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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 12:58pm On Apr 10 |
Jodera: Nah, you are mixing it up. Benzema won the 2022 Ballon Dor for 21/22 season. Messi won 2023 Ballon dor for 22/23 season which is when WC held and Haaland also won UCL. Fifa best is what Messi won twice using the same WC. Haaland deserved the 2023 Fifa best. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:00pm On Apr 10 |
ThierryJay: France era was known and deservedly credited to Zidane because in the key moment he was lifting them and Henry choking When Zidane retired Henry showed how useless he is World cup 2002, Zidane got injured and France couldn't score a goal despite Henry coming from a great season Same thing when Zidane retired after Euro 2004 leaving Henry to carry the team |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 1:02pm On Apr 10 |
popizaino: 🤣 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 1:08pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter: Your agenda lacks substance. Whilst Zidane was the protagonist for France and rightly so, Henry's contributions to France's success between 1998 - 2003 were also crucial. That Zidane was France's best did not mean Henry was useless, in fact he was second best to Zizou in that era. In 2002, Henry played one game and 15 minutes of the second before his red card, so putting the entire 3-game collapse on him is ridiculous. My main point of argument in my previous post on Haaland, you conveniently ignored. That is what I want you to really respond to. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:11pm On Apr 10 |
ThierryJay: Haaland has done enough in big games for his age while Henry choked in most of his big games in his career Wait till Haaland retire and has the type of shameful big game performance like Henry before we compare them |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 1:13pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter:Yes which is why I said he arguably could have been. He had the assists/goals plus chance creation, dribbles completed were all elite. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 1:16pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter:Big game or not Henry was ten times the footballer to Haaland and even he lost the Ballon to Nedved a certain year. Can Haaland produce the Bernabau performance Henry showcased at Arsenal? Football isn't just about scoring goals, there are works to be done before a goal is scored 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:18pm On Apr 10 |
kendrick9: Haaland produced that performance vs PSG while he was at Dortmund and vs Bayern last season |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 1:21pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter: A fuggy response. The devil is in the detail. Haaland has played Madrid 3 times anonymously. Meanwhile in his first 3 games vs Madrid, Henry scored 2 beautiful goals. Pls how is Henry a choker and Haaland isnt? Henry scored great goals against Juve, Bayern, Madrid, Atletico, Inter, Roma, Valencia, Manutd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Dortmund & Lyon. Only Barca (once) and AC Milan (didnt play them in his prime) are the big teams that escaped his scoring magic. So how is he a serial big game choker based on facts and not some generic biased perception that people had carried unobjectively since their undergraduate days? Hindsight is a great asset. Use it well. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 1:21pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter:Haaland scored goals yes. But Henry terrorized the whole Bernebau all game. He singlehandedly carried the whole Arsenal attacking threat |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:24pm On Apr 10 |
ThierryJay: Madrid is not the only big game Haaland scored 2 and assisted vs Bayern last season at age 23 lost Balon dor to the greatest player ever We can say without Messi, Haaland would have been bal0n dor Henry never got that close because he was never a big game player always choked at key moments of glory |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:26pm On Apr 10 |
kendrick9: He should sign up to be a terrorist and not a football player Especially not in key games Henry got to the CL final and terrorized his own team missing glit edged chances and they lost Until he went to be carried to the CL at Barcelona the same team that beat him |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 1:34pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter: You mean Henry never get closed to the ballon d or ? Didn’t he finished behind pavel nedved a certain year ? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 1:35pm On Apr 10 |
popizaino:This place na beer parlour I saw the post yesterday and was flabbergasted I think it's better not to engage some people because you will end up blaming yourself |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 1:40pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter: Henry lost the world best twice to Zidane and Ronaldinho. Without those 2 GOAT candidates, Henry would have won the best player multiple times. So your statement that he never got that close is clearly wrong. Haaland choked in the UCL final. If Ederson and Rodri had choked likewise, then UCL otilor for Erling. Henry did not have similar luxury despite at least recording a very good assist in the final with 10 men which bettered Haaland's performance vs Inter. And in the run up to the UCL final, Henry absolutely destroyed both Madrid and Juventus with a performance that also bettered Erling's vs Bayern. So the logical conclusion is clear. If you say Henry is a choker, then Haaland is a super choker. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 1:42pm On Apr 10 |
Sportsweb:He was talking about your club. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 2:05pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter: There is a difference between Henry choking in most of the finals he played and saying he always choked in big games. There are many players that haven't played a WC or UCL final but that does not mean they didn't play in any big games. Henry had several magical big game performances across UCL and EPL but truly seemed to have a problem with scoring in finals, (at least though he scored in a Confed cup final). He was carried to the CL in Barca just like Haaland who also did not score in SF and final. Henry still had 6 UCL goals in that campaign and scored crucial goals and assists vs Bayern and Lyon in the QF and SR stages. If you had presented it as the above I wouldn't argue with you. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 2:10pm On Apr 10 |
Reports are Liverpool have an agreement with Ruben Amorim for next season. What a wonderful appointment for them. He is a far better choice than Xabi. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:15pm On Apr 10 |
andrewbaba44: Henry was beaten by Nedved. Haaland was beaten by Messi |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:17pm On Apr 10 |
ThierryJay: At 23yrs Henry was not even getting nominated, Haaland is 2nd at age 23 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 2:17pm On Apr 10 |
Leyqute:Ancelloti is the definition of a man manager(Vibes). He is good at motivating players and relying on individual ability but when it comes to the tactical aspect of the game he is far below many coaches. It's no surprise he has a terrible league record where vibes and inshallah cannot carry you for 38games. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:18pm On Apr 10 |
ThierryJay: But Henry's team has played a world cup final, CL finals, Euro final, even UEFA cup final What is Henrys total contribution to these? Its something if your team never gets to play these finals, its another thing that your team played many and you choke |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 2:22pm On Apr 10 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 2:25pm On Apr 10 |
Capaldi:I don't think so. He reminds me of Villa Boas, hope I'm wrong |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 2:27pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter: The argument isn't about nominations, it's about big game choking. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:27pm On Apr 10 |
ThierryJay: Henry has more big game choking littering his career If Haaland retires with the same amount of big game choking then we can compare to Henry |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 2:27pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter:At least he wasn't a ghost all game. Didn't he get an assist in that game? Very good performance in the 2000 Euros final as someone mentioned here too. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 2:27pm On Apr 10 |
andrewbaba44: As in ehn, he argues with a tunnel vision. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 2:28pm On Apr 10 |
Jodera: Bros I don't need to be told that Jackson will be better than Haaland if he played for Chelsea. Haaland with his abysmal general play will be irritating to watch in this our useless team. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 2:29pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter: And I just broke it down to you in detail that that assertion is false when compared to Haaland at similar age. But you keep spewing unvalidated conclusions. Repeating it does not make you right. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 2:31pm On Apr 10 |
Jodera: Bro, a tap in striker should never win a Balon d'or. That's like crediting you with other people's effort. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:32pm On Apr 10 |
kendrick9:Shey the game where he missed multiple chances and was posing for camera not knowing say breakfast dey come
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