achorladey:


Make una fill me of the outcome. I dey like read stuff of that nature well well

E get one I copy on nairaland between Muttleylaff and JMANO5

Sweet conversation about should women be shepherd or pastors

I'm still waiting for him to schedule the debate, let's see if he can hold up to his word.

MaxInDHouse:
They are fulfilling what Jesus said will be done to his REAL disciples:
“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household? Matthew 10:24-25
So when we hear religionists of different sects saying this about us we rejoice greatly because that's what Jesus said will be done to his REAL disciples! Matthew 5:11-12

lost false jw mad max

so your lying about me and swearing at me like your fore fathers did to Jesus,
shows that i am a true disciple of Jesus, i already know that

Mat 5:11  Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. 
Mat 5:12  Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. 

lost false jw, verse 11; people don't say evil against you because of Jesus,
you teach evil about Jesus, that Jesus deceived thomas, Bible tells us that satan is the deceiver,
Jesus is the opposite to that one

verse 12, these disciples reward is in heaven, you false jw's claim a paradise earth


you just preaching lies all over the place, oh deluded one < that's truth, not persecution as i'm sure you would lie and claim



Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

freshboi88:


But your Greek interlinear does not have the word 'other'

Greek interlinear is their Greek to English translation of the bible. Notice the word other is not there. It simply says all(things) - first picture. Words are circled in red.

But in your NWT bible, the word other suddenly appears, where did it come from mate. - second picture, insertions are circled in a yellow-like color

Do you agree that you have inserted the word 'other' 4 times in col 1 16-20 in your NWT bible ? Even when it is not there in the original Greek language according to your own translation...do you agree ?

That's what TRANSLATION entails!
If Jesus is the firstborn of creation then the rest are other children of creation so it's appropriate to include the word "OTHER" for readers to grasp what Paul is saying.
Note that languages don't go like 123.
For instance in Yorùbá language if i say:
"nítorí ipasẹ̀ rẹ̀ ni a dá gbogbo ohun (mìíràn) ní ọ̀run àti ní ayé"
Another translator may say:
"nítorí ipasẹ̀ rẹ̀ ni a dá gbogbo ohun ní ọ̀run àti ní ayé"
Take note of the word (mìíràn) it's appropriate to make the reader understand that the firstborn is also part of creation!

ReacherSaidNoth:
The JW is a cult. They give the outward appearance of civility but the members are in a cage they can't escape from because of the threats of punishment they have been convinced are terrible.

please guide your utterances, don't say what you don't have know.

ReacherSaidNoth:
The JW is a cult. They give the outward appearance of civility but the members are in a cage they can't escape from because of the threats of punishment they have been convinced are terrible.

please guide your utterances, don't say what you don't have know.

Emusan:


Shameless lying liar Jws.

Now, after claiming that "the name Christian is curses and bastardised and whoever thinks he belongs to Christ under the cursed and bastardised name(Christian) should think twice" he is shamelessly claiming to be part of the same CURSED AND BASTARDISED name again.

Old lying soldier with no iota of shame

You can cry for all i care!
If there are thousands of religious groups with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines claiming Christians there must be fake as well as original.
So mention the name of your church otherwise you are just joking!

Umadam:

please guide your utterances, don't say what you don't have know.

Abeg take am easy o!

MaxInDHouse:
You can cry for all i care!
If there are thousands of religious groups with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines claiming Christians there must be fake as well as original.
So mention the name of your church otherwise you are just joking!

The only crying old lying soldier like his father the Devil here is the one who claimed a name is cursed and bastardised and his gods have given him a NEW NAME that is why he left the cursed and bastardised name for Christendom and whoever thinks he belongs to Christ under the cursed and bastardised old group name should think twice"[/b] but has swallowed his vomit and begin to claim he is also BEARING THE SAME CURSED AND BASTARDISED name and his organisation also shares the name with Christendom.

