rexbuton:

I am a Christian, I have never defaulted in tithing in the last 5 years. Not once.

advanceDNA:
U already contribute more than her......when her family needs money, she still drags money from ur pocket..
Ur wife is a bit insensitive..... .she shouldn't harass u any further on how u choose to spend ur money developing urself...

Guy...try to dey send some of ur money to a nigeria domiciliary account, like this money u won......look out for urself man.....there is no crime in that...


Its nauseating when a woman thinks she entitled over everything I have just because we fvcking each other.... Spits..!!!!

Righteousness2:
You are a wise man and husband.
Continue to obey God , His word and pay your tithe.
Never let anyone not even your wife, cause you to derail from God under any story or grammar.

GOD ALMIGHTY is a God of Principles.
His principles of Struggless living are simple.
Seed time and harvest
Sowing and reaping
Tithings, giving etc


Life is not by Struggle.
Life is a Gift From GOD.
If GOD does not give you, you cant get . If you get it outside God you end up struggling and destroying yourself.

rexbuton:


What do you think about dating a partner with different views concerning tithing and giving? Is it enough grounds to discontinue the relationship?

rexbuton:



She is saying that tithe is supposed to be a personal matter between God and I. So I asked a question that what if I have a 5% voluntary contribution to an overseas fund, and i kept it private, and one day she stumbled on my account statement and found out that I now have 30k in overseas contributions. Would she be happy I didn’t tell her, and she said of course, I would need to let her know.
This answer got me confused, because if tithe should be a private matter, why should my voluntary contributions from my 20% not be a private matter!?

rexbuton:
Please this topic wants to tear the family apart.

We are doing well, each of us earns almost 85k per year, I'm in IT, she's in healthcare, and we both work full-time.
I am a Christian, I have never defaulted in tithing in the last 5 years. Not once.
She says tithing is my personal 'problem'. She uses the word problem specifically. She doesn't pay tithe.

This is the present sharing agreement, I bring 70%, she brings 30%.
This 70-30 covers the cost of living, groceries, nursery fees for our baby, and other bills.
before this sharing, we both bring equal amounts for the house mortgage and the car.
When her family needs money, she insists that we share it 50-50 based on her culture.

For my cybersecurity certifications, I pay from my less than 20%, but I have never complained. God has been faithful. My belief is that my tithe covers for the family.
The good news is that I won a large sum of money from my savings, tens of thousands of dollars. I intend to pay tithe, and channel most of the money to my professional development so I can earn more. I don't think I deserve that money I won, that money was from God.
She thinks otherwise.

What's your opinion?

rexbuton:
The good news is that I won a large sum of money from my savings, tens of thousands of dollars. I intend to pay tithe, and channel most of the money to my professional development so I can earn more. I don't think I deserve that money I won, that money was from God. She thinks otherwise. What's your opinion?

Kobojunkie:
You don't deserve the money but a pastor man who will now use it to pay off his mortgage or even buy his next private jet is the one who is more deserving of it, abi?

For almost 2000 years, Jesus Christ, who never asked anyone for a dime of their money, has never owned a bank account or been shown to have received even a penny from any religious leader, yet Christians(religionists) claim they have given him tons of their wealth by way of their Mogs and Pastors. No be magic be that?

optm:
■ let him be. Jesus Christ didn't condemn giving of tithe either ( ‭Luke 11:42 NKJV‬
[42] “But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.

Kobojunkie:
1. Um... Jesus Christ did not come to condemned anyone for obeying the Old Law. After all, He too lived His life in submission to the same Old Law which is His Father's Will. He instead condemned those who pretended by word only to obey but lived in outright disobedience of it. Hence the reason why He condemned the religious leaders of His time including their doctrines and traditions.

That said, Jesus Christ called His followers to following a different Law which He came to bring to them, and Tithing was not included as a part of the New Law. So, anyone who claims to be of Jesus Christ but pretends to hold onto the old rejects Jesus Christ.

