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Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by elhakiimed(m): 7:15pm On May 18
Disclaimer: The following are historic educational facts with some commentary. Keep your comments on topic, and be respectful as this post isn't intended to spite or for argument.


The manifestation of our various conceptions come in gradations, from immensely beneficial to overwhelming extremism. Christianity like many belief systems has its values reviewed for centuries.



Here are some notable periods and instances of Christianity influence of Supremacist ideologies and Racism:

1. **Crusades (1096-1291):**
- The Crusades were a series of religious wars sanctioned by the Latin Church, aimed at reclaiming the Holy Land from Muslim rule. These campaigns were marked by a sense of Christian superiority and a mission to spread Christianity by force.

2. **Reconquista (711-1492):**
- During the Reconquista, Christian kingdoms in the Iberian Peninsula sought to reclaim territory from Muslim Moors. This period saw the rise of Christian nationalism and a drive to purify the region religiously and ethnically.

3. **Spanish Inquisition (1478-1834):**
- Established by Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile, the Inquisition aimed to root out heresy and enforce Catholic orthodoxy. This often led to persecution of Jews, Muslims, and other non-Christians, reinforcing a supremacist view of Catholicism.

4. **Colonial Era (16th-19th centuries):**
- European colonial powers, particularly Spain, Portugal, France, and Britain, justified their expansion and domination over indigenous peoples in the Americas, Africa, and Asia through a belief in the superiority of Christian civilization. This era was marked by missionary work aimed at converting indigenous populations and eradicating local religions and cultures.

5. **Manifest Destiny (19th century):**
- In the United States, the concept of Manifest Destiny held that American settlers were destined to expand across North America. This belief was partly rooted in a sense of Christian providence and superiority, which justified the displacement and oppression of Native American peoples.

6. **Ku Klux Klan (1865-present):**
- Founded in the aftermath of the American Civil War, the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) is a white supremacist organization that has used Christian imagery and rhetoric to justify its racist and anti-Semitic ideologies. The KKK's cross burnings are a particularly infamous example of this appropriation of Christian symbols.

7. **Nazi Germany (1933-1945):**
- Although the Nazi regime was officially secular, it co-opted Christian rhetoric and sought the support of Christian churches to promote its agenda. Some Nazi propaganda framed their ideology as a defense of Western Christian civilization against perceived threats from Jews and communists.

8. **Apartheid in South Africa (1948-1994):**
- The apartheid regime in South Africa was supported by certain Christian denominations, particularly the Dutch Reformed Church, which provided theological justification for racial segregation and white supremacy.

These periods highlight how Christianity has been used at times to justify and perpetuate supremacist ideologies. However, it is important to note that many Christian leaders and movements have also opposed these ideologies, advocating for equality and justice.

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Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by Praxis758: 2:38am On May 19
The OP will do better if he can back up any of those claims with the scriptures.

It is being alleged that some Christian’s sanctioned and practiced some of those claims, but history has it that they couldn’t find a single Bible passage to support their claim.

I strongly support that no 1 about the Great Crusade that was launched to reclaim the Holy Land from the Muslim infidel between 1056 - 1296. The Abrahamic race has nothing to do with the Arabian origin of Islam. JOKTAN was the father of the Arabians and not Ishmael as being claimed.

Ishmael, a son of Abraham couldn’t have fathered the Arabians historically. JOKTAN, who was a son of Eber was the first man to settle in the Arabian peninsula of today.
Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by helinues: 5:07am On May 19
Conquered the land, conquered the land.

Na so we dey read for one book, upon all the unoccupied lands back then, na the ones that already occupied they decided to conquer. Purely injustice
Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by elhakiimed(m): 6:01pm On May 20
The various crimes in the name of Christianity till this day are well documented for anyone who cares to educate themselves. It's your guilt that isn't giving you rest. Stay on the topic.

helinues:
Conquered the land, conquered the land.

Na so we dey read for one book, upon all the unoccupied lands back then, na the ones that already occupied they decided to conquer. Purely injustice
Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by Roger3D(m): 6:17pm On May 20
This is exactly what the decadent western form of Christianity projects. It's so ironic the white man doesn't even practice it anymore but their sub saharan slaves are in the forefront of promoting this ideology
Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by elhakiimed(m): 6:38pm On May 20
Praxis758:
The OP will do better if he can back up any of those claims with the scriptures.

