Janosky:


Mumu logic of a WAILER


The Jews decimated during the Roman soldiers invasion of Jerusalem were defending what?

Is Jerusalem a Jewish national asset or nah your personal property?

An armed soldier no dey defend himself by doing national defense?

Oga,just dey deceive yourself.

Prove to us that your Bible is not heavily manipulated.

Janosky:


Oga,Your claim is spurious.
Pls STOP WAILING on this platform.

You didn't read the screenshot evidences and rebuttals I have done on this thread.

The correct rendition of John 10:33 is 'god' but your Trinitarian mentors REMOVED the evidence in your Bible deceiving you with their man made GIBBERISH.
Can't you see for yourself that 'god' in small letter is at John 10:33, 1 Corinthians 8:4-5 & Acts 28:6?
John 1:1= John 10:33 the word was a god.

Also Your friend made a false claim about Daniel 12:4 in New world translation.
Your Trinitarian Amplified Bible , Daniel 12:4 is outstanding evidence against Courz.

FX,Did you even investigate that?
You did not.

Liar janosky has come again. Let me school you on the bolded above.

In the original Greek texts of the New Testament, there was no distinction between upper-case and lower-case letters. The Greek manuscripts were written in what is known as "uncial" script, which used only capital letters (majuscules) and did not differentiate between capitalizing or not capitalizing words like "God" (Θεός)

This means that the practice of capitalizing "God" or pronouns referring to God in modern translations is a later development for the sake of clarity and reverence in English typography, rather than a feature of the original texts. Early Greek manuscripts did not include spaces, punctuation, or capitalization distinctions.

Therefore, the original Greek Bible did not use a capital "G" for God because it used a uniform script without capitalization distinctions.

Your argument for translating John 10:33 as 'a god' shows the falsehood in your translation. If John 10:33, means 'a god', then everywhere God was mentioned in the Bible should be translated 'a god' since the same form of capitalization is used in all such cases.

This is another proof that your book is heavily manipulated. Translated by ignorant and mischievous men.

Thank you so much@ Courz, FxMasterz, achorladey and Emusan for the good work you are doing. Nice thread uved got here @ Courz. I think any group who emphasizes more on thier organization rather than a living personal relationship with our lord Jesus is making a big mistake. They claim to know God, and yet in works they deny him to the point of manipulating scriptures-that's demonic (titus 1:16). Those saying that God wouldn't endorse war between nations of God's people should read through., judges 20: 12-48. In verse 23 in particular it reads '... And the children of israel went up and wept before the LORD until even, and asked counsel of the LORD, saying, shall i go up again to battle against the children of benjamin my brother? And the LORD said, go up against him.'

ccjoe:
Thank you so much@ Courz, FxMasterz, achorladey and Emusan for the good work you are doing. Nice thread uved got here @ Courz. I think any group who emphasizes more on thier organization rather than a living personal relationship with our lord Jesus is making a big mistake. They claim to know God, and yet in works they deny him to the point of manipulating scriptures-that's demonic (titus 1:16). Those saying that God wouldn't endorse war between nations of God's people should read through., judges 20: 12-48. In verse 23 in particular it reads '... And the children of israel went up and wept before the LORD until even, and asked counsel of the LORD, saying, shall i go up again to battle against the children of benjamin my brother? And the LORD said, go up against him.'

Apt!

Maxindhouse, Aemmyjah, Janosky, Michael457. Your attention is needed here.

Janosky:


2 Corinthians 11 11:23-26 is "brainwashed " to LYING FX Masterz.

23 Are they servants of Christ? (I am out of my mind to talk like this.) I am more. I have worked much harder, been in prison more frequently, been flogged more severely, and been exposed to death again and again. 24 Five times I received from the Jews the forty lashes minus one. 25 Three times I was beaten with rods, once I was pelted with stones, three times I was shipwrecked, I spent a night and a day in the open sea, 26 I have been constantly on the move. I have been in danger from rivers, in danger from bandits, in danger from my fellow Jews, in danger from Gentiles; in danger in the city, in danger in the country, in danger at sea; and in danger from false believers"


Oga, how many cannons & swords did Paul use to defend himself against bandits, armed robbers and his assailants @ 2 Corinthians 11:26?

Oga,Come & continue LYING
[/i]



Nah you give Paul sword or you buy one for am?

Did Paul fight against any government 2 Corinthians 11:23-26?

Oga no dey deceive yourself.

Paul said he was attacked by bandits and armed robbers. Did he tell you he didn't defend himself against them? Quote where Paul said "I did not defend myself against them."