Handing money to your gods of men while pretending you do so on behalf of God or Jesus Christ does not cause God to change His mind or Law to accommodate your particular foolishness. Remember God hates the foolish and has nothing to do with them. Even Jesus Christ said the blind will fall into the same ditch their blind leaders will fall into. There is no part in Jesus Christ for such foolishness.

optm:
■ Well First of, those people paying tithes are not foolish, God instituted tithes as a statue in the old testament in order to make provision for the temple and it's workers the Levites. The work of God here on earth needs finance. If you read the scripture i shared earlier, Jesus said , they should tithe but not neglect important things as love and justice.

Kobojunkie:
Stop lying!

What YHWH instituted in the nation of Israel in the land of Canaan is His Taxation system which doubled as a welfare system for ensuring those He installed as administrators in the land were taken care of. Your tithing system in your religion today manned by your many mogs and gods of men has no connection or resemblance to that system whatsoever. Your religious leaders are merely scammers/thieves stealing from people using the name of a God they have no connection — direct or otherwise — to.

optm:
If you call it a taxation system then it should be payed to the king and not to the temple or priest as seen in the bible

Kobojunkie:
LOL... It was set up by the King— God of Israel— and paid to His Temple to then be used in paying off HIs servants in the Land who served under Him and were given no property by Him. God of Israel was the direct King of Israel until the people began agitating for a human king to sit on earth as His representative.

Read through the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy to learn facts apart from these lies you spew in support of a system that belongs to the AntiChrist abeg!

rexbuton:
Please this topic wants to tear the family apart.

We are doing well, each of us earns almost 85k per year, I'm in IT, she's in healthcare, and we both work full-time.
I am a Christian, I have never defaulted in tithing in the last 5 years. Not once.
She says tithing is my personal 'problem'. She uses the word problem specifically. She doesn't pay tithe.

This is the present sharing agreement, I bring 70%, she brings 30%.
This 70-30 covers the cost of living, groceries, nursery fees for our baby, and other bills.
before this sharing, we both bring equal amounts for the house mortgage and the car.
When her family needs money, she insists that we share it 50-50 based on her culture.

For my cybersecurity certifications, I pay from my less than 20%, but I have never complained. God has been faithful. My belief is that my tithe covers for the family.
The good news is that I won a large sum of money from my savings, tens of thousands of dollars. I intend to pay tithe, and channel most of the money to my professional development so I can earn more. I don't think I deserve that money I won, that money was from God.
She thinks otherwise.

What's your opinion?

optm:
∆ oh you mean when there was a king over Isreal, the king was being paid from the treasury of the temple? I would like you to give me a bible reference. Also i'ld like you to give your view as regards the scripture i shared earlier citing the words of Jesus as regards the tithe they paid.
Tithing can never be antiChrist. It's is the antiChrist that fights against tithing since it's a means of financing the work of the Kingdom of God here on earth

Kobojunkie:
You think yourself cunning. Go read the book about the actual system instead of insisting some universal idea out there in your head is it.

optm:
what book are you talking about?

Kobojunkie:
You are speaking of the Tithing, the Constitutional Law of the Nation of Israel in the land of Canaan is where you will find the terms and conditions stated by God Himself. This happens to be recorded in the four books I gave you earlier and nowhere else.

optm:
I have read those books of the bible and i haven't come accross scriptures that support your argument. Can you pls point them out

Kobojunkie:
That shows you are lying!

Even in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20, God of Israel is recorded to have sealed the document as belongings to the nation of Israel which He constituted in the land of Canaan of those who are descendants of the blood like that is Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Meaning no other can pretend to the same. For you to assert that the God of Israel did not mean that which He stated in His Law means you don't believe in Him at all. His name is probably just a means to an end for you as it is for most religious folks out there.

optm:
‭https://bible.com/bible/114/deu.30.15-20.NKJV
I really do not get your point

Kobojunkie:
1. Um... Jesus Christ did not come to condemned anyone for obeying the Old Law. After all, He too lived His life in submission to the same Old Law which is His Father's Will. He instead condemned those who pretended by word only to obey but lived in outright disobedience of it. Hence the reason why He condemned the religious leaders of His time including their doctrines and traditions.