It is being alleged that some Christian’s sanctioned and practiced some of those claims, but history has it that they couldn’t find a single Bible passage to support their claim.

I strongly support that no 1 about the Great Crusade that was launched to reclaim the Holy Land from the Muslim infidel between 1056 - 1296. The Abrahamic race has nothing to do with the Arabian origin of Islam. JOKTAN was the father of the Arabians and not Ishmael as being claimed.

Ishmael, a son of Abraham couldn’t have fathered the Arabians historically. JOKTAN, who was a son of Eber was the first man to settle in the Arabian peninsula of today.

Please facts. Your history from Jungle book doesn't cut it. Abraham took Hajar and her son to Bakkah (today Makkah) while people already lived in Arab lands. Makkah was desolate but with their arrival, the miracle of the blessed spring, Zam Zam, occured, bringing more people to the area. Ishmael was the ancestor of the prophet, peace be upon him, and many Arabs, but not all Arabs. Arabs are a diverse group of people and Ishmael is a symbolic ancestor.

Yorubas calling oduduwa their ancestor is symbolic, not strictly biological.
Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by Praxis758: 12:30pm On May 21
elhakiimed:


Please facts. Your history from Jungle book doesn't cut it. Abraham took Hajar and her son to Bakkah (today Makkah) while people already lived in Arab lands. Makkah was desolate but with their arrival, the miracle of the blessed spring, Zam Zam, occured, bringing more people to the area. Ishmael was the ancestor of the prophet, peace be upon him, and many Arabs, but not all Arabs. Arabs are a diverse group of people and Ishmael is a symbolic ancestor.

Yorubas calling oduduwa their ancestor is symbolic, not strictly biological.


There is no single archaeological evidence to support the claim that Abraham had a link with Mecca or Makkah.

Sentiments apart, it was Ishmael (son of Abraham) that went to Arab land as a ‘settler’ not a ‘founder’
Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by elhakiimed(m): 1:46pm On May 21
Praxis758:



There is no single archaeological evidence to support the claim that Abraham had a link with Mecca or Makkah.

Sentiments apart, it was Ishmael (son of Abraham) that went to Arab land as a ‘settler’ not a ‘founder’

Yes there are evidences. [Research Maqam Ibrahim].



Arabs are easily the most serious people on earth with genealogy. Some of them, especially the influential people can recite family line century back. It's why they don't offer foreigners citizenship till today.
Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by Praxis758: 3:57pm On May 21
elhakiimed:


Yes there are evidences. [Research Maqam Ibrahim].



Arabs are easily the most serious people on earth with genealogy. Some of them, especially the influential people can recite family line century back. It's why they don't offer foreigners citizenship till today.



Shaik Abdullah, in his book called ‘Biography of the Prophet’ detailed how the ishmaelites came as settlers in the land originally owned and occupied by the QUATANS (Englicised as JOKTAN)

Settlership is neither ownership nor aborigines-hip. The geography of how book of Jasher (which is more detailed than Genesis) did not record the sojourn of Abraham in the land of Arabs.

Meanwhile, Abraham was originally from the land of UR in the present day Iraq. ‘The land of Iraq’ (Mesopotamia) is what most people are mistaking for ‘Land of Arab’.

The Iraqis aren’t Arabs but Medes (old historical name) while the Iranians are Persians.

Kindly do a thorough research and establish the very fundamental.

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Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by KillahPriest: 4:51pm On May 21
Trouble dey sleep, yanga go wake am. elhakiimed please leave christians alone as we're minding our business peacefully and quietly
Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by EmeeNaka: 5:25pm On May 21
Waiting for the OP to tell us about Islam and Koran.
Op criminally lumped political/economic violence with religious violence simple to blame Christian and Christianity. All the idiots like this will never utter any word against the terrible Islamic practices out of their fear of being killed.
Christianity is the mother of Human rights, Freedom, Liberty and democracy. Christianity birthed secularism.
The freedom you enjoyed today was brought by Christian ideals and are protected and promoted by Christian led countries.

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Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by elhakiimed(m): 8:23pm On May 21
KillahPriest:
Trouble dey sleep, yanga go wake am. elhakiimed please leave christians alone as we're minding our business peacefully and quietly


If you read my post sincerely. You'd know that like now, you're the aggressors. I had a disclaimer at the beginning and end of that post.
Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by elhakiimed(m): 8:24pm On May 21
Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by elhakiimed(m): 8:35pm On May 21
Praxis758:



Shaik Abdullah, in his book called ‘Biography of the Prophet’ detailed how the ishmaelites came as settlers in the land originally owned and occupied by the QUATANS (Englicised as JOKTAN)

Settlership is neither ownership nor aborigines-hip. The geography of how book of Jasher (which is more detailed than Genesis) did not record the sojourn of Abraham in the land of Arabs.

