Ayomipoe:
Rush to buy Starlink has sold theirs?
Abeg this one is not factual. If you know anyone who is selling their used device, it's either they are gamers and they already have access to networks with high ping or they are content creators that need access to high upload speeds.

You are comparing Starlink to the older satellite technologies, that one cannot fly.
See my speed test this morning and it is currently drizzling, a scenario that affects the speed.
[URL=https://www.speedtest.net/result/16166069138][IMG]https://www.speedtest.net/result/16166069138.png[/IMG][/URL]

People are not rushing to sell their Starlink o bros, na scarce commodity.

Why's Starlink upload speed always awful?

QuoteJust1nce:


It doesn't matter if he only uses 10GB per month; Nobody in 2024 should be subjected to a 20Mbps internet speed.
It's like saying he doesn;t use too much data per month; therefore he is good with 3G. But people who use too much can stay with 5G.
Nah brov!

Nigerians and their bragging. 20mbps is fine for the overwhelming majority of internet users. It will do Youtube, Netflix, Prime Videos etc fine. I know because I'm using one at home with fibre.

With fibre all over Lagos for which entry fees are less than 100k, I had asked myself why people are rushing Starlink. When the thing first launched in Nigeria, I repeatedly tried to buy, but I kept finding it difficult to justify that expense especially since I have a good fibre connection that I pay less than 20k for per month. It is also unlimited and there is no FUP. It is 20mbps for one whole month and I have pulled over 1TB data in some months.

Besides, the report I'm getting is that the 100-300mbps is not always guaranteed. I have seen people with 40mbps download. I don't see the noise about Starlink if you live in an urban area with access to high speed unlimited fibre connection. I can not justify paying extra 20k for a bandwidth I really don't need.

In my opinion, I think it is physics.
Traditionally, Satellite internet has always been slow because typically an ISP usually has like 1 space dish that covers your whole continent. The radio waves are sent from your own device to the space dish, then relayed to the ground station of the ISP which then connects you to the internet and forwards the response to you via the same loop.
Starlink changed the game by only bringing the space stations closer, this fixed the download side. However instead of 1 single dish in a fixed location, you now have thousands orbiting the sky and your own equipment is now responsible for tracking those stations in the sky.
The weak link is how the information is being sent and received via the space stations. Hence why any small rain, the internet will go crazy and often times go offline.

HeavenlyBang:


Why's Starlink upload speed always awful?

HeavenlyBang:


20mbps isn't 20MBps.

You're essentially capped at 2.5MBps, and I'm willing to bet it's lower than that most of the time. Don't see why any serious internet user would limit themselves to such pitiful speeds.

You would loose your money brotherly. Lolz. It's way beyond that. Gets up to 50Mbps when downloading. What you want to say is bytes per second Bps and bits per second bps. 1Byte = 8bits.

That is more than enough for most people's use case. I use it to stream on multiple TV screens at once without any buffering in between. Seamless experience I must add, so far.

This is an awesome take.
Everyone’s use case is different. 20mbps constant is a wonderful predictable speed and it is perfect for even SME’s.

If you live in an area with 5g and you have unlimited internet, you cannot justify the purchase of Starlink.

However, if you stay in Iyana Ipaja, where your only hope for Fiber currently is Dotmac fiber to home and you need high speed internet ?. Truth be told, most people will be served by 200gb airtel unlimited and never exceed their data cap.

Everyone’s use cases are not the same like this poster said. If you are not already exceeding 300GB monthly, I doubt you can justify spending such amounts to buy the equipment.

adrusa:


Nigerians and their bragging. 20mbps is fine for the overwhelming majority of internet users. It will do Youtube, Netflix, Prime Videos etc fine. I know because I'm using one at home with fibre.

With fibre all over Lagos for which entry fees are less than 100k, I had asked myself why people are rushing Starlink. When the thing first launched in Nigeria, I repeatedly tried to buy, but I kept finding it difficult to justify that expense especially since I have a good fibre connection that I pay less than 20k for per month. It is also unlimited and there is no FUP. It is 20mbps for one whole month and I have pulled over 1TB data in some months.

Besides, the report I'm getting is that the 100-300mbps is not always guaranteed. I have seen people with 40mbps download. I don't see the noise about Starlink if you live in an urban area with access to high speed unlimited fibre connection. I can not justify paying extra 20k for a bandwidth I really don't need.

bassdow:

I am pretty sure over 400% of those who rushed to buy it have either sold theirs, or are looking to dispose it.

