Africa electricity that have collapsed for quite some time now. There electricity situation could be worst than Nigeria own currently

We want stable electricity, give us light yhen yehn yehn, then we will take care of ourselves.

Now they have given us the electricity rate, we have started compare and contrast..

How much do we spend on Owambe's religious activities compared to the new electricity tarrif?

We are not ready for stable electricity in Nigeria

U mean 56 million people using 50gw is worse than 200 million people using 5gw

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Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by michlins(m): 6:07pm On Apr 05
Ikaeniyan0:
I'm using a prepaid meter, so far the power supply is regular, I don't mind.
I'm very certain that you can not afford it
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by ttobizz(m): 6:13pm On Apr 05
helinues:


South Africa electricity that have collapsed for quite some time now. There electricity situation could be worst than Nigeria own currently

We want stable electricity, give us light yhen yehn yehn, then we will take care of ourselves.

Now they have given us the electricity rate, we have started compare and contrast..

How much do we spend on Owambe's religious activities compared to the new electricity tarrif?

We are not ready for stable electricity in Nigeria

Have you lost it?

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Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Chuks0485: 6:14pm On Apr 05
helinues:


Better for the charges to be high at the beginning while they rake something from it to improve their service than charge less and provide poor service .

With more clients, the rate will drop
The same way it is better to commission an unfinished project such as Aba Power and Dangote refinery , then after commissioning they will now complete it? The way we reason in this Nigeria ehh! It is well.


Why charge for what u don't have talk more of supplying?

The most annoying part is Nigeria selling electricity to neighbouring country when the masses are not having same.
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by 004gist: 6:14pm On Apr 05
Believeintruth:


Bros that your analogy with SA makes no sense at all. What is purchasing power of an average south African what is their CPI and what is their income per capita compared to Nigeria. You guys should stop defending rubbish.

What do u understand I wrote
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by ochiosa(m): 6:15pm On Apr 05
Let the government first make the investment on electricity,provide the infrastructures before increasing tariff not collecting money from customers to make investment. That's climbing the tree from the top.
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Omalicious1: 6:16pm On Apr 05
Omooba77:


Source: Arewa

There was a country
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Rolings: 6:16pm On Apr 05
psucc:
When some of us warned, we were tagged and called names. Now it has dawn on us all. Don't bother, this is just test run. When fully implemented we will know.

Was whoever you supported going to pay a minimum wage of 300k?

We warned ko
We waned ni
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Slytiger: 6:18pm On Apr 05
Kukutente23:

There are also a lot of variables that favour the Discos in Nigeria that do not occur in Canada. In Calgary, nobody pays for transformer installation and repairs of fault.
Also, there is no one on estimated billing and the power consumption for residential areas is not billed as same with industrial areas.

While I agree only 15% is to be captured in principle, if you look at the average monthly rate that N225 amounts to vis a vis the minimum wage, you will see a huge distortion. At the rate of a unit per hour consumption, the average customer will spend N135k on electricity a month with the minimum wage at 30k. Even if the minimum wage is increased, do you seriously believe it will be increased to such a point that someone on minimum wage will be able to afford to spend N135k on electricity?
When you add the cost of transport and food that;s been going out of range lately, you will realize that most of these things being pilled on Nigerians are not realistic.
The bolded is not factual. People pay for transformer install. The developers would have paid for it when the subdivision or condo, or whatever type of housing is being built. People also living on outskirt of the city pay for individual installation, but no one pays for repair.
Bills are estimated as well but they adjust once a reading is obtained.
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Slytiger: 6:19pm On Apr 05
ochiosa:
Let the government first make the investment on electricity,provide the infrastructures before increasing tariff not collecting money from customers to make investment. That's climbing the tree from the top.
Discos are now being run by private company..

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Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Spuggie: 6:23pm On Apr 05
allthingsgood:


You are comparuing Nigeria to countries with advanced power supply. Nigeria is expensive because demand is high while supply is low. Its simple economics. The more attractive our power sector is, the more generation and supply and the less we will pay. Also lets not forget that many nigeria bypass power leading to more loss.


