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Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by PressMyButton: 10:07am On May 25
Shattuck:
he said they are from bini the ife people too are also from bini so technically both the ife and Onitsha people are both from the bini kingdom
He said they migrated from Ife(Ado) to Benin(Idu). Stop twisting his words.

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Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by SonofLagos: 10:07am On May 25
chiagozien:
We Igbos has nothing in common with yorubas.
grin very true, but I just marvel at the obsession an average ibo have for Lagos Yorubaland that it makes you wonder if we share anything in common, not even border but yet Lagos seem to be the only problem they have sad

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Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by Emyogalanya: 10:10am On May 25
Dybala11:

This your reasoning is Nigeria's greatest problem till date asides corruption. The Igbos, Yorubas and other tribes are part of a single country.
The lack of a collective national identity among us is a big problem that may lead to the country imploding again sooner or later. If there's anything that I fear the most, it is war o. Needless one at that, merely thinking about the likely destruction and loss of life that will happen as a result of it always makes me shiver.
The truth is that nig is not an organic country from on set. The tribes in it see themselves as independent countries. Loyalty is still in the tribe and regions and not in the country.
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by PressMyButton: 10:12am On May 25
Abagworo:


Obi didn't say Onitsha is related to Benin. He only said Igbos while migrating from Ife to the East stopped over at Benin before continuing the journey. He also clearly state that it was Ado and Iduu not Ife and Benin cause they're different Igbos passed before the founding of Benin when that area was called Idu.
Ife was called Ado. If ibos migrated from Ife to Benin, where were they migrating from when they got to ife?

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Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by GUNITGuy: 10:18am On May 25
NiRfreak:
The reason most Africans are so stupidly neck deep into tribalism and war against themselves is basically because they don't know their history
Now look at how this king is tracing a historical relationship btw an Igbo people to Ife (Yoruba) and Benin...yet these three people insult each other on the basis of tribalism for no reason..,May Africans have sense someday so that they CAN unite to do the right things for themselves and nation
Don't be deceived to tribalism is everywhere it's noticeable here because we are lumpef together by the Europeans ....All the tribes under the Roman empire are the current day British, Irish, Italians, Scots, Russians, French, Portuguese and they fought wars for many centuries in the course their survival had to invent ...
The first and second world wars were tribal wars in Europe for Supremacy....In the Arab world Saudis aren't ascepting the Persian cum Iranians ...
As long as there is a cultural divide ...Arabs aren't not ascepting Isreal
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by musicwriter(m): 10:18am On May 25
Personal Opinion of X user; Obi Achebe has no need to be diplomatic with his origin, he owes no one no apology wether his people are considered second class ibos because they have migrated from across the Niger shouldn’t be his concern. I do appreciate the fact that he was courageous to do this as this will be preserved for unborn generations.

Conclusively, it’s called Onitsha Ado n’idu portraying their origin and not Onitsha Eri

Including the Eri, all moved from West to East.

Yorubas and Igbos used to be one ethnic group or maybe clan in the dim period of human history, probably several thousands or even millions of years ago. But at some point, they partied ways.

Igbo (meaning forest in Yoruba) didn't pop up from nowhere throughout Yorubaland. Those were Igbo clan residential areas, in fact, I've found Igbos everywhere all over Africa.

Now, I am not saying that igbos came from Yorubas or that Yorubas came from Igbos. All I am saying is that they used to be one clan a very long time ago in human history. But they partied ways.

It appears that Igbo's have always been travelers from time immemorial. I've traced them to Namibia, Ivory Coast, Ghana, etc.

More details in my upcoming book: what is Satan? What is Lucifer? The biggest secret in the world

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Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by PressMyButton: 10:19am On May 25
cyberstarr:
Either you misunderstood what the Obi of Onitsha was explaining or you distorted his explanation in order to suit your own idea or agenda. Mind you that he was speaking in Igbo language, so his message could be easily misinterpreted by anyone who didn't understand the language.

For the avoidance of doubt, Obi of Onitsha mentioned that those Onitsha people that sojourned from Benin and Ife were Igbo people that were already resident in those places. He then wondered whether they (those Igbos resident in Benin and Ife) migrated or were just natural inhabitants of the places they were residing before making the long journey to Onitsha. The Obi speaks my dialect and I understood him clearly.
They migrated from Ife to Benin, then settled in Onitsha, that's the major point. Onitsha is called Onitsha Ado n' Idu. You can only name a place after your ancestry.

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Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by Afamed: 10:20am On May 25
jimetagambo:
I have always wondered why the Obi of Onitsha dresses as a SW king and not like other Igbo ezes. It's starting to make sense now.
Una too like wawulemce.

