Thanks boss

isangjohnson:

Yes.
Though the brand of the inverter is unknown but I'll advise you work with an average max load of 2500w at a time to pave way for more allowance and the cooler of the system. I think this is way the LF inverters lord over the HF inverters. Powerful transformer Vs MOSFETs

jonescosmos:


I haven't seen any Voltronic Based inverter with this function.

oh ok

Buchika:
Please experts in the house help me fine tune this setup.
Can these listed solar items power my load without stress.
The freezer and TV will be on only between 9 am to 5 pm.
The 3 fans will be on all night.
The 6 LED bulbs will be on up to about 10 pm

Load :
140 watts hisense chest freezer
50 watts hisense TV
10 watts Gotv decoder
6 pcs 5watts bulb
3 pcs 30 watts AC/DC fan
3 phone charging point

The setup:

2.5 kW inverter
60a mppt cc
1400 watts solar panel
12 v 210ah lifep04 battery

I noticed you are on a tight budget so you need to manage what you have to survive. You can easily be advice here to go 24v if you haven't purchased the above.

But if the above had been purchased, probably my set up could give a fair hint.

3000w 12v satchet inverter
2s 300w africell pv
Powmr 60a ( max 700w, 80v)
Pv is almost flat on a fence airflow is great.
78ft (26yard Ethernet cable in place of regular cables ).
Battery: 105ah LifePO4

Load mostly in the afternoon: 115w freezer( most important), 50w tv, 10w decoder, 35w fan, etc.

Freezer from 9am to 3 or 4pm.

On cc I do get max of 31a at 478w when sun is blazing.

As freezer goes off by 3pm, battery jumps to 14.1v b4 6pm.

Night: Tv, 1 fan and lightings till say 10pm.
2 fans from 9 or 10pm till morning at a fair speed.

Battery drpped mostly around 13.0 or 13.1v in the morning.

At times tv goes off as sacrifice for freezer in the afternoon when sunlight is just fair.

TRY CHARGE YOUR BATTERY FULLY FIRST AND CAREFULLY DISCHARGE AFTERWARDS. IF You discharge with sense, this 12v of yours will work. But in the long run upgrade to 24v to enable you utilize max your 1400w. But the economy could hinder an upgrade.

N.B Attached pix was today

Drgreatone:

Do u still use the same 60a Powmr SCC? If yes, ow do u overcome the voc of 80 for 12v seeing as ur set up surpasses it if connected in series?

Nope, I now use a 60a Must cc, panels are connected in series

isangjohnson:

I may not really understand what you mean by "an average hybrids require large panel arrays to power loads and charge at the same time" but I've installed 1.5kw 12v hybrid inverter 150v 80a with 2 pcs of 580w Longi pv and 280ah 12v Lfp battery for someone. He powered his 140w freezer during the day and still get the battery to float before 1pm depending on how deep the battery was discharged at night.
I'm expecting 1kw 12v and 1.5kw 12v high frequency hybrid inverter next month and I'll still test the charging system as well.
The issue you experienced may have caused by the configuration of that charging system by the company.

Whats the model of the hybrids. The inverter i use is connected to 3 300w panels and a 12v220ah tubular battery which rarely gets full unless there's NEPA. Have the same system at 2 other sites and its the same outcome.

Penuelseun:
Nope, I now use a 60a Must cc, panels are connected in series

Oh ok. Any reason u chabged to must? Does it have a higher VOC for 12v than the powmr

walexsos:
hello everyone, I have been following this thread for quite some time and sincerely I appreciate everyone for keeping the thread alive....

pls I have a setup of 48v system of sukam 3.5kva transformer based inverter and 4 pieces of 220ah mercury tubular batteries which I use to run my viewing centre( whenever there is football matches at weekends and midweek matches at night) and gaming shop but it doesn't serve me for 24hrs as it's also connected to my room at home which I use after closing at the shop around 10pm
note.... ( I only use it to power few energy saving lights and ceiling fan at home from 10 pm till the next day)

