Jodera:

Moyes wey dey finish 5-7th, one of the decent EPL coaches don dey turn average Joe.

Omorr, Pep for league na Goat. Nobody should just compare abeg.

Even Prime Mou, a top coach dey go dirty anytime he's expected to compete with him.

Give Moyes his Everton back if he won't be doing his regular 5-7th again. Try they put context for things now.


Pepis good but i doubt he would have had it this much back then.

raumdeuter:

I no watch but e be like say Glasner dey perform magic

Man that was the best match for today

Jodera:
Lmaooo
Na just nostalgia deh catch guys for here na why.

Nostalgia is the reason why the only deadly finisher in the league is not even as deadly as Van persie who was not even tier 1 striker back then.

popizaino:


Standard has dropped. The fact that Jackson scores more goal than Drogba in his first season does not make Jackson a better striker than Drogba. Football is dynamic,not linear.

Now is more of Coaches game than Player's game.
The "system" game would always beat the normal formation game and it's system era we are now.

The only reason you feel standard dropped is because system football is somehow boring compared to the free flowing football of those days but system football will always beat free flowing football and that's something Pep was a master at

Football nowadays deals with More runnings, more tactical instructions and more complex setups than those days. You might think it has dropped but it's definitely higher.

Jackson normally is not better than Drogba in anyway tho

What I like about Pep na say him be guyman. He no go ever use him leg waka enter setup wey no go favour am. If him ask for Neymar, you give am Götze, no wals…you no go see am next season.

A guyman to the core. Sharp like 90’s tv

raumdeuter:


Is Man Utd not assembling their own players only that they flop

Pep beat Man Utd twice between2009 and 2011

Oh i forgot Pep guardiola would have assembled his prime Barca side in man city. Shebi you want to play abi?

popizaino:


Give Moyes his Everton back if he won't be doing his regular 5-7th again. Try they put context for things now.


Pepis good but i doubt he would have had it this much back then.

Who would have stopped him??

When Mou came, Wenger went off the radar. He left only Fergie to fight him

Na Oga pata pata Pep go come find am hard with his Man city team??

Lol. Even Fergie go retire before 2013 and he would have used all his last strength to try and win one league before he'll retire

popizaino:


Oh i forgot Pep guardiola would have assembled his prime Barca side in man city. Shebi you want to play abi?

I don't know how Barca take enter this EPL strength discussion tbh

popizaino:


Nostalgia is the reason why the only deadly finisher in the league is not even as deadly as Van persie who was not even tier 1 striker back then.

Rvp was a tier1 striker in his prime na but I digress.

Na nostalgia dey make you think Man U Is such an invincible team under Fergie when they're still fallible.

Mou shake am for two years, imagine what Pep would have done to him

The same foolish arguments again.

raumdeuter:

Ballack disagree that what?

And we can compare Liverpool to the Liverpool of 2009?

Or Spurs to the Spurs of 2009 or Arsenal to the Arsenal of 2009 that people used to beat for fun

For the first time ever people legitimately gave Arsenal a chance to beat Bayern in 2009 no one will even watch it

Ballack disagree that football now is tougher than then.

Football isn't linear like i said earlier. The fact that this present Liverpool had more points does not necessarily mean they were better of than the Liverpool of Torres,Gerrard, Alonso.

In 2008,Arsenal was beating UCl defending champions Ac Milan what is Jurgen Klinsmann bayern that Arsenal wouldn't stand up against?

raumdeuter:


Na why Fergusdey overrated

Make Mancini come win am where Pep dey

As if "Cuntay" didn't win league at Pep's expense.

Ibime

Another 95% league season

Jodera:

Naahh, I'm not consoling myself oo

Anybody who follows my post well knows that I'm always Pro-pep cos he's Goat of football.

See wetin him use Prime Man u so for 2009 and 2011 finals. Prlme Ronaldo, Rooney and co dey run round field same dem dey follow ball.

If he can do that to prime Man u wey all EPL deh fear, imagine what he'll do to the rest of EPL teams. Na from that day I start fear Pep that's why I no deh among those wey talk say him go learn if him come epl

And truly, EPL don see am. Na we dey beg am now make him go

You see why i keep hammering 🔨 this to you that football isn't linear?

