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Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Khyrvxjzy: 1:08pm On May 02
MEEVEET:

Yes ooh state a has no road

Do you know state And B existed for 16 years

Akwa ibom had the best infrastructure... But was economically dependent on Abia with no infrastructure

People from Akwa ibom and rivers swam the bad roads in Abia to get to Aba


Again state A or state B

like lagos is economically dependent on abia?
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Gajagojo: 1:14pm On May 02
DMerciful:
Tinubu already damaged his presidency for good by taking rash policy decisions. Unless he is able to improve prices of all things he took over from Buhari, he will be deemed as failed
YOU DEEMED HIM A FAILURE BEFORE HE ENTERED OFFICE
If it is not Obi
it it is not Ibo it is not good enough for you

Stop deceiving yourself
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by MEEVEET: 1:41pm On May 02
Khyrvxjzy:


like lagos is economically dependent on abia?
Lagos is not but that's not because of its infrastructure... Hope u get the point

Abuja have better infrastructure but not economically viable
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by MEEVEET: 1:41pm On May 02
Gajagojo:
YOU DEEMED HIM A FAILURE BEFORE HE ENTERED OFFICE
If it is not Obi
it it is not Ibo it is not good enough for you

Stop deceiving yourself
We expected him to fail and he failed he could have surprised us and performed
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Gajagojo: 1:52pm On May 02
MEEVEET:

We expected him to fail and he failed he could have surprised us and performed
No Anything he does would be failure and if Obi does exactly the same it would be a roaring success in your Ibo heads
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by MEEVEET: 2:01pm On May 02
Gajagojo:

No Anything he does would be failure and if Obi does exactly the same it would be a roaring success in your Ibo heads
So you are saying Tinubu hasn't failed?

Name 2 area he has done well then
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Gajagojo: 2:10pm On May 02
MEEVEET:

So you are saying Tinubu hasn't failed?

Name 2 area he has done well then
I think it is too early to make that statement
I am neither his spokesperson nor his supporter but I want him to succeed because I love my country

Unfortunately there are many that want him to fail because of their spiteful nature and hatred

The reality for me is that neither Obi Atiku nor Kwakwanso could have achieved anything different within 12 months
I have not heard any ideas from any of them to suggest otherwise

They would all have removed subsidy and they would all have inherited the same mess left by Buhari

So one has to be realistic about what anyone can achieve in one year or even 4 years#


Finally

Nigeria is not just about the Federal government there are state governments too

How come none of the Niger Delta states is working despite their huge allocations

none of them even comes close to Lagos in functionality or organization

It is not all about the FG


so the idea that a president will turn around the country alone is self deception

State governors must be held to account
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by commoditiesnig: 2:11pm On May 02
Wow what a brilliant piece. Spot on!
EponObi:
πŸ˜‚ who told you Obidients are against the coastal highway? Shey Dem get brain wey Dem dey use think before ni?

They are only against it because their principal is against it. There's a reason they are called headless mob. Whatever Obi says is right is right and whatever he says is wrong is wrong. They don't have the capacity to think for themselves. Those guys are in a cult but they don't know. In fact, as we've seen many times, if any member of the cult has a different opinion from that of their collective hive, they attack the person collectively.

That said, there's a couple of reasons Obi is against the project.

1. To critisisize the FG/Tinubu. His problem is he doesn't know when to stop and is not sophisticated enough for Nigeria politics.

2. He is against infrastructure. He has said it explicitly that infrastructure cannot drive economic development. Now that the SS governors have commended the FG for the project, Obi has isolated himself in the South. I have never seen anyone self sabotage themselves like Obi does. The entire country now sees him for what he is: he's not someone what will drive infrastructural development if elected president.

3. Obi can't see beyond his nose. He simply lacks vision, because how do you explain not building a single school or block of classroom as a 8 year governor?! 8 f years! His work as Anambra governor is all you need to see he's not the kind of person that can envision a Lekki Trade Zone as far back as 2006, ensures his successors implement it, and 20 years later, have the world's largest refinery sitting on it. Nor is he the kind person that envisions a 3rd mainland bridge as far back as the 1970s, which is now the most important transport infrastructure 40 years later, in a city of more than 20 milion population.

4. He's too rigid/not flexible: The reason he thinks it must either we repair roads OR build coastal highway. The country can do both at the same time.

