I have observed how humans always complain and direct their frustration towards God. Is it like an instinctive response to life's troubles. Now I was going through the book of Isaiah and I came across where God clearly stated that he cause troubles and happiness.

Another verse says "you should NEVER say that you are being tested by God". Then another one INSISTS that "God will not allow you to be tested beyond what you can endure."

The Bible is rife with contradictions like that.

Docodes:
I have observed how humans always complain and direct their frustration towards God. Is it like an instinctive response to life's troubles. Now I was going through the book of Isaiah and I came across where God clearly stated that he cause troubles and happiness.

The highlighted is a misconception so you need an interpretation of God's word!

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is a misconception so you need an interpretation of God's word!

a misconception that was clearly stated?

In my own understanding, God is a king that can do whatever he want and pleases. He is above Good and evil. He created everything.

Docodes:

a misconception that was clearly stated?

I know what you have in mind but it's not what you think that's why i said it's a misconception!

Docodes:
In my own understanding, God is a king that can do whatever he want and pleases. He is above Good and evil. He created everything.

God created everything but the GOOD and EVIL mentioned in the Bible book of Isaiah has a totally different meaning from what most people think.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. Isaiah 45:7

Is this not what you have in mind?

MaxInDHouse:

I know what you have in mind but it's not what you think that's why i said it's a misconception!



God created everything but the GOOD and EVIL mentioned in the Bible book of Isaiah has a totally different meaning from what most people think.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. Isaiah 45:7

Is this not what you have in mind?

yes pls go on

Docodes:
I have observed how humans always complain and direct their frustration towards God. Is it like an instinctive response to life's troubles. Now I was going through the book of Isaiah and I came across where God clearly stated that he cause troubles and happiness.

You read in Isaiah that I indeed God is also the author of blessings - Deuteronomy 28 vs 1 - 15 - and calamities - Deuteronomy 28 vs 15 - 57 - so what about it? And where is the connection between this post of yours and the topic?.

Docodes:
In my own understanding, God is a king that can do whatever he want and pleases. He is above Good and evil. He created everything.

He created everything including Good and Evil. So?

Docodes:

yes pls go on

When you read any part of the Bible and you find it difficult to grasp all you need is to raise up your voice for understanding by asking other Bible believers around you. Proverbs 2:3

This is what it means:

When the true God sends His messenger on a mission such a person may be scared of the unknown so whatever it could be that humans finds as deadly or dangerous God is telling us that He created what made up that thing so He can turn it into something else.

Take for instance when the Israelites needed daylight to win a battle against their enemies Joshua a servant of God told the sun to stand still for almost 24 hours {Joshua 10:12-14} this proved that God who created light we call "day" and darkness we call "night" can reverse it to favour His people! Isaiah 45:7

Again do you remember the three Hebrews in Babylon?
Nebuchadnezzars believed so much in the destructive power of fire but when God wants to prove He's the One who created the gasses that formed fire He turned it into air-conditioner for Shadrach, Meshach And Abednego yet the same fire killed those that threw these three boys into it! Daniel 3:19-27

What about the time of Noah when water that we need to grow our plants was turned into a force that wiped out all creatures on dry ground?

Please when next you need an interpretation of God's word just raise your voice for understanding and the true God will surely send one of His servants to help you out.

Thanks, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

All power belongs to God..

Power to make peace and power to kill..

He does all

sonmvayina:
All power belongs to God..

Power to make peace and power to kill..

He does all

this is my point

MaxInDHouse:


When you read any part of the Bible and you find it difficult to grasp all you need is to raise up your voice for understanding by asking other Bible believers around you. Proverbs 2:3

This is what it means:

When the true God sends His messenger on a mission such a person may be scared of the unknown so whatever it could be that humans finds as deadly or dangerous God is telling us that He created what made up that thing so He can turn it into something else.

