Ballzproblem2:
cause poch like player that can run like headless chicken that's why,if we had a technical coach Gallagher would be on the bench

Its because Lavia is not available. Initial plan was Lavia Caceido and Enzo in midfield. Gallagher as sub for either Caceido or Enzo. Defensively we will look thin in midfield if Palmer is use as AMF and we have players like Mudryk and Sterling on the wing who can’t do actual jack.

swiz123:


Kane's longevity makes him world class player especially, considering the fact that he was playing for a weak spurs.

Even if he doesn't win a trophy with Bayern, you can trust him to remain consistent and win it next season.

This here qualifies Kane as world class because he has been consistent in breaking records from spurs to Bayern.

Hopefully he wins trophies soon cos he deserves it.

hensben:
Its because Lavia is not available. Initial plan was Lavia Caceido and Enzo in midfield. Gallagher as sub for either Caceido or Enzo. Defensively we will look thin in midfield if Palmer is use as AMF and we have players like Mudryk and Sterling on the wing who can’t do actual jack.

na because of nkunku and chukwuemeka injury I just overlook am Sha

Elnino4ladies:
Reception Mount got yesterday shows he wasn't forced out of the club. The players and the fans, nobody likes him

If we were going by Nairaland likes and popularity, they'll have you think differently.

Now use the same analogy for Jorginho

AdisaOwala:


This topic has been trashed out on numerous occasions - Jorgihno was was of the best players at the tourney.

He even bossed the final

Let them twist it however they like. Ati Verratti o, ati Donarrumma, no one gives a s**t

History and posterity has already put Jorgiboy name in the books

Like I said and will keep repeating, whenever they start the stupid talk, just ask them to name the only player from Chelsea to win the European Player of the Year medal.

popizaino:


What trophy did Ballack win prior to being named the uefa midfielder of the year in 2002?


Where is Harry kane's trophy to be classified as a world class and don't give me your own cock and bull excuse of not so big team because that's why there is europa,FA cup....if big teams are to win the major ones before we can categorise their players as world class then small teams also need to win the minor ones like europa and Fa Cup. Thus where is Harry Kane's trophy with spurs?

How does winning midfielder of the year mean consistency? Work on your logic bro.

Kane's time with spurs doesn't fit into my earlier submission about world class players so rest with these counterintuitive epistles.

Vischy:


I guess you didn't see where he said performing consistently makes one a world class player even without be opportuned with trophies...

Has Saka not been consistent enough for the past 3seasons performing against top opposition in the league to earned his place as a worldclass player?

Was Fabregas not performing consistently from 2005 to 2008 not to earn him a worldclass status?

hensben:
Truth don Dey come out small small. Even in numbers Bellingham nor pass Palmer. If England know what’s good for them Palmer should be coming from Bench since na by who first get called up South Gate wan Dey use.

Thank God nobody go listen to you

Can’t wait to see England fail as usual ,their coach na south Mumu

andrewbaba44:


Thank God nobody go listen to you

Can’t wait to see England fail as usual ,their coach na south Mumu

Na to just skip the guy message, no need to just quote am

Ballzproblem2:
na because of nkunku and chukwuemeka injury I just overlook am Sha

Yeah that too.

User09:


Let them twist it however they like. Ati Verratti o, ati Donarrumma, no one gives a s**t

History and posterity has already put Jorgiboy names in the books

Like I said and will keep repeating, whenever they start the stupid talk, just ask them to name the only player from Chelsea to win the European Player of the Year medal.

Rubbish. Had Donnaruma failed to save one penalty either in the semi or final, Jogginghoe will not even make top 20 in Balon dor

He has not made it before and has not made it since while players like Kante are regular on the ballot. He is just lucky to be the only player lucky enough to be carried to glory in both tournaments that summer by Kante and Donnaruma

Thunder will fire your crooked mouth for trying to pass on Kantes efforts to Jogginghoe that year. Kante was favourite for Ballon dor as of the end of May 2021 based on his UCL performance, Jogginghoe was not even in Chelsea top 7 performers in UCL, he was just lucky Donnaruma helped him cross the line. If Kante won Euros, he would have won Balon dor never mind EPOTY. Jogginghoe only won what he won for being a statistical anomaly - no other player won both major tournaments that summer.

popizaino:


I am ashamed of you.

So Saka isn't a worldclass. What does he need to do to be called a world class?

Elite level performance.
This is the first time he's nearing 30g/a if I'm not wrong. That's a norm for world class players. And also, deciding big games singlehandedly by himself.

Saka is a top player but personally to me he's not yet World class. Same as Foden.

User09:


Jorginho's hatred at Chelsea solely started as a result of Sarri and the perception that he was his favorite. Especially when the team was suffering from poor results

Then the inept Frank took over and the less said about him and his history with Jorgiboy, the better

Lol, you think it's only here I get Chelsea info?

Jorginho is not really rated by Chelsea fans whether Nairaland or not.
Even arsenal fans been deh fear him signature.

Him and Kdb are 30+ yrs but you think if Arsenal buy Kdb our fans won't be ecstatic?

That's World class player for you. They're like sunlight, they shine bright. No explanation ought to be needed when assessing them

User09:


Only you and his critics think this.

We have had the extensive argument on here sometime back, you can go back and check the thread.

They tried to give the Italy accolade to Verratti, the argument was torn apart, Ditto, Kante.

No need rewriting history.

Lol....
No need for back and forth on this matter sha

lordfalcao:
doc has always believed in palmer.

Yeah, I know.
Na why I dey hail am

raumdeuter:


People no sabi play ball you say na leader dem miss

When Leader Buhari plus Nokia communicator Silva was there last season which position Chelsea finish?

