Jodera:
Gabriel is a leader. Gabriel always points even though he engages. Gabriel and Saliba are always in communication (they speak French and they confirmed that's what makes their partnership very strong). They don't just engage because it's the all in all.

Oga Disasi and Badiashile weh dey always engage without communicating, we can see the results of that.

There's a saying: Work smart not hard

How many Arsenal defensive players speak French? Is it Tomiyasu Ben white Jorginho Partey Rice Timber Kiwior Holding or which of the keepers

That communication and leadership is nonsense. Gabriel does the work he is the main man who donates himself to the danger man, we saw how he was all over Haaland showing workings not those silly leadership who will be pointing to others to do work for them to claim glory

raumdeuter:


Right about what

Timbros didn't know that Makelele was an attacker before.

airmark:


Yesterday, Pochettino temporarily fixed the attack by benching your useless Sterling and he later injected Chukwuemeka and Madueke to boost the attack and boom, we won.

Permanent fix is expected by summer when your useless Sterling is chased away from Cobham and we get a quality finisher.

You go explain tire.

Did Sterling start the Burnley game?

airmark:


Timbros didn't know that Makelele was an attacker before.

hensben:
Remember makelele started as CAM and then box to box to fully DM while at Chelsea.

Makelele has been playing DM at Madrid before he came to Chelsea so hensben is wrong as always.

popizaino:



If you followed my discussion very well without assuming for me,i have been particular about Chelsea as a team and not this season alone. I brought our goal conceded against other top teams for the past 5 seasons or so and there wasn't much difference as against our goal scored between us and them. This season is an outlier in our goal conceded but trust me,we still haven't improved in our attack as a team.

So where does come back come into the discussion after Burnley game?

Stay focused.

raumdeuter:


See names. If we check how many of these were consistently in starting lineup for the euro win now story go change

Chiesa how many games did he start for Italy at the Euros?

The only game Chiesa played full 90mins was the inconsequential 3rd group stage match vs Wales

437mins out of 720 mins

If we stick to the serious matches and remove the inconsequential 3rd group games that's usually left for bench players
Chiesa will be down to 347 mins out of 630mins which is just above 50% of minutes in serious games to a key player

Now to Spinazzola who actually missed the entire semi and final to injury yet this is ibime claiming a player who missed the crucial games to winning the trophy is the key player to winning the trophy


That's some serious capping. If you were to be Russian your name will be Valeri Karpin

Spinazola made team of the tournament despite being injured for the semi and final, such was his impact. If Jogginghoe got injured at any stage, he would be forgotten instantly

Chiesa was electric and scored in the semifinal against Spain. Bonucci scored in the final and kept solid defence which was the foundation of their win

So tell me how Jogginghoe will rate above Chiesa and Bonucci who scored in semi and final while Jogginghoe missed his spotkick in the final

Not to mention Donnaruma, the POTT by far

So already your top 3 nonsense is out of the window from just Donnaruma, Chiesa and Bonucci even if you discount Spinazola due to injury, and I haven't brought in Chielini

airmark:


And against Burnley, your useless Sterling later came to waste the biggest chance to win it at 2-2, to Palmer's dismay. Boy had to voice out.

The introduction of Madueke and Chukwuemeka yesterday completed the job as it created overload on Scummies and they cracked.

Pochettino did what we asked for temporarily and our attack outscored United despite our disasters at the back. By summer, we should sack your Sterling permanently.

If benching Sterling is the temporary fix, why didn't Chelsea win Burnley with Sterling on the bench?

I won't even ask you who assisted Chelsea second lead cuz you won't be able to answer.

raumdeuter:


The goal Palmer scored vs Burnley who gave the assist?

Leave airmark to be yarning dust.

airmark:


I can't remember maybe it was just an ordinary one-touch assist.

How will you remember? This shows that you didn't even watch the match.

Ibeme:


Makelele was a CAM for Nantes

Drove them to UCL semi in 1995

...for Chelsea...

Very clear in my post.

timbros:


...for Chelsea...

Very clear in my post.

Did the post you mocked mention it happened at Chelsea?

Unlimited22:

You still haven't answered my question.

How many goals did we concede last season and how many have we conceded this season?

Palmer this and that like say no be e work e dey do

Nihilistjnr just the dodge the defensive part of our game this season compared to last.

Well sha, he don already talk am say na agenda things so i no take am serious.

