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They are Yoruboid.

Ok but still can't make the cut

garfield1:


No na,they don't make the cut.they don't even have an LGA they own wholly.they share odukpani with qua and efut,share municipal with qua,share south with efut,share akpabuyo with qua and efut,same in bakassi

You classification of these groups is Wrong. Efik/Anang/Ibibio are from the same stocks and should form a single group. I'm not interested in their dirty local politics, but you apply classification for all groups not only the major groups.

Undoubtedly, The Efik/Ibibio bloc are the largest in the South South and they should be the fourth largest in Nigeria.

The Ijoid don't not come close to second.

Armaggedon:
Clown has entered southsouth

South south has four major ethnic groups. Namely:

Igbo (Rivers state, Delta state)

Edoid (Edo state, Urhobo, Isoko and Itshekiri)

Ijaw (Bayelsa state and about 2 LGA of rivers and 3 local government area in Delta state)

Efik/Ibibio ( Cross River and Akwa Ibom)



Of all these groups, Efik/ Ibibio are the largest occupying two state and together numbering about 8million.

Igbos come second occupying 70% of rivers state and 34% of Delta state with minority in cross River, Ika LGA of Akwa Ibom and Igbanke in Edo state. Together they number about 7.5million.

Third is Edoid groups of Bini, Afemai, Esan Urhobo, Itshekiri,Isoko etc occupying Edo and about 14 LGA of Delta state and a minority in Bayelsa. They number about 7. 3 million.

Fourth is Ijoid occupying Bayelsa (only 8 LGA) and about 2 LGA in Rivers and about 3 LGA in Delta.
Note Riverine area of Rivers state is diverse. A lot of area being ascribe to Ijaw are far from being so. Ijaw number about 4million people.

Other minority in South South are
Ogoni
Abua etc

We now see who the real clown is.nothing like edoid ethnicity.each see themselves as different ethnicities and government recognizes them as such.who are you to now utter rubbish? Bini,esan,etsako,efik,Ibibio are all distinct ethnicities son.better still behave sensibly and open your own thread where enough childishness can be fully displayed

garfield1:


Ok but still can't make the cut

No issues, just letting you know there are Yoruba subgroup in Delta including Itshekiris.

Efewestern:


You classification of these groups is Wrong. Efik/Anang/Ibibio are from the same stocks and should form a single group. I'm not interested in their dirty local politics, but you apply classification for all groups not only the major groups.

Undoubtedly, The Efik/Ibibio bloc are the largest in the South South and they should be the fourth largest in Nigeria.

The Ijoid don't not come close to third.

Yes efik,annang and Ibibio share similarities but are classified as different tribes.each of them see themselves differently so respect that please just as isoko and urhobo are distinct.lets stick to the main issues,don't bring divisions please

PressMyButton:

No issues, just letting you know there are Yoruba subgroup in Delta.

I know just that it skipped my memory.we are all here to debate and learn.no one has exclusivity of knowledge

garfield1:


I know just that it skipped my memory.we are all here to debate and learn.no one has exclusivity of knowledge

It's all good bro.

garfield1:
1) IJAWS: they number about 5-7 million and are found mainly in bayelsa,rivers, delta and some pockets in Edo,akwa ibom and ondo

2) IBIBIOS: they dominate akwa ibom state and are found in the three senatorial zones of the state.they have a large settler population in cross river and rivers.they number about.2.7 million

3) IGBOS: they are principally present or indigenous to delta and rivers state.to avoid confusion and controversy,I won't count Ikwerre as igbos since majority don't identify as such but I'll count other riverians like etche,omuma,oyigbo,parts of onelga,opobo nkoro,ahoada as Igbo.they number about 2.3 million.

4) URHOBOS: they dominate delta central,parts of warri,parts of sagbama in bayelsa state and number about 2.2.

5) BINIS: they dominate Edo south although some ijaws are found in a few numbers around ovia.they number about 1.5 million

6) ANNANG; they are found in 8 local governments of akwa ibom state and share similar culture with the IBIBIOS,efiks and orons.they number close to 1.4 million

7) OGONI: they are found in four lgas of rivers state and number almost a million.

