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Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth: 10:09am On Apr 30 |
9) Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife if God had truly given david wives why then is God accusing him of taking someone's wife? |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Westerhoffe(m): 12:28pm On Apr 30 |
StillDtruth: I said it that you're dumb. Olodo. Open your coconut head and learn. These are the paragraphs you hid: 2 Samuel 12 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹ And the LORD sent Nathan unto David. And he came unto him, and said unto him, There were two men in one city; the one rich, and the other poor. ² The rich man had exceeding many flocks and herds: ³ But the poor man had nothing, save one little ewe lamb, which he had bought and nourished up: and it grew up together with him, and with his children; it did eat of his own meat, and drank of his own cup, and lay in his bosom, and was unto him as a daughter. ⁴ And there came a traveller unto the rich man, and he spared to take of his own flock and of his own herd, to dress for the wayfaring man that was come unto him; but took the poor man's lamb, and dressed it for the man that was come to him. ⁵ And David's anger was greatly kindled against the man; and he said to Nathan, As the LORD liveth, the man that hath done this thing shall surely die: ⁶ And he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and because he had no pity. ⁷ And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul; ⁸ And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things. ⁹ Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon. ¹⁰ Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife. ¹¹ Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun. ¹² For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun. ¹³ And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die. ¹⁴ Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die. The accusation leveled against David is in verse 9. I'll keep telling you until you can process it. GOD was angry with David, not because he had many wives but because he KILLED URIAH AND TOOK URIAH'S WIFE. Why didn't GOD send Nathan to him when he was taking other women as his wives? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth: 4:50pm On Apr 30 |
Westerhoffe: If you were not a very stupid mad person you would have seen that you have just proven my case in saying "took Uruah's wife". And that God is not like Nigerian police who rush to arrest a person on a mere suspicion. For God takes Time before He arrests anybody eg The first world, Sodom and Gomorah, Egypt and now this world. "Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil." But you are a mad man and sound reason and behaviour cannot be expected from you. |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth: 4:56pm On Apr 30 |
otipoju: Sorry, you dodged the question. I did not ask about what David did with Saul's wives but asked about "gave him wives". And you people insist on "gave him wives" meaning anybody's wife whether Saul o or Abner o or jonathan o etc and not "gave David the wives of Saul which is what you are changing it into. Because my own deduction tells me that God cannot give any married person another person's wife because it is evil and it breaks His Commandment as shown in Verse 9 "wherefore hast thou despised The Commandment of The Lord, to do evil in His Sight?" Then see the charges that fiollowed Charge 1 "killed Uriah with the sword" Charge 2 "and hast taken his wife to be thy wife (polygamy for David was already married to Micah[ Charge 3 "Slayed Uriah with the sword of the children Ammon". Charge 2 is undisputably a charge against polygamy and any other sin that can be found there!. |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Beautifulday: 5:01pm On Apr 30 |
Westerhoffe: You dignified dumbness and made Olodo special by associating them with that guy. 1 Like |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by FayaBall: 5:06pm On Apr 30 |
Beautifulday: Na so the truth pain you for I see nothing dumb in his presentation. |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Beautifulday: 5:10pm On Apr 30 |
FayaBall: Saul was dead before David inherited his wife. I no wan follow that guy line of thought. It is dumb to think, Israel doesn't have culture. Like you no one marries a dead kings wife except a king. |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by FayaBall: 5:13pm On Apr 30 |
Beautifulday: David inherited Saul wife? That one is not even the issue he raised so where did this come from? |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth: 5:24pm On Apr 30 |
Beautifulday: Would you marry your bosses wives, whether you were single or married? Is it reasonable to do so? Have you seen anyone do that? Before David do.you see anyone who did that? After David, do you see anyone who did that? Then, how do you imagine that an inteligent and normal person like David would do such a thing? Would your wife, in her right senses allow you to marry another woman? If you knew God you would have known that He can never grant a prayer of coveting someone's wife Nor would He grant a prayer of greed and lust! |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Westerhoffe(m): 5:26pm On Apr 30 |
Beautifulday: He's a false doctrine preacher, a liar, and I'll not give him the privilege of misleading people. 1 Like |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth: 5:27pm On Apr 30 |