5. He's myopic: The reason he's very adamant we will abandon the project halfway or complete it after 30 years. Like I said, he has sabotaged himself and he doesn't seem to know it. Tinubu just need to complete like 60% of the highway before next election in 2027 and use it campaign again Obi and Atiku. Obi keeps paving the road of Asiwaju's second tenure without knowing it. Tinubu will complete this road by 2031 because it's a legacy project. And irony of it is that whatever Obi says he will construct during the campaign in 2027 will destroyed with propaganda by oppositions; they will simply tell electorate that he will abandon it or complete in 30 years.

6. Obi is a saboteur to the economic development of the South. When Buhari was building railroad from the North into Niger Republic (this was the peak of how far Buhari went to drive infrastructure development in the North during his tenure), people like Obi and his cultists critized him because they are fo-ols. Buhari used Nigeria's money to develop his region but now that's the turn of the southerners to return the favour and develop their region too with the national cake, Obi is using himself as a stumbling block. Walahai, his disgrace in 2027 will televised in the heavens. He must think everyone is as dull as him. If Jonathan had the courage and balls of Tinubu, the south would have accelerated further than this with regards infrastructure development. This is our turn, a second mistake must not be repeated. It's not a fallacy when we say the North are political savy than the South.
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by theredaddy: 2:31pm On May 02
DMerciful:
Tinubu already damaged his presidency for good by taking rash policy decisions. Unless he is able to improve prices of all things he took over from Buhari, he will be deemed as failed


You can't damage was is not working, Nigeria was tagged jaga jaga even b4 buhari

I agree BAT took some rash decisions, but no one will transform or renovate the country without Nigerians undergoing pain

True change will bring pains to Nigeriana which is inevitable but the only problem i have with these administration is .. only the poor are asked to sacrifice whereas the politicians are just enjoying like its no man business
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by DMerciful(m): 2:36pm On May 02
Why do you guys like gaslighting yourselves?

Rising tide lifts all boats and the Nigerian economy was growing steadily from Obj to Yaradua to GEJ until APC came. Nigerians were getting richer on average until APC came to reverse it.

Data does not lie. Even the minister of finance said the last time the economy grew was GEJ's time. APC knew they stood no chance against GEJ, they had to kidnap chibok girls which unfortunately spiraled out of control
theredaddy:



You can't damage was is not working, Nigeria was tagged jaga jaga even b4 buhari

I agree BAT took some rash decisions, but no one will transform or renovate the country without Nigerians undergoing pain

True change will bring pains to Nigeriana which is inevitable but the only problem i have with these administration is .. only the poor are asked to sacrifice whereas the politicians are just enjoying like its no man business
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by MEEVEET: 2:39pm On May 02
Gajagojo:

I think it is too early to make that statement
I am neither his spokesperson nor his supporter but I want him to succeed because I love my country

Unfortunately there are many that want him to fail because of their spiteful nature and hatred

The reality for me is that neither Obi Atiku nor Kwakwanso could have achieved anything different within 12 months
I have not heard any ideas from any of them to suggest otherwise

They would all have removed subsidy and they would all have inherited the same mess left by Buhari

So one has to be realistic about what anyone can achieve in one year or even 4 years#


Finally

Nigeria is not just about the Federal government there are state governments too

How come none of the Niger Delta states is working despite their huge allocations

none of them even comes close to Lagos in functionality or organization

It is not all about the FG


so the idea that a president will turn around the country alone is self deception

State governors must be held to account
The idea that Obi would not have done anything different is fundamentally wrong

I don't know your background in developmental economics but Obi has been consistently saying same thing since his debate with Osibanjo in 2019

APC problem is thinking building rail way, highway roads and other legacy projects would stimulate the economy

Obi has been proven right that such projects can't stimulate the economy and is even worse if you build them with borrowed money

Buhari did same thing and our economy tanked

Obi says online investment on the people directly and investment in SMEs in the forms of access to credit to businesses and cooperative is what can boast our economy not infrastructure

Hold up investment on new infrastructure right now, just maintain the ones you have now

Invest in your people grow your economy infrastructure would come later

Obi and APC and fundamentally different
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Nightwolf1: 2:40pm On May 02
Khyrvxjzy:


you said i should tell you where it will pass

why not tell me where it will not pass

Am I the one fronting the criminal project? You are constructing a road yet you don't know where the said road would pass through.