IkWERRE: they predominate 4 lgas in rivers and number about 800,000.

9) ESAN/ISHAN; they occupy five lgas of Edo central and number about 800,000k

10) EJAGHAM: this tribe is found in Nigeria and cameroun.speaking of Nigeria,they are majorly in cross river south and central numbering close to 700k.


Notable mentions include the orons,itsekiri,isoko,ekoi, etsakor and Efiks


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Lol igbos re the largest group in South South

mrvitalis:

Lol igbos re the largest group in South South

How so sir? Apart from rivers and delta,where else

PressMyButton:

It's all good bro.

I like your maturity.if there's more info I missed,please draw my attention

garfield1:


How so sir? Apart from rivers and delta,where else

Let's go by LGA.. Name a tribe with more LGA than igbos

There are igbos in cross river, in Abia in Edo,

garfield1:


Yes efik,annang and Ibibio share similarities but are classified as different tribes.each of them see themselves differently so respect that please just as isoko and urhobo are distinct.lets stick to the main issues,don't bring divisions please

No division. If you split groups according to their perceived identities, then you shouldn't add all anioma groups as Igbos, and all Ijaw groups as Ijaws. Most of these people see themselves as their own unique identity.

For better debate. You classify the Efik/Ibibio-anang as one. And nothing wrong classifying the Urhobo/Isoko as one. They are from the same stock and should be classified as one.

If you split these groups, you'd have up-to 100's of tribe which will make your debate cumbersome. For a start, aside the ibibios, there is no group that outnumbers the Urhobos. If we are to go by the identity in which these groups identify themselves with.

Rephrase your OP and get it done then right way. Ibibio-anang-Efik. Edoid, Ijoid. Etc

garfield1:


Andoni,opobo,bonny,degema,okrika,ogubolo,akuku toru,asari toru,abolga,parts of pH,parts of ahoada,parts of onelga

Andoni, Abolga, Onelga and PHlga has non single Ijaw or Ijoid community. Name just one single Ijaw community in any of these LGAs let's check them out either on Youtube or books online.
Degema, Okrika, Opobo, Bonny, Ogu/Bolo are shared between Ijaw and others mostly Igbo except in Degema where you find the Edoid people of Udekama and Usokun. Ahoada West is shared between Igboid(Ekpeye), Edoid(Engenni) and Ijoid(Ogbogolo).
Only Asari Toru and Akuku Toru (these are the main Kalabari LGAs) are nearly entirely Ijoid and even there, there is one or two mixed communities with indigenous Igbos.
Ijaw/Ijoid population in Rivers state isn't that much. At most, I'll give them 700,000 at most.

Efewestern:


No division. If you split groups according to their perceived identities, then you shouldn't add all anioma groups as Igbos, and all Ijaw groups as Ijaws. Most of these people see themselves as their own unique identity.

For better debate. You classify the Efik/Ibibio-anang as one. And nothing wrong classifying the Urhobo/Isoko as one. They are from the same stock and should be classified as one.

If you split these groups, you'd have up-to 100's of tribe which will make your debate cumbersome. For a start, aside the ibibios, there is no group that outnumbers the Urhobos. If we are to go by the identity in which these groups identify themselves with.

Rephrase your OP and get it done then right way. Ibibio-anang-Efik. Edoid, Ijoid. Etc

No sir,I'll do it as it has been officially gazetted please which is efik,annang,Ibibio,urhobo,isoko,bini,isan.ethnologists/ethnographers that classified them as distinct ethnicities know why and have more info than you and me.let us leave it at that.better still,I can allow you classify as you like in edo delta axis but since akwa cross is my region,let me take the lead...
I tagged you to come and identify other areas of urhobo population not to argue about ethnic classification please.i know outsiders see the entire akwa ibom as one tribe called Calabar people but this is very False.cross river state alone has over 70 ethnicities.please be guided.

mrvitalis:

Let's go by LGA.. Name a tribe with more LGA than igbos

There are igbos in cross river, in Abia in Edo,

The igbos in CRS are insignificant and there are IBIBIOS in akwa ibom and CRS tribe in ebonyi so it cancels out itself...
Like I said,ijaws and IBIBIOS outnumber igbos here