Ibeme:


Spinazola made team of the tournament despite being injured for the semi and final, such was his impact. If Jogginghoe got injured at any stage, he would be forgotten instantly

Chiesa was electric and scored in the semifinal against Spain. Bonucci scored in the final and kept solid defence which was the foundation of their win

So tell me how Jogginghoe will rate above Chiesa and Bonucci who scored in semi and final while Jogginghoe missed his spotkick in the final

Not to mention Donnaruma, the POTT by far

So already your top 3 nonsense is out of the window from just Donnaruma, Chiesa and Bonucci even if you discount Spinazola due to injury, and I haven't brought in Chielini

We are discussing what they did what they did not what they could have done if not injured or what could have happened if Jorginho got injured

What happened is that Spinazzola got injured and missed the last 2 crucial games that won his team the Euros and cannot be more important that a player who played all the games including the crucial ones he missed
Chiesa is so important that he was never a starter in crucial matches or he was always bundled out quick in games

there is no way Chiesa will make top 3 just because he scored in a game just like Insigne that scored in the qfinal

Ibeme:


Rubbish. Had Donnaruma failed to save one penalty either in the semi or final, Jogginghoe will not even make top 20 in Balon dor

He has not made it before and has not made it since while players like Kante are regular on the ballot. He is just lucky to be the only player lucky enough to be carried to glory in both tournaments that summer by Kante and Donnaruma

Thunder will fire your crooked mouth for trying to pass on Kantes efforts to Jogginghoe that year. Kante was favourite for Ballon dor as of the end of May 2021 based on his UCL performance, Jogginghoe was not even in Chelsea top 7 performers in UCL, he was just lucky Donnaruma helped him cross the line. If Kante won Euros, he would have won Balon dor never mind EPOTY. Jogginghoe only won what he won for being a statistical anomaly - no other player won both major tournaments that summer.

Are you sure?

raumdeuter:


We are discussing what they did what they did not what they could have done if not injured or what could have happened if Jorginho got injured

What happened is that Spinazzola got injured and missed the last 2 crucial games that won his team the Euros and cannot be more important that a player who played all the games including the crucial ones he missed
Chiesa is so important that he was never a starter in crucial matches or he was always bundled out quick in games

Chiesa wasn't bundled out anything. Italy forwards and wingers were working hard cos Italy played deep and Chiesa came came off late to keep him fresh. Their setup required a lot of running from forward players as they couldn't commit old men Chielini, Bonucci and the Jogginghoe too high. That's like saying Osimhen was bundled out every game because Peseiro played deep and used Osimhen legs to cover the whole opponents half till he tired out. That's what Chiesa and co were doing and came off to rest

Every single Italy winger and forward and most fullbacks came off in every game. UEFA allowed 6 substitutions due to COVID environment so Mancini rest the sprinters and allow the static positions like CB and DM to play the full game.

How can Chiesa be bundled out and make team of the tournament?

timbros:


Are you sure?

Don't try to play smart. Starting player apart from Emerson, yes

airmark:


Rest, Hensben was right.

Show me matches Makelele played CAM for Chelsea.

Ibeme:


Did the post you mocked mention it happened at Chelsea?

Did my question not specifically mention Chelsea?

Ibeme:


Chiesa wasn't bundled out anything. Italy forwards and wingers were working hard and Chiesa came came off late to keep him fresh. Every single Italy winger and forward and most fullbacks came off in every game. UEFA allowed 6 substitutions due to COVID environment so Mancini rest the sprinters and allow the static positions like CB and DM to play the full game.

How can Chiesa be bundled out and make team of the tournament?

Chiesa minutes
vs Turkey 3minutes out of 90mins
vs Switzerland 20minutes out of 90mins
vs Austria 36mins out of 120mins
vs England 86mins out of 120mins

The numbers here is showing how limited the dependence on Chiesa was

Chiesa in Italy will be like Mahrez or Alvarez to treble winning City

timbros:


Did my question not specifically mention Chelsea?

Stop trying to play smart. Did Hensben original post you mocked say he was referring to Makelele playing CAM at Chelsea?

Ibeme:


Don't try to play smart. Starting player apart from Emerson, yes

Playing smart how? I mentioned your exact words and asked a question.

Where did "apart" enter from?

You specifically said no other player won both major tournaments that summer. True or false?

Ibeme:


Stop trying to play smart. Did Hensben original post you mocked say he was referring to Makelele playing CAM at Chelsea?

