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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:17pm On May 27
FxMasterz:


Are desperately looking for something to argue about or what?

What is the meaning of this stray mention you made after I said my use of the word 'condemn' was an oversight.

Or you don't know what 'oversight' means? Go check a dictionary.

OK so get it straight that God's organization is not condemning higher education but as active and dedicated servants of God with duty under the control of God's only begotten Son we DISCOURAGE time and effort wasted in pursuing what is of no real benefit neither add up to what we are pursuing: God's Kingdom! Matthew 6:33-34
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:18pm On May 27
FxMasterz:

My dear that's not what we're even discussing. Take your childish arguments away from me. I've already shown you how the basic needs attract other needs. Go and rest with that.
What I'm here to tell you is that we go to the university to learn how to solve problems and not to learn how to be smart.

How many problems have the world been able to solve or are the universities not enough? cheesy
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 12:20pm On May 27
MaxInDHouse:


How many problems have the world been able to solve or are the universities not enough? cheesy

Even the phone you're using to type the question and the site you're using to post the question are solutions to some communication problems.

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 12:26pm On May 27
MaxInDHouse:


OK so get it straight that God's organization is not condemning higher education but as active and dedicated servants of God with duty under the control of God's only begotten Son we DISCOURAGE time and effort wasted in pursuing what is of no real benefit neither add up to what we are pursuing: God's Kingdom! Matthew 6:33-34

Mathew 13:12

"Then He said to them, “Therefore every scribe instructed concerning the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out of his treasure things new and old.”

What do you understand by the above statement made by the Lord Jesus Himself.

A scribe was an highly educated fellow in the days when Jesus walked this earth in Jerusalem.

Jesus said, if such an highly educated fellow is instructed into the kingdom of God, he is able to draw fresh and old treasures for the benefit of others.

The high IQ that follows sound education is not to be discountenanced. It's useful also for the kingdom of God. Just look at Paul.

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:26pm On May 27
FxMasterz:

Even the phone you're using to type the question and the site you're using to post the question are solutions to some communication problems.

So it's universities that made this possible shey?

Ọmọ go to China it's students who learned all these things at technical schools that's making it not university degrees! cheesy
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:29pm On May 27
FxMasterz:


Mathew 13:12

"Then He said to them, “Therefore every scribe instructed concerning the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out of his treasure things new and old.”

What do you understand by the above statement made by the Lord Jesus Himself.

A scribe was an highly educated fellow in the days when Jesus walked this earth in Jerusalem.

Jesus said, if such an highly educated fellow is instructed into the kingdom of God, he is able to draw fresh and old treasures for the benefit of others.

The high IQ that follows sound education is not to be discountenanced. It's useful also for the longhorn of God. Just look at Paul.

Scribes were Jewish THEOLOGIANS so if Jesus never appointed any of them as apostle that shows their knowledge is worthless in God's kingdom! Act 4:13 wink
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 12:29pm On May 27
MaxInDHouse:


So it's universities that made this possible shey?

Ọmọ go to China it's students who learned all these things at technical schools that's making it not university degrees! cheesy

Where did the said technical schools and their owners get the knowledge from?

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Jozzy4: 12:32pm On May 27
FxMasterz:


I have asked you several questions regarding this topic for which you've never offered an answer but keep asking irrelevant questions. I NEVER SAID University Education is MANDATORY. So, what's the relevance of those questions you've been asking?

I'm pointing out to you that God does not hate or discourage university education. Your GB is condemning it out of error. Instead of addressing that, you're asking unrelated questions.

Everyone should be free to do what he likes with his life as far as education is concerned. Discouraging it in the name of spirituality is evil. Why did you JWs condemn what God has not condemned? Simple question, Aemmyjah!

Due to the negative vices on Campus, immorality, cultism , drugs and other related things, Someone might warn another of the dangers, But Nothing in the Bible discourage University Education. It's a choice

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 12:35pm On May 27
MaxInDHouse:


Scribes were Jewish THEOLOGIANS so if Jesus never appointed any of them as apostle that shows their knowledge is worthless in God's kingdom! Act 4:13 wink

Wrong!

