Unlimited22:
Surely this isn't true?

Very true.

Robert Sanchez has 3 clean sheet

Petrovic only 2. And Pet has played more games

ThierryJay:
He's not really have a great rep as an elite defender.

Yet he is the only Bundesliga defender to be named German player of the year

Sportsweb:
Please show me any reputable list of where they are listing great CBs ans Botaeng name appears there.

Am waiting.

You dont have to wait long

raumdeuter:


These are people on this forum the day of the final commenting about how immense Boateng was

If Ferdinand was commending him, BBC was, Guardian was, random posters on Nairaland were then maybe you are the outlier

He had a good game which explains the commendation from Ferdinand and BBC, but that does not make his performance a standout memorable one.

In your shots, Schweinsteigger and Neuer were also mentioned as potential Motms. The match was a cagey boring game with few quality attacking moves. Obviously a defender's delight and easy for a defender to shine.

It's either Nunez no just get sense or onana has really got his bearings.

ThierryJay:


He had a good game which explains the commendation from Ferdinand and BBC, but that does not make his performance a standout memorable one.

In your shots, Schweinsteigger and Neuer were also mentioned as potential Motms. The match was a cagey boring game with few quality attacking moves. Obviously a defender's delight and easy for a defender to shine.

He had a memorable game which was why he got a 9/10 rating vs great attackers like Messi Aguero and Higuain
Neuer and Schweini were mentioned but everyone of them mentioned Boateng as the consistent factor in all these

All the attacking moves from Aguero Messi and Higuain were snuffed out

A defender like Rio had to say "Boateng was immense today"

while some were immense in a world cup final, some were immense in group stages, league games and meaningless games

Make we go drink water..2nd half go be fire

ThierryJay:


He had a good game which explains the commendation from Ferdinand and BBC, but that does not make his performance a standout memorable one.

In your shots, Schweinsteigger and Neuer were also mentioned as potential Motms. The match was a cagey boring game with few quality attacking moves. Obviously a defender's delight and easy for a defender to shine.

Kroos has played with some great defenders in his career

Asides the opening 5-10 mins, this has been incredibly one sided. Astonishingly, United are yet to register a single attempt. Liverpool have 15.

raumdeuter:


How can you have greater impact than in a world cup final the biggest game of the sport. I remember the Brazil vs France game, they had very few threat bar Denilson dribbling himself and a save Barthez had to make on Ronaldo

Sick Ronaldo

The only chance Higuain missed was an errant backpass sent to him by Kroos and not a defender miss, I have shown you multiple gifs of where Messi Aguero were stopped, people commenting on this thread that day acknowledged Boateng MOTM performance, analysts like Rio did, BBC and Guardian did

Yet you are the only one saying you dont recognize such but recognize vs Liverpool in a random league game, in a CL second round or in a game defenders score

If Higuain scored that blatant 1 v 1, the dynamics would change and we wouldn't be talking about Boateng being MoM.

UCL and WC knockout/final stages are as high profile as any can be. We've had defenders who have outstandingly bossed these stages. Boateng isnt one of them.

raumdeuter:


He had a memorable game which was why he got a 9/10 rating vs great attackers like Messi Aguero and Higuain
Neuer and Schweini were mentioned but everyone of them mentioned Boateng as the consistent factor in all these

All the attacking moves from Aguero Messi and Higuain were snuffed out

A defender like Rio had to say "Boateng was immense today"

while some were immense in a world cup final, some were immense in group stages, league games and meaningless games

His "immenseness" that day does not measure up to VVD's masterclass vs Bayern. That's the point.

VVD has been head and shoulders above him. Not even sure Boateng has ever made Ballon D'or top twenty before when VVD made top two. He is simply not elite.

Unlimited22:
Surely this isn't true?

Gone were the days Chelsea use clean sheet to brush teeth...

ThierryJay:
If Higuain scored that blatant 1 v 1, the dynamics would change and we wouldn't be talking about Boateng being MoM.

UCL and WC knockout/final stages are as high profile as any can be. We've had defenders who have outstandingly bossed this stages. Boateng isnt one of them.