Beautifulday: If you were so inteligent, why did you not show your brilliance and give me one answer that i can never rebut instead of alligning with a mad person and insalting me from the cover of darkness? |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Westerhoffe(m): 5:40pm On Apr 30 |
StillDtruth: I said it that you're dumb and daft, and you're very very much more of it. You keep avoiding the main aspect and chasing clouts with your empty skull. A man was murdered and his wife taken. GOD intervened and condemned the act, but here you are acting blind, dunce, and gullible. I did not prove your case right but countered it accurately; but because you want to chicken out, you're trying to find a common ground with me, which will not work. All your accusations against GOD are grievous acts of blasphemy and ridicule against the Almighty. You should be editing your comments instead of trying to condemn GOD to justify yourself. Comparing GOD to Nigeria police still shows you're really dumb honestly. If not that you're just so daft, how many years have David had his wives and their children? Why didn't GOD intervene and speak to him against them? Why did GOD rather act so speedily when Uriah's wife was taken? |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Westerhoffe(m): 5:43pm On Apr 30 |
StillDtruth: Every intelligent person here have tried opening your blind eyes and awakening your dried brains, but you refuted because you're just too dull to reason properly. So leave Beautifulday alone and face me. |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth: 5:43pm On Apr 30 |
Westerhoffe: See it Madness Unlimited!!! |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Westerhoffe(m): 5:47pm On Apr 30 |
StillDtruth: Stop crying. Admit your mistakes and take responsibilities for them instead of trying to cover them up with many words. I see you hate instructions… and you know what the Bibe says about such? I won't give you the verses… go find it yourself. All your 'madness madness madness' are just dumb. Don't be pained… |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Beautifulday: 5:49pm On Apr 30 |
Westerhoffe: I thought you were dumb, but it seems foolishness goes with dumbness. If the custom demands that the Oba of benin should take the wives of the former king, does that warrant him to kill the husband of his crush? |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by FayaBall: 5:49pm On Apr 30 |
StillDtruth: Leave am for madness coastal highway to Calabar, abeg. |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by FayaBall: 5:50pm On Apr 30 |
StillDtruth: Valid question. |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth: 5:54pm On Apr 30 |
FayaBall: I don leave am make he dey play out hin madness. |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth: 5:59pm On Apr 30 |
FayaBall: And no normal person don come answer am! |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Westerhoffe(m): 6:03pm On Apr 30 |
FayaBall: Birds of a feather. Should you even in any way have any audacity to comment after your hypocritical display? |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Westerhoffe(m): 6:07pm On Apr 30 |
StillDtruth: FayaBall: Coward! Shying from the truth will not help you. You can keep running forever! |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by otipoju(m): 6:53pm On Apr 30 |
StillDtruth: No way. Stop twisting. Saul was dead. David inherited his wives. Saul was not alive. David slept and impregnated Bathsheba when Uriah was alive. ( he was already married to multiple women and already had many children from various wives and concubines) before meeting bathsheba. His sin was adultery and murder. Not polygamy. 2 Likes |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Petalss(m): 9:28pm On Apr 30 |
StillDtruth, please feel free to share your insights on the story involving David, Saul's wives, and God's intervention in their union. |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth: 9:29pm On Apr 30 |
otipoju: That Same statenent shows that "he inherited" as you say 1 master's house 2 master's wives 3 house of Israel 4 house of Judah Yet it is only Number 2 you see! Are wives and houses not also in the houses of Judah and isreal? So, if they were his as you claim then how come he got into trouble for taking one of the wives, since you say, God gave him? nd why do you not see him tell God, "i took her because i saw you gave every wife and woman in isreal and Judah to me?" otipoju: So you confirm that Davud did commit adultery in breach of Sections 13, 14 and 17 of God's Commandments! Then you confirm that he seriously broke The Laws by being a serial adulterer and bigamist which is polygamy bigamy. noun. big·a·my ˈbi-gə-mē : the crime of marrying someone while already married to someone else. Polygamy Polygamy is the practice of marrying multiple women. So you see, you yourself have described and listed out David's crimes which break The Law. |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Westerhoffe(m): 9:53pm On Apr 30 |
StillDtruth: He slammed the truth on you, you rebuffed because you wanted him to lie like a Satanic grade that you are, which he chose not to. David had several other wives and concubines; GOD never warned him about them until he went ahead to take Bathsheba and kill Uriah, after the attempt to pin the pregnancy on Uriah failed. Now you Satanic grade liar, are you aware of these? |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth: 10:13pm On Apr 30 |
