The supreme court will issue it's Immunity decision this month and IMO it's certainly going to be bad for criminal trump in any way.

I've followed every bit of the crimes he committed since he started raising voting conspiracies in 2017 and one thing is clear that there are a handful of non official acts he did that is in the criminal indictment.

And Scotus are going to allow those parts to go back to Judge Chutkan.

They may somehow eke out an Immunity shit storm like criminal trump trying to make now-indicted Jeff Clark AG is protected by Immunity but that doesn't even matter in DOJ's case.

I doubt this Scotus will go rogue.

So I'm hopeful of the downfall of this criminal traitor criminal trump and his little loudy cult diminished in the coming months and years. Amen.

Great analysis that shows three certainties possibly in this Universe of ours.
https://www.justsecurity.org/95568/what-happens-after-supreme-court-rejects-trumps-absolute-immunity-mapping-3-scenarios/

This phone call was played out in court.

You better settle this God damn story. Because if he loses this election, and he is going to lose, if he loses this election we lose all fucking leverage this case is worth zero. And if that happens, I'm going to sue you because you lost this opportunity," said Stormy's lawyer Keith Davidson to Trump's then-fixer Michael Cohen, who then badly advised Trump to pay the extortion money.

This clearly shows Stormy Daniel and her lawyer were extorting Trump. Her lawyer has a history of settling such pay demands.He was involved in another case where Trump paid off McDougal and also on Hulk Hogan sex tape that bankrupted a tabloid.

basilico:
This phone call was played out in court.

You better settle this God damn story. Because if he loses this election, and he is going to lose, if he loses this election we lose all fucking leverage this case is worth zero. And if that happens, I'm going to sue you because you lost this opportunity," said Stormy's lawyer Keith Davidson to Trump's then-fixer Michael Cohen, who then badly advised Trump to pay the extortion money.

This clearly shows Stormy Daniel and her lawyer were extorting Trump. Her lawyer has a history of settling such pay demands.He was involved in another case where Trump paid off McDougal and also on Hulk Hogan sex tape that bankrupted a tabloid.

Her testimony was irrelevant to the case. They are just trying to make trump look bad. The defence brought this and the partisan judge still brought her in. Her testimony or cross examination was a disaster to the prosecution but we are in New York.

At the end of the day trump will appeal. This is just to keep him from campaigning.

bemeruca:


Her testimony was irrelevant to the case. They are just trying to make trump look bad. The defence brought this and the partisan judge still brought her in. Her testimony or cross examination was a disaster to the prosecution but we are in New York.

At the end of the day trump will appeal. This is just to keep him from campaigning.

Trying to make Trump look bad?
Trump does not look bad, he prides himself in being bad. He "grabs em by the pusay", he is liable for raping Eugene Carrol, he is being accused of by 2 dozen women of rape/sexual molestation , he bleeped a IndecentStar raw just a few weeks after his wife gave birth, he had a one year affair with Karen Mcdougal, a playboy model, less than one year after getting married to Melania.

wirinet:


Trying to make Trump look bad?
Trump does not look bad, he prides himself in being bad. He "grabs em by the pusay", he is liable for raping Eugene Carrol, he is being accused of by 2 dozen women of rape/sexual molestation , he bleeped a IndecentStar raw just a few weeks after his wife gave birth, he had a one year affair with Karen Mcdougal, a playboy model, less than one year after getting married to Melania.

That's old. Why bring that when it is not relevant to the case? If you are in a court for armed falsifying documents, how does a bathroom talk you had decades ago connect with it?

How does all this you mentioned connect with the document even if Eugene Carol did not actually prove he raped her according to the jury?

What evidence did she show to prove sexual assault? But again, how is that connected to this case?

bemeruca:


That's old. Why bring that when it is not relevant to the case? If you are in a court for armed falsifying documents, how does a bathroom talk you had decades ago connect with it?

How does all this you mentioned connect with the document even if Eugene Carol did not actually prove he raped her according to the jury?

What evidence did she show to prove sexual assault? But again, how is that connected to this case?