I used 12pieces of 300w panels which was arranged in 3s 4p with a 60amps felicity cc...I am thinking of adding 4 more panels but I am not sure if the cc can accommodate 4s, 4p, below are the gadget used at the two places

game shop
2 slim PS4
4 slim PS3
2 42 inches 4k smart
4 32 inches led tv
2 AC/DC fan at the game shop is


viewing centre
3 50 inches smart TV
2 62 inches ceiling fan

pls should I add 4 more panels or just upgrade to lithium battery and what capacity of lithium battery can run this loads conveniently and still have enough back up at night if need be

Pls post the VOC of ur charge controller and also of the panels used before u can be adviced correctly on ur panel combination pattern

dollarnaira:


I noticed you are on a tight budget so you need to manage what you have to survive. You can easily be advice here to go 24v if you haven't purchased the above.

But if the above had been purchased, probably my set up could give a fair hint.

3000w 12v satchet inverter
2s 300w africell pv
Powmr 60a ( max 700w, 80v)
Pv is almost flat on a fence airflow is great.
78ft (26yard Ethernet cable in place of regular cables ).
Battery: 105ah LifePO4

Load mostly in the afternoon: 115w freezer( most important), 50w tv, 10w decoder, 35w fan, etc.

Freezer from 9am to 3 or 4pm.

On cc I do get max of 31a at 478w when sun is blazing.

As freezer goes off by 3pm, battery jumps to 14.1v b4 6pm.

Night: Tv, 1 fan and lightings till say 10pm.
2 fans from 9 or 10pm till morning at a fair speed.

Battery drpped mostly around 13.0 or 13.1v in the morning.

At times tv goes off as sacrifice for freezer in the afternoon when sunlight is just fair.

TRY CHARGE YOUR BATTERY FULLY FIRST AND CAREFULLY DISCHARGE AFTERWARDS. IF You discharge with sense, this 12v of yours will work. But in the long run upgrade to 24v to enable you utilize max your 1400w. But the economy could hinder an upgrade.

N.B Attached pix was today

Pls would love a pic of ow u set ur panels on the fence

Ferdiwar:
If you can afford the Deye grab it with your full chest.

How does Deye compare to Growatt, pound-for-pound?
I am getting ready to purchase and have eyes on the SPF 5000 ES Hybrid 5kW 48V
mated to some Pylontech juice

Hybrid600:


Do you know how much is the star link?
Abeg bring red mangoes when you dey come back 😎

black market prices na around 650k or less for registered ones... The unregistered ones some vendor de call one million plus. But starlink officially don de advertise for 440k...i never try order.

QuoteJust1nce:


How does Deye compare to Growatt, pound-for-pound?
I am getting ready to purchase and have eyes on the SPF 5000 ES Hybrid 5kW 48V
mated to some Pylontech juice

Growatt is a Voltronic Based Inverter but built with quality in mind.
Deye is a Proprietary Owned Inverter built with quality, longevity, strength, adaptation. They have been in existence for a while. America tried to clamp them down by taking a franchise contract under SunSynk, EG4, SolArk, etc. But they eventually got liberated and started shipping out with their own Brand Name: DEYE.

If you have the funds, grab the Deye 5KW, no regrets.

swagifted:
black market prices na around 650k or less for registered ones... The unregistered ones some vendor de call one million plus. But starlink officially don de advertise for 440k...i never try order.

I have brand new starlink(no account )available in bulk n retail 570k each

Discount of buying multiple units

HeavenlyBang:


Bad experiences?

Yeah.

Their inverter head dey shake....

alosbaba007:



Pls share ur reasons and experiences, i dey plan to get 4units for my customers.

Abeg enlighten me more on the Inverter

There is this gennex inverter that I worked on that couldn't supply output until you supply input and turn it off before it supplies output.

Mind you if you put on PV it will be own but no output, put off the PV input and on the inverter while connected to battery, it will come on and go off after some time....

The wahala is too much....
The saving grace is most of the inverters where bought by the client so I just seat down and look dey laff ....

