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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 2:33pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter: Then all you would have said is that Henry tends to choke in most finals, not big games because there are way more big games than only finals. That said, Henry definitely didn't choke in Euro 2000 final and in the Confederations cup final. Haaland meanwhile has choked in all his finals played. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:34pm On Apr 10 |
ThierryJay: Facts only raumdeuter: |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:35pm On Apr 10 |
ThierryJay: World cup, Euro final no, CL finals no Now we come dey talk of confederate cup vs bereaved Cameroun |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 2:36pm On Apr 10 |
kendrick9:How does he remind you of Villa boas and what does Xabi remind you of? Villa boas took the biggest team in Portugal to win league. Ruben is about to take Sporting that hasn't won the league in 19years to 2 league titles in 4 seasons. Apart from even those titles his tactical ability and set up is why I rate him. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 2:36pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter: Your so-called facts have limited scope sprinkled with biases here and there as well. Finals are not the only big games in football. That right there is a fact. And refer to my previous comment. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:37pm On Apr 10 |
ThierryJay: Finals are the biggest of big games |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 2:42pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter: Euro 2000 final - he didn't choke as proven in the sources I showed you. That he didn't score does not mean he choked based on his performance in that game. Did Totti choke? I wish I can share his Euro 2000 final highlight to show how terrific he was, but I go likely chop ban. You cannot take away or belittle his Confed final goal record with whataboutism just as you cannot take away saves from Courtois or decision making from De Bruyne per your own previous logic which I agree with by the way. Please give me a final where Haaland has not choked. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 2:43pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter: If Mbappe won that World Cup, he would have been given that balon d'or please. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 2:43pm On Apr 10 |
Capaldi:And Villa Boas was also praised for his tactical ability. Don't the forget he also won the UEFA cup. I'm not saying Amorim would flop, but going from the Portuguese league to the PL is a huge step up and with the huge expectations replacing Klopp, would be bigger than any challenge he has faced |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 2:44pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter: Yes, but not the only big games. Give me an international/continental final where Haaland absolutely made his mark. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 2:45pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter:But he didn't ghost though or touched the ball 11 times in 90mins did he? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by oliverano: 2:48pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter: Exactly. Haaland was the difference last season for City, may be marginally but he was the man. For last season, the award was his, absolutely no question about that! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 2:49pm On Apr 10 |
kendrick9:Any coach you appoint after klopp will face the same challenges even Xabi that was your initial choice. Out of all the available options he is the best you can get. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 2:51pm On Apr 10 |
raumdeuter:Remove Hazard there Hazard in his prime years was a man of big games. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 2:53pm On Apr 10 |
Capaldi:I think Alonso's work this season at Leverkusen is better than anything Amorim has done in his career so far. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 2:56pm On Apr 10 |
oliverano:Which difference? Man city could have beaten Bayern managed by Tuchel without Haaland. In the semis and finals, he was a ghost |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by oliverano: 2:59pm On Apr 10 |
Jodera: It's called revisionism/regency bias. At a point this season, people said Beligham was the best player in the world. A midfielder who's not doing real midfield work but running into the box to score and shoot from distance. As a midfielder this season, doing pure midfield work, Beligham has been meh... A new coach at Madrid won't give him that freedom with Mbape, Vinicus and co. That's when we'll see if he's a real midfielder or an attacking midfielder. Now, everyone is clear that's it's Mbape, end of season, we'll say Harry Kane is the best assuming Bayern go all the way. We talk A on Monday, B on Tuesday, C on Wednesday, D on Thursday, N on Friday.....it goes on! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 3:01pm On Apr 10 |
kendrick9:At the end of the season both will likely be league champions and that's the one thing that counts. 2 in 4 seasons with Sporting is a great achievement for Ruben as well. How is Xavi work at Leverkusen better than that? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sportsweb: 3:04pm On Apr 10 |
Jodera:Haaland deserved that balon dor and would have won it if that year wasn't a World Cup year. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Thazard(m): 3:04pm On Apr 10 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sportsweb: 3:06pm On Apr 10 |
ThierryJay:He didn't even see the FIFA Best Award. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by oliverano: 3:08pm On Apr 10 |
kendrick9: No evidence suggests this. We can only assume. However, the fact is, quote me if I'm wrong.... Pep has been here since 2016, during that period, he spent the budget of all the sub-subsaharan African countries without winning the UCL. The moment Haaland joined, UCL was delivered. Coincidence? I don't think so. For last season, the award was his! 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 3:08pm On Apr 10 |
Capaldi:He's guiding Leverkusen to their first league title since the history of the club. Doing it in commanding fashion, beating a Bayern who have won the Bundesliga 10+ times in a row. He's also on course tracking to beat the points total of 2013 Bayern Treble winners. Far more impressive than Amorim achievements |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 3:11pm On Apr 10 |
oliverano:Again what was his impact in the two legged semis and the finals? How can a ghost be the difference when you can't even notice his presence on the pitch? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 3:13pm On Apr 10 |
kendrick9:It's still one league title. I don't see how that makes it better than Amorim own 2 in 4 with Sporting Lisbon that hasn't won their league in 19years. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by oliverano: 3:16pm On Apr 10 |
kendrick9: In the other argument, you are calling it Tuchel's Bayern meaning you assume them to be weak because of Tuchel. How do you expect a weak team to challenge a motivated team like Leverkusen? Now you're calling that same Tuchel's Bayern, a Bayern who has been winning Bundesliga for 10 years, meaning you expected them to be strong enough to win the bundesliga again or at least challenge till the very end. So how can one team be weak and strong at the same time managed by same person? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 3:16pm On Apr 10 |
oliverano:Football don spoil. How can anyone prove to me that Haaland is the best player in the world? Shearer, Van Nisterooy etc were never called the best in the world...despite their goal scoring feats
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 3:21pm On Apr 10 |
oliverano:Tuchel or no Tuchel, Leverkusen are 16points ahead if I'm not mistaken. Double header between both is just 6pts so let's say Bayer Leverkusen lost both ties they would still be 10pts ahead of Bayern. Forget Bayern, they are inconsequential. Leverkusen are operating in the GOAT tier of greatest Bundesliga campaigns. Bayern would need to go back to 2013 or one of those Pep seasons to challenge this Alonso's side |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 3:21pm On Apr 10 |
Sportsweb: Yeah, he was robbed of the 2023 FIFA best award but not the Ballon D'or. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 3:22pm On Apr 10 |
kendrick9:Your argument lack substance. The award is for player of the year. Meaning the player who was head and shoulders above everyone for the season. Tell me the players better than Haaland for the 2022/2023 season. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by oliverano: 3:22pm On Apr 10 |
kendrick9: Football never spoil, we're in a different era now and no amount of nostalgia will change that and no be today I don dey follow round leather. When Kane was banging in goals left right and center and even played UCL final, nobody called him best player in the wordl because he didn't win any title to back it up. It's not that deep. When Shearer and Nisteroy were scoring, did they win the treble? Last season was for Haaland, period! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by oliverano: 3:24pm On Apr 10 |
Kimbeast: My position since morning, I go soon rest sha lol! |
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