In the case of Stormy Daniel (and Karen Mcdougal), it was important that the prosecution prove thar sex (consensual) did take place. Because Trump has been lying (as usual) that he never met that woman. If no sex took place, then it would be difficult convincing the jury that the women needed to be hushed in the first place. It then becomes an extortion or blackmail. So the prosecution need to provide the reason why the women needed to be hushed.
Next they would then need to provide evidence of how the money was paid, and how it was covered up as campaign expenses.
The only way Trump can escape is to feign ignorance. Saying he was not aware that the payments was for hushing up the women or that he was not aware that the accountant made the mistake of putting the money under campaign expenses.

wirinet:


In the case of Stormy Daniel (and Karen Mcdougal), it was important that the prosecution prove thar sex (consensual) did take place. Because Trump has been lying (as usual) that he never met that woman. If no sex took place, then it would be difficult convincing the jury that the women needed to be hushed in the first place. It then becomes an extortion or blackmail. So the prosecution need to provide the reason why the women needed to be hushed.
Next they would then need to provide evidence of how the money was paid, and how it was covered up as campaign expenses.
The only way Trump can escape is to feign ignorance. Saying he was not aware that the payments was for hushing up the women or that he was not aware that the accountant made the mistake of putting the money under campaign expenses.

How does proving sex have anything to do with the falsified document charge?
The charge is not about hush money, trump is not disputing paying stormy. Please keep up. Must you feed on any BS as long as its against trump?

bemeruca:


How does proving sex have anything to do with the falsified document charge?
The charge is not about hush money, trump is not disputing paying stormy. Please keep up. Must you feed on any BS as long as its against trump?

Why did Trump pay the hush money since he kept insisting he never has sex with the woman? And why was the documents falsified to cover up the payments.

I know Trump is your role model. I would never let someone that holds trump as a role model near my daughter or even any member of my family.

wirinet:


In the case of Stormy Daniel (and Karen Mcdougal), it was important that the prosecution prove thar sex (consensual) did take place. Because Trump has been lying (as usual) that he never met that woman. If no sex took place, then it would be difficult convincing the jury that the women needed to be hushed in the first place. It then becomes an extortion or blackmail. So the prosecution need to provide the reason why the women needed to be hushed.
Next they would then need to provide evidence of how the money was paid, and how it was covered up as campaign expenses.
The only way Trump can escape is to feign ignorance. Saying he was not aware that the payments was for hushing up the women or that he was not aware that the accountant made the mistake of putting the money under campaign expenses.

Technically, they didn't need Stormy to testify, but the Prosecution has a good case why her Testimony was necessary. It was a good decision.

1.) Trump's attorney's made a tactical mistake. In opening statements, they argued that Stormy was lying about having sex with Trump. Because they did that, it allowed the Prosecution to go into further details/description of what happened to rehab their witness and prove she wasn't lying. Trump's attorneys could have easily stipulated that they did have Sex and left it there and the Judge wouldn't have agreed to further details coming out. I think the decision was borne of both not having a defense and Trump probably telling them to attack Stormy. He was worried more about the political optics of admitting he slept with a Porn Star while his wife was pregnant than the court case. And it hurt him.

2.) Trump has claimed he didn't know about the payment to Stormy and at the same time if the payment was made it was made for Personal reasons not Political reasons. So, by Stormy telling her story, it allowed the Jury to understand why Trump was so concerned about letting the story come out weeks before the election. Look at the uproar it's caused now.. imagine if it was right after the "pussy grabber" tape was released. So, her details bolstered their case - He paid her off to hide it for political reasons.

wirinet:

Why did Trump pay the hush money since he kept insisting he never has sex with the woman? And why was the documents falsified to cover up the payments.

I know Trump is your role model. I would never let someone that holds trump as a role model near my daughter or even any member of my family.

this is irrelevant to the case. how many times will I tell you? trump is not disputing he paid Hush money. Can you be open-minded for a second at least? She signed a document that she and Trump never had sex. but this is irrelevant to the case. what sex position she did is irrelevant

ijebosb:


Technically, they didn't need Stormy to testify, but the Prosecution has a good case why her Testimony was necessary. It was a good decision.