That said, Jesus Christ called His followers to following a different Law which He came to bring to them, and Tithing was not included as a part of the New Law. So, anyone who claims to be of Jesus Christ but pretends to hold onto the old rejects Jesus Christ.

Handing money to your gods of men while pretending you do so on behalf of God or Jesus Christ does not cause God to change His mind or Law to accommodate your particular foolishness. Remember God hates the foolish and has nothing to do with them. Even Jesus Christ said the blind will fall into the same ditch their blind leaders will fall into. There is no part in Jesus Christ for such foolishness.

Kobojunkie:
This here means my point.

optm:
Do you think the work of God's kingdom on earth needs money?

Kobojunkie:
LOL.... you were on about Tithing and I showed you where the Law on tithing is defined — for the nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan alone — and how it has nothing to do with the Law of the Kingdom of God, now we are on to the Kingdom of God. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

The Kingdom of God does not need your money at all. Jesus Christ, the King in the Kingdom of God, pretty much hinted at this when He informed you that you would have to sell everything you have and own and give it all away to the poor if you wish to become worthy of Him. 😁

optm:
oh really? what if i showed you Jesus and his disciples had a treasury which Judas Iscariot was in charge of?

Kobojunkie:
They had a treasury DOES NOT mean the same thing as needing your money though. Jesus Christ said those who belong to Him are those who do as He commands. So, you are better off showing me where Jesus Christ instead commands you to have a treasury like the one you described there.

optm:

‭John 13:28-29 NKJV‬....
‭Luke 8:2-3 NKJV‬...
The work of the Kingdom of God on earth needs the giving of men. I can perceive you are not really grounded in scriptures and you are making arguments not because you want to know the truth about this matter.
One thing i know is that God's work on earth would not suffer. Whoever wants to give to his work should and whoever doesn't want to can go ahead but God's blessing in giving to his Kingdom work on earth remains forever. Whatever we have is because God gave it to us and giving to the church to further God's Kingdom on earth is never a bad thing. My apologies to OP for derailing your thread

15 “If you love me, you will do what I command.
16 I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper[a] to be with you forever.
17 The Helper is the Spirit of truth. The people of the world cannot accept him, because they don’t see him or know him. But you know him. He lives with you, and he will be in you.
[b]18 “I will not leave you all alone like orphans. I will come back to you.
19 In a very short time the people in the world will not see me anymore. But you will see me. You will live because I live.
20 On that day you will know that I am in the Father. You will know that you are in me and I am in you.
21 Those who really love me are the ones who not only know my commands but also obey them. My Father will love such people, and I will love them. I will make myself known to them.”
22 Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, “Lord, how will you make yourself known to us, but not to the world?”
23 Jesus answered, “All who love me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them. My Father and I will come to them and live with them.
24 But anyone who does not love me does not obey my teaching. This teaching that you hear is not really mine. It is from my Father who sent me. - John 14 vs 15 - 24

7 So Jesus said again, “I assure you, I am the gate for the sheep.
8 All those who came before me were thieves and robbers. The sheep did not listen to them.
9 I am the gate. Whoever enters through me will be saved. They will be able to come in and go out. They will find everything they need. 10 A thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy. But I came to give life—life that is full and good.
11 “I am the good shepherd, and the good shepherd gives his life for the sheep.
12 The worker who is paid to keep the sheep is different from the shepherd. The paid worker does not own the sheep. So when he sees a wolf coming, he runs away and leaves the sheep alone. Then the wolf attacks the sheep and scatters them.
13 The man runs away because he is only a paid worker. He does not really care for the sheep. - John 10 vs 7 - 13

Kobojunkie:
I doubt in this case that I am the one here who is not grounded in Scripture.

Kobojunkie:

Again, this is what Jesus Christ, who Himself lived according to the Old Law of Moses, said to His followers whom He called to a different Kingdom and a different Law...