Drgreatone:

Whats the model of the hybrids. The inverter i use is connected to 3 300w panels and a 12v220ah tubular battery which rarely gets full unless there's NEPA. Have the same system at 2 other sites and its the same outcome.

I used HSI and Zumax. If the panels are well oriented and the correct size wire was used, then the charging system of the hybrid inverter is the issue.
I had an issue with of one of the hybrid inverters I installed for a customer and suspected it was related to float bulk.. I was unable to get an acceptable margin of float bulk that could comfortably charge the Lfp battery to full. When I set it to the range of 13.8v to 14v, about 9a or thereabouts was coming in from the pv but when I pushed the setting further to about 14.8v, I was seeing 25a and above. I couldn't charge the Lfp battery with 14.8v and I later introduced my spare 60a epever Mppt external CC into it and everything was in order.

twinskenny:
I have this Mopower 24v inverter gathering dust in my office


Working perfectly.

Any taker? Am looking for 110k

08051355133

WhatsApp

SICSO? 🤔

twinskenny:
I have this Mopower 24v inverter gathering dust in my office


Working perfectly.

Any taker? Am looking for 110k

08051355133

WhatsApp

Abeg shey na my eye dey deceive me ni? Did I just see SICSO on that Network Switch? CISCO is in trouble ooo.

I installed the old model PowMr CC yesterday for a boss, and with lithium battery.

On setting it up, I noticed the menu now has a D05. I used to know the menu stops at D04

So I'm curious, if anyone has noticed it and what is it's function. The manual is silent about it even.

CC @ linnov8

Ferdiwar:
Fadi Solarco Abuja - +234 913 784 9368

Jeff Xtra Power Lagos - +234 701 739 9999

Contact them for delivery outside the stated states.

Thanks a lot boss

isangjohnson:

I used HSI and Zumax. If the panels are well oriented and the correct size wire was used, then the charging system of the hybrid inverter is the issue.
I had an issue with of one of the hybrid inverters I installed for a customer and suspected it was related to float bulk.. I was unable to get an acceptable margin of float bulk that could comfortably charge the Lfp battery to full. When I set it to the range of 13.8v to 14v, about 9a or thereabouts was coming in from the pv but when I pushed the setting further to about 14.8v, I was seeing 25a and above. I couldn't charge the Lfp battery with 14.8v and I later introduced my spare 60a epever Mppt external CC into it and everything was in order.

Was it the HSI that gave this issue ?

iamphilips:


I have brand new starlink(no account )available in bulk n retail 570k each

Discount of buying multiple units

Mad o, where are you shipping from?

jonescosmos:


Growatt is a Voltronic Based Inverter but built with quality in mind.
Deye is a Proprietary Owned Inverter built with quality, longevity, strength, adaptation. They have been in existence for a while. America tried to clamp them down by taking a franchise contract under SunSynk, EG4, SolArk, etc. But they eventually got liberated and started shipping out with their own Brand Name: DEYE.

If you have the funds, grab the Deye 5KW, no regrets.

I watched a tear down of a Deye yesterday, and no transformers within it, looks like the Deye inverters are high frequency?

redgem:


Those are not the jinko panels but a screenshot I saw online showing the cords on some panels someone purchased...

See below the jinko, just took a snap of the sticker

Make things easier for yourself and us, send a full picture of your panel to show what's missing or not instead of giving us trailers and previews.

chris81964:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN0D-WtieCE

Looks good and secure, but how about wire management? Entry and exit, especially considering the battery's cables too

adrusa:


I doubt it. The Deye Smartload system takes advantage of the dedicated Generator Port by converting the Gen port to output under certain conditions. So, it will require that you wire your heavy loads to the gen port. If your inverter does not have this baked into its software, you can not use it even if you have 2 outputs. However, you can achieve the same thing in different ways.

For example, what I did is to put my large loads including AC, Fridge/Freezer, Water Heater and Water Pump on a smart relay that is controlled by Home Assistant. They can then be programmed to work only when battery SOC/Voltage/Current is between certain levels.

If one has an inverter with dry ports that get signals based on the SOC, it's just a matter of relays and contactors + timers and one can replicate that. Which is why I love the latest jk bms features.

