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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 9:33pm On May 27
hensben:
It's why Foden was given epl player of the year, if not he was second to Halaand in the team in terms of statistics.
Ok.

So Foden was given EPL player of the year because he played more minutes abi? Which means Foden needed to play more minutes for his team to win right?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 9:33pm On May 27
Amoto94:

Expected earnings doesn't translate to earnings when you dont earn anything. Just because xg says that 8 out 10 times will go in if you don't score them the xg is useless. What's the xg of Kolo Muani's shot that was saved by Martinez in WC finals? XG doesnt mean anything
You are just demonstrating you have problem with maths. How do you think expected earnings will be calculated if you don't earn anything that will make you richer than Elon. xG of 0.8 already proves penalties are easy. Whatever else you are arguing has no foundation to stand on.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 9:35pm On May 27
Android17:
Palmer wanted to go on loan and Pep said to be sold fully or stay with the team. Palmer left and City won the league again.

Do you remember Mahrez? Palmer has not had a season like Riyad's (one of them won the league as the best player on his team). That Mahrez was a small fry at City yet the big shot at Leicester. Then compare to Foden that stayed back in City and distinguished himself while there.
It doesn't make foden better, time and chance happen to everyone. City is a settled team already, with or without Foden they will still win the league, for example it was foden that got injured instead of Halaand city will still win the league. Last Halaand swooped everything where was foden, they even won ucl and treble.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 9:37pm On May 27
According to supercomputer prediction Liverpool was tipped to win the league by 86pts at some point this season (even as recent as April) but we all know that City are the champions. So, what does this tell you about all these xgs and other fugazi metrics? Na the end result matter not what xg tells u.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 9:38pm On May 27
Amoto94:
According to supercomputer prediction Liverpool was tipped to win the league by 86pts at some point this season (even as recent as April) but we all know that City are the champions. So, what does this tell you about all these xgs and other fugazi metrics? Na the end result matter not what xg tells u.
Godx:

You are just demonstrating you have problem with maths. How do you think expected earnings will be calculated if you don't earn anything that will make you richer than Elon. xG of 0.8 already proves penalties are easy. Whatever else you are arguing has no foundation to stand on.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 9:38pm On May 27
Android17:
Ok.

So Foden was given EPL player of the year because he played more minutes abi? Which means Foden needed to play more minutes for his team to win right?
With or without Foden city will still win the league, e.g, if it foden that got injured instead of Halaand city will still win the league. Last season city won treble and Halaand swooped everything individually and competed for ballon d' or where was Foden.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 9:41pm On May 27
Android17:
Wait.

Goals and assists did not matter for VVD right? Cool.

If Goals and assists are fair game. I assume Palmer had 19 non-penalty goals right? And those goals helped his team win the league right?

Because you said Foden won because Haaland was injured. So that means, even with a handicap, Foden elevated his team to a higher level abi? When Foden's striker was not playing, Foden still went on to decide games for his team abi? And his team was the best team?
I said foden won best player due to injury to Halaand you are talking of league. with or without foden city will still win the league, they won better last season when halaand was fully fit. foden is the fifth important player in that city team; rodri, halaand, kdb and b silva are ahead of him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 9:42pm On May 27
By XG PSG are supposed to be in UCL final but Hummels and Fulkrug's goals were what sent Dortmund through
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 9:43pm On May 27
Android17:
Ok.

So Foden was given EPL player of the year because he played more minutes abi? Which means Foden needed to play more minutes for his team to win right?
If Palmer can be nominated playing in an unsettled side like Chelsea isn't that a testimony of palmer's football ability.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 9:47pm On May 27
hensben:
It doesn't make foden better, time and chance happen to everyone. City is a settled team already, with or without Foden they will still win the league, for example it was foden that got injured instead of Halaand city will still win the league. Last Halaand swooped everything where was foden, they even won ucl and treble.
Time and chance did not happen to Palmer?

City is a settled team? Settled how? How can you say City would have won the league without Foden when Foden is adjudged the best EPL player? Do you know what that means or are you just talking your usual rubbish?

Chelsea would have finished 6th without Palmer. After all, you were still bottom half for most of the season even with all Palmer's goals. One can even say that it was the likes of Cucurella's new role and Enzo being out that helped your team much more than Palmer. See how that argument works?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 9:48pm On May 27
hensben:
With or without Foden city will still win the league, e.g, if it foden that got injured instead of Halaand city will still win the league. Last season city won treble and Halaand swooped everything individually and competed for ballon d' or where was Foden.
Foden was above Palmer abi?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 9:50pm On May 27
hensben:
If Palmer can be nominated playing in an unsettled side like Chelsea isn't that a testimony of palmer's football ability.
Just like Riyad was in Leicester right? Kalvin Phillips in Leeds right? When they came to City, did they not hide?

So why is Foden not hiding?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 9:56pm On May 27
Android17:
Just like Riyad was in Leicester right? Kalvin Phillips in Leeds right? When they came to City, did they not hide?