He did that to man united but couldn't do the same thing to an inferior Chelsea side? Why?

Give me that 2009 Chelsea side with Drogba, i will defeat pep guardiola with that red card advantage.

Pep guardiola knows that his team is too vulnerable without the ball,hence he always set multiple players to mark a single player. Leaving lots of empty spaces in between. If you can advice your player not to pass back in the moment of pressure from pep guardiola's team,your team would be getting results anytime you play him provided you also sit tight at the opposite end.

Look at the build-up to Ramirez goal,look at most Liverpool goals against man city and how they came about. It is always as a result of passing forward under the most intense pressure from Pep's men.

raumdeuter:


Did useless Arsenal not make CL final?

Arsenal was not useless in those years.

raumdeuter:


Tuchel and Sarri are better than Mancini and Wenger

Mancini and Wenger wey dem dey disgrace for CL group stages regularly

Let Sarri win the league like Mancini abi is it forbidden for him to win league?

Jodera:
Lmaoo.
Even the Version of Mancini have to slug it out with Fergie on the last day, it's now the version of Prime Man City of Silva, Kdb, Sane, AGuero and Fernandinho?

It's not even about Fergie beating pep one on one. Maybe prime Ferguson team can do it.

But will prime Fergie team beat the Stokes, Evertons and others consistently without dropping points along the way?

That's what Pep have over all these other coaches

That shows how tough it is to wrestle the league from Fergie. It took Mancini the last day,it took Ancelotti the last day. What does that tells you about Fergie who usually starts the league poorly?

raumdeuter:


Na why Fergusdey overrated

Make Mancini come win am where Pep dey

A worser Conte won it were this Pep dey.

raumdeuter:


Yet dey hardly made 90 points like Pep teams

If the teams behind you is breathing down your neck, you will be encouraged to do better and that's the pep guardiola is all about.

popizaino:


You see why i keep hammering 🔨 this to you that football isn't linear?

He did that to man united but couldn't do the same thing to an inferior Chelsea side? Why?

Give me that 2009 Chelsea side with Drogba, i will defeat pep guardiola with that red card advantage.

Pep guardiola knows that his team is too vulnerable without the ball,hence he always set multiple players to mark a single player. Leaving lots of empty spaces in between. If you can advice your player not to pass back in the moment of pressure from pep guardiola's team,your team would be getting results anytime you play him provided you also sit tight at the opposite end.

Look at the build-up to Ramirez goal,look at most Liverpool goals against man city and how they came about. It is always as a result of passing forward under the most intense pressure from Pep's men.

Lmaoooo

See as the tactics and analysis sweet and easy for hand to type.
You think if it's that easy, Most top coaches wouldn't have done it consistently?
Esp now that top coaches go over details.

Guy, they(coaches) know all these things but to stop it na wahala cos if you think you're trying to evade one trap, you're indirectly entering into another. Go and watch Man City analysis on their Press and you'll see what I'm talking about.

And let's even assume Chelsea can do it and win Man City. Would Chelsea win all the other opponents that Man city's Pep would certainly decimate on the way.

If it's cup, I agree, but you see league, just forget Pep!

popizaino:


That shows how tough it is to wrestle the league from Fergie. It took Mancini the last day,it took Ancelotti the last day. What does that tells you about Fergie who usually starts the league poorly?

Lol...
8 matches to go, Fergie was leading the league (Man City specifically) by 7points yet dropped points for Mancini to catch up with him and las las win it.
On so many seasons(occasions), Man u have dropped points second half of the season and still won league.


And you think Pep would give you that leeway??

Pep wey win league with 100pts and 98 points o

Go and look at Man u title winning points and you'll find out that most of them would stand no chance where Pep dey

Jodera:

Now is more of Coaches game than Player's game.
The "system" game would always beat the normal formation game and it's system era we are now.

The only reason you feel standard dropped is because system football is somehow boring compared to the free flowing football of those days but system football will always beat free flowing football and that's something Pep was a master at

Football nowadays deals with More runnings, more tactical instructions and more complex setups than those days. You might think it has dropped but it's definitely higher.