Respectfully; nothing I detest more than people who just pull our facts from their "a**ss" without logical thinking
#1 Over 400% who rushed to buy have sold make no sense mathematically.
If 1000 people rushed to buy, it means over 4000 people have sold it. So where did the extra 3000 units come from?
How can you have more sellers than buyers?

#2 Where and when did you carry out the survey that sampled Starlink users and then derived the fact that over, once again " 400%".(more sellers than buyers) have truly sold their device?

You see how you sound?

adrusa:


Nigerians and their bragging. 20mbps is fine for the overwhelming majority of internet users. It will do Youtube, Netflix, Prime Videos etc fine. I know because I'm using one at home with fibre.

With fibre all over Lagos for which entry fees are less than 100k, I had asked myself why people are rushing Starlink. When the thing first launched in Nigeria, I repeatedly tried to buy, but I kept finding it difficult to justify that expense especially since I have a good fibre connection that I pay less than 20k for per month. It is also unlimited and there is no FUP. It is 20mbps for one whole month and I have pulled over 1TB data in some months.

Besides, the report I'm getting is that the 100-300mbps is not always guaranteed. I have seen people with 40mbps download. I don't see the noise about Starlink if you live in an urban area with access to high speed unlimited fibre connection. I can not justify paying extra 20k for a bandwidth I really don't need.

20Mbps is. not fine. Why are people so resistant to change? When Edge came it was fine yea, but then we moved to 3G was was good enough. Then 4G which was perfect "according to your stance" for most users. But then 5G arrived. If Edge was fine, why was the world gunning for more powerful internet tech. It's simply called tech advancements.
Stop that BS of 20Mbps is fine. In most advanced countries even 100Mbps is now archaic no matter if you want to use 1GB per month or 1TB per month. If it was left to people like you, the world would still be stuck with antennaed phones and GPRS.

QuoteJust1nce:


20Mbps is. not fine. Why are people so resistant to change? When Edge came it was fine yea, but then we moved to 3G was was good enough. Then 4G which was perfect "according to your stance" for most users. But then 5G arrived. If Edge was fine, why was the world gunning for more powerful internet tech. It's simply called tech advancements.
Stop that BS of 20Mbps is fine. In most advanced countries even 100Mbps is now archaic no matter if you want to use 1GB per month or 1TB per month. If it was left to people like you, the world would still be stuck with antennaed phones and GPRS.

So, tell me what your 100mbps is doing that a regular home can not do on 20mbps?

adrusa:


So, tell me what your 100mbps is doing that a regular home can not do on 20mbps?

For zero, you cannot have an efficient home server
For one. you cannot stream 4K
For "two", download an 50GB engineering template and tell me how long it takes you to complete? mins? hours? days?
For three, You cannot have your kids, you, wife and guests streaming HD at the same time while you hold an important zoom meeting (very important).
Some devices will be throttled based on QoS and the list go on.

Ayomipoe:
Rush to buy Starlink has sold theirs?
Abeg this one is not factual. If you know anyone who is selling their used device, it's either they are gamers and they already have access to networks with high ping or they are content creators that need access to high upload speeds.

You are comparing Starlink to the older satellite technologies, that one cannot fly.
See my speed test this morning and it is currently drizzling, a scenario that affects the speed.
[URL=https://www.speedtest.net/result/16166069138][IMG]https://www.speedtest.net/result/16166069138.png[/IMG][/URL]

People are not rushing to sell their Starlink o bros, na scarce commodity.

You are even an average user IMHO. Your starlink speed isn't impressive to say the least. I am aware some people get way more than this though.

EduTechTainMent:


You are even anerage user IMHO. Your starlink speed isn't impressive to say the least. I am aware some people get way more than this though.

He just told you it's currently drizzling. My internet has never gone off while raining but speeds gets reduced (synonymous with satellite internet). Read to understand not to win an argument.

QuoteJust1nce:


For zero, you cannot have an efficient home server
For one. you cannot stream 4K
For "two", download an 50GB engineering template and tell me how long it takes you to complete? mins? hours? days?
For three, You cannot have your kids, you, wife and guests streaming HD at the same time. Some devices will be throttled based on QoS
and the list go on.

What kind of home server? If you are running a busy website from your "home", you are not a regular home user. I run a smart home server and online DVR at home and my 20mbps work perfectly.

I stream 4k regularly on my 20mbps using Youtube or Netflix. Youtube requires 15mbps for 4k while Netflix requires a little more, but with precaching 20mbps is more than adequate for 4k streaming.

I download things well beyond 50GB using torrent or direct download, it takes time. If you need to download 50gb "engineering template" over short period, you are not a regular home user.