So why is Foden not hiding?
Mahrez was the better player when you compare both seasons they won epl best.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 9:58pm On May 27
[quote author=Amoto94 post=130174237][/quote]
Your maths teacher need to be flogged.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 10:00pm On May 27
Android17:
Time and chance did not happen to Palmer?

City is a settled team? Settled how? How can you say City would have won the league without Foden when Foden is adjudged the best EPL player? Do you know what that means or are you just talking your usual rubbish?

Chelsea would have finished 6th without Palmer. After all, you were still bottom half for most of the season even with all Palmer's goals. One can even say that it was the likes of Cucurella's new role and Enzo being out that helped your team much more than Palmer. See how that argument works?
Foden won Palmer with slim margin even when his team won the league what does that tell you. Everyone keep saying Palmer lost because his team mate didn't do better, not because foden was better than him. Statistically and eye test Palmer edge Foden. football is not lawn tennis so a tree can not make a forest.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 10:02pm On May 27
hensben:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfG6AXYqSnY?si=268l-9cznHQ3vy3F

Penalty is not easy as you think. Foden shooting technique on pk is poor. The fact that Palmer do it easily doesn’t mean it is easy, it takes a lot of techniques.
Penalties are easy that's why they have an Xg is 0.8. 80 out of 100 times they go on. Am wasting my time on people arguing against basic maths.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 10:03pm On May 27
Godx:

Penalties are easy that's why they have an Xg is 0.8. 80 out of 100 times they go on. Am wasting my time on people arguing against basic maths.
Which mumu maths, yet some players are worse at it, including Foden.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:05pm On May 27
Godx:

Your maths teacher need to be flogged.
Show results not fugazi metrics
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:09pm On May 27
BlueAngel444:
Chelsea offer CB Tosin contract offer

Be like one CB dey commot chelsea

Brilliant deal, we don't need to waste funds on getting CB.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:10pm On May 27
No matter what xg tells you if you don't score xg is useless. A player composure in front of goal is more relevant than what xg says (xg no dey score goal). Those who played football in the past paid little to no attention to xg/a but they focussed on their finishing and score goals.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 10:12pm On May 27
Godx:

Foden has 19goals and 8 assists with zero penalties.

Palmer had 22goals and 11assists with 9 penalties. This notion that Palmer was even close to Foden in terms of performance should die a natural death.

You people exaggerate too damn much. Palmer created more chances per game and created more big chances (17-10), played more through balls, had better take on success. How can you say that Palmer wasn't even close to Foden in terms of performance?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:12pm On May 27
Oga Airmark striker wey no sabi shoot if u like make xg be 100 he wont score
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 10:12pm On May 27
hensben:
Which mumu maths, yet some players are worse at it, including Foden.
K
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:13pm On May 27
BlueMann:


You people exaggerate too damn much. Palmer created more chances per game and created more big chances (17-11), played more through balls, had better take on success. How can you say that Palmer wasn't even close to Foden in terms of performance?
Dont mind data boys and their newfound love of football mathematics
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 10:16pm On May 27
Amoto94:
No matter what xg tells you if you don't score xg is useless. A player composure in front of goal is more relevant than what xg says (xg no dey score goal). Those who played football in the past paid little to no attention to xg/a but they focussed on their finishing and score goals.
Stop embarrassing yourself. It's becoming obvious you know nothing. From maths to basic reasoning.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 10:16pm On May 27
airmark:


Brilliant deal, we don't need to waste funds on getting CB.
ya sir airmark which available CF fits Enzo Maresca style of play
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:18pm On May 27
Godx:

Stop embarrassing yourself. It's becoming obvious you know nothing. From maths to basic reasoning.
Look at the man in the mirror
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 10:18pm On May 27
Amoto94:

Dont mind data boys and their newfound love of football mathematics

Even in terms of stats, there is no suggestion that Palmer "wasn't even close" to Foden. In fact, Palmer trumps him in quite a number of areas. Judging by eye test or stats, that notion is ludicrous
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 10:21pm On May 27
Enzo Maresca to Chelsea will be a here we go in the next 24/48 hours
- Fabrizio Romano
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:22pm On May 27
BlueMann:


Even in terms of stats, there is no suggestion that Palmer "wasn't even close" to Foden. In fact, Palmer trumps him in quite a number of areas. Judging by eye test or stats, that notion is ludicrous
There is no basis for such outlandish claim and doubling down when corrected but I noticed this obstinacy about some of Pep's ardent admirers that they don't accept that some things are not as they think.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:23pm On May 27
If we don't correct some of these false notions bandied about many will take them as gospel truth.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 10:25pm On May 27
hensben:
Foden won Palmer with slim margin even when his team won the league what does that tell you. Everyone keep saying Palmer lost because his team mate didn't do better, not because foden was better than him. Statistically and eye test Palmer edge Foden. football is not lawn tennis so a tree can not make a forest.
Everyone keeps saying what?

Which team helped Foden to win U-17 world cup for England? What about when Foden was winning YPOTY for City. Did Palmer not play for the same City and manager? Why did he not win it too with the same team Foden had?

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