1.) Trump's attorney's made a tactical mistake. In opening statements, they argued that Stormy was lying about having sex with Trump. Because they did that, it allowed the Prosecution to go into further details/description of what happened to rehab their witness and prove she wasn't lying. Trump's attorneys could have easily stipulated that they did have Sex and left it there and the Judge wouldn't have agreed to further details coming out. I think the decision was borne of both not having a defense and Trump probably telling them to attack Stormy. He was worried more about the political optics of admitting he slept with a Porn Star while his wife was pregnant than the court case. And it hurt him.

2.) Trump has claimed he didn't know about the payment to Stormy and at the same time if the payment was made it was made for Personal reasons not Political reasons. So, by Stormy telling her story, it allowed the Jury to understand why Trump was so concerned about letting the story come out weeks before the election. Look at the uproar it's caused now.. imagine if it was right after the "pussy grabber" tape was released. So, her details bolstered their case - He paid her off to hide it for political reasons.

finally, this cretin gets it. this is not his take initially

ijebosb:


Technically, they didn't need Stormy to testify, but the Prosecution has a good case why her Testimony was necessary. It was a good decision.

1.) Trump's attorney's made a tactical mistake. In opening statements, they argued that Stormy was lying about having sex with Trump. Because they did that, it allowed the Prosecution to go into further details/description of what happened to rehab their witness and prove she wasn't lying. Trump's attorneys could have easily stipulated that they did have Sex and left it there and the Judge wouldn't have agreed to further details coming out. I think the decision was borne of both not having a defense and Trump probably telling them to attack Stormy. He was worried more about the political optics of admitting he slept with a Porn Star while his wife was pregnant than the court case. And it hurt him.

2.) Trump has claimed he didn't know about the payment to Stormy and at the same time if the payment was made it was made for Personal reasons not Political reasons. So, by Stormy telling her story, it allowed the Jury to understand why Trump was so concerned about letting the story come out weeks before the election. Look at the uproar it's caused now.. imagine if it was right after the "pussy grabber" tape was released. So, her details bolstered their case - He paid her off to hide it for political reasons.

That's what MAGA members would never understand. Since Trump and his defense insist that no sex took place, it became imperative for the prosecution to prove that sex indeed took place. And to prove sex did take place, stormy Daniel would need to provide the circumstances that led to the sex and even details of the sex itself. I was even expecting her to give us the exact shape and size of his Dìck.

The defense played into the hands of the prosecution.

wirinet:


That's what MAGA members would never understand. Since Trump and his defense insist that no sex took place, it became imperative for the prosecution to prove that sex indeed took place. And to prove sex did take place, stormy Daniel would need to provide the circumstances that led to the sex and even details of the sex itself. I was even expecting her to give us the exact shape and size of his Dìck.

The defense played into the hands of the prosecution.

hahaha

if you are a porn star blackmailing trump or extorting trump you will receive the key to the city

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Uerc-cAyZ4

bemeruca:


hahaha

if you are a porn star blackmailing trump or extorting trump you will receive the key to the city

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Uerc-cAyZ4

https://twitter.com/i/status/1789260922042650988

Bill Maher doesnt buy Stormy's new story.

Listening to that and then listen to what she says after that, and then we're going to talk about the trial because it's quite in variants of what she said to me in 2018."

MAHER: Okay, you say it's not a MeToo case,

STORMY: It is not a MeToo case. I mean, I wasn't assaulted. I wasn't attacked, or raped, coerced or blackmailed. They tried to shove me in the MeToo to box it for their own agenda. And first of all, I didn't want any part of that because it's not the truth, and I'm not a victim in that regard.

basilico:


https://twitter.com/i/status/1789260922042650988

Bill Maher doesnt buy Stormy's new story.

Listening to that and then listen to what she says after that, and then we're going to talk about the trial because it's quite in variants of what she said to me in 2018."