Are you senile? grin grin
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Gajagojo: 2:54pm On May 02
MEEVEET:

The idea that Obi would not have done anything different is fundamentally wrong

I don't know your background in developmental economics but Obi has been consistently saying same thing since his debate with Osibanjo in 2019

APC problem is thinking building rail way, highway roads and other legacy projects would stimulate the economy

Obi has been proven right that such projects can't stimulate the economy and is even worse if you build them with borrowed money

Buhari did same thing and our economy tanked

Obi says online investment on the people directly and investment in SMEs in the forms of access to credit to businesses and cooperative is what can boast our economy not infrastructure

Hold up investment on new infrastructure right now, just maintain the ones you have now

Invest in your people grow your economy infrastructure would come later

Obi and APC and fundamentally different
It is not fundamentally wrong
can you stop this arrogant pontificating
It is an opinion about an unknown outcome
You have your opinion
I have mine
Spare me the bullshit about background in developmental economics it is just more irrelevant bullshit
Every Nigerian even the vulcanizer has enough sense to be given a vote to decide what is good for him and his family
So stop all that browbeating use of empty words and phrases
Why do I need a background in developmental economics



There is nothing special about you for you to arrogate to yourself such divinity to talk about whose ideas are fundamentally right or wrong
That is just another opinion among the millions in the Nigerian market
In MY OPINION Obi did not do anything to improve the lives of Ndi Anambra that I want for the people of my state which we do not already have, He did mot persuade me and did not persuade most Nigerians except his kinsmen

So if you cannot talk rationally and respectfully there really is no point to this is there
You will not persuade me and I will not persuade you so let us call it a 1.1 goalless
Is this government not investing in people with its consumer credit scheme and student loan? Must it be doine Obi's way

Please give the man there time to work and if he does not perform vote him out in 2027

He is the president not Obi
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by MEEVEET: 3:07pm On May 02
Gajagojo:

It is not fundamentally wrong
can you stop this arrogant pontificating
It is an opinion about an unknown outcome
You have your opinion
I have mine
Spare me the bullshit about background in developmental economics it is just more irrelevant bullshit
Every Nigerian even the vulcanizer has enough sense to be given a vote to decide what is good for him and his family
So stop all that browbeating use of empty words and phrases
Why do I need a background in developmental economics



There is nothing special about you for you to arrogate to yourself such divinity to talk about whose ideas are fundamentally right or wrong
That is just another opinion among the millions in the Nigerian market
In MY OPINION Obi did not do anything to improve the lives of Ndi Anambra that I want for the people of my state which we do not already have, He did mot persuade me and did not persuade most Nigerians except his kinsmen

So if you cannot talk rationally and respectfully there really is no point to this is there
You will not persuade me and I will not persuade you so let us call it a 1.1 goalless
Is this government not investing in people with its consumer credit scheme and student loan? Must it be doine Obi's way

Please give the man there time to work and if he does not perform vote him out in 2027

He is the president not Obi
Obi didn't do anything to improve Anambra people's life?

Even when it was clear he was the governor with most improvements in HDI?.

Even with his educational reforms

Health sector reforms

Best performance in MDGs goals?

How do you measure impact on people's life?

Common na be serious
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Blaze14k: 3:14pm On May 02
Gajagojo:
YOU DEEMED HIM A FAILURE BEFORE HE ENTERED OFFICE
If it is not Obi
it it is not Ibo it is not good enough for you

Stop deceiving yourself

So when obi didn't contest who were the igbos voting
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by theredaddy: 3:40pm On May 02
DMerciful:
Why do you guys like gaslighting yourselves?

Rising tide lifts all boats and the Nigerian economy was growing steadily from Obj to Yaradua to GEJ until APC came. Nigerians were getting richer on average until APC came to reverse it.

Data does not lie. Even the minister of finance said the last time the economy grew was GEJ's time. APC knew they stood no chance against GEJ, they had to kidnap chibok girls which unfortunately spiraled out of control



lemme ask, if you are living comfortably well and acquiring wealth ...can a stranger walk up to you n convince you that you are poor/wretched

If Nigerians were doing so well under GEJ, how can APC convince us we are not ...when our Lives can tell

The way some people carry these GEJ matter for head, one would think Nigeria was eldorado then ... if GEJ knows and he is convinced he did so well why did he not "recontest" ... the APC handcuff him
You hate APC so much becos of GEJ, but same jonathan wines and dine with Tinubu .. should that not tell you the joke is on you.
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Gajagojo: 4:01pm On May 02
Blaze14k:


So when obi didn't contest who were the igbos voting
Is that my problem
Who Ibos vote for does not really make any difference in Nigeria Did they vote Buhari, Abiola or Shagari?
Their votes don't make any difference
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by DMerciful(m): 4:08pm On May 02
The bulk of Nigeria population is not enlightened, so it was easy, with enough money to pay media and influencers, gaslight and deceive the public.

