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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chichilas: 9:11pm On Apr 28 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chichilas: 9:12pm On Apr 28 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by OnMyHonor: 9:39pm On Apr 28 |
TeetoBolt: Have you considered doing "Pilling".. and then put a Floating Raft on the Piles, as foundation? Let your Architect/Engineer explore that option and then compare the Cost. Even that height in the picture, will still sink/settle down, if the ground is very soft. Foundation is of utmost importance when building, do not spare Cost, at this stage please. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 9:54pm On Apr 28 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 7:56am On Apr 29 |
Dear clients For safety sake don’t do heavy pop design under deck! Make it moderate! Make sure you use the right materials as well to avoid story like the one in this video https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6UalToMrtF/?igsh=MXZxbXB3aTFnYzgwMQ== 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Balistic4: 11:33am On Apr 29 |
bolu1986: I think Polystyrene pop will be better in this case since it is way lighter. I am really considering using it for my house, except in the kitchen |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by inze(m): 12:23pm On Apr 29 |
bolu1986: . . . not to mention plenty lights fittings + Chandeliers add to the load 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 12:34pm On Apr 29 |
bolu1986: How do you fix yours? The best practice for decking is to nog the decking with 2×4 or 4×4 and attach/tie the pop to the noggin instead of gumming it direct to the decking. It is a lot of work noggin a decking but it is worth it on safety grounds. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by housepaiinting1(m): 12:35pm On Apr 29 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 3:27pm On Apr 29 |
bolu1986:Maybe you guys need to upgrade your knowledge and methods. I don't think this should be a problem if done properly. It may cost more, but surely there must be a better way to keep the POP suspended under a decking. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 3:29pm On Apr 29 |
Balistic4:Please what's your reason for excluding the kitchen, if you don't mind? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 4:18pm On Apr 29 |
Rany4all:Maybe the material is flammable 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Balistic4: 4:30pm On Apr 29 |
Rany4all:well, just my personal view, it is a soft material and kitchen can be hot for several reasons. So to further ensure that there won't be any fire incident, I want to use normal pop for the kitchen and also ensure that all the wiring in my house will be with thick and quality cables to avoid electrical heating and sparks. This is just my thought, haven't done that yet. Advantages of using polystyrene are just too much to ignore, especial the fast deliver, light weight, and cost. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Balistic4: 4:32pm On Apr 29 |
sonnie10:yes, it is, though I heard they use to coat it with some additives to make it less likely to catch fire, it might melt but won't ignite |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 7:30pm On Apr 29 |
sonnie10:Highly flammable ![]() ![]() From childhood experience, I know it melts when burnt, but I don't think it 'easily ignites' just like petrol does...well at least that's my understanding of something being described as "highly flammable". |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 7:42pm On Apr 29 |
Balistic4:Yes kitchen can get quite hot, but I don't think it can get hot enough to melt or burn a polystyrene ceiling though. One of the many uses of polystyrene is in making food flasks or water bottles in other to keep foods or drinks hot or cold. If polystyrene could melt so easily from kitchen heat, then I don't think it would stand a chance when exposed to a hot food or drink. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by decatalyst(m): 7:54pm On Apr 29 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 8:50pm On Apr 29 |
sonnie10: Well... Its not professional to have a dimension of 458 x 1189. And mm isn't used because of precision. It's a British standard used only by British and those they colonised. Eg America and China don't use it, do we then say they don't have precise measurements? 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by OnMyHonor: 9:04pm On Apr 29 |
diordaves: Woods get weak or eaten from the inside, by those bloody Wood Ants, despite treating the Wood with Solignum, before noggin! Another Option, if someone knows they are doing POP, the necessary thing to do, is to provide 10mm Iron Rod Ready-Hooks embedded in the Decking, at the Concrete Deck Construction stage (like we do Fan Hooks into the Decking at that stage), you can now hang your Pop to such hooks. No matter how heavy or how much you attach to it, it will stay-up like that, as long as the job is properly done by a qualified Installer and they use adequate Cementing/POP material. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by OnMyHonor: 9:20pm On Apr 29 |