MAHER: Okay, you say it's not a MeToo case,

STORMY: It is not a MeToo case. I mean, I wasn't assaulted. I wasn't attacked, or raped, coerced or blackmailed. They tried to shove me in the MeToo to box it for their own agenda. And first of all, I didn't want any part of that because it's not the truth, and I'm not a victim in that regard.

My own is why was she a witness when she has not relevance?

bemeruca:


My own is why was she a witness when she has not relevance?

****Edited.

Obrigardo:
The supreme court will issue it's Immunity decision this month and IMO it's certainly going to be bad for criminal trump in any way.

I've followed every bit of the crimes he committed since he started raising voting conspiracies in 2017 and one thing is clear that there are a handful of non official acts he did that is in the criminal indictment.

And Scotus are going to allow those parts to go back to Judge Chutkan.

They may somehow eke out an Immunity shit storm like criminal trump trying to make now-indicted Jeff Clark AG is protected by Immunity but that doesn't even matter in DOJ's case.

I doubt this Scotus will go rogue.

So I'm hopeful of the downfall of this criminal traitor criminal trump and his little loudy cult diminished in the coming months and years. Amen.

Great analysis that shows three certainties possibly in this Universe of ours.
https://www.justsecurity.org/95568/what-happens-after-supreme-court-rejects-trumps-absolute-immunity-mapping-3-scenarios/

I predict the Court will hold that sitting Presidents aren’t immune from criminal liability for actions that fall outside the official purview of their office.

PDPGuy:


I predict the Court will hold that sitting Presidents aren’t immune from criminal liability for actions that fall outside the official purview of their office.

You are right. That's essentially what the Constitution says. Mind you, American Constitution was a direct rebuke to the rules of Kings of Britain. I doubt this scotus will nuke itself for a low quality person like criminal trump.

basilico:
This phone call was played out in court.

You better settle this God damn story. Because if he loses this election, and he is going to lose, if he loses this election we lose all fucking leverage this case is worth zero. And if that happens, I'm going to sue you because you lost this opportunity," said Stormy's lawyer Keith Davidson to Trump's then-fixer Michael Cohen, who then badly advised Trump to pay the extortion money.

This clearly shows Stormy Daniel and her lawyer were extorting Trump. Her lawyer has a history of settling such pay demands.He was involved in another case where Trump paid off McDougal and also on Hulk Hogan sex tape that bankrupted a tabloid.

You are so shameless man. So it's now down to Cohen's bad advice? What a piece of serious shit you are 😅

basilico:


https://twitter.com/i/status/1789260922042650988

Bill Maher doesnt buy Stormy's new story.

Listening to that and then listen to what she says after that, and then we're going to talk about the trial because it's quite in variants of what she said to me in 2018."

MAHER: Okay, you say it's not a MeToo case,

STORMY: It is not a MeToo case. I mean, I wasn't assaulted. I wasn't attacked, or raped, coerced or blackmailed. They tried to shove me in the MeToo to box it for their own agenda. And first of all, I didn't want any part of that because it's not the truth, and I'm not a victim in that regard.

Isn't that Bill Maher's opinion? What he feels?
So now you parrot late night comedy shows now? If you followed every details of this trial you'll see Stormy in her testimony never alluded that she was raped or shit like that.
She was just repulsed by criminal trump. How pervy can you be to be repulsed by an adult film star, you got to be criminal trump to beat that. The criminal saw ivanka in stormy daniels, so it was criminal trump who went ahead to poach stormy.

bemeruca:


My own is why was she a witness when she has not relevance?

You are truly not an intelligent person. You are dumb as a rock.
Stormy is one of the prosecution witness highlight, as she links AMI pecker to karen to Cohen and criminal trump and back again.
Cohen went to jail coz of her, lol.
So it's pertinent to hear her testimony about criminal trumps interference scheme.
Maga cultists literally suspend their brain functions 🤣😭😭😅😂😭😅

Obrigardo:


You are right. That's essentially what the Constitution says. Mind you, American Constitution was a direct rebuke to the rules of Kings of Britain. I doubt this scotus will nuke itself for a low quality person like criminal trump.