Take for instance when the Israelites needed daylight to win a battle against their enemies Joshua a servant of God told the sun to stand still for almost 24 hours {Joshua 10:12-14} this proved that God who created light we call "day" and darkness we call "night" can reverse it to favour His people! Isaiah 45:7

Again do you remember the three Hebrews in Babylon?
Nebuchadnezzars believed so much in the destructive power of fire but when God wants to prove He's the One who created the gasses that formed fire He turned it into air-conditioner for Shadrach, Meshach And Abednego yet the same fire killed those that threw these three boys into it! Daniel 3:19-27

What about the time of Noah when water that we need to grow our plants was turned into a force that wiped out all creatures on dry ground?

Please when next you need an interpretation of God's word just raise your voice for understanding and the true God will surely send one of His servants to help you out.

Thanks, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

who created hell for punishment also created paradise for enjoyment. GOD ISNT LIMITED TO GOOD ONLY. na why people get disappointed cos they expect only good.

Docodes:
■ who created hell for punishment also created paradise for enjoyment. GOD ISNT LIMITED TO GOOD ONLY. na why people get disappointed cos they expect only good.

Why is God to blame for the ignorance of some humans though?

God has never given humans the impression that He is only responsible for that which they individually perceive as good in this world — not at all. The book of Scripture from which you lifted your one verse, a book more than 1000 years strong, clearly indicates that from the beginning God has been the controller, and power, maneuvering all that is good and all that is evil in the land. So, isn't it stack ignorance to pretend that somehow God is the side of your very own myopic reasoning as opposed to that which is established of Him from even thousands of years before your conceiption?

Docodes:
this is my point

Yes oh..

Kobojunkie:
Why is God to blame for the ignorance of some humans though?

God has never given humans the impression that He is only responsible for that which they individually perceive as good in this world — not at all. The book of Scripture from which you lifted your one verse, a book more than 1000 years strong, clearly indicates that from the beginning God has been the controller, and power, maneuvering all that is good and all that is evil in the land. So, isn't it stack ignorance to pretend that somehow God is the side of your very own myopic reasoning as opposed to that which is established of Him from even thousands of years before your conceiption?

Please can you be more clearer...this looks like what a JSS 1 student will do...

Docodes:
who created hell for punishment also created paradise for enjoyment. GOD ISNT LIMITED TO GOOD ONLY. na why people get disappointed cos they expect only good.

The Hebrew and Greek word translated Hell simply means GRAVE so God never created a place of torment for anyone in fact such thing has never come into His heart! Jeremiah 7:31

Kobojunkie:
Why is God to blame for the ignorance of some humans though?

God has never given humans the impression that He is only responsible for that which they individually perceive as good in this world — not at all. The book of Scripture from which you lifted your one verse, a book more than 1000 years strong, clearly indicates that from the beginning God has been the controller, and power, maneuvering all that is good and all that is evil in the land. So, isn't it stack ignorance to pretend that somehow God is the side of your very own myopic reasoning as opposed to that which is established of Him from even thousands of years before your conceiption?

So you mean God is the architect of all what we conceive as evil on this planet earth, right?

Michael547:
■ So you mean God is the architect of all what we conceive as evil on this planet earth, right?

Satan, the one who oversees all evil, is God's servant.

Kobojunkie:
Satan, the one who oversees all evil, is God's servant.

Ok....So God sends Satan to do whatever he does, right?

Michael547:
■ Ok....So God sends Satan to do whatever he does, right?

Satan is commanded by God, is that much not made clear in Scripture?

Kobojunkie:
Satan is commanded by God, is that much not made clear in Scripture?

Do you think it makes sense for people in the bible to pray to God against evil that is to befall them if God himself was the architect and mastermind of all evil?

Michael547:
■ Do you think it makes sense for people in the bible to pray to God against evil that is to befall them if God himself was the architect and mastermind of all evil?

That which is right or wrong was as defined in God's Law. God had no laws stopping people from praying against evil so what has right or wrong to do with such exercise in the first place?

Michael547:

Do you think it makes sense for people in the bible to pray to God against evil that is to befall them if God himself was the architect and mastermind of all evil?

God sent Satan to Jesus then Jesus resisted the servant of God sent to him! Matthew 4:10

Sometimes it's funny chatting with people who don't just want to listen and learn!