They were even telling the public that there was nothing like subsidy. Buhari said if anybody says he is subsidizing anything, that person is a fraud and you know how much northerners trust Buhari.

A prominent politician said petrol should be N40 and Fashola said theh can fix electricity for good in six months, that it was not rocket science.

America supported the opposition because GEJ govt had passed antigay law in 2014.

The North introduced massive insecurity because they said GEJ promised to contest hust one term.

Finally, if you decide to pretend you don't know these things, I can't help you
theredaddy:




lemme ask, if you are living comfortably well and acquiring wealth ...can a stranger walk up to you n convince you that you are poor/wretched

If Nigerians were doing so well under GEJ, how can APC convince us we are not ...when our Lives can tell

The way some people carry these GEJ matter for head, one would think Nigeria was eldorado then ... if GEJ knows and he is convinced he did so well why did he not "recontest" ... the APC handcuff him
You hate APC so much becos of GEJ, but same jonathan wines and dine with Tinubu .. should that not tell you the joke is on you.
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Blaze14k: 4:13pm On May 02
Gajagojo:
Is that my problem
Who Ibos vote for does not really make any difference in Nigeria Did they vote Buhari, Abiola or Shagari?
Their votes don't make any difference

See ignorance in full display.. the buhari they didn't vote how did he perform beside abiola won one state in southeast. Check the people igbos voted and the one yoruba voted and see how they performed. Don't forget ojukwu contested against Obasanjo igbos voted Obasanjo and left ojukwu. You guys don't have brain cos you talk out of ignorance and tribalism
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Gajagojo: 4:29pm On May 02
Blaze14k:


See ignorance in full display.. the buhari they didn't vote how did he perform beside abiola won one state in southeast. Check the people igbos voted and the one yoruba voted and see how they performed. Don't forget ojukwu contested against Obasanjo igbos voted Obasanjo and left ojukwu. You guys don't have brain cos you talk out of ignorance and tribalism
Ibos vote do not matter
They do not affect the outcome
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by theredaddy: 4:52pm On May 02
DMerciful:
The bulk of Nigeria population is not enlightened, so it was easy, with enough money to pay media and influencers, gaslight and deceive the public.

They were even telling the public that there was nothing like subsidy. Buhari said if anybody says he is subsidizing anything, that person is a fraud and you know how much northerners trust Buhari.

A prominent politician said petrol should be N40 and Fashola said theh can fix electricity for good in six months, that it was not rocket science.

America supported the opposition because GEJ govt had passed antigay law in 2014.

The North introduced massive insecurity because they said GEJ promised to contest hust one term.

Finally, if you decide to pretend you don't know these things, I can't help you


So you need to be enlightened to know if you are bellefull know

An illiterate that is rich does not know that he is rich, ... make una dey reason b4 una go post naw

whatever the opposition said during GEJ is what it should be, we told GEJ to bring down the prices of things down to how he met it and that is what Nigerians are telling tinubu now ... or are we speaking latin

The last time Tinubu showed himself to crowd in Lagos, did he get a pleasant remark from the yorubas

Did Southsouth ever criticize GEJ to his face, or did the north tell Buhari ebin pa waa

if East never saw any thing wrong in whatever GEJ does, how will they when there son occupy aso rock
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by DMerciful(m): 4:58pm On May 02
Run along, you're a mischievous fellow.
theredaddy:



So you need to be enlightened to know if you are bellefull know

An illiterate that is rich does not know that he is rich, ... make una dey reason b4 una go post naw

whatever the opposition said during GEJ is what it should be, we told GEJ to bring down the prices of things down to how he met it and that is what Nigerians are telling tinubu now ... or are we speaking latin

The last time Tinubu showed himself to crowd in Lagos, did he get a pleasant remark from the yorubas

Did Southsouth ever criticize GEJ to his face, or did the north tell Buhari ebin pa waa

if East never saw any thing wrong in whatever GEJ does, how will they when there son occupy aso rock
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Blaze14k: 5:09pm On May 02
Gajagojo:
Ibos vote do not matter
They do not affect the outcome

Keep telling yourself that.. no now take igbos out of Nigeria by yourself. You open mouth dey talk trashπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€‘πŸ€‘
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Gajagojo: 5:12pm On May 02
Blaze14k:


Keep telling yourself that.. no now take igbos out of Nigeria by yourself. You open mouth dey talk trashπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€‘πŸ€‘
Ibos did not vote Buhari, Abiola or Shagari, Tinubu and they won
Logically we can tell Igbo votes do not matter
Yoruba voted for Jonathan he won
Yoruba voted agains Jonathan he lost

So we know Yoruba votes matter
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Blaze14k: 5:22pm On May 02
Gajagojo:
Ibos did not vote Buhari, Abiola or Shagari, Tinubu and they won
Logically we can tell Igbo votes do not matter
Yoruba voted for Jonathan he won
Yoruba voted agains Jonathan he lost

So we know Yoruba votes matter

In 1999 yoruba voted against Obasanjo but igbos vote for him and he won. In same vain yoruba voted falae he lost.
Bro you are not the person that decide the winner it is the north. Stop feeling too funky u piece of shit. I just used your own example to show u how shallow minded you are
Go learn Ur history ozuoπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Gajagojo: 5:29pm On May 02
Blaze14k:


In 1999 yoruba voted against Obasanjo but igbos vote for him and he won. In same vain yoruba voted falae he lost.
Bro you are not the person that decide the winner it is the north. Stop feeling too funky u piece of shit. I just used your own example to show u how shallow minded you are
Go learn Ur history ozuoπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
So you gave one instance out of about 7 presidential elections

and in that instance it was TWO Yorubas against each othe 1 out of 7

If it was just the North Buhari would have won a long time ago

He won because Yoruba backed him

Atiku won the NE and NW in 2023 still Tinubu won so you analysis is hollow

Atiku won
NW
Sokoto
Kebbi
Katsina
Kaduna

Kwankwaso won Kanp

NE

Atiku won
Yobe
Gombe
Bauchi
Taraba
Adamawa


Still it took him nowhere

Obi won the entire SE


who pass you pass you not by stronghead grin

Ibo votes are irrelevant and have NEVER determined the outcome but Yoruba votes removed Jonathan
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Blaze14k: 5:37pm On May 02
Gajagojo:
So you gave one instance out of about 7 presidential elections

and in that instance it was TWO Yorubas against each othe 1 out of 7

If it was just the North Buhari would have won a long time ago

He won because Yoruba backed him

Atiku won the NE and NW in 2023 still Tinubu won so you analysis is hollow

Atiku won
NW
Sokoto
Kebbi
Katsina
Kaduna

Kwankwaso won Kanp

NE

Atiku won
Yobe
Gombe
Bauchi
Taraba
Adamawa


Still it took him nowhere

Obi won the entire SE


who pass you pass you not by stronghead grin

Ibo votes are irrelevant and have NEVER determined the outcome but Yoruba votes removed Jonathan

Go check who voted yaradua.. bro please stop feeling like a clown cos you sound like one. Now I've given you an example with yaradua.

Whether Obasanjo and falae are yoruba it doesn't matter what matters is who the yorubas voted for
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Gajagojo: 6:02pm On May 02
Blaze14k:


Go check who voted yaradua.. bro please stop feeling like a clown cos you sound like one. Now I've given you an example with yaradua.

Whether Obasanjo and falae are yoruba it doesn't matter what matters is who the yorubas voted for
Yoruba voted Yaradua
The point is Ibo votes are not what make a difference
They are wasted votes
They couldn't help Jonathan when Yoruba decided he should go
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Blaze14k: 6:22pm On May 02
Gajagojo:

Yoruba voted Yaradua
The point is Ibo votes are not what make a difference
They are wasted votes
They couldn't help Jonathan when Yoruba decided he should go

Your point is completely useless u should take igbo votes out completely let's see it's useless. You have no point at all. Infact check the candidates igbos voted and the one yoruba voted and see there performance.

Besides igbos voted very well for yaradua I don't know what u talking about
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Gajagojo: 6:31pm On May 02
Blaze14k:


Your point is completely useless u should take igbo votes out completely let's see it's useless. You have no point at all. Infact check the candidates igbos voted and the one yoruba voted and see there performance.

Besides igbos voted very well for yaradua I don't know what u talking about
Ibo votes down make a difference
It is just like scoring goals number 9
When the score is 8-0 in a cup final
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by Blaze14k: 6:44pm On May 02
Gajagojo:

Ibo votes down make a difference
It is just like scoring goals number 9
When the score is 8-0 in a cup final


Take igbo votes out now since it don't matter let's see if hausa and yoruba will vote same person. I wonder why u people think like goatπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Re: Why Is Obi And Obedient Against Infrastructural Development? by idealogical: 6:59pm On May 02
They don't believe in infrastructure, progress and development.

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