Yujin:

Andoni, Abolga, Onelga and PHlga has non single Ijaw or Ijoid community. Name just one single Ijaw community in any of these LGAs let's check them out either on Youtube or books online.
Degema, Okrika, Opobo, Bonny, Ogu/Bolo are shared between Ijaw and others mostly Igbo except in Degema where you find the Edoid people of Udekama and Usokun. Ahoada West is shared between Igboid(Ekpeye), Edoid(Engenni) and Ijoid(Ogbogolo).
Only Asari Toru and Akuku Toru (these are the main Kalabari LGAs) are nearly entirely Ijoid and even there, there is one or two mixed communities with indigenous Igbos.
Ijaw/Ijoid population in Rivers state isn't that much. At most, I'll give them 700,000 at most.

Let us make it 1 million.even at 700k,they are still number 1 in ss

garfield1:


I like your maturity.if there's more info I missed,please draw my attention

You almost got all the tribes right except for the ones i earlier mentioned. You have a deep knowlege of SS.

PressMyButton:

You almost got all the tribes right except for the ones i earlier mentioned. You have a deep knowlege of SS.

SS is my region of course.unfortunately some ignorant and bigotic fellows are stoking confusion

garfield1:


How so sir? Apart from rivers and delta,where else

There are indigenous Igbos in all the 6 SS states.
1. Akwa Ibom.... we have the Ndoki group there.
2. Bayelsa..... we have the Ukwuani and Ekpeye groups there.
3. Cross River.... we have the Isobo and Ikwo groups there.
4. Delta.... we have the Ika, Ukwuani, [Aniocha and Oshimili] Enuani groups there.
5. Edo.... we have the Ika group there.
6. Rivers.... we have the Ndoni, Egbema, Ogba, Ekpeye, Ikwerre, Etche, Asa, Ndoki etc.

Indigenous Igbos in the South South are huge.

garfield1:


SS is my region of course.unfortunately some ignorant and bigotic fellows are stoking confusion

I have seen you talk about the north too. You're a true nigerian.

blabulu2000:
11. YORUBA: they dominate Edo, Delta, Port Harcourt, and Akwa Ibom, and have a good number in Calabar West. They number about 2 million.
...they are peace-loving people and so social ...party after party.

This ur weed strong oo
You add colos

garfield1:


No sir,I'll do it as it has been officially gazetted please which is efik,annang,Ibibio,urhobo,isoko,bini,isan.ethnologists/ethnographers that classified them as distinct ethnicities know why and have more info than you and me.let us leave it at that.better still,I can allow you classify as you like in edo delta axis but since akwa cross is my region,let me take the lead...
I tagged you to come and identify other areas of urhobo population not to argue about ethnic classification please.i know outsiders see the entire akwa ibom as one tribe called Calabar people but this is very False.cross river state alone has over 70 ethnicities.please be guided.

If we are to go be the official gazetted groups, then you are a bit correct with your op. But I will argue that the ibibios are more than the Ijaws.

Again, I want you to understand my point of argument. There's a reason people are classified into groups. It isn't to make anyone superior or inferior. I know for a fact that the Akwa Cross region is complex, but these people are from the same stock and speak a language and have a culture that is nearly similar. It is not out of place to group these people as one, same way it's not out of place to group the Urhobos and Isoko as one. When you do that, you are not necessarily exacting the dominance of one over the other, but making it clear to bond that exist between these groups. There's far more what bond the Urhobo/Isoko and Efik/Ibibio/Anang that what actually separates them.

Yujin:

There are indigenous Igbos in all the 6 SS states.
1. Akwa Ibom.... we have the Ndoki group there.
2. Bayelsa..... we have the Ukwuani and Ekpeye groups there.
3. Cross River.... we have the Isobo and Ikwo groups there.
4. Delta.... we have the Ika, Ukwuani, [Aniocha and Oshimili] Enuani groups there.
5. Edo.... we have the Ika group there.
6. Rivers.... we have the Ndoni, Egbema, Ogba, Ekpeye, Ikwerre, Etche, Asa, Ndoki etc.

Indigenous Igbos in the South South are huge.