Are you saying that the Scribes cannot come into the kingdom?

Do you know that many priests and Scribes actually came into the kingdom?

NB: The kingdom is not your kingdom halls which are all synagogues of Satan.

"And the word of God continued to increase, and the number of the disciples multiplied greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests became obedient to the faith." Acts 6:7

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 12:36pm On May 27
Jozzy4:


Due to the negative vices on Campus, immorality, cultism , drugs and other related things, Someone might warn another of the dangers, But Nothing in the Bible discourage University Education. It's a choice

That's the point.

Warn them. Not discourage.

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:38pm On May 27
FxMasterz:

Where did the said technical schools and their owners get the knowledge from?
From China! smiley
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Jozzy4: 12:39pm On May 27
FxMasterz:


Yeah, I hate ignorance and that's why I asked "won't you be disfellowshipped?" Your arrogance knows no bound.

The second question I'll like to ask is "Are the members of your GB aware you're attending Uni?" The third question is "Did you attend Uni after you joined the JW cult or before?"

For the records, there are many youths amoung Jehovah's witnesses in African and Europe ,others that have University Education or are currently enrolled in one, without any opposition from anyone. Nevertheless I won't totally dismiss your curiousity, because there have been Few Cases where some individual get treated differently because they choose to pursue a degree.

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:41pm On May 27
FxMasterz:

"And the word of God continued to increase, and the number of the disciples multiplied greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests became OBEDIENT to the faith." Acts 6:7

Note the highlighted!

Scribes became OBEDIENT to the teachings of the Apostles and Older men in Christianity who never attended their theology schools.

So if they became OBEDIENT to Jesus' disciples who never attended their Rabbinic schools of what benefit is their knowledge? smiley
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 1:01pm On May 27
MaxInDHouse:


Note the highlighted!

Scribes became OBEDIENT to the teachings of the Apostles and Older men in Christianity who never attended their theology schools.

So if they became OBEDIENT to Jesus' disciples who never attended their Rabbinic schools of what benefit is their knowledge? smiley


Why do you like twisting Scriptures like this? What's wrong with you Maxindhouse? Aren't you ashamed?

The verse says they were obedient to the FAITH. Not to the apostles or disciples. To the FAITH please.

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 1:03pm On May 27
Jozzy4:


For the records, there are many youths amoung Jehovah's witnesses in African and Europe ,others that have University Education or are currently enrolled in one, without any opposition from anyone. Nevertheless I won't totally dismiss your curiousity, because there have been Few Cases where some individual get treated differently because they choose to pursue a degree.
Thanks for bringing the bolded to the fore.

This is exactly why we're telling them that their GBs are wrong

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 1:04pm On May 27
MaxInDHouse:

From China! smiley

Lol.

So, China has no university?

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 1:07pm On May 27
FxMasterz:


I have been using the word 'Discouraged' and I think that's the right word. My recent use of the word 'condemn is an oversight. Courz and Achorladey know better than me in these things and can provide more clarifications.

To the best of my knowledge, JW has been discouraging its members from attending university.

Now, answer all my 3 questions.


Show us from our own publication or our website (not an apostate site) where we condemn university education
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 1:14pm On May 27
MaxInDHouse:


So it's universities that made this possible shey?

Ọmọ go to China it's students who learned all these things at technical schools that's making it not university degrees! cheesy

Let him speak foolishly
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 1:19pm On May 27
Aemmyjah:



Show us from our own publication or our website (not an apostate site) where we condemn university education

Do you discourage university education? Yes or no?

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 1:27pm On May 27
FxMasterz:


Do you discourage university education? Yes or no?

We strongly encourage our children or wards to pursue careers in God's service over secular careers in the name of making a name in this world. In line with Matthew 6:33, they keep seeking first the kingdom by such choice. But the choice of which pathway they will choose is theirs. They are strongly encouraged to learn vocational skills that will help them become useful to themselves and their families
Earning a degree is almost useless in these days
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 1:29pm On May 27
Aemmyjah:


We strongly encourage our children or wards to pursue careers in God's service over secular careers in the name of making a name in this world. In line with Matthew 6:33, they keep seeking first the kingdom by such choice. But the choice of which pathway they will choose is theirs. They are strongly encouraged to learn vocational skills that will help them become useful to themselves and their families
Earning a degree is almost useless in these days

If earning a degree is almost useless. Why did you go to the university to earn such a useless thing?