Here is what Paul said:

"If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die." 1 Corinthians 15:22

The beasts at Ephesus are not animals but humans in animal clothing. Paul defended himself.

Janosky:


Awon Achorladey werey. Tay Tay Oooo!!

Thanks for reminding me that your brains upgraded to werey peddlings from mumu and no get sense peddling

Aemmyjah:



If you'd tried same to characters in mere human literatures
What is that called


Is the name Jesus Hebrew or Greek?

I wonder why people in advanced age can't use common sense

Abeg, go and sit down.

There was no replacement of the name. Only translations.

So, because you thought the name was replaced, that's why you also deemed it fit to replace many words and verses during your own translations?

Janosky:


Shame on you Achorladey MUMU WAILING in sifia pains.
Is that truth in the reference materials accepted by Achorladey?
No, not at any time!

Achorladey,Why do your fellow Trinitarians present evidences against your delusion?

The many works of your werey peddling brains is seen below....

Shame on you Achorladey MUMU WAILING in sifia pains.

That your werey peddling brains is always ready to peddle your mumu, wailings and sifia pains without shamelessness

Is that truth in the reference materials accepted by Achorladey?

Now Achorladey will validates what is truth for your werey peddling brains.

Achorladey,Why do your fellow Trinitarians present evidences against your delusion?

Since what your werey peddling brains called delusions are still the truth and those you called f[b]alse Christians and deluded are still teaching and preaching the truth[/b]. The delusion na from your werey peddling brains it emanates from in summary

I don respond to all your questions?

Do christendom teach the truth? Oya respond with another question like the werey peddling brains you carry

achorladey:


He knows it is since he cannot counter what has been presented so far

Instead of countering, they prefer to discuss about joining the army. They consider themselves strong on that point.

FxMasterz:


Apt!

Maxindhouse, Aemmyjah, Janosky, Michael457. Your attention is needed here.

How many times have we discussed this particular scripture.

We have shown them repeatedly that Jehovah’s witnesses fight and defend against one another up till today and defend against intruders not part of their membership.

The war between the house of Saul and the house of David lasted a long time. David grew stronger and stronger, while the house of Saul grew weaker and weaker

They have stated in their publications that there is no Bible injunction that says one cannot defend himself against deadly arm and aggression

That's what they call truth from the faithful and discreet slave and they are yet going against their own beliefs

achorladey:


How many times have we discussed this particular scripture.

We have shown them repeatedly that Jehovah’s witnesses fight and defend against one another up till today and defend against intruders not part of their membership.

The war between the house of Saul and the house of David lasted a long time. David grew stronger and stronger, while the house of Saul grew weaker and weaker

They have stated in their publications that there is no Bible injunction that says one cannot defend himself against deadly arm and aggression

That's what they call truth from the faithful and discreet slave and they are yet going against their own beliefs

Then why are these ones here behaving like mumu?

FxMasterz:


Instead of countering, they prefer to discuss about joining the army. The consider themselves strong on that point.

I said it from the onset.

MaxInDHouse wants us to accept that true Christians is based on

1. Neutral to politics

2. Neutral to war

Both are not scriptural. In their religious gathering they vote sometimes in order to decide what to do.

ccjoe:
Thank you so much@ Courz, FxMasterz, achorladey and Emusan for the good work you are doing. Nice thread uved got here @ Courz. I think any group who emphasizes more on thier organization rather than a living personal relationship with our lord Jesus is making a big mistake. They claim to know God, and yet in works they deny him to the point of manipulating scriptures-that's demonic (titus 1:16). Those saying that God wouldn't endorse war between nations of God's people should read through., judges 20: 12-48. In verse 23 in particular it reads '... And the children of israel went up and wept before the LORD until even, and asked counsel of the LORD, saying, shall i go up again to battle against the children of benjamin my brother? And the LORD said, go up against him.'

These guys know the truth but they love to deceive. Deception runs in their veins.

Thanks for the commendation. We would never allow falsehood to overshadow the Truth in our world.

FxMasterz:


Then why are these ones here behaving like mumu?

Simple, to show that all others are false Christians for going to war and joining politics while they are the only true Christians using lies and manipulations of the scripture to advance that agenda we all know is a lie.

achorladey:


Simple, to show that all others are false Christians for going to war and joining politics while they are the only true Christians using lies and manipulations of the scripture to advance that agenda we all know is a lie.

It still makes them to look more mumuistic than I thought.

FxMasterz:


It still makes them to look more mumuistic than I thought.

Looool, that's why all of those three Janosky, MaxInDHouse and Aemmyjah all have the mumu peddling brains.