Meanwhile, Abraham was originally from the land of UR in the present day Iraq. ‘The land of Iraq’ (Mesopotamia) is what most people are mistaking for ‘Land of Arab’.

The Iraqis aren’t Arabs but Medes (old historical name) while the Iranians are Persians.

Kindly do a thorough research and establish the very fundamental.

This is a whole lot of incoherence, and a distraction from actual topic.


You all responding angrily are at odds with your conscience. I gathered a few facts that are easily available online, and you all are making a fuss about it being religious.
Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by KillahPriest: 10:12pm On May 21
elhakiimed:



If you read my post sincerely. You'd know that like now, you're the aggressors. I had a disclaimer at the beginning and end of that post.
na people wey no know una go dey fall for una taqiya deceit. I never yet get your time, I might just dedicate a week or a month to Islam for Muslims section then you'll know there are other people who also love research. Focus on your religion and your heavenly race let others focus on their own. It's not that hard sir
Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by elhakiimed(m): 8:09am On May 22
KillahPriest:
na people wey no una go dey fall for una taqiya deceit. I never yet get your time, I might just dedicate a week or a month to Islam for Muslims section then you'll know there are other people who also love research. Focus on your religion and your heavenly race let others focus on their own. It's not that hard sir


You can't imagine how much of your ignorance you've already established just by the mention of taqiya.

You think a useless concept like Taqiya is what Muslims use to make Islam become the world fastest growing religion? bro go touch grass.

People all over the world run to islam for its clarity and consistency, something People like you blind yourself to because of bigotry.
Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by KillahPriest: 9:06am On May 22
elhakiimed:



You can't imagine how much of your ignorance you've already established just by the mention of taqiya.

You think a useless concept like Taqiya is what Muslims use to make Islam become the world fastest growing religion? bro go touch grass.

People all over the world run to islam for its clarity and consistency, something People like you blind yourself to because of bigotry.
lol. You're still on this matter
Re: Christianity Influence on Adherents' Crazed Obsession With Supremacist Ideology by Explore2xmore: 10:25pm On May 24
Praxis758:



Shaik Abdullah, in his book called ‘Biography of the Prophet’ detailed how the ishmaelites came as settlers in the land originally owned and occupied by the QUATANS (Englicised as JOKTAN)

Settlership is neither ownership nor aborigines-hip. The geography of how book of Jasher (which is more detailed than Genesis) did not record the sojourn of Abraham in the land of Arabs.

Meanwhile, Abraham was originally from the land of UR in the present day Iraq. ‘The land of Iraq’ (Mesopotamia) is what most people are mistaking for ‘Land of Arab’.

The Iraqis aren’t Arabs but Medes (old historical name) while the Iranians are Persians.

Kindly do a thorough research and establish the very fundamental.

The roots of the Arab people go back much further than late biblical references. They are descended from Eber through Joktan, one of Eber’s sons. From Joktan’s descendants eventually came the nomadic Arabs who later inhabited the Arabian Peninsula. This genealogical connection is acknowledged by Islamic historians themselves, who refer to the Arabs as “beni Qatan,” meaning “sons of Joktan.

Ishmael, another son of Abraham through his wife Hagar, also played a significant role in the origin of the Arab people.

Ishmael went on to father a lineage of desert people who joined with those already existing in the Arabian Peninsula to form what would later be known as Arabs.

Iraqis are Arabs. They are a diverse population with various ethnic groups, including Iraqi Arabs, Iraqi Kurds, Iraqi Turkmen, Yazidis, Assyrians, Mandaeans, Armenians, and Marsh Arabs. The majority of Iraqis are Iraqi Arabs, making them the largest ethnic group in the country.

Studies on the genetics of the Iraqi people indicate that there are no significant differences in Y-DNA variation among Iraqi Mesopotamian Arabs, Assyrians, or Kurds. Modern genetic research suggests that Iraqi Arabs and Kurds are distantly related but that Iraqi Mesopotamian Arabs are more genetically similar to Iraqi-Assyrians than they are to Iraqi Kurds.

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