They will never give a ruling. They will kick it back to lower courts.

wirinet:


That's what MAGA members would never understand. Since Trump and his defense insist that no sex took place, it became imperative for the prosecution to prove that sex indeed took place. And to prove sex did take place, stormy Daniel would need to provide the circumstances that led to the sex and even details of the sex itself. I was even expecting her to give us the exact shape and size of his Dìck.

The defense played into the hands of the prosecution.

Maga cultists like basilico loco are not even denying the sex anymore, their hill to die on is that stormy is blackmailing the criminal. These people are the supremely dumbest people in the known universe.

basilico:

They will never give a ruling. They will kick it back to lower courts.

It won't do any good because Judge Chutkan won't reverse her ruling, the Appeals court won't bend the law and a trial date will be announced.

Obrigardo:


You are truly not an intelligent person. You are dumb as a rock.
Stormy is one of the prosecution witness highlight, as she links AMI pecker to karen to Cohen and criminal trump and back again.
Cohen went to jail coz of her, lol.
So it's pertinent to hear her testimony about criminal trumps interference scheme.
Maga cultists literally suspend their brain functions 🤣😭😭😅😂😭😅

Her testimony was of no value to the case. Alvin Bragg is not prosecuting the case for justice. He is persecuting Trump. The judge knows there is nothing there, They know an appeals court will throw away the case.
In the meantime damage Trump as much as they can, Michael Cohen is selling Jail Trump tshirts and Trump cant say anything about him because gag order.

basilico:


Her testimony was of no value to the case. Alvin Bragg is not prosecuting the case for justice. He is persecuting Trump. The judge knows there is nothing there, They know an appeals court will throw away the case.
In the meantime damage Trump as much as they can, Michael Cohen is selling Jail Trump tshirts and Trump cant say anything about him because gag order.

You literally not making sense. The case of the prosecution is to show criminal trump had real intent and motive to hide the stormy and Karen affair from hitting the media just after the grab them by the pussy.
The RNC already pulled support so killing the stormy story was criminal trumps vietnam war. Did you suspend your brain to that fact?

Obrigardo:


You are truly not an intelligent person. You are dumb as a rock.
Stormy is one of the prosecution witness highlight, as she links AMI pecker to karen to Cohen and criminal trump and back again.
Cohen went to jail coz of her, lol.
So it's pertinent to hear her testimony about criminal trumps interference scheme.
Maga cultists literally suspend their brain functions 🤣😭😭😅😂😭😅

people, they born children o. lol

Obrigardo:


Maga cultists like basilico loco are not even denying the sex anymore, their hill to die on is that stormy is blackmailing the criminal. These people are the supremely dumbest people in the known universe.

Whether they slept together or not, does the public have to know, is paying someone to keep quiet a crime?
Can those 51 retired IC bosses and media be charged for lying about Biden laptop?

Clinton got fined for using campaign funds to pay for Steele dossier. Obama was also fined for using campaign funds.
Its a misdemeanor, not a felony.
Trump did not pay stormy from campaign funds.

basilico:


Whether they slept together or not, does the public have to know, is paying someone to keep quiet a crime?

OMG! 😂😂😅🤣😭😅

Na wa ooo

feedthenation:

---MAGAs began to leave the Wildwood, NJ rally while Trump was still speaking!. They couldn’t take it anymore---

https://x.com/harryjsisson/status/1789451036379201710

nice lie

feedthenation:

---MAGAs began to leave the Wildwood, NJ rally while Trump was still speaking!. They couldn’t take it anymore---

https://x.com/harryjsisson/status/1789451036379201710

It was a pathetic site. I almost shed tears for the criminal - naaa, I was delighted the criminal is getting what he deserves. People are so tired of his ridiculous rants and lies.
The criminal douchebag even tried to take credit for booming Bidens economic successes, even basilico loco would be ashamed of it