Drgreatone:

Oh ok. Any reason u chabged to must? Does it have a higher VOC for 12v than the powmr

My old powmr has a bug that sometimes changes the controller to pwm mode when the battery gets full and load is applied, I will have to switch the solar input off and on a few times before it returns to mppt mode, note that this only happens on 12v batteries, never happens on 24v systems

Trippledots:


SICSO? 🤔

lol those doesn’t last a week where it was deployed!

Juror:

I watched a tear down of a Deye yesterday, and no transformers within it, looks like the Deye inverters are high frequency?

Yes they are.

dollarnaira:


I noticed you are on a tight budget so you need to manage what you have to survive. You can easily be advice here to go 24v if you haven't purchased the above.

But if the above had been purchased, probably my set up could give a fair hint.

3000w 12v satchet inverter
2s 300w africell pv
Powmr 60a ( max 700w, 80v)
Pv is almost flat on a fence airflow is great.
78ft (26yard Ethernet cable in place of regular cables ).
Battery: 105ah LifePO4

Load mostly in the afternoon: 115w freezer( most important), 50w tv, 10w decoder, 35w fan, etc.

Freezer from 9am to 3 or 4pm.

On cc I do get max of 31a at 478w when sun is blazing.

As freezer goes off by 3pm, battery jumps to 14.1v b4 6pm.

Night: Tv, 1 fan and lightings till say 10pm.
2 fans from 9 or 10pm till morning at a fair speed.

Battery drpped mostly around 13.0 or 13.1v in the morning.

At times tv goes off as sacrifice for freezer in the afternoon when sunlight is just fair.

TRY CHARGE YOUR BATTERY FULLY FIRST AND CAREFULLY DISCHARGE AFTERWARDS. IF You discharge with sense, this 12v of yours will work. But in the long run upgrade to 24v to enable you utilize max your 1400w. But the economy could hinder an upgrade.

N.B Attached pix was today

your detailed response was greatly appreciated

Juror:

Looks good and secure, but how about wire management? Entry and exit, especially considering the battery's cables too

I would always recommend not combining AC and DC Circuitry, ESD is real and not a friend of most Inverters.
Same way I preached against combining AC Grounding and DC Grounding using the same Earth Rod (Bury 2 Rods in the same spot but don't let them touch each other). Some people who did combine their earthing had their Inverters exposed to hazards and consequently damaging them.
The use of the ATS in the box is not recommended also because anything that trips your Inverter output requires an attention. Go and verify that everything is OK and so you can switch things manually.
Most Inverters are short circuit protected, so if you have a short circuit or some sort garget that is trying to blow, it will raise the amperage on the power source, most inverters will trip to prevent that from happening.
And when it trips, your ATS then switches your supply over to Grid automatically abi?, Well, Nigerian NEPA current does not pity anything wey wan blow. Don't ask me the function of the breakers, most breakers you have in Nigerian Markets today are fakes and locally printed, so they might not protect your equipment in some hazardous events.
People now have printing machines that can print on those breakers, Now that solar is trending, watch them cleaning Ac breakers and printing them as DC breakers. Always buy proprietary protection devices, they costs more but they work.

Avoid using ATS on your Inverter Outputs, use MTS if you must, or do it on the Inverter Input considering alternative source of power.

I come in peace.

jonescosmos:


Growatt is a Voltronic Based Inverter but built with quality in mind.
Deye is a Proprietary Owned Inverter built with quality, longevity, strength, adaptation. They have been in existence for a while. America tried to clamp them down by taking a franchise contract under SunSynk, EG4, SolArk, etc. But they eventually got liberated and started shipping out with their own Brand Name: DEYE.

If you have the funds, grab the Deye 5KW, no regrets.

Thanks for your reply. Very detailed.
Deye it is.

Juror:

Looks good and secure, but how about wire management? Entry and exit, especially considering the battery's cables too

Thank you for the compliment.
Cables coming in are AC 6 mm max x 6, PV 10 mm x 4 and battery 10 mm x 2. Our battery voltage is 360V.