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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 1:53am On May 27 |
FxMasterz: 😂 Do you have a problem with that Where do you see we condemn university education What does it mean to condemn something |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by RussellRutherfo: 6:42am On May 27 |
Courz: This is really informative and Eye opening. 2 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:12am On May 27 |
FxMasterz: So why is the world filled with problems? Are you saying the universities aren't enough? At least problem solving becomes easy among Jehovah's Witnesses as they keep managing the imperfection of members without resorting to weapons and WARS! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 7:28am On May 27 |
MaxInDHouse: Warped thinking. Have you read that human needs are numerous and insatiable? When we are talking about problem solving, we mean human needs. When you need a car, that's a problem you need to solve. Someone solves the problem by producing numerous cars from which you can solve your car problem. When you need a clothe or even food. Someone solves those problems by producing those things you need which you now buy to solve your problems. If you don't understand the above fundamentals to have asked that immature question you asked above, it only shows how deeply messed up you are. 2 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 7:32am On May 27 |
Aemmyjah: If it's not condemned, what do you then mean by 'Do you have a problem with that?' What exactly do you think I have a problem with? Retracting your position and also contradicting your position within just few lines of writing. SMH. 2 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 7:40am On May 27 |
Aemmyjah: Coming from someone that couldn't prove why Mark mentioned Abiathar instead of Ahimelech. Someone who deceitfully has to choose a fraudulent hermeneutical solution to a plain statement instead of understanding that Mark knows in part and can therefore make errors like anyone else. Does the Bible not say "They're men of like passions with us " James 5:17. Do you know what that means? It means they're subject to the same weaknesses we have. They're not perfect humans. If everyone understands this, all the so called issues the carnal men have with the Bible would be laid to rest. The Bible didn't fall from heaven, it was written by men of like passions with us. God then breathed upon the imperfections to produce life for us who are in the spirit. And how does this position of mine exonerate you from the delusions and fraud into which your life has been immersed? 1 Like |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:53am On May 27 |
FxMasterz: Do you really have the knowledge you claim? The highlighted is wrong! Human NEED is just three: FOOD CLOTHING SHELTER It's human WANTS that's unlimited Sir! ![]() |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 7:55am On May 27 |
MaxInDHouse: Have you now stopped needing food, clothing and shelter? Have you reached a point where you do not NEED to eat anymore? Where you do not NEED to wear clothes anymore? Where you do not NEED to dwell under a roof anymore? Answer my questions please. 1 Like |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:58am On May 27 |
FxMasterz: That's what i'm telling you that it's WANTS that is numerous/unlimited as for NEED it's just those three things no matter how young or old you are those three are a must! ![]() |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 8:04am On May 27 |
MaxInDHouse: Those three things are still as insatiable as any other needs. 1 Like |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:10am On May 27 |
FxMasterz:Guy admit that you're wrong now at least show some level of civility. You can't represent faith in God yet arguing blindly. NEEDS are limited so any rich human can make it happen by providing FOOD, CLOTHING and SHELTER for many but WANTS is the problem of mankind because humans are never satisfied. ![]() |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 8:15am On May 27 |
MaxInDHouse: Why not be honest with yourself and admit that I never said needs are unlimited? One of the points I made is that needs are insatiable. I have asked you if you do not NEED food, clothing and shelter anymore. Rather than answer the question, you're dribbling. 1 Like |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:20am On May 27 |
FxMasterz: Ọmọ the word NUMEROUS or INSATIABLE shouldn't be used for human NEEDS as babies and old people are also humans yet they are SATISFIED with FOOD CLOTHING and SHELTER. It's GREED that gives birth to insatiability and it's not all humans that are greedy! ![]() |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 9:20am On May 27 |
MaxInDHouse: Do you know what you're saying at all? Insatiable means, continuous demand for something. You can't have food enough to the extent that you would never eat again. You'll continue to need food without an end in sight until the day you leave the earth. Continuous demands for those needs. That's what insatiability is all about. Moreover, that's not the point we're discussing. I'm telling you the problem we go to the university to solve. Your attempt to derail the discussion is unsuccessful. So, now, answer my question. Have you reached a state where you would no longer eat food, wear cloths or dwell in a house? As long as you continue to demand the solutions these problems, you'll always need someone who has learnt to solve these problems. 2 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by RussellRutherfo: 10:23am On May 27 |
Janosky: Mr. Okpara local champion at Aba Kingdom hall. 1 Like |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 10:29am On May 27 |
FxMasterz: Like I said Mark quoted Jesus words about David quoting from the account of Abiathar the Chief Priest who was a companion of David and the only surviving eyewitness of the account before he the elimination of the priests by Saul... You'll rather discredit the Bible account as an error |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 10:38am On May 27 |
FxMasterz: You say University education is not mandatory but you're pointing accusing fingers on us saying we condemn it. Don't you know that condemn is a strong word and anyone doing something we condemn will likely be removed? |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 10:42am On May 27 |
Aemmyjah: I further credit the Bible by establishing that God uses imperfect humans. You discredit the Bible by applying a fraudulent hermeneutical solution which imported the word 'account' from nowhere into the story by equating epi with epic. You can't tell lies and say you're crediting the Bible. God Himself would regret those lies. The Bible is the Word of God. Not the Words of God. Let the whole world understand that and stop unnecessary criticism. They should criticize the Quran instead since they said it fell from heaven. Even the Bible never laid claim to the perfection of its writers. That's why it says "We know in part. When the perfect comes, the imperfect would be done away with." 1 Cor. 13:9. I don't go by popular opinion. I try to understand the Bible for myself rather than go by the ideologies delivered to us by the Roman Catholics. 1 Like |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 10:45am On May 27 |
Aemmyjah: Of course. If you start attending a university today, won't you be disfellowshipped? |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:50am On May 27 |