Yes.

He narrated how he started from attack to DM in Chelsea.

hensben:
Caicedo can play DM but doesn’t mean it is his best position was my point that day. He play more like makelele and not Kante. Remember makelele started as CAM and then box to box to fully DM while at Chelsea.

raumdeuter:

Chiesa minutes
vs Turkey 3minutes out of 90mins
vs Switzerland 20minutes out of 90mins
vs Austria 36mins out of 120mins
vs England 86mins out of 120mins

The numbers here is showing how limited the dependence on Chiesa was

Chiesa in Italy will be like Mahrez or Alvarez to treble winning City

Stop yarning dust about dead rubber group games where Chiesa is building fitness from injury

Games that matter are Belgium. Spain and England and Chiesa played boku. Chiesa still scored the winning goal in the 2nd round against Austria you highlighted, and scored the lone semifinal goal against Spain

timbros:


Yes.

He narrated how he started from attack to DM in Chelsea.

Stop being funny. That statement above says he was fully DM while at Chelsea. "He started CAM then box2box then fully DM while at Chelsea."

If you knew Makelele was a CAM at Nantes you won't try to mock that statement

Hensben taught you something, stop doing strong head.

timbros:


Playing smart how? I mentioned your exact words and asked a question.

Where did "apart" enter from?

You specifically said no other player won both major tournaments that summer. True or false?

Don't play your foolish pedantic semantics with me. I am well aware of Emerson and didn't come here to play word salad with you just because I didn't write "starting" infront of player.

Ibeme:


Stop yarning dust about dead rubber group games where Chiesa is building fitness from injury

Games that matter are Belgium. Spain and England and Chiesa played boku. Chiesa still scored the winning goal in the 2nd round against Austria you highlighted, and scored the lone semifinal goal against Spain

The only dead rubber group game which the results didnt matter was the one which Chiesa played 90mins by the time the games got real, he found himself a sub, either coming later or leaving early

That type of players contribution cant be compared to Jorginho who played full matches in all the crucial group and knockout games

raumdeuter:


The only dead rubber group game was the one which Chiesa played 90mins by the time the games got real, he found himself a sub, either coming later or leaving early

That type of players contribution cant be compared to Jorginho who played full matches in all the crucial group and knockout games

Chiesa was starter for Belgium, Spain and England, and played till 80+ minutes and was best winger of the tournament. Save your amala turning

Ibeme:


Chiesa was starter for Belgium, Spain and England, not played till 80+ minutes and was best winger of the tournament. Save your amala turning

Jorginho was a starter in all crucial group and knockout games and was barely taken off unlike Chiesa who played just over 50% of important matches

raumdeuter:


Jorginho was a starter in all crucial group and knockout games and was barely taken off unlike Chiesa who played just over 50% of important matches

Just like Semi Ajayi play all minutes while Osimhen get taken off after being used as workhorses to cover vast spaces all game because Peseiro wants to sit deeo

Chiesa and them were used as workhorses, 3 men to cover the whole opposition half, so that Jogginghoe, Chielini and Bonuccis can sit deep being old men and sluggish. Mancini brought off all his wingers and forwards every game, COVID substitution rules allowed it, so he gives the hard runners rest

Ibeme:


Stop being funny. That statement above says he was fully DM while at Chelsea. "He started CAM then box2box then fully DM while at Chelsea."

If you knew Makelele was a CAM at Nantes you won't try to mock that statement

Hensben taught you something, stop doing strong head.

Interpret it which ever way you want.

I watched Makelele at Madrid and Chelsea. I never seen him play CAM. Why won't I be shocked when someone say he started in CAM to box to box to DM while at Chelsea?

hensben:
Caicedo can play DM but doesn’t mean it is his best position was my point that day. He play more like makelele and not Kante. Remember makelele started as CAM and then box to box to fully DM while at Chelsea.

Rest.

Ibeme:


Don't play your foolish pedantic semantics with me. I am well aware of Emerson and didn't come here to play word salad with you just because I didn't write "starting" infront of player.

You are the one doing strong head here.

Instead of acknowledging your goof, you are claiming right.

You specifically made a statement, without adding any if or but or apart....

Did any other player win both major tournaments that summer? Yes or no.

timbros:


Show me matches Makelele played CAM for Chelsea.

He told you this, yet you are doing strong head as usual.

hensben:
This guy nor know say makelele started as a winger in his early days in France.