My home is not a cybercafe. I don't have all members of the family streaming HD movies on different screens all at the same time. I wonder how often this also happens in your own home.

Of course a gigabit link will solve all world's problem, but unless you have a special need for insanely fast internet due to the nature of your work, 20mbps is good enough.

adrusa:


What kind of home server? If you are running a busy website from your "home", you are not a regular home user. I run a smart home server and online DVR at home and my 20mbps work perfectly.

I stream 4k regularly on my 20mbps using Youtube or Netflix. Youtube requires 15mbps for 4k while Netflix requires a little more, but with precaching 20mbps is more than adequate for 4k streaming.

I download things well beyond 50GB using torrent or direct download, it takes time. If you need to download 50gb "engineering template" over short period, you are not a regular home user.

My home is not a cybercafe. I don't have all members of the family streaming HD movies on different screens all at the same time. I wonder how often this also happens in your own home.

Of course a gigabit link will solve all world's problem, but unless you have a special need for insanely fast internet due to the nature of your work, 20mbps is good enough.

I only have two statements for you.
#1 Why did the world move from GPRS to 5G if most of us were okay (regular users) with GPRS? And I am pretty sure you also moved right? Why did you not stay behind?
#2. You said "you can download but it will take time". At some stage, time even becomes more expensive than money. If you wish to spend 1 day to download an important file; somebody else needs it ASAP.
Drops mic.

QuoteJust1nce:


For zero, you cannot have an efficient home server
For one. you cannot stream 4K
For "two", download an 50GB engineering template and tell me how long it takes you to complete? mins? hours? days?
For three, You cannot have your kids, you, wife and guests streaming HD at the same time while you hold an important zoom meeting (very important).
Some devices will be throttled based on QoS and the list go on.

For 0, not everyone knows or wants to have a home server.

For 1,not everyone knows or wants to stream in 4k. Even if you have the data to stream in 4k, what if you don't have the hardware to support 4k streaming?

For 2, 50gb file will eventually get downloaded, I dare say in minutes. May take over and hour but then again, what's the rush. We will all get to promised land of completed downloads eventually. Lolz.

For 3, I hv had cause to stream on multiple TV screens, working on multiple desktop computer systems. It was all seamless. Also phones were being used in between. Perhaps I need to try out having an online meeting while streaming media concurrently.

You still refuse to acknowledge the fact that everyone's use case is quite different.

I agree with you, the more the better. But let's not belittle the satisfaction ppl choose to derive from how they choose to spend their hard earned money sir.

Enjoy your starlink. Make all men enjoy their choice.
Shalom.

EduTechTainMent:


You would loose your money brotherly. Lolz. It's way beyond that. Gets up to 50Mbps when downloading. What you want to say is bytes per second Bps and bits per second bps. 1Byte = 8bits.

That is more than enough for most people's use case. I use it to stream on multiple TV screens at once without any buffering in between. Seamless experience I must add, so far.

Well, they advertise mbps, not MBps. That's megabit, not Megabyte.

Ayomipoe:
In my opinion, I think it is physics.
Traditionally, Satellite internet has always been slow because typically an ISP usually has like 1 space dish that covers your whole continent. The radio waves are sent from your own device to the space dish, then relayed to the ground station of the ISP which then connects you to the internet and forwards the response to you via the same loop.
Starlink changed the game by only bringing the space stations closer, this fixed the download side. However instead of 1 single dish in a fixed location, you now have thousands orbiting the sky and your own equipment is now responsible for tracking those stations in the sky.
The weak link is how the information is being sent and received via the space stations. Hence why any small rain, the internet will go crazy and often times go offline.

Fair enough.

Guy calm down na. Without mincing words, na money be the issue here. Even if he only needs 1GB, if he has spare money to throw, he would go for the best internet money can get. Nobody would reject 300Mbps for 20Mbps claiming that he's an average user. If only we would be honest with ourselves as Nigerians. Do with this information what you may.

HeavenlyBang:


20mbps isn't 20MBps.

You're essentially capped at 2.5MBps, and I'm willing to bet it's lower than that most of the time. Don't see why any serious internet user would limit themselves to such pitiful speeds.

Just like you need 300MBPS to comment on Nairaland.

HeavenlyBang:


Well, they advertise mbps, not MBps. That's megabit, not Megabyte.

Don't mind Airtel. It's actually Mbps in reality. I have that exact 5G router and their ODU. They are relics gathering dust now

QuoteJust1nce:
Guy calm down na. Without mincing words, na money be the issue here. Even if he only needs 1GB, if he has spare money to throw, he would go for the best internet money can get. Nobody would reject 300Mbps for 20Mbps claiming that he's an average user. If only we would be honest with ourselves as Nigerians. Do with this information what you may.