FxMasterz: Guy it's better to admit you err because you also claim NEEDS are NUMEROUS showing that you're talking about lacking satisfaction whereas NEEDS are just three things: FOOD CLOTHING and SHELTER! ![]() |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by RussellRutherfo: 10:53am On May 27 |
Janosky: Ọkpara Success. Local champion at Aba Kingdom Hall. Is that you? 2 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 11:17am On May 27 |
FxMasterz: I'm awaiting NYSC next month I'm not disfellowshipped Your love of ignorance is supra |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 11:18am On May 27 |
MaxInDHouse:Are needs not truly numerous? I just don't want to argue with you because your understanding of the matter is still very kindergarten. For example, when you need shelter, do you put your shelter inside bush? You need someone to clear the bush. Do you build your shelter with saliva? Someone makes the blocks and another builds with it. Someone made the roofing sheet and another fixes your roof. You need roads leading to your house. Someone made the roads and another produces the machines that make the roads conducive for you. We are yet to talk about vehicles that make movements easy for you as well as those who have to learn to produce those vehicles. Or do you want to trek from your house to London if you have to visit London? The list goes on for food production too. It takes a process and the process needs knowledgeable people. We've not talked about the clothing, the makers of it and those who build the machines that help make the clothes. We've not talked about the lightening of your house. The makers of the bulbs that you keep buying. The makers of the machines that produce those bulbs and all the humans who have to learn how to do all those things and supply electricity to your shelter. Should we talk about the water supply to your house too and the resources that make water available for your use? We can go on and on and on like that. The 3 three basic needs are composite needs that create other needs which MUST also be met. People have to learn how to meet these needs and solve those problems. We go to the university basically for this reason. 1 Like |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 11:22am On May 27 |
Aemmyjah: Yeah, I hate ignorance and that's why I asked "won't you be disfellowshipped?" Your arrogance knows no bound. The second question I'll like to ask is "Are the members of your GB aware you're attending Uni?" The third question is "Did you attend Uni after you joined the JW cult or before?" 1 Like |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:27am On May 27 |
FxMasterz: NO! NEEDS are just three things: FOOD CLOTHING and SHELTER So whether in the time of Adam or Noah or Elijah or Jesus or Today human NEEDS remain the same FOOD CLOTHING and SHELTER it's our WANTS that's unlimited/numerous! ![]() |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 11:38am On May 27 |
FxMasterz: Show us where we condemn university education |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 11:46am On May 27 |
Aemmyjah: I have been using the word 'Discouraged' and I think that's the right word. My recent use of the word 'condemn is an oversight. Courz and Achorladey know better than me in these things and can provide more clarifications. To the best of my knowledge, JW has been discouraging its members from attending university. Now, answer all my 3 questions. 2 Likes
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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:51am On May 27 |
FxMasterz: Surely you only argue blindly! So how does the word DISCOURAGE and CONDEMN mean the same? Please try to go back and study ENGLISH just to know how to use words appropriately because i can discourage my child from doing something that doesn't mean i condemned that thing! ![]() |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 12:00pm On May 27 |
MaxInDHouse: Why do you have the habit of occasionally cutting off my mentions and quoting only one part as though that's the only thing I said? Why are you so mischievous? Now, back up your myopic declaration by countering what I said in my previous mention as copied below: Are needs not truly numerous? I just don't want to argue with you because your understanding of the matter is still very kindergarten. (For example, when you need shelter, do you put your shelter inside bush? You need someone to clear the bush. Do you build your shelter with saliva? Someone makes the blocks and another builds with it. Someone made the roofing sheet and another fixes your roof. You need roads leading to your house. Someone made the roads and another produces the machines that make the roads conducive for you. We are yet to talk about vehicles that make movements easy for you as well as those who have to learn to produce those vehicles. Or do you want to trek from your house to London if you have to visit London? The list goes on for food production too. It takes a process and the process needs knowledgeable people. We've not talked about the clothing, the makers of it and those who build the machines that help make the clothes. We've not talked about the lightening of your house. The makers of the bulbs that you keep buying. The makers of the machines that produce those bulbs and all the humans who have to learn how to do all those things and supply electricity to your shelter. Should we talk about the water supply to your house too and the resources that make water available for your use?) We can go on and on and on like that. The 3 three basic needs are composite needs that create other needs which MUST also be met. People have to learn how to meet these needs and solve those problems. We go to the university basically for this reason. 1 Like |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 12:09pm On May 27 |
MaxInDHouse: Are desperately looking for something to argue about or what? What is the meaning of this stray mention you made after I said my use of the word 'condemn' was an oversight. Or you don't know what 'oversight' means? Go check a dictionary. 1 Like |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:12pm On May 27 |
FxMasterz: Obviously you hate the truth but let me poke your bubble of deception. How many houses do a couple NEED? Answer: ONE How many clothes do you need per outing? Answer: ONE How many dishes do you need at a moment? Answer: ONE But most people keeps storing up treasures as if their existence depends on what they're able to accumulate {Matthew 6:19-21} this greedy attitude is why billions finds it extremely hard to feed, clothe themselves or have a place to call their own home and it's the same reason why some carry arms to take these things by force from those accumulating it with greed and sometimes killing them! Luke 12:16-21 But if everyone is OK with the NEEDS and not WANTS i'm sure by now Nigeria will be like Paradise for all citizens because we have more than enough in this country! ![]() |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 12:16pm On May 27 |
MaxInDHouse: My dear that's not what we're even discussing. Take your childish arguments away from me. I've already shown you how the basic needs attract other needs. Go and rest with that. What I'm here to tell you is that we go to the university to learn how to solve problems and not to learn how to be smart. 1 Like |
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