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Courz: 1:32pm On May 27
Aemmyjah:



Earning a degree is almost useless in these days

So what are you doing in the University right now as we speak? Your degree is useless. That's what you said. Why are you wasting your parents money on University Education? And why is It that you are going against the command of your Governing body to attend University?

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Courz: 1:36pm On May 27
FxMasterz:


If earning a degree is almost useless. Why did you go to the university to earn such a useless thing?

Good question. He is going against the order of his Governing body attending University. Are you aware that JW Elders and Ministerial servants who are the people having positions in JW are removed from their positions if they attend University or if their Children attend the University? When I was a JW, my father was removed from his position as an Elder because my younger brother was in Law School. Ask Fornicator Aemmyjah and Islamist Mad MaxinDhouse why their Governing body would send Circuit Overseers to different congregations to remove Elders like this.

What message are they passing across to JWs? The message is they discourage University education. Don't allow these jW miscreants to Deceive and lie to you with twisting of words. They are against University Education! They are the Boko Haram of Christianity.

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 1:43pm On May 27
Courz:


Good question. He is going against the order of his Governing body attending University. Are you aware that JW Elders and Ministerial servants who are the people having positions in JW are removed from their positions if they attend University or if their Children attend the University? When I was a JW, my father was removed from his position as an Elder because my younger brother was in Law School. Ask Fornicator Aemmyjah and Islamist Mad MaxinDhouse why their Governing body would send Circuit Overseers to different congregations to remove Elders like this.

What message are they passing across to JWs? The message is they discourage University education. Don't allow these jW miscreants to Deceive and lie to you with twisting of words. They are against University Education! They are the Boko Haram of Christianity.

Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!

Aemmyjah!!!

You liar!!!

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Courz: 1:49pm On May 27
FxMasterz:


Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!

Aemmyjah!!!

You liar!!!

This is even small. Do you know that back then when their former President of Watchtower Rutherford was ruling, he banned secondary school education? How did I know? I had a Late Uncle that left the Cult when this was going on. Their old publications reveal this. Rutherford said Jehovah's Witnesses must choose the Cult or Secondary school education. Guess what happened? Many Jehovah's Witnesses choose Secondary school and told Rutherford to go to Hell! No be today this Cult dey suffer mass decline in membership. E don Tay.

When Rutherford saw that decline in membership means low income for himself and his Business Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, he was forced to retract the ban.

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 1:56pm On May 27
FxMasterz:


Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!

Aemmyjah!!!

You liar!!!


Anyone with half brain knows all over on NL that Courz is a liar and a manipulator. He even modifies people's comments... Tomorrow he will say we don't eat food and you'll believe it
Continue allowing a liar to sneeze onto your brain


Everyone on NL that is familiar with Courz knows he's a malicious liar and has never dropped anything positive on NL
he's a fool and you too are showing folly by believing his 'did you know that's without investigating for yourself
If someone says that do you know your wife was a public slut, you'll believe it
Mumu
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Courz: 1:59pm On May 27
Aemmyjah:



Anyone with half brain knows all over on NL that Courz is a liar and a manipulator. He even modifies people's comments... Tomorrow he will say we don't eat food and you'll believe it
Continue allowing a liar to sneeze onto your brain


So what are you doing in the University right now as we speak? Your degree is useless. That's what you said. Why are you wasting your parents money on University Education? And why is It that you are going against the command of your Governing body to attend University?

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 2:04pm On May 27
FxMasterz:


If earning a degree is almost useless. Why did you go to the university to earn such a useless thing?