😂😅😎🤣

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Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by tishbite42: 10:21am On May 25
SS777:


He's not Igbo just like Obi of Asaba, but Igbo always want to force themselves on people's.
You're mentally ill
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by muykem: 10:22am On May 25
Amayabor1:


The Oduduwa you people said fell from the sky? 😅😅. Even Jesus Christ didn't fall from the sky. He was born.

Now, let me lecture you on some history. Prince Ekaladerhan (Oduduwa) was the only son of the exiled King Ogiso Owodo. He was a Benin Prince. Ekaladerhan (Oduduwa) went on to found Ile-ife. When his father was banished from the kingdom, the Benin people went about looking for his son to come become king in benin. Instead of coming, he sent his son, Oraminyan. And the rest is history.

ile-Ife was founded by a Benin prince, similar to the way the Benins founded Eko (lagos) under Oba Orhogba, the Oba of Benin at the time. I hope you know the real name of Lagos is Eko? Lagos is just a recent name given by the Portuguese.
Nobody said Oduduwa fell from sky. Lamurudu is Oduduwa father.

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Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by JuanDeDios: 10:28am On May 25
Emyogalanya:
I wonder why people still think they are not Igbo's its like saying that americans are still italians cos they Migrated from italy. Or that israelians are egyptians after staying there for over 400 years
Which "people" think they're not Igbos? Of course, they're Igbos.
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by sagitariusbaby(m): 10:30am On May 25
Nonybb:
Who says that Onitsha is not part of Igbo or Biafra? They have continued this propaganda perpetuated by Gowon during the war when he gave the Eastern governorship seat to Asika Ukpabi, an indigent of Onitsha in order to spite Ojukwu who declared Biafra. Ukpabi then rallied around his people and declare their non interest in Biafra

Since that time, some people rode on that ploy that was sanctioned by the northern oligarchs to divide the Igbos. They have successful brainwashed Ikwerre when Gowon visited Port Harcourt in solidarity during the war to distant them from Ndigbo. Till today, that propaganda still stood. They divide and they rule. I know you people might say that Nnaemeka Achebe is a custodian and should know the facts but cultural, linguistically and virtually otherwise, we are not the same with Bini people. If everyone claim to be Bini like Ikwerre people do, then where do Bini from? From the sky? (By the way, I don't even believe that Ikwerre people are not Igbos, because it's like saying, I am from Mbaise, I am not Igbos)

We call God Chineke, and they have theirs. Must everything be linked with the Bini people. Even Lagos State is proclaimed to be Bini original dwelling place, so Yorubas came from Bini too? What is so special about them that everyone else have to come from them? Then change the name of Nigeria to Bigeria
You are not making sense because your writeup is ridden with emotion and lack any direction. The Edos have paid their due in the past and so getting mad at them for this some purpose isn't right. You are not in a better place to tell the Obi his own history, his will always be the superior arguments.
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by Emyogalanya: 10:31am On May 25
JuanDeDios:

Which "people" think they're not Igbos? Of course, they're Igbos.
Of course they are Igbos only non Igbo's think otherwise
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by DCmonster: 10:33am On May 25
Difrent:

S
The king looks more like a Benin palace chief than an igboman
And his title is Obi
While other igbos kings are known as Igwe. The heavy influence of Benin in Onitsha cannot be overlooked
But also we can't take away the fact of Exe Chima also being a founding member of Onitsha along with igalas.
Simply put Onitsha isn't igbo but benin
Igwe Alfred Achebe is what?
Keep fooling yourself.
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by seunayantokun(m): 10:33am On May 25
Falsehood may run for 20 years ahead but it takes less than a day for truth to overtake it. Good morning.
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by SuperOnyi: 10:35am On May 25
BadBradley:
You mean Eze Chime....Eze Chime didn't only found Onitsha but the progenitor of the entire Anioma people and surprisingly, the name of the man whp founded Onitsha and the entire Anioma isn't a Yoruba name or Bini one.

Igwe is the name of European-appointed kings in most past of Igbo land. These kings are not really traditional but appointed during the colonial times for administrative convenience



shocked



I'm reading their comments and asking myself if I should laugh or just enjoy the show grin, they are saying Onitsha call other Igbos "nwa onye Igbo" while ignoring the fact that our present-day Igbo ethnicity is a recent creation. I'm not saying it didn't exist but its definition is not the same as 200 years ago.

Onitsha, Anioma, and other Igboid groups in present-day "Niger Delta" were under or paid tribute to the Benin empire for some time — it's literally obvious.

Even my clan which is far away from Onitsha is called "umuchime."