The indigenous Igbos in CRS are called isobo in obubra lga and occupy just 5 Hamlets.i already counted the delta igbos.yes,I know the igbos in Edo(igbanke),very insignificant.i already counted igbos in rivers.i have excluded ikwerre please as they see themselves as a separate entity and government recognizes that.let us not argue that one or you go and open your thread.
Which part of bayelsa and akwa ibom do we have igbos and even if they are there,it is insignificant
IGBOS in ss are about 2.3 million as I calculated

garfield1:


The igbos in CRS are insignificant and there are IBIBIOS in akwa ibom and CRS tribe in ebonyi so it cancels out itself...
Like I said,ijaws and IBIBIOS outnumber igbos here

Lmaooo ijews? Lmaooo which ijaws? Lmaooo anioma is bigger than the whole ijaws combined

garfield1:


Let us make it 1 million.even at 700k,they are still number 1 in ss

Ijaws are certainly not the number one in SS.
Even Bayelsa which was carved out for them, they still share it with other tribes. For example, the Ogbia people are not Ijaws. Just google about the Ogbia language and see for yourself. Google also about the Epie-Atissa people of Yenagoa.
From my calculation, only the Ibibo-Efik-Annang combination can rival the Igbo population of the SS. If you remove Annang, Igbo is clearly the largest.
The Edoid on paper should be the largest but it's impossible to unite the Edoid together as a unit. The language intelligibility is not there and can't be bridged.

Yujin:

Ijaws are certainly not the number one in SS.
Even Bayelsa which was carved out for them, they still share it with other tribes. For example, the Ogbia people are not Ijaws. Just google about the Ogbia language and see for yourself. Google also about the Epie-Atissa people of Yenagoa.
From my calculation, only the Ibibo-Efik-Annang combination can rival the Igbo population of the SS. If you remove Annang, Igbo is clearly the largest.
The Edoid on paper should be the largest but it's impossible to unite the Edoid together as a unit. The language intelligibility is not there and can't be bridged.

The ijaws are number one sir.all those small groups in bayelsa see themselves as ijaws so who are you to to say otherwise? Always maintain your lane

mrvitalis:

Lmaooo ijews? Lmaooo which ijaws? Lmaooo anioma is bigger than the whole ijaws combined

Anioma isn't even bigger than URHOBOS

Efewestern:


If we are to go be the official gazetted groups, then you are a bit correct with your op. But I will argue that the ibibios are more than the Ijaws.

Again, I want you to understand my point of argument. There's a reason people are classified into groups. It isn't to make anyone superior or inferior. I know for a fact that the Akwa Cross region is complex, but these people are from the same stock and speak a language and have a culture that is nearly similar. It is not out of place to group these people as one, same way it's not out of place to group the Urhobos and Isoko as one. When you do that, you are not necessarily exacting the dominance of one over the other, but making it clear to bond that exist between these groups. There's far more what bond the Urhobo/Isoko and Efik/Ibibio/Anang that what actually separates them.

These people esp efik/annang Ibibio don't want to be grouped as one so leave am.the ijaws are the largest

garfield1:


The indigenous Igbos in CRS are called isobo in obubra lga and occupy just 5 Hamlets.i already counted the delta igbos.yes,I know the igbos in Edo(igbanke),very insignificant.i already counted igbos in rivers.i have excluded ikwerre please as they see themselves as a separate entity and government recognizes that.let us not argue that one or you go and open your thread.
Which part of bayelsa and akwa ibom do we have igbos and even if they are there,it is insignificant
IGBOS in ss are about 2.3 million as I calculated

Lol. What's your population for Anioma alone?

PressMyButton:

I have seen you talk about the north too. You're a true nigerian.

From here,I'll go to north east and stop there.

garfield1:


The ijaws are number one sir.all those small groups in bayelsa see themselves as ijaws so who are you to to say otherwise? Always maintain your lane

They don't see themselves as Ijaws but don't make noise about themselves being different. They are not Ijaws and have their own ethnic associations.

garfield1:


These people esp efik/annang Ibibio don't want to be grouped as one so leave am.the ijaws are the largest

Lol. I'll let you win this one. Yes, the Ijaw identity is very strong. Their numbers is debatable. Have a good day bro.