I had 2 options
Learning tech or going to school
Pressure from my unbelieving parents so I'll be the first in the entire family to be a graduate was high
I loved preaching and was encouraged to do tech if I wanted to and I'll be able to have time to preach more. I told my Witness Aunt 'Governing body is not my father to tell me what I should do with my life'. I regret it all now. My friends opted to learn a trade and they're preaching more and doing well in their business. School really affected me financially and spiritually. I have my spiritual goals but university education and that path won't allow me. But Jehovah appreciates those who makes sacrifices for the sake of his kingdom and many are counting their blessings


If many young ones today are quitting school to learn business or tech or other careers, what about thise making sacrifices to do God's work fully? You're just envious. Mention one JW you've seen that is a failure or near failure cos he chose not to go to the university...
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 2:06pm On May 27
Courz:


This is even small. Do you know that back then when their former President of Watchtower Rutherford was ruling, he banned secondary school education? How did I know? I had a Late Uncle that left the Cult when this was going on. Their old publications reveal this. Rutherford said Jehovah's Witnesses must choose the Cult or Secondary school education. Guess what happened? Many Jehovah's Witnesses choose Secondary school and told Rutherford to go to Hell! No be today this Cult dey suffer mass decline in membership. E don Tay.

When Rutherford saw that decline in membership means low income for himself and his Business Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, he was forced to retract the ban.

This is more serious than I thought. Maxindhouse, can you see that you're being deceived?

The bolded caught my attention. You mean the leaders of the JW actually rule over them?

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Courz: 2:06pm On May 27
Aemmyjah:



I had 2 options
Learning tech or going to school
Pressure from my unbelieving parents so I'll be the first in the entire family to be a graduate was high
I loved preaching and was encouraged to do tech if I wanted to and I'll be able to have time to preach more. I told my Witness Aunt 'Governing body is not my father to tell me what I should do with my life'. I regret it all now. My friends opted to learn a trade and they're preaching more and doing well in their business. School really affected me financially and spiritually. I have my spiritual goals but university education and that path won't allow me. But Jehovah appreciates those who makes sacrifices for the sake of his kingdom and many are counting their blessings


If many young ones today are quitting school to learn business or tech or other careers, what about thise making sacrifices to do God's work fully? You're just envious. Mention one JW you've seen that is a failure or near failure cos he chose not to go to the university...

So what are you doing in the University right now as we speak? Your degree is useless. That's what you said. Why are you wasting your parents money on University Education? And why is It that you are going against the command of your Governing body to attend University?

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Courz: 2:12pm On May 27
FxMasterz:


This is more serious than I thought. Maxindhouse, can you see that you're being deceived?

The bolded caught my attention. You mean the leaders of the JW actually rule over them?

Of course! Whatever their leaders say is Law! Haven't you seen it in their responses? Rutherford who liked to be addressed as Judge Rutherford was their former President and he dictated their rules and Prophecies at that time. One thing you should know about JW is : Whoever becomes the leader dictates their rules and Doctrines! When Charles Taze Russell died, Rutherford took over by force like a typical Politician crazy for power and riches ( To show you the Politics that goes on in JW) and changed so many things. Back in Charles Taze Russell time, JW Men were free to wear Beards as long as his own. When he died, Rutherford came to enforce No Beard because he never liked Charles Taze Russell and needed his followers to look more like himself than Charles.

So, Yes. Their Leaders rule JWs. Anything their leaders dictate, JWs follow whether they like it or not. After all, their Governing body call themselves their Future Kings. They rule JWS. They are a Government. grin grin

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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 2:18pm On May 27
Aemmyjah:



Anyone with half brain knows all over on NL that Courz is a liar and a manipulator. He even modifies people's comments... Tomorrow he will say we don't eat food and you'll believe it
Continue allowing a liar to sneeze onto your brain


Everyone on NL that is familiar with Courz knows he's a malicious liar and has never dropped anything positive on NL
he's a fool and you too are showing folly by believing his 'did you know that's without investigating for yourself
If someone says that do you know your wife was a public slut, you'll believe it
Mumu

I'm sure Courz would prove it beyond reasonable doubt. He has presented proofs for everything he said here, so I have cause to believe him because of his track records. While you on the other hand have attempted to deceive me several times by manipulating my words and even the Bible. You have even subtly presented epic to me as epi just to prove a false point.

Now that you're regretting your decision to attend a university, I hope you'll cancel your NYSC and shun any invitation to go collect your degree certificate from your school. You lying hypocrite!

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