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Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by Eriokanmi: 10:39am On May 25
muykem:
Onitsha people are immigrants from Yoruba land.
100%
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by SuperOnyi: 10:41am On May 25
Pimples:


I beg to differ....
A simple analysis of our language shows we are related.
Water - Omi-nmiri
Goat - Ewure- Ewu
Ewu.— Ewurẹ. — Goat.
Stone - okuta- okute
Torotoro—. Tolotolo. — Turkey.
Ọnu.—Ẹnu. — Mouth.
Nti.— Eti. — Ear.
Rat- okute-oke
Agba.— Agbon. — Chin.
Imi. — Imu—. Nose.
Iba. —Iba. — Fever.
Gbọrọ. — Gbọ.— Hear.

And a lot of other examples.

When you come to our food and cuisines, there are also a lot of similarities

A common love for eating similar things like spinach, egusi, palm oil and other vegetables. A love for swallow fufu, wheat and eba

A similar traditional worship system.
A belief in multiple gods
Use of masquerades in festivals

I could go on and on.

If you were to look at the igbo and yoruba people without a politically colored glasses, we are one people with more in common than we choose to believe


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That's crazy... Quite a lot of similarities... but Igbos primarily believe in one God, I think other deities are just smaller gods.
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by poweredcom(m): 10:51am On May 25
Obi of onitsha foes not even know his history properly

He should go and do research properly he is passing misleading information

Onitsha is never from benin or yoruba ...ok

Rarliest onitsha indegine were some blend of igala fishermen and indigenous igbos ..maybe they left at some part of time to benin and yoriba land amd later came back to onitsha then other igbos from Aro amd nri may have settled with them to what ee see today

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Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by twosquare(m): 10:53am On May 25
musicwriter:


Including the Eri, all moved from West to East.

Yorubas and Igbos used to be one ethnic group or maybe clan in the dim period of human history, probably several thousands or even millions of years ago. But at some point, they partied ways.

Igbo (meaning forest in Yoruba) didn't pop up from nowhere throughout Yorubaland. Those were Igbo clan residential areas, in fact, I've found Igbos everywhere all over Africa.

Now, I am not saying that igbos came from Yorubas or that Yorubas came from Igbos. All I am saying is that they used to be one clan a very long time ago in human history. But they partied ways.

It appears that Igbo's have always been travelers from time immemorial. I've traced them to Namibia, Ivory Coast, Ghana, etc.

More details in my upcoming book: what is Satan? What is Lucifer? The biggest secret in the world
Eboes (See Olaudah Equiano) or Ibos... Present day now use Igbo for whatever reason is known to them.

That they share the same Anglo-Latin letters does not connote the same thing. And it was done in the 1970s. I know why, but I won't say it.

Igbó - Bush/forest (or weed). Tonal marks. It's different from the tribe's name.

In Yorùbá's suffixation to towns, it describes a town situated in the forest.

No correlation.

And the bold is wrong.

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Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by JuanDeDios: 10:53am On May 25
Emyogalanya:
Of course they are Igbos only non Igbo's think otherwise
I've not seen non-Igbos saying Onitsha folk aren't Igbo.
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by Raf4: 11:08am On May 25
Nonybb:
Who says that Onitsha is not part of Igbo or Biafra? They have continued this propaganda perpetuated by Gowon during the war when he gave the Eastern governorship seat to Asika Ukpabi, an indigent of Onitsha in order to spite Ojukwu who declared Biafra. Ukpabi then rallied around his people and declare their non interest in Biafra

Since that time, some people rode on that ploy that was sanctioned by the northern oligarchs to divide the Igbos. They have successful brainwashed Ikwerre when Gowon visited Port Harcourt in solidarity during the war to distant them from Ndigbo. Till today, that propaganda still stood. They divide and they rule. I know you people might say that Nnaemeka Achebe is a custodian and should know the facts but cultural, linguistically and virtually otherwise, we are not the same with Bini people. If everyone claim to be Bini like Ikwerre people do, then where do Bini from? From the sky? (By the way, I don't even believe that Ikwerre people are not Igbos, because it's like saying, I am from Mbaise, I am not Igbos)

We call God Chineke, and they have theirs. Must everything be linked with the Bini people. Even Lagos State is proclaimed to be Bini original dwelling place, so Yorubas came from Bini too? What is so special about them that everyone else have to come from them? Then change the name of Nigeria to Bigeria

And you believe that someone who is less than 90yrs old today was able to brainwash a whole ethnic group about their true ancestors?
That it was a 30-yr old Gowon that brainwashed Ikwerre, Ibibio, Andoni, Ogoni etc to change their identity from being igbos, about 60yrs ago, actually sounds stupid 🙄
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by Jayhome24: 11:08am On May 25
My own people with their fake Jews connection will started insulting this monarch now.

Watch as ipibidients will developed sudden convulsion and epilepsy over this monarch statement and be foaming from their mouths.