So let the authorities do their job.
It seems the lawful citizens are being punished for the inefficiency of the security agencies to clamp down on those bypassing the meter.
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by VanuatuWycombe: 6:25pm On Apr 05
This your comparison can’t fly at all.

It’s a layman’s comparison. You can ask economists and sociologists.

I don’t want to say more than that because this is like comparing a walnut to Apple.
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by VanuatuWycombe: 6:25pm On Apr 05
Goodvibes007:
Why are people comparing minimum wages lol.
Would Nigerians pay equivalent of 1800 dollars a month for rent in Nigeria?

In addition, as per Calgary or anywhere in North America, OP is trying to play smart. What about all the other charges that get added into your bill. Like the basic charge of $30 added to the bill monthly irrespective of whether you use the power or not.

Don’t mind him.

There’s economy of scale out there which put them at an advantage of mass-producing (electricity and its derivatives) at more cheaper prices.

He could have compared Nigeria with a similar country that has similar economic indices.


Assuming he is writing this on a research for a supervisor, he would have thought he had carried out a good research.
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Slytiger: 6:26pm On Apr 05
Spuggie:



So let the authorities do their job.
It seems the lawful citizens are being punished for the inefficiency of the security agencies to clamp down on those bypassing the meter.
The only people that can detect stealing is the disco themselves. They may need to operate an anti stealing department, and government law enforcement needs to come hard on those stealing power, like 10 years imprisonment for a start.

The below is from South Africa.

Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Emaprince: 6:29pm On Apr 05
Amigoss:
It doesn't matter as far as Obidients are taught a lesson wink
grin
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by deji17: 6:29pm On Apr 05
Believeintruth:


Oga you are a very wicked man. You want to use high cost of housing in Canada to justify the bull shit this Nigerian government is doing. And who told you advanced nations do not provide some form of subsidy. In Dublin there is transportation subsidy even in UK there is some form of energy subsidy. Make una fear God in supporting rubbish. This is the height of selfishness. God will strike you down one day.
Apart from this emotional blackmail that some Nigerians are known for, what is the sense in this? Is Dublin subsidizing their Education, healthcare and other things too? You get many Public services almost for free, yet to pay for it will result into abuses, curses etc as if abuses and curses will provide necessary development.
The increase in electric tariff only affects a certain category called Tier A...

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Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Kukutente23: 6:31pm On Apr 05
Slytiger:

The bolded is not factual. People pay for transformer install. The developers would have paid for it when the subdivision or condo, or whatever type of housing is being built. People also living on outskirt of the city pay for individual installation, but no one pays for repair.
Bills are estimated as well but they adjust once a reading is obtained.
Which people buy and pay for transformer installation in Canada? Cause what we're discussing is individuals like we have in Nigeria not estate developers.
Stop mixing things up. No one buys and installs transformers in Canada
Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Slytiger: 6:31pm On Apr 05
deji17:

Apart from this emotional blackmail that some Nigerians are known for, what is the sense in this? Is Dublin subsidizing their Education, healthcare and other things too? You get many Public services almost for free, yet to pay for it will result into abuses, curses etc as if abuses and curses will provide necessary development.
The increase in electric tariff only affects a certain category called Tier A...
Even transport being subsidized that he talked about would likely be for the extremely poor people in the society, and they would still pay a significant amount.

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Re: Electricity In KWH & Minimum Wage In Nigeria, South Africa & Calgary, Canada by Slytiger: 6:32pm On Apr 05
Kukutente23:

Which people buy and pay for transformer installation in Canada? Cause what we're discussing is individuals like we have in Nigeria not estate developers.
Stop mixing things up. No one buys and installs transformers in Canada
Guy. I worked in this industry and currently working in it but in capital projects in that same Canada. People pay via new connect or customer connect services. Because you just moved into a home already built does not mean the power installation had not been paid for by someone else e.g. developer.

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