Yeah, you have a point sha. But not everyone is constrained by funds. I said it above, the initial hardware cost of setting up starlink is very prohibitive. So airtel is a viable alternative IMHO.

Person wey comot 20k for Internet sub suppose fit add 18k to sub for starlink, don't u think?

QuoteJust1nce:


Don't mind Airtel. It's actually Mbps in reality. I have that exact 5G router and their ODU. They are relics gathering dust now

Why u no sell them or give them out since you may not have use for them anymore.?

EduTechTainMent:


Yeah, you have a point sha. But not everyone is constrained by funds. I said it above, the initial hardware cost of setting up starlink is very prohibitive. So airtel is a viable alternative IMHO.

Person wey comot 20k for Internet sub suppose fit add 18k to sub for starlink, don't u think?

I think yes, if that person is a miser or loves freebies or worse still has developed Stockholm Syndrome. let me drive the point home.
Ask somebody who needs to power just a room to buy Deye 8KW and 2x 15kwH Lithium batteries, he wil instantly reject it. And that's correct because like someone said, the average user doesn't need it.
But tell that same person it will be installed for free; he will never reject it; even though it's still an "over kill"for the average user.
What does that tell you? Nobody wey no like better thing.

EduTechTainMent:


Why u no sell them or give them out since you may not have use for them anymore.?

Have you asked nicely and I said no?

QuoteJust1nce:


Have you asked nicely and I said no?

Let me ask nicely... Can i av the 5g router. Wud be a big upgrade to my 4g 😁😁😁

Drgreatone:

Let me ask nicely... Can i av the 5g router. Wud be a big upgrade to my 4g 😁😁😁

how much you get lol
Moreso, you gotta be in Lagos

QuoteJust1nce:


Have you asked nicely and I said no?

😂😅

Oya how much u wan sell ur ODU or the 5G router.

Ayomipoe:
This is an awesome take.
Everyone’s use case is different. 20mbps constant is a wonderful predictable speed and it is perfect for even SME’s.

If you live in an area with 5g and you have unlimited internet, you cannot justify the purchase of Starlink.

However, if you stay in Iyana Ipaja, where your only hope for Fiber currently is Dotmac fiber to home and you need high speed internet ?. Truth be told, most people will be served by 200gb airtel unlimited and never exceed their data cap.

Everyone’s use cases are not the same like this poster said. If you are not already exceeding 300GB monthly, I doubt you can justify spending such amounts to buy the equipment.

How do I check my Mbps rate?

Ayomipoe:
This is an awesome take.
Everyone’s use case is different. 20mbps constant is a wonderful predictable speed and it is perfect for even SME’s.

If you live in an area with 5g and you have unlimited internet, you cannot justify the purchase of Starlink.

However, if you stay in Iyana Ipaja, where your only hope for Fiber currently is Dotmac fiber to home and you need high speed internet ?. Truth be told, most people will be served by 200gb airtel unlimited and never exceed their data cap.

Everyone’s use cases are not the same like this poster said. If you are not already exceeding 300GB monthly, I doubt you can justify spending such amounts to buy the equipment.

Airtel Unlimited is truly Unlimited....not 200gb with 10gb daily FUP. My whole house is connected to the 20mbps Plan. My phone, tablet, wifey phone and laptop. I watch Movies in HD, Youtube in FHD, stream Netflix, download apps and games. Its more than sufficient. The most beautiful thing is the ping. I will always take an averagely fast internet with low ping over an extremely fast internet with High ping anytime anyway.

If it's truly unlimited and not caped, it will surely be okay for my needs. Can you please show your data usage history cos airtel have a history of false advertisement and deception. Also, what device is it working on or just any airtel device/sim?

Peterlove11:

Airtel Unlimited is truly Unlimited....not 200gb with 10gb daily FUP. My whole house is connected to the 20mbps Plan. My phone, tablet, wifey phone and laptop. I watch Movies in HD, Youtube in FHD, stream Netflix, download apps and games. Its more than sufficient. The most beautiful thing is the ping. I will always take an averagely fast internet with low ping over an extremely fast internet with High ping anytime anyway.

QuoteJust1nce:


He just told you it's currently drizzling. My internet has never gone off while raining but speeds gets reduced (synonymous with satellite internet). Read to understand not to win an argument.

😭

adrusa:


Starlink if you live in an urban area with access to high speed unlimited fibre connection. I can not justify paying extra 20k for a bandwidth I really don't need.

They may be pro gamers...they need every MBps they can get.