Rany4all: Polystyrene Material should not be anywhere near a Kitchen, just like Gas Cylinders, in my own opinion! Yes, it is used to keep things Warm/Cold, that is because it is not a good TRANSMITTER of heat and forms a Heat barrier on each side. But Heat and Naked Fire are two different things. It has a very low flame-point, it is made from highly flammable HydroCarbon Chains of atoms (we actually make Gum out of it, by mixing it with a little Petrol and the Petrol just melts it like butter). If it ever comes into contact with a little fire or hydrocarbon solvent, it flames immediately. Kitchens are that area of our Houses, where a fire is most likely to start (ordinary frying Doodo without paying enough attention or just warming the Oil before putting pepper or putting pepper when the oil is too hot, can result in a fire!). So, l think it is most important, that we do everything humanly possible, not to put anything that can aid the fire, around the Kitchen Area. As for me, l specifically use concrete deck as the Ceiling of all my Kitchens, even upstairs! If a fire starts from a kitchen, the Concrete Deck will prevent the spread of the fire to the Roof (at Uppermost Floor) and give you a fighting-chance, some minutes, to activate your Extinguishers. But if the Kitchen Ceiling is made of anything Polystrene or Plastic, you might not have those vital minutes and it may actually fuel the fire. Why would l take such risk, when l can avoid it? Well, l was just thinking aloud. 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 9:45pm On Apr 29 |
saydfact:Since I have been using micrometer screw gauge here in the US , it has always been in mm. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by OnMyHonor: 9:46pm On Apr 29 |
Balistic4: Wherever you use Polystyrene, the danger of its high flammability will always remain. In my opinion, it is better to restrict Polystyrene use to Parapets, which is mostly outside the building and high up there. And l think the high density versions of it, can be used in Rib Slab Decking (instead of using Concrete Blocks), to make the Decking even lighter and because it will be encased in Concrete, the risk of it catching fire is highly limited. In Houses that have Concrete Decking, as Roof (Over-flows), the Polystyrene can also be used to do such Decking, by encasing them inside a Rib Slab Concrete Decking, this will reduce weight of the Decking and also keep the inside of the House cool, by refusing to transmit the Sun's Heat inside. You need to sleep inside a Room that is decked, to appreciate the level of Heat it gives-off, in the evening. Using Polystyrene as POP in the Bedrooms and Living Rooms for example, will result in lighter weight but we still have to "balance" this advantage, over its high flammability. If you have a choice, l would say: please dont use it anywhere inside the House. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by OnMyHonor: 9:58pm On Apr 29 |
sonnie10: I think there is a little "mix-up" in what @Saydfact was trying to say. "mm" is an SI Unit of measurement of Length, just like Kg is for Mass, Seconds is for Time, Kelvin is for temperature, Ampere for Current, Candela for Luminance, etc. SI Unit stands for "Standards International" Unit. The International System of Units, universally abbreviated SI (from the French Le Système International d'Unités), is the modern metric system of measurement. The SI is the dominant measurement system used in science and international commerce So, it is used by all Countries, as an International Standard for Measurements but Countries also have their own unique standards of Measurement, which are also acceptable and widely used in those Countries. 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Masterbiodun: 10:18pm On Apr 29 |
decatalyst: Can you share your WhatsApp contact? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 11:27pm On Apr 29 |
OnMyHonor:I understand what he is saying very well. I was even told the same in school in Nigeria. But the reality on ground is a little different Here in the US , if you go to hospital for physical exam, your height will be written most times in Centimeters. Something like 160cm height. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beframia: 4:37am On Apr 30 |
I would prefer this method to any other for under deck POP installations. Thanks for bringing this up. OnMyHonor: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by toyeoye(m): 5:39am On Apr 30 |
OnMyHonor: Why don't YOU do the experiment and post your findings here. Coming to conclusions based on surface google search results and hear say does not always hold water. To provide more context, the common type we see used around for construction are flame retardant polystyrene boards and as someone rightly said, it melts on contact with fire and does not catch it at all. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Masterbiodun: 6:39am On Apr 30 |
Masterbiodun:Available!!!! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 11:21am On Apr 30 |
OnMyHonor:All I see here are unfounded fears bro. Next thing we'll hear is that we shouldn't have PVC ceilings, wooden furnitures, clothes, curtains, gas cookers or even electricity in our homes. Forget whatever you've read on Google, polystyrene isn't as flammable as you guys portray it to be. Ceiling that is up there, 3 meters or so away from any naked fire from your cooker, will now suddenly catch fire or melt away and the shirt you wear or your hair never first catch fire ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() There are so many more things that can cause or spread fire in your home. The key thing is just to adhere to building codes and fire safety regulations. Dazzol 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by SpectaSpace: 12:38pm On Apr 30 |
Rany4all: What if he's right? This is not a matter of if, it is a matter of what happens when there's fire outbreak. Regardless of the justifications, polystyrene/Styrofoam are flammable materials! It is important for homeowners to calibrate safety and security measures in their buildings according to threat and risk level. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jaakay: 1:12pm On Apr 30 |
Good afternoon, pls how much will it cost on the average to get a bill of quantity for my upcoming project? |
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