Umadam:
please guide your utterances, don't say what you don't have know.

But watchtower tag others as CULT too.

Do you warm them to guide their utterance?

Emusan:

The only crying old lying soldier like his father the Devil here is the one who claimed a name is cursed and bastardised and his gods have given him a NEW NAME that is why he left the cursed and bastardised name for Christendom and whoever thinks he belongs to Christ under the cursed and bastardised old group name should think twice"[/b] but has swallowed his vomit and begin to claim he is also BEARING THE SAME CURSED AND BASTARDISED name and his organisation also shares the name with Christendom.

Of course the group name "CHRISTIANS" was given to a first century peaceful group whose founder COMMANDED all members to go about the task he gave them as WISE as serpent and HARMLESS as dove {Matthew 10:16} they are to LOVE their NEIGHBOURS as themselves {Mark 12:31} FELLOW BELIEVERS as the founder loves them {John 13:34-35} and to love also pray for those posing as ENEMIES! Luke 6:27-28

So if some religionists today are claiming they are members of this group but completely turning their backs on the instructions from the founder surely they have BASTARDIZED that name and brought a CURSE upon it! Matthew 15:7-9

Jesus established a group in the first century through God's Holy Spirit {Act 2:1-4} the task given to them is to become WITNESSES to the fact that the Prince of Peace has walked this planet {Act 1:8 compare to Isaiah 9:6} so they are to gather faithful and obedient humans in a the nations {Isaiah 2:2-4} and make them obedient to the Prince of Peace as his disciples {Matthew 28:19-20} with this global family the entire human race supposed to see this group as salt and light of the world! Matthew 5:13-16

But what do we have today?

Countless religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines claiming they are CHRISTIANS yet their members are into politics and racism to the extent of hating, fighting and killings not just anyone but even their fellow worshipers who are calling upon the name of the Prince of Peace in other nations! Matthew 7:21-23

So has this group name been BASTARDIZED or it still retain it's glory just as the inhabitants of Antioch noticed their loving movement in the first century? Act 11:26

Surely these fake religionists have brought a CURSE upon that group name that's why the only true God vowed in His anger that He will destroy all those fake religionists and began calling His own worshipers by another group name:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Emusan here is it again oya hit your head on the wall or go hug a transformer because we are the true Christians you people stole that fine group name and brought a CURSE upon it that's why you're so ashamed to mention the name of your church because you know that there is nothing to write home about your so called religions!

MaxInDHouse:


That's what TRANSLATION entails!
If Jesus is the firstborn of creation then the rest are other children of creation so it's appropriate to include the word "OTHER" for readers to grasp what Paul is saying.
Note that languages don't go like 123.
For instance in Yorùbá language if i say:
"nítorí ipasẹ̀ rẹ̀ ni a dá gbogbo ohun (mìíràn) ní ọ̀run àti ní ayé"
Another translator may say:
"nítorí ipasẹ̀ rẹ̀ ni a dá gbogbo ohun ní ọ̀run àti ní ayé"
Take note of the word (mìíràn) it's appropriate to make the reader understand that the firstborn is also part of creation!

So you are admitting that you inserted the word 'other' in col 1: 16-20 four times to fit your interpretation correct even when Paul in the original text didn't use the word other, correct ?

MaxInDHouse:

The collection was ongoing in the temple where worshipers practiced JUDAISM he is still having serious issues with what he has said about the way that religion was conducted so he has no say on the way Jews practice their religion back then. In fact that's what led to his being accused, arrest and death!

Did He condemn the collection or not? If it was wrong, He would have condemned the collection. As a matter of fact, He commended the poor widow's offering.

freshboi88:

So you are admitting that you inserted the word 'other' in col 1: 16-20 four times to fit your interpretation correct even when Paul in the original text didn't use the word other, correct ?