Jackson normally is not better than Drogba in anyway tho

Typical of Jurgen klopps team on the bolded. How did they fare when they meet old school Ancelotti who doesn’t run and has been accused of being a vibe and inshallah coach?

AdisaOwala:


I don't know how Barca take enter this EPL strength discussion tbh

Leave am now.

Jodera:
Rvp was a tier1 striker in his prime na but I digress.

Na nostalgia dey make you think Man U Is such an invincible team under Fergie when they're still fallible.

Mou shake am for two years, imagine what Pep would have done to him

Na recency bias they make you think Pep guardiola stand a chance. When Mou shake Ferguson for two years what happened later?

Android17:
The same foolish arguments again.

Yes......Mr wise argument

popizaino:



Typical of Jurgen klopps team on the bolded. How did they fare when they meet old school Ancelotti who doesn’t run and has been accused of being a vibe and inshallah coach?

That's why I say in cup competitions, you can do that and excel cos it's knockout.

Over a league stretch where 3points or nothing matters, you'll be found out

That's why Ancelotti have only 6 abi 7 league titles in his 20+ years career as coach even though he coached most top teams.

And this last two is even with this present Madrid sef

popizaino:


Na recency bias they make you think Pep guardiola stand a chance. When Mou shake Ferguson for two years what happened later?

Inpatient Abramovich sacked him

That's what happened later.

And this Mou that shake Fergie is not even better than Pep sef(arguably).

Come imagine say na pep

Jodera:

That's why I say in cup competitions, you can do that and excel cos it's knockout.

Over a league stretch where 3points or nothing matters, you'll be found out

That's why Ancelotti have only 6 abi 7 league titles in his 20+ years career as coach even though he coached most top teams.

And this last two is even with this present Madrid sef

Why is Ferguson having 13 league titles in his 20years?

popizaino:


Why is Ferguson having 13 league titles in his 20years?

Cos he's good. Not just good but great.

But that thing would have been halved if not less if Pep had come during his time

Make we no even talk about Ancelotti for where Pep deh for league matter

Jodera:

Lol...
8 matches to go, Fergie was leading the league (Man City specifically) by 7points yet dropped points for Mancini to catch up with him and las las win it.
On so many seasons(occasions), Man u have dropped points second half of the season and still won league.


And you think Pep would give you that leeway??

Pep wey win league with 100pts and 98 points o

Go and look at Man u title winning points and you'll find out that most of them would stand no chance where Pep dey

This your points analogy isn't cast in stone and would not necessarily give you the true picture of things...

2007/2008 Man UTD (one of the world best teams in the last 15 years) finished with 87 points in the league.

2012/2013 man UTD that paraded bums like Evans and Cleverly finished with 86 points in the league.

Even with the somewhat similarity in points, no one that followed football at that time would even dare to compare both sides for any reason.

Jodera:

Inpatient Abramovich sacked him

That's what happened later.

And this Mou that shake Fergie is not even better than Pep sef(arguably).

Come imagine say na pep

Na you know that one oooo.

History has shown us that when Ferguson came back for Mourinho, he dashed with his tails btw his legs. Even flogged him in the UCL with inter Milan.

Pep guardiola would shake Ferguson but not winning 6 in 7. Impossible.

AdisaOwala:


This your points analogy isn't cast in stone and would not necessarily give you the true picture of things...

2007/2008 Man UTD (one of the world best teams in the last 15 years) finished with 87 points in the league.

2012/2013 man UTD that paraded bums like Evans and Cleverly finished with 86 points in the league.

Even with the somewhat similarity in points, no one that followed football at that time would even dare to compare both sides for any reason.

What the 87 and 86 points means is that both sets were winning games CONSISTENTLY. Even with the bum cleverly and Evans and welbeck

And it still means that they're still fallible especially for them not to even reach 90points means they both lost at least 4 matches with some series of draws.
Yet they came out tops.

And these are the people you want to compare with Pep team that takes 90+ points consistently like ice water??

Lol