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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by directonpc(m): 11:40am On May 16 |
heroshark:As for POF, the university will withdraw such students if they are unable to complete their fees. People are learning how it's impossible to work and pay your tuition after arriving in the UK. Does stopping students from bringing dependants end fraudulent POF 100%? I'll guess NO. And UKVI should maybe do more to verify the availability of funds. I don't even see how fraudulent POF is connected to dependant visa. If anything, having a dependant makes life easier for the student as their dependant is allowed to work full-time and support them. For your point on COS, wetin concern student with COS? Even UKVI has blocked students from switching visa before they complete their studies abi? Which I think is a great move. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by directonpc(m): 11:49am On May 16 |
Zahra29:People successfully bringing fake spouses in can show a flaw in the level visa review process. But in a case where it manages to happen, maybe a more obvious way to address your second point would be to restrict dependants from switching visa until their MA has completed their studies. There are a lot of students in the UK without dependants (fake or real). There are also a lot of students moving out of the UK after their studies. Between February and now, I know 2 Indians on my street who left the UK because of the unavailability of professional work in their fields. I believe the total close of dependant visa is bad for those who genuinely seek a better life abroad. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:24pm On May 16 |
directonpc: Mind you the fake spouses would have presented "genuine" marriage certificates and other evidence which would have been received in good faith by the ECO. The bolded is a good idea, but the UK government is too generous sometimes lol. Yes I agree that closing the dependant route is unfortunate for genuine families, but that's the problem with high levels of abuse - the innocent also get caught up in the consequences. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by heroshark(m): 12:48pm On May 16 |
directonpc: You are missing the whole point, the student visa is not an immigrant visa. Most people that park their family on a student visa are traveling with migration intent hence they use the student visa as a route. Stopping students from bringing dependents will drastically cut the number of families traveling with immigration intent, which is what the government wanted. To reduce net immigration. Those that wants to study can come and study after 1year they return back to their family or work to skill worker visa and bring their families. I am not saying that what the government did is the best solution, my point is that the government response is in reaction to the abuse of the system. 9 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by directonpc(m): 2:21pm On May 16 |
heroshark: If someone cones to the UK via the student visa, abandon their studies and switch, you can call that using it for immigration. But if one comes to the UK, completes their studies, does post-study visa, hopes to get a skilled worker visa and eventually gets it, how's that abuse? Even the UKVI doesn't think that's abuse. Education is mostly an investment. And people want return on their investment. It's OK if the expectation people have for coming to study in Europe is to use their new degree to work and live there legally. Even the universities here understand that most of their customers want that return on their investment, hence why the recent report mentions that the government should reassure students that they're not taking the PSW away. They're already dealing with decline in applications due to those that cannot stay apart from their dependants for 3 years not coming. I don't know what the solution to the immigration crisis in the UK is, but not everything about the dependant visa is abuse. Even these Nigerians (ourselves) we paint bad, plenty single Nigerians are here without any fake or real dependants. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Viruses: 6:33pm On May 16 |
Opinions needed Which is a better approach to financial freedom 1) Paying excess mortgage with 'spare' money to reduce the mortgage tenure 2) Save the 'spare' money instead and buy a BTL property Also are there any other ideas to use 'spare' money for in the housing sector apart from the two mentioned above? 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Santa2: 7:13pm On May 16 |
Passed my driving Test today 1st attempt. I am so ecstatic, having to unlearn all my naija driving bad habits and picking up the disciplined defensive driving in the Uk has been mind wrecking.. Thank God am through that stage now. Tips and recommendations from this thread were very help. All people that pasted youtube reommendations..Daalu. Having said that I would like to sound a note of warning to people like me that have coconut head like me, wey no dey hear word. Despite all the warnings from Lexusgs430 and other elders in house about not driving unsupervised with provisional license. I went and bought a car earlier this year and entered road. First day I took the car out, I got stopped by the police and got 3 points on my provisional (talk about bad luck), I was lucky the car was not impounded, they police guy just pity me small. What gave me mind was seeing lots of people driving on provisional without issue. E reach my turn, dem catch me. Please if you are driving on provisional, book that driving test today abeg. Do not be like me, Do not have coconut head. I did 24 sessions in total , across three tutors till I found the one that was good, one naija driving tutor was the absolute worst. He just kept shouting on top my head and derailing my confidence. When I crunched the numbers , I spent £1040 in total for sessions and using tutors car for the test. 15 Likes
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dupyshoo: 8:25pm On May 16 |
Congrats!!! Santa2: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 8:34pm On May 16 |
Santa2: Congratulations...... You be Medway pickin.......🎉🤣 |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by luqken: 9:28pm On May 16 |
Lexusgs, please I need IPTV plug Make I join the league of smart boys |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 10:24pm On May 16 |
luqken: Send me a WhatsApp message....... |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 10:48pm On May 16 |
lavida001: Its a difficult one but in my experience, we struggle with a number of things. Two main ones being accountability which is evident across board and secondly building resilient systems. Kano state at the turn of the century eliminated the token (less than 200 I believe) pregnant women pay for maternity services and that alone increased the number of pregnant ladies attending hospitals by several tens of thousands with a good drop in mortality. The cost at the time was stated to be less than what it would have cost to build a bridge. Affordable and qualitative healthcare is one way states should drive things. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 10:51pm On May 16 |