They easily call anyone mumu which is a reflection of who and what they are

ccjoe:
Thank you so much@ Courz, FxMasterz, achorladey and Emusan for the good work you are doing. Nice thread uved got here @ Courz. I think any group who emphasizes more on thier organization rather than a living personal relationship with our lord Jesus is making a big mistake. They claim to know God, and yet in works they deny him to the point of manipulating scriptures-that's demonic (titus 1:16). Those saying that God wouldn't endorse war between nations of God's people should read through., judges 20: 12-48. In verse 23 in particular it reads '... And the children of israel went up and wept before the LORD until even, and asked counsel of the LORD, saying, shall i go up again to battle against the children of benjamin my brother? And the LORD said, go up against him.'

They will soon say this moniker belongs to....

FxMasterz:


Liar janosky has come again. Let me school you on the bolded above.

In the original Greek texts of the New Testament, there was no distinction between upper-case and lower-case letters. The Greek manuscripts were written in what is known as "uncial" script, which used only capital letters (majuscules) and did not differentiate between capitalizing or not capitalizing words like "God" (Θεός)

This means that the practice of capitalizing "God" or pronouns referring to God in modern translations is a later development for the sake of clarity and reverence in English typography, rather than a feature of the original texts. Early Greek manuscripts did not include spaces, punctuation, or capitalization distinctions.

Therefore, the original Greek Bible did not use a capital "G" for God because it used a uniform script without capitalization distinctions.

Your argument for translating John 10:33 as 'a god' shows the falsehood in your translation. If John 10:33, means 'a god', then everywhere God was mentioned in the Bible should be translated 'a god' since the same form of capitalization is used in all such cases.

This is another proof that your book is heavily manipulated. Translated by ignorant and mischievous men.

You even have time to reply that one!

The fact that, none of the translators involved in their NWT have in depth knowledge of Hebrew and Greek says a lot.

And the most ridiculous part is how they include the FOUR TETRAGRAMMATON in the New Testament when the name does not appear in any known manuscripts in possession today is evidence in itself that alot of manipulation was done in their translation.

Remember, by including the FOUR TETRAGRAMMATON watchtower defined their own rules and the funny aspect is that they still go AGAINST THEIR OWN RULE, without that Jesus being Jehovah would've been proven by themselves.

ccjoe:
Thank you so much@ Courz, FxMasterz, achorladey and Emusan for the good work you are doing. Nice thread uved got here @ Courz. I think any group who emphasizes more on thier organization rather than a living personal relationship with our lord Jesus is making a big mistake. They claim to know God, and yet in works they deny him to the point of manipulating scriptures-that's demonic (titus 1:16). Those saying that God wouldn't endorse war between nations of God's people should read through., judges 20: 12-48. In verse 23 in particular it reads '... And the children of israel went up and wept before the LORD until even, and asked counsel of the LORD, saying, shall i go up again to battle against the children of benjamin my brother? And the LORD said, go up against him.'

Thanks for the appreciation. As part of the body of Christ, we owe it to ourselves to expose what is Evil as God commands. Evil thrives when people do nothing about It. It is best for the public to know the extent of manipulations that exists in the JW Bible. Their manipulated verses are reasons why their doctrines are in complete contrast to that of the Body of Christ. This act of changing verses is Demonic and must be called out for what it is.

Emusan:


You even have time to reply that one!

The fact that, none of the translators involved in their NWT have in depth knowledge of Hebrew and Greek says a lot.

And the most ridiculous part is how they include the FOUR TETRAGRAMMATON in the New Testament when the name does not appear in any known manuscripts in possession today is evidence in itself that alot of manipulation was done in their translation.

Remember, by including the FOUR TETRAGRAMMATON watchtower defined their own rules and the funny aspect is that they still go AGAINST THEIR OWN RULE, without that Jesus being Jehovah would've been proven by themselves.

True bro.

They inserted the Tetragrammaton in the New Testament texts when it isn't present in the original Greek texts.

Janosky, you see your life outside?

That's what happens when you rely on Hebrew and Greek illiterates for your Bible translations. It gets worse when the illiterates are agents of Satan. Demonic manipulations and falsehoods would be inevitable.

Emusan:


They will soon say this moniker belongs to....

Lol.

FxMasterz:


Abeg, go and sit down.

There was no replacement of the name. Only translations.

So, because you thought the name was replaced, that's why you also deemed it fit to replace many words and verses during your own translations?

Many scholars and critics say the KJV is distorted and filled with contradictions and additions that were not in reliable manuscripts. Only few unpopular translations made the changes.
Is it proper that a translation would say that another older and authoritative translation is filled with errors but you still follow the custom as the same translation?