Translation work is not like 123 it's about language so if you don't understand what OTHERS means that's your own cup of coffee Jesus is the FIRSTBORN and there is no firstborn who is not part of those being born.
Surely OTHER creatures are from the same father who used His firstborn Son to procreate just as God used Adam to populate the earth.
Adam was God's Son! Luke 3:38

However what exactly has this got to do with Jesus being God's Son?

Truvelisback:
Did He condemn the collection or not? If it was wrong, He would have condemned the collection. As a matter of fact, He commended the poor widow's offering.

Jesus can't condemn what is happening in the temple since that religion was about to end in the first century! John 4:21

UR POINTS ARE VALID. THEM DEY TRY BUT I DON'T REALLY LIKE THEIR IDEA OF MARRIAGE. THEY ALWAYS INSIST ON MARRYING THEMSELVES. A FATHER CAN DISOWN THE CHILD WHO MARRIES OUTSIDE THE DOCTRINE. THAT IS WHY MOST OF THEIR WOMEN WILL BE OLD ENOUGH FOR MARRIAGE WITHOUT MARRIAGE. I ALSO KNOW THAT MOST FAMILIES TRY TO COVER UP ISSUES IN MARRIAGE, BUT I LOVE THE FACTS THAT MOST OF THE FAMILIES STICK TOGETHER TILL DEATH. THEY ALWAYS TRY TO KEEP TO THE WORLD OF GOD.

MaxInDHouse:

Translation work is not like 123 it's about language so if you don't understand what OTHERS means that's your own cup of coffee Jesus is the FIRSTBORN and there is no firstborn who is not part of those being born.
Surely OTHER creatures are from the same father who used His firstborn Son to procreate just as God used Adam to populate the earth.
Adam was God's Son! Luke 3:38

However what exactly has this got to do with Jesus being God's Son?

There is a difference between translation and interpretation. Let's deal with the translation part first then we can move to interpretation.

I'm using your own translation document gotten from JW.org


do you agree that you inserted the word other 4 times in col 1: 16-20 in your NWT bible even when it is not there in the original Greek as shown by your interlinear ?
Answer this question and we can move from there ...

MaxInDHouse:

Jesus can't condemn what is happening in the temple since that religion was about to end in the first century! John 4:21

But He condemn Trading in the temple.

freshboi88:

I'm using your own translation document gotten from JW.org.

You're not doing as we agreed.

I said STRICTLY WHAT THE BIBLE TEACH not a religion.
So if you keep talking about a religion then you have to mention your own religion.
Definitely you have nothing to say other than thinking about Jehovah's Witnesses teachings but if you have something unique let me know!

Truvelisback:
But He condemn Trading in the temple.

As a Jew he is reminding them what was WRITTEN in the scriptures! Matthew 21:13

That's why they were asking him what authority does he have to apply the scriptures against their activities because what they're doing is not according to the scriptures.

MaxInDHouse:

As a Jew he is reminding them what was WRITTEN in the scriptures! Matthew 21:13

That's why they were asking him what authority does he have to apply the scriptures against their activities because what they're doing is not according to the scriptures.

Ehn! You are very good at making the Scripture say what you want to hear. Why didn't He do the same when they were giving offering?

Truvelisback:
Ehn! You are very good at making the Scripture say what you want to hear. Why didn't He do the same when they were giving offering?

Because that's according to the scriptures! Exodus 23:15

RussellRutherfo:


You no lie about that "marrying American JW" yahoo scam.

One I know just did that with an old black American jw lady and 6 months after. They divorced and he took her money.

That's how they are and that's the trend among them in Nigeria.

Umadam:


please guide your utterances, don't say what you don't have know.

He is speaking the truth, you can hit your head against the wall if you don't like it.
That was how you guys castigated, disfellowshipped, reproved lots of young men because of beard even small moustache. Today your cult like elders has approved of beards.
How is that not a cult like behavior. Are you God for punishing someone for a earthly non immortal sin?

Myer:

I greet you chief. Trust you're keeping spirit, soul and body together.