Petalss: Thank you! A fair and proper examination of Nathan's speech shows God gave David That Same statenent shows that "he inherited" as you say 1 master's house 2 master's wives 3 house of Israel 4 house of Judah Yet it is only Number 2 people focus on! Looking at No 1 and 2, does it not show the replacement of Saul, which God had told Samuel that He will do? Consider, this when a king/president is removed from office, is it not that he shall return to his natural and God given place and home? But here, do we not see that God has an ax to grind on Saul's head like APC going against PDP and Emefiele, that He replaced Saul And He did not just stop there and let Saul's family go in peace but He destroyed Saul's house completely till almost no one was left. So, No1 and 2 means that where before, it was David who would humble himself and bow before Saul and his wives and concubines as people will bow before Remi Tinubu and must respect his girlfriends, now power has changed hands as pastors used to say back then; Now, it is they who must humble themselves and bow ro him as he once did to them which of course, if they were properly retired, they wont as you see, ex presidents and their wives do meet with the incubent president and neither do they bow low. They just pay dur respect to each other as former kings plus present king. But God did not want this for Saul, so.He brought Saul's household to their knees. So, it was a glow-ry to David but a punishment and disgrace to Paul's House and former queens. So, no sex there, only humiliation and dsgrace of Saul's house |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Westerhoffe(m): 10:28pm On Apr 30 |
StillDtruth: He slammed the truth on you, you rebuffed because you wanted him to lie like a Satanic grade that you are, which he chose not to. David had several other wives and concubines; GOD never warned him about them until he went ahead to take Bathsheba and kill Uriah, after the attempt to pin the pregnancy on Uriah failed. Now you Satanic grade liar, are you aware of these? |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by otipoju(m): 10:32pm On Apr 30 |
StillDtruth: Menn na wa. You just dey jump from one argument to the other. Go read 1st Samuel 12 especially verse 7 to 9. Gods own words through the prophet Nathan. He said I gave you your master's wives..if that was not enough and you wanted more, I would have given you more. This is the clearest evidence that Polygamy is not a sin against God. God gave David multiple wives...if it was wrong in his sight...God will not do so and express his willingness to give him more if he wanted. In all this, I am sure you have not bothered to even ask yourself, what exactly is Sin. Since you like to Google, Google Harmatiology and learn. Marrying many wives is not a sin. Adultery is the sin. Which actually is stealing another man's property. God certainly preferred a monogamous marriage. But the simple truth is that the number of wives a man marries has zero bearing on his relationship with God. You can be a Polygamist and love God whole heartedly and do his will and God loves you return.. You can be a monogamous and be an abomination before God. You can be a Polygamist and be abhorrent to God. It is your character and actions that will determine. This is the balanced teaching that Jesus taught. "The law of Moses permitted you to divorce your wife because of the hardness of your heart...but it was not so in the beginning." These are Jesus very own words. What the law of Moses that was given to him directly by God permitted can not be a sin. |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by otipoju(m): 10:51pm On Apr 30 |
Westerhoffe: Don't mind the guy. People do only surface level thinking. If God did not command anywhere not to marry more than one wife, and had very healthy loving relationships with men that had more than one and even says that it was he who gave one of such men many wives and if he wanted more, all he needed to do was ask....how than can you say polygamy is a sin. Polygamy and monogamy are human preferences in intersexual relations. Both have merits and demerits according to the times and environments where they are practiced. What God judges an individual by is the condition of your heart towards him and How you treat other human beings. You can be monogamous and be a wicked soul. You can be polygamous and be wicked. You can be monogamous and be a righteous person. You can be polygamous and be a Neighbour's person. Everything marriage ends here on earth, it has no bearing in heaven. 1 Like |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by otipoju(m): 12:49am On May 01 |
StillDtruth: Do you even know that Polygamy became mandatory for a man if his brother died? He was required by Jeswish custom to marry his brothers widow and sleep with her and have her have children. Do you know that God punished by death someone who married his brothers widow but was cunningly avoiding to impregnate her? Bro your knowledge about this thing is limited. Go and learn |
Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth: 8:48am On May 01 |
otipoju: Thank God you.said "Jewish custom" and not The Commandments. And even at that, they were not compelled to marry her, the family just had a right of first refusal as shown by Ruth and Bioaz and Boaz was even a single man as it should be, if they wanted to be righteous. otipoju: Thank God you confirmed that he married her and from the look of it, they were single unmarried men just like Boaz. And secondly, no where in the bible did you see God punishing a person for not marrying his brother's wife whether he was single or married, so sorry, you have nothing, yet again! |
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