Kobojunkie:
That which is right or wrong was as defined in God's Law. God had no laws stopping people from praying against evil so why do you even consider it wrong of them to have prayed against evil in the first place?

Are you joking.....you just agreed that God is the architect of all evil....so why would he tell people to pray against his evil actions that are perpertrates by his human creations?

MaxInDHouse:


God sent Satan to Jesus then Jesus resisted the servant of God sent to him! Matthew 4:10

Sometimes it's funny chatting with people who don't just want to listen and learn!

I tire my brother

Michael547:
■ Are you joking.....you just agreed that God is the architect of all evil....so why would he tell people to pray against his evil actions that are perpertrates by his human creations?

Where exactly do you have God telling people to pray against evil since I am not even certain whether you are roaming around the Old Law of Moses or the New Law of Jesus Christ?

Kobojunkie:
Where exactly do you have God telling people to pray against evil since I am not even certain whether you are roaming around the Old Law of Moses or the New Law of Jesus Christ?

Both in the old Law of Moses and in the New Law of christ, people have always prayed against evil.

How does that make sense, since the person they are praying to is actually the architect of all evil committed by his human creations?
So what's the point of such a prayer?

Michael547:
■ Both in the old Law of Moses and in the New Law of christ, people have always prayed against evil.
■ How does that make sense, since the person they are praying to is actually the architect of all evil committed by his human creations?
So what's the point of such a prayer?

1. Be more specific, please! Quote the exact commandment where you have God commanding His people to pray against evil.

2. Start by specifically revealing the command in question and we go from there.

Kobojunkie:
1. Be more specific, please! Quote the exact commandment where you have God commanding His people to pray against evil.

2. Start by specifically revealing the command in question and we go from there.

You are a joker.....I never said God 'commanded' people to pray against evil.

In Jeremiah 20:17, God assured the isrealites that their enemies will not prevail against them because he is there to save them. The isrealites prayed to God for successes in wars.

How do all these makes sense when both the isrealites and the nations that are seen as evil are all
Actors acting out the script of the creator?

Does it makes sense for worshippers of God to pray against evil since God is the architect of all evil that are perpetrated by human creations? Yes or no oga?

Michael547:
■ You are a joker.....I never said God 'commanded' people to pray against evil. In Jeremiah 20:17, God assured the isrealites that their enemies will not prevail against them. The isrealites prayed to God for successes in wars. How do all these makes sense when both the isrealites and the nations that are seen as evil are all Actors acting out the script of the creator? Does it makes sense for worshippers of God to pray against evil since God is the architect of all evil that are perpetrated by human creations? Yes or no oga?

Let's go back through the conversation at this point...

Michael547:

Do you think it makes sense for people in the bible to pray to God against evil that is to befall them if God himself was the architect and mastermind of all evil?

...

Kobojunkie:
That which is right or wrong was as defined in God's Law. God had no laws stopping people from praying against evil so what has right or wrong to do with such exercise in the first place?

...

Michael547:
Are you joking.....you just agreed that God is the architect of all evil....so why would he tell people to pray against his evil actions that are perpertrates by his human creations?

...

Kobojunkie:
Where exactly do you have God telling people to pray against evil since I am not even certain whether you are roaming around the Old Law of Moses or the New Law of Jesus Christ?

....

Michael547:

Both in the old Law of Moses and in the New Law of christ, people have always prayed against evil. How does that make sense, since the person they are praying to is actually the architect of all evil committed by his human creations? So what's the point of such a prayer?

... So, according to you, God never asked people to pray against evil... but people did it anyway and it never stopped evil from rearing its ugly head, so why are you asking me why people pray against evil anyway? Clearly, I am not the joker in this case asking me why people do what they do with their own freedoms!

Kobojunkie:
Let's go back through the conversation at this point................... So, according to you, God never asked people to pray against evil... but people did it anyway and it never stopped evil from rearing its ugly head anyway, so why are you asking me why people pray against evil anyway? Clearly, I am not the joker in this case!

Oga so you mean God never saved anyone including the ancient isrealites who prayed for success against their enemy nations in the bible?

So you mean God was not listening to Any prayers?