Long time baba. I no get option than to keep those responsibilities cited oooo.

Na my load to carry first.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus established a group in the first century through God's Holy Spirit {Act 2:1-4} the task given to them is to become WITNESSES to the fact that the Prince of Peace has walked this planet {Act 1:8 compare to Isaiah 9:6} so they are to gather faithful and obedient humans in a the nations {Isaiah 2:2-4} and make them obedient to the Prince of Peace as his disciples {Matthew 28:19-20} with this global family the entire human race supposed to see this group as salt and light of the world! Matthew 5:13-16

But what do we have today?

Countless religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines claiming they are CHRISTIANS yet their members are into politics and racism to the extent of hating, fighting and killings not just anyone but even their fellow worshipers who are calling upon the name of the Prince of Peace in other nations! Matthew 7:21-23

So has this group name been BASTARDIZED or it still retain it's glory just as the inhabitants of Antioch noticed their loving movement in the first century? Act 11:26

Surely these fake religionists have brought a CURSE upon that group name that's why the only true God vowed in His anger that He will destroy all those fake religionists and began calling His own worshipers by another group name:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Emusan here is it again oya hit your head on the wall or go hug a transformer because we are the true Christians you people stole that fine group name and brought a CURSE upon it that's why you're so ashamed to mention the name of your church because you know that there is nothing to write home about your so called religions!

Exposing your lies is really paining you, the severe pains caused must really be unbearable for you.

Lying liar Jws.

Well I'm happy you're now associating with same name you use your dirty mouth to denigrate so much and not only you but entire Watchtower.

Maximumu is now bearing a CURSED and BASTARDISED name and he is not BELONG TO Jesus CHRIST.

Shameless lying liar jws like his father the Devil.

Courz:


Their Governing body, Elders and Circuit Overseers. They will form a judicial committee where they wil drill you. You will suffer character assassination and ostracism. Your fellow JWS Plus your family will be asked to abandon you.

Something is really paining this one.

Oseone1:
The bible mentioned two people (King Herod & Pharoah) that celebrated their b\days, were they christians? NO. they even killed people on that day, Christ didnt celebrates his own, So you that is celebrating ur bday whom are u immitating? guy make u dey reason well

You are not answering my question. The question was....

Who is the Lord that gave you right to say when others choose to celebrate their day of birth that what they do so is of pagan origin?

What is my problem with those not Christians celebrating birthdays. Is Pharoah and Herod the Lord who says celebration of birthdays is a wrong?

guy make u dey reason well

Because someone packed those things into your brains means you are reasoning well. Will you arrive at the same conclusion had someone not pack it into your brains?

luluman:
Something is really paining this one.

Na you dey peddle pains. You see anything like pain in his comments

sacajawea:

I know the story already. That's what I'm trying to say.

And you are afraid of sharing it here.

luluman:
Something is really paining this one.

No something is also painining you too. That's why you quoted me. You are pained that I exposed the Life imprisonment you people are living abi? As if you are a Prisoner in your own home. A bunch of men are controlling you like remote. You can't keep beards, you can now keep beards, you can't speak out, you can't question. Na life be that? No o. Na Prison. You Jehovah's Witnesses are in serious prison. That's why you have Elders, circuit overseers, Branch committee people and Governing body drilling fear inside you. Just make the mistake to tell your Governing body that their view against University Education isn't Biblical. Immediately, you will be disfellowshipped. It is not my fault you are in prison. It's your fault. You are in a Cult. Period.

Emusan:

Shameless lying liar jws like his father the Devil.

Can't you see that you're not shameless but it's so difficult for you to prove everything i say wrong all you keep doing is repeating yourself like a broken stereo.

I am a CHRISTIAN a member of the only group PRACTICING what Jesus taught that false religionists like you stole our former group name and BASTARDIZED it with your Antichrist activities.

Use the scriptures to prove me wrong if you're not a member of the Antichrist!