Truth annoys them like mad.
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by MightySparrow: 11:09am On May 25
BadBradley:
The Obi says there are Igbos in Ile ife till today and they are Igbos who know where they came from.

He also said Ijebu Igbo in Yoruba land is Igbo alluding that Igbos must have come through from somewhere migrating through Yoruba land.

He never said they are one family with Yoruba but one which doesn't mean shared ancestry.

You gave a very twisted and misleading interpretation here for your own purpose

From where did they get to Ìfẹ, for what?

There are still many questions to begging for answers
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by MightySparrow: 11:11am On May 25
chiagozien:
We Igbos has nothing in common with yorubas.

What do you think Yoruba can benefit from you igbos.

Yoruba as a people towers over every other black race in the world on spread and achievements.

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Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by viodemus: 11:13am On May 25
lol.

ndi iro dun see divisive amusement park.

ndi iro, bad news for una, - igbos are not divided, igbos aware of igbos, and Onitcha like every other nwafor area, is a blessed igbo area. Now, any wish is your right;



As for me, the obi might be telling you his own story from the brainwashed version of his mind. igbos are not Benin. Igbos have huge areas in Edo state. Benin is igbo, yoruba, and others.


we know that those unsettled minds in the south (west and around), are poking for holes in the unity, strength, and wisdom of the igbos. Well, na disappointment for una, because the igbos know the igbos very well. it is more than bond, we are spiritually gifted.

Do you know how many onitsha people wey dun condemn una mumu talk. The igbos wey dey edo, the tribalist people there never send them, na onitsha cun dey dem eye. Una try.
igbos are alert. No weapon fashioned against us shall prosper.

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Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by chiagozien(m): 11:14am On May 25
MightySparrow:


What do you think Yoruba can benefit from you igbos.

Yoruba as a people towers over every other black race in the world on spread and achievements.

Lols self deceit. grin grin



Yoruba no match Igbos in anyway.



We Don't share anything in common with yorubas and don't want to
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by chiagozien(m): 11:16am On May 25
SonofLagos:
grin very true, but I just marvel at the obsession an average ibo have for Lagos Yorubaland that it makes you wonder if we share anything in common, not even border but yet Lagos seem to be the only problem they have sad
Lagos is not Yoruba land.


We recently here in Lagos deported you yorubas back to Osun State.
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by Af0nja: 11:17am On May 25
Ebibedike1:
Onitsha is not part of Biafra. Know this and know peace.
Oduduwa republic is actually bigger than you all know.,and we will claim and accommodate all of them

This isn't even an argument, Onicha exists in other parts of Igbo land, not just in Anambra. It's just not possible. Onicha isn't also the only Igbo subgroup that have a kingship system.

The obi is obviously compromised.
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by BadBradley: 11:20am On May 25
SuperOnyi:




shocked



I'm reading their comments and asking myself if I should laugh or just enjoy the show grin, they are saying Onitsha call other Igbos "nwa onye Igbo" while ignoring the fact that our present-day Igbo ethnicity is a recent creation. I'm not saying it didn't exist but its definition is not the same as 200 years ago.

Onitsha, Anioma, and other Igboid groups in present-day "Niger Delta" were under or paid tribute to the Benin empire for some time — it's literally obvious.

Even my clan which is far away from Onitsha is called "umuchime."
I don't know if people can will themselves to be daft or just ignorant.

They forgot the Bini empire was so great and influential that it spanned across the Niger and down to Lagos and these Igbo people under his influence never shared any ancestry or linguistic or cultural identity with Binis or Yorubas

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Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by BadBradley: 11:21am On May 25
PressMyButton:

Why is it called Onitsha Ado n' Idu?
why is Ijebu Igbo called Ijebu Igbo?
Re: Obi Of Onitsha Narrates Migration Of His Ancestors From Benin And Ife by Af0nja: 11:22am On May 25
NiRfreak:
The reason most Africans are so stupidly neck deep into tribalism and war against themselves is basically because they don't know their history
Now look at how this king is tracing a historical relationship btw an Igbo people to Ife (Yoruba) and Benin...yet these three people insult each other on the basis of tribalism for no reason..,May Africans have sense someday so that they CAN unite to do the right things for themselves and nation


I get your point but it's just not possible that Onicha people came from Yoruba land. Onicha itself isn't the only town I ln Igbo land that has that name. This is common with Igbo towns, most towns share the same name as their parent town of origin.

History tends to be repetitive, in our present setting, it is still the Easterners that migrate to the West to establish concentrated areas and not the other way around.

Onicha is quite a new town so tracing it's history should be easy. It's just not possible for Yoruba to have found Onicha. There's no atom of Yorubaness in Onicha. Onicha isn't also the only Igbo town with a kingship system.

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