If my grandma had balls she would be my grandpa. The fact that happened on the day was that Boateng bossed Aguero, Messi and Higuain so much that your only what If was an erant pass from a midfielder.
If Howedes header didnt hit the post and went in maybe we would have had a different game

There is no stage as high profile as a world cup final which No one bossed like Boateng did. BBC said it Guardia said it Rio said it random NL posters said you.

Griffon:


FR the conclusion of that argument is encapsulated in his submission.

There’s no one dimensional way to defend, rather you stick to what works for you. Some CBs are great when it comes to going toe to toe with a forward, while some are great at cutting off supply to the forward, like you have to literally watch as they step up and intercept a pass that was directed to you.

VVD’s style is more of ball reading. The time he takes to drift backwards, is simply him buying time to decide when is perfect to make that timely interception, block or even a tackle. It’s not a bad approach. John Terry was effective with same approach and excelled at it and this was largely because he lacked pace, so couldn’t charge forward.

Everyone must not charge forward, unless you’re playing in a system that demands such.

God bless you.

ThierryJay:


His "immenseness" that day does not measure up to VVD's masterclass vs Bayern. That's the point.

VVD has been head and shoulders above him. Not even sure Boateng has ever made Ballon D'or top twenty before when VVD made top two. He is simply not elite.

Immenseness in a world cup final vs Scoring in a CL 2nd round game? I am sure if we search well we will see Disasi Badiashile immense in some random league game

I am sure Boateng has won 2 CL titles and VVD not won 2. I am sure Boateng has won the world cup as the best player in a final
I am not sure VVD was even good enough to play a semi final

Gusto, Badiashile and Mudryk drop to the bench. Madueke, Chalobah and Silva all start. Everything else is the same

Why the hell is gusto not playing

Here we go

What a free gift. That is so horrible from Quansah.

Marvelous goal from Bruno, who has been otherwise atrocious.

raumdeuter:


Immenseness in a world cup final vs Scoring in a CL 2nd round game? I am sure if we search well we will see Disasi Badiashile immense in some random league game

I am sure Boateng has won 2 CL titles and VVD not won 2. I am sure Boateng has won the world cup as the best player in a final
I am not sure VVD was even good enough to play a semi final

VVD singlehandedly dumped Bayern out of the UCL with a goal, a defensive masterclass and an assist. He then went on to lead his team to win the UCL.

VVD was the best defender in Europe, in the world. Without VVD, Liverpool would not win the UCL.

Boateng could not even make WC team defence of the tournament. Has he ever been the best defender in any European or international stage?

Conclusion, Boateng has never reached VVD's elite heights. This is incontrovertible and any argument from you at this point will be purely academic.

raumdeuter:


You dont have to wait long

So Cristiano, Messi and modric are CBs?

All of a sudden, United are reenergized.

Quansah you do this one.

Sportsweb:
So Cristiano, Messi and modric are CBs?

4 defenders were selected in the whole of Europe and Boateng was one

VVD is still turning nyash towards Garnacho

Liverpool need a cane .. most especially Nunez

Nunez has to be the most horrible striker in Europe.

Man, Liverpool are wasteful. Nunez has to cut that back at the end.

BlueMann:
Man, Liverpool are wasteful. Nunez has to cut that back at the end.

Lol they'll still find a way

ThierryJay:
VVD singlehandedly dumped Bayern out of the UCL with a goal, a defensive masterclass and an assist. He then went on to lead his team to win the UCL.
VVD was the best defender in Europe, in the world. Without VVD, Liverpool would not win the UCL.
Boateng could not even make WC team defence of the tournament. Has he ever been the best defender in any European or international stage?
Conclusion, Boateng has never reached VVD's elite heights. This is incontrovertible and any argument from you at this point will be purely academic.

VVD dumping out a Kovac led Bayern in a CL 2nd round is the greatest achievement of his career? while Boateng will point to a world cup final vs Messi Aguero and Higuain

When VVD can point to dominant performance in such a high level game like WC final let us know

NinjaMetahuman:
Nunez has to be the most horrible striker in Europe.

He will score the hardest chance and miss the easiest one

Very useless guy

DeadPresidents:
VVD is still turning nyash towards Garnacho

Therryjay, Jodera you dey see the trademark nyansh defending?

i no understand our line up