Zahra29: I wonder how you decide what the NHS is for and not. They paid for it through taxes, IHS and talent and deserve any suitable service on offer. Even if every immigrant in my county turns up requesting an MOT review (whatever that means), thats at most a few days work. I'd rather spend my afternoon discussing someones concern around prostate cancer e.t.c thank deal with most of the entitlement I see. Entitlement is calling the ambulance out over 100 times a year aside numerous interventions by other services and turning around to say they are useless and have done nothing. Its 20 yr olds asking for a clinical visit because they can be fussed to get a taxi. It is the person who frequents the pub looking to be registered as 'housebound' so they can get home visits..It is calling 111 by 4am because youve sh*t yourself and want 'these people wipe up folks' to be sent to your house at 4:30am and when asked about your daughter that lives 5 mins away, you reply oh.. I wouldn't want my daughter to do such. It is the fact that admissions into paediatric wars for mental health associated issues now rival acute medical issues. Or 5 people being paid for all day to force feed a child that has refused to eat. I can go on and on. It is not about immigrants who barely know the service. Its interesting the number of immigrants (including those working in the NHS) who have not even registered at a GP several years in. Lastly, I find it intriguing that while you appear in the forefront of disparaging immigrants, oddly, you are also keen to convince same folks that they wouldn't fare better elsewhere. Its like an abusive person looking to convince their partner not to leave as the next person might be worse. Very interesting. 12 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 11:06pm On May 16 |
fatima04: Hehe. You are beginning to sound like a professor who told me not to leave Nigeria because I had a 'permanent and pensionable' civil service job and the grass was not greener in the UK. I told him Sir, we would find out. When I got my first UK job, I was so scared of 'taxes' that I called a colleague and asked hiw far? This thing go balance so? Chap told me oboi forget wetin dem write for motor enter motor. Ultimately, it was not a conversation to be had. Few months later, I looked at my reasoning process and laughed I dont want to delve into boring details about comparing the UK to the US. A recent FT article did a good job of that. In financial terms, comparing both is like comparing the UK to Lithuania. Folks can succeed anywhere (even in the Sahara) but yes, the grass is some times greener elsewhere. 5 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 11:35pm On May 16 |
A very detailed write-up about the NHS ...... If I had my thinking cap on, i would say this was a letter from the government to it's citizenry....... Britain’s NHS Black Hole Is Devouring the Whole Country https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-01-24/britain-s-nhs-crisis-could-devour-the-entire-country 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:02am On May 17 |
jedisco: Oh please. You shared your own view that the request for a CT scan by Lexus for his young son, who had been seen by A&E for a head injury, was basically inappropriate use of NHS resources. You disparage Brits and Britain all the time, so it's a bit rich coming from you lol And as to the bolded, you are very mistaken if you think I'm trying to convince "folks" to remain in the UK. Of what value is it to me? Do they pay taxes or other benefits to me? Do I run a care agency?🙄 I have stated several times that "bon voyage, all the best" to anyone who bashes the UK and thinks the US or Nigeria or anywhere is better, but as per usual you're very selective in your reading. 6 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 2:48am On May 17 |
Lexusgs430:Mi o gbo English |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 2:54am On May 17 |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 2:58am On May 17 |
jedisco:The GDP of Uk is just a quarter of that of the states. I will pick the states over Uk but na just the gun violence dey discourage me. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 3:19am On May 17 |
lavida001: Something must kill a man...... 😁 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by deept(m): 4:21am On May 17 |
Lexusgs430: "In the face of endlessly escalating funding demands, one orthopedic consultant joked darkly that the UK would soon turn into a small economy with a big health service attached." What to do? Bring out our checkbooks with the incoming labour govt? Is there a solution to this NHS crisis? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 4:46am On May 17 |
deept: The only solution is to go private or introduce a funding element ........ But i dare any politician........ Do you know how many #NOF operations are conducted in a month + #TKR........ Let's only pick on this 2 orthopedic operations........ This is part of what that consultant is joking about......... 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by deept(m): 5:11am On May 17 |
Lexusgs430: I had to Google what nof and tkr are. What about those who cannot afford to go private? Did we get sicker as humans or what? Or because the care is 'free' we do not take care of ourselves? What about the people who cannot afford to go private? Did we get sicker as humans? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 5:19am On May 17 |
deept: This your last question, I cannot pretend to answer, for fear of been accused of been insensitive.........😁🤣 |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by deept(m): 5:26am On May 17 |
Lexusgs430: Lol, you dey fear? Until we make the hard decisions and people take responsibility, these problems will persist. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 5:27am On May 17 |
deept: Before I get accused of wetin I no know (again).......😁🤣 |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by deept(m): 5:35am On May 17 |
Lexusgs430: O n la ti pon to make dodo ikire |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 7:11am On May 17 |
What is far left ideology? Labour used to be democratic socialism till it moved to the centre where it now sits. It's never been far left. DEI is creating a society where every single person can fully be themselves within the bounds of the law because it takes all sorts to make a society. Surely there is nothing wrong with that? Zahra29: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 7:21am On May 17 |
Where does the reform party stand on immigrants? You want to go doorknocking with skinheads and white nationalists? fatima04: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 7:25am On May 17 |
You are asking a pertinent question. Why should a parent miss a day in their childs life because you want to look tough for elections? directonpc: 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 7:33am On May 17 |
The US was founded on squarely secular foundations. Infact they were so against religion that it was written into their constitution. You already know what I think of Trump. Hopefully, the campaign funds trial puts him away for a while Zahra29: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by BeckyB1(f): 8:03am On May 17 |
Greetings All. Please, I need clarification, and want to learn... I am on a COS visa, and my sponsor have not given a shift since I arrived, but I have been doing my supplementary 20 hours with an agency and my tax code is 1257L. Someone told me a few days ago that the tax code the agency is using for me is wrong as they are not my main employers. I want to know the implications of this please. |
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