Attack fvcked dem up last season.

I just found out they had almost the same goals conceded as us. That's unreal.

This season, without Silva the communicator, dem dey swallow goals in quantum

raumdeuter:


What is leader in defence? Did Arsenal sign Gabriel or Saliba because of leadership conference they got first class in? For all you care Gabriel and Saliba might not even speak English when they first got to Arsenal but we immediately saw the improvement

Defence is a doing act not by point.

Its show not tell

Gabriel is a leader. Gabriel always points even though he engages. Gabriel and Saliba are always in communication (they speak French and they confirmed that's what makes their partnership very strong). They don't just engage because it's the all in all.

Oga Disasi and Badiashile weh dey always engage without communicating, we can see the results of that.

There's a saying: Work smart not hard

raumdeuter:


Can you name the top 3 performer for Italy when they won the Euro

Donnaruma
Spinazola
Bonucci


Chiellini
Chiesa
Jogginghoe


In that order

rooftops:


Like guy, no single communication between those two central defenders. They will have you think one is Serbian and the other one from from south America not knowing both of them are french but they can't even communicate with one and other.

Like it's so bad. You'll Disasi go stray comot leave one kind wide opening behind. When pass is played, Disasi or Badiashile won't be there. Opponent will score and some people will ask "which defender fault"?

Communication is key.

Midfield is another thing. I no know who they communicate or take responsibility for that Midfield sef. All man just deh himself

First player to bottle man of the match award

raumdeuter:


That's why you should watch games

How many touches does it take to make an assist or score a goal? 15 touches

Maybe the assist wasn't spectacular that's why I couldn't remember.

swiz123:


I thought you were a real apostle.

Like that of Saul turned Paul

Saudi Arabia League not Qatar. Spot on with your post

Jodera:
He's at a retirement league (Qatar). All top players go to the retirement league for last paycheck. You don't decide for them when they should retire.

If Portugal doesn't wants to call him, it's not by force. He's 39, He's already paid his dues.

Omo, una no dey tire to repeat same arguments sha


More fire

ThierryJay:


Hmm I'll beg to differ on Jorginho.

At best he was a very good player. A single stellar season does not make you world class. Even in the so-called stellar season, no one who watched Jorgi during the Chelsea UCL and Italy Euro campaign thought in real time that they were watching a potential world best player. It was more of an afterthought at season end that wait a minute, Jorginho is a common factor in both winning campaigns so he must be so, so and so. And after that season, he never truly won fans hearts with his displays both in club and country.

For context, Victor Osimhen is not considered world class despite a stellar last season. David Beckham despite ending up on the world best podium on 2 occasions was considered not world-class by Fergie (though I disagree personally cos Beckham was one of the most impactful midfielders in the world between 98/99 to March 2002 when that Deportivo player broke his leg) but this is just to illustrate that just being very good doesnt automatically make you world class.

To be world class is to show consistently high levels of quality both on the easy and toughest stages over a long time regardless of trophies (although they are an added advantage). This is why Harry Kane and Son are considered World class.

We have world class talents from young ages though, like Owen, Rooney, Pato, Robinho, Bellingham, Neymar, Mbappe, Rice, Mikel Obi. Not all of them went on to seal their world class status though. Foden has world class talent, however time will tell whether he progresses this into a bona-fide world beater. Personally, I think he's almost there and by next season if he replicates this level, his world class status will not be in doubt.

Saka is still not yet world class. Same as Palmer and Rodrygo. They are just very good players.

You sabi 💯

E say na statistical anomaly.

One would think he didnt even play or win any consistent MOTM performances.

We've been down this road one million times. If you think you would rewrite history, that would be to the fools and your naïve hordes who cant think for themselves.

Like I said and will keep repeating, Please name the only player from Chelsea to win the European Player of the Year medal.

Jodera:

Lol, you think it's only here I get Chelsea info?

Jorginho is not really rated by Chelsea fans whether Nairaland or not.
Even arsenal fans been deh fear him signature.

Him and Kdb are 30+ yrs but you think if Arsenal buy Kdb our fans won't be ecstatic?

That's World class player for you. They're like sunlight, they shine bright. No explanation ought to be needed when assessing them

Didnt dispute it. That's why I gave context as to how it started with the Sarri thing

timbros:


Oga your take is the shocking one.

When did Makelele played CAM for Chelsea?

The same Makelele that has a position named after him?

Rest, Hensben was right.

hensben:
Did I say he played CAM for Chelsea. Go work on comprehension bro.

Timbros actually has comprehension issues. Diggz warned me.

diggz:


Please forgive him. Lilbros aka timbros problem is comprehension

Ibeme:


Donnaruma
Spinazola
Bonucci


Chiellini
Chiesa
Jogginghoe


In that order

See names. If we check how many of these were consistently in starting lineup for the euro win now story go change

Chiesa how many games did he start for Italy at the Euros?

The only game Chiesa played full 90mins was the inconsequential 3rd group stage match vs Wales

437mins out of 720 mins

If we stick to the serious matches and remove the inconsequential 3rd group games that's usually left for bench players
Chiesa will be down to 347 mins out of 630mins which is just above 50% of minutes in serious games to a key player

Now to Spinazzola who actually missed the entire semi and final to injury yet this is ibime claiming a player who missed the crucial games to winning the trophy is the key player to winning the trophy


That's some serious capping. If you were to be Russian your name will be Valeri Karpin

airmark:


Rest, Hensben was right.

Right about what

airmark:


Maybe the assist wasn't spectacular that's why I couldn't remember.

There are many things you don't know nor remember and you won't rest