It is like a guide, a well known guide or map used and referenced by all and many people see that the map is not accurate. Does it make sense that the person that wants to draw a new map should still draw down the same features and everything in the old map while acknowledging that the old map has errors or he has to check reliable documents and data to get a more accurate picture of the landscape?

Days ago, someone dropped a thread here on Nairaland that the Bible is contradicting itself and he cited references but everything was from KJV and NIV such as the age of some kings, numbers of objects, etc... Many known translation showed same errors except NWT and many other translations and it was discovered that the manuscripts from which they were copied from such as the masoretic texts had the errors but other manuscripts were different but they were in agreement so it's likely that the masoretic texts must have had copyist error. So we rather use the information from those ones rather than sticking to one manuscripts
Another reason why the NKJV and the KJV have some differences

Your envy can turn black white

Aemmyjah:




Many scholars and critics say the KJV is distorted and filled with contradictions and additions that were not in reliable manuscripts. Only few unpopular translations made the changes.
Is it proper that a translation would say that another older and authoritative translation is filled with errors but you still follow the custom as the same translation?

It is like a guide, a well known guide or map used and referenced by all and many people see that the map is not accurate. Does it make sense that the person that wants to draw a new map should still draw down the same features and everything in the old map while acknowledging that the old map has errors or he has to check reliable documents and data to get a more accurate picture of the landscape?

Days ago, someone dropped a thread here on Nairaland that the Bible is contradicting itself and he cited references but everything was from KJV and NIV such as the age of some kings, numbers of objects, etc... Many known translation showed same errors except NWT and many other translations and it was discovered that the manuscripts from which they were copied from such as the masoretic texts had the errors but other manuscripts were different but they were in agreement so it's likely that the masoretic texts must have had copyist error. So we rather use the information from those ones rather than sticking to one manuscripts
Another reason why the NKJV and the KJV have some differences

Your envy can turn black white

Please go and sit down and stop being a nuisance.

We're discussing your translation against the original manuscripts. What concerns us about KJV? Is KJV the standard?

Should you manipulate just because KJV has errors?

FxMasterz:


Please go and sit down and stop being a nuisance.

We're discussing your translation against the original manuscripts. What concerns us about KJV? Is KJV the standard?

Should you manipulate just because KJV has errors?

Again
We did not manipulate
If you have sense of Greek and Hebrews and Aramaic
Check it yourself and compare for yourself
You'll know whether we manipulate or we chose not to follow the popular, inaccurate KJV like others did which is making your head boil

Aemmyjah:



Again
We did not manipulate
If you have sense of Greek and Hebrews and Aramaic
Check it yourself and compare for yourself
You'll know whether we manipulate or we chose not to follow the popular, inaccurate KJV like others did which is making your head boil

I have checked several times. The verses quoted here by Courz were not taken from KJV alone. Mind you, it is not true that all translators look on KJV as a guide for their translations. That's absolutely incorrect. If they all use KJV as guide, then, they'll be writing the same things as KJV.

Truth conscious christians don't study with just one version of scripture. We understand that the original languages of Hebrew and Greek are very complex and difficult to translate as most words have multiple meanings. You'll find translators taking one or merging a number of the different meanings a particular word has for their own translations. In the case of your NWT, you'll take a word that does not appear in the meaning of the word in question, abd then use it to replace the original word in order for the verse to falsely re-echo your doctrine. Sometimes, you brazenly even insert a word that does not rhyme with the context of the passage.

FxMasterz:


I have checked several times. The verses quoted here by Courz were not taken from KJV alone. Mind you, it is not true that all translators look on KJV as a guide for their translations. That's absolutely incorrect. If they all use KJV as guide, then, they'll be writing the same things as KJV.

[b]Truth conscious christians don't study with just one version of scripture. We understand that the original languages of Hebrew and Greek are very complex and difficult to translate as most words have multiple meanings. You'll find translators taking one or merging a number of the different meanings a particular word has for their own translations. [/b]In the case of your NWT, you'll take a word that does not appear in the meaning of the word in question, abd then use it to replace the original word in order for the verse to falsely re-echo your doctrine. Sometimes, you brazenly even insert a word that does not rhyme with the context of the passage.

I thought you said we don't have anyone that knew Greek or Hebrew? How would you be a translator if you don't know the original languages?
There are 3 criteria in translation of scriptures
You don't know one
You just talk without reasoning


Do you agree that KJV has errors?
If yes, do you agree that translations that are exactly similar as KJV would also contain errors


You're not reasonable
If you are, you'll find out which part of KJV that many other translators do not agree with

Aemmyjah:



I thought you said we don't have anyone that knew Greek or Hebrew? How would you be a translator if you don't know the original languages?
There are 3 criteria in translation of scriptures
You don't know one
You just talk without reasoning


Do you agree that KJV has errors?
If yes, do you agree that translations that are exactly similar as KJV would also contain errors


You're not reasonable
If you are, you'll find out which part of KJV that many other translators do not agree with

KJV themselves confessed in all honesty that they have errors. That's not news to anyone. Meanwhile your NWT translators want us to believe that their translation is the most accurate, so much so that they gave it to you as your only reliable Bible. They never confessed their errors like KJV. Can you see that they're dishonest?

Now, mistakes in translations are not evil in themselves but they become evil when they're deliberately done as demonstrated by your NWT translators. The fact that they deliberately mistranslated scriptures has been proven beyond reasonable doubt. What are you even defending?

How many of your translators know Hebrew and Greek? Tell us their verifiable qualifications regarding these two languages. Courz has reported that one of your well admired translators was asked to translate a Greek verse to English in court. He failed woefully. He couldn't even attempt it.

Your organization is very dishonest. They love to deceive. And it's even annoying that you are here to overlook that deceit and defend it. Shame on you.

Emusan:


They will soon say this moniker belongs to....

You know who

Emusan:


You even have time to reply that one!

The fact that, none of the translators involved in their NWT have in depth knowledge of Hebrew and Greek says a lot.

And the most ridiculous part is how they include the FOUR TETRAGRAMMATON in the New Testament when the name does not appear in any known manuscripts in possession today is evidence in itself that alot of manipulation was done in their translation.

Remember, by including the FOUR TETRAGRAMMATON watchtower defined their own rules and the funny aspect is that they still go AGAINST THEIR OWN RULE, without that Jesus being Jehovah would've been proven by themselves.

The words in bold is where they are the most dangerous and manipulating with their lies and deceit.

One of the reason I do say they don't practice what they preach

Courz:


Thanks for the appreciation. As part of the body of Christ, we owe it to ourselves to expose what is Evil as God commands. Evil thrives when people do nothing about It. It is best for the public to know the extent of manipulations that exists in the JW Bible. Their manipulated verses are reasons why their doctrines are in complete contrast to that of the Body of Christ. This act of changing verses is Demonic and must be called out for what it is.

They even get governing body inside the body of Christ

Aemmyjah:




Many scholars and critics say the KJV is distorted and filled with contradictions and additions that were not in reliable manuscripts. Only few unpopular translations made the changes.
Is it proper that a translation would say that another older and authoritative translation is filled with errors but you still follow the custom as the same translation?

It is like a guide, a well known guide or map used and referenced by all and many people see that the map is not accurate. Does it make sense that the person that wants to draw a new map should still draw down the same features and everything in the old map while acknowledging that the old map has errors or he has to check reliable documents and data to get a more accurate picture of the landscape?

Days ago, someone dropped a thread here on Nairaland that the Bible is contradicting itself and he cited references but everything was from KJV and NIV such as the age of some kings, numbers of objects, etc... Many known translation showed same errors except NWT and many other translations and it was discovered that the manuscripts from which they were copied from such as the masoretic texts had the errors but other manuscripts were different but they were in agreement so it's likely that the masoretic texts must have had copyist error. So we rather use the information from those ones rather than sticking to one manuscripts
Another reason why the NKJV and the KJV have some differences

Your envy can turn black white

Your stupid apostate peddling brains have all of a sudden develop love for peddling envy.

Your envy can turn black white

In the realm of Jehovah's Witnesses your GODS of men housed in USA had made you call black white even when your very brains processing what your eyes know and see is black.

FxMasterz:
KJV themselves confessed in all honesty that they have errors. That's not news to anyone. Meanwhile your NWT translators want us to believe that their translation is the most accurate, so much so that they gave it to you as your only reliable Bible. They never confessed their errors like KJV. Can you see that they're dishonest?

This part right here is summary of it all.

Once you can decode their hypocrisy, the rest is easy.

He agreed that what other people says about KJV but will he agree with the same people on NWT? That's the question they'll never answer.

The other one will tell you how KJV is a fraud for inserting the word "God" to 1 Tim 3:16 because it's not found in any manuscripts but ask him if Watchtower is also fraud for inserting the word "OTHER" in Col 1:16-18, as the word was never found in any manuscripts, the tune will change and trying to justify why Watchtower has the right to insert it.