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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:44am On May 28
raumdeuter:


How many charges did Chelsea have to make them get a transfer ban

So, you agreed with that Statement. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:50am On May 28
@Nateevs, let's even agree that Vlahovic is not good, if he still managed to have a better goal per minute than Jackson in league games, then how was I wrong to have preferred him to Jackson last summer?

Like I stated earlier, Juve will not be stupid to swap Vlahovic for Jackson. Never!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:29am On May 28
airmark:


So, you agreed with that Statement. grin

I am asking you how many charges Chelsea got to be transfer banned and still be under FFP investigations
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:20am On May 28
Seyi olofinjana is pretty doing well for himself
I read this is the highest uefa coaching licence plus 2 master degrees
He should build his coaching career from bottom

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:00am On May 28
raumdeuter:


I am asking you how many charges Chelsea got to be transfer banned and still be under FFP investigations

My post is unrelated to Chelsea.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:14am On May 28
BlueAngel444:
ya sir airmark which available CF fits Enzo Maresca style of play

Many teams will play low block against us as we will definitely possess the ball more. A strong, tricky finisher, who will not be losing possessions and useless in tight spaces is needed. We must not play 1000 passes and no goal against teams.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 7:33am On May 28
Godx:

Penalties are easy that's why they have an Xg is 0.8. 80 out of 100 times they go on. Am wasting my time on people arguing against basic maths.

Not jumping on this argument but this is bad deductive reasoning. Every player has a dedicated penalty taker for a reason. And the reason is that said player offers XG of 0.8 scoring the goal.

But statistically, this is just one player from a squad of 26. This XG does not translate to more than 1/26th of each sample size. Therefore your extrapolation is wrong.

If you are to measure approximate XG per player in each squad, average XG per squad may drop down to 0.2, making it the generally acceptable XG for penalties across the board.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 7:59am On May 28
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 7:59am On May 28
airmark:
@Nateevs, let's even agree that Vlahovic is not good, if he still managed to have a better goal per minute than Jackson in league games, then how was I wrong to have preferred him to Jackson last summer?

Like I stated earlier, Juve will not be stupid to swap Vlahovic for Jackson. Never!



I just realised that you previously replied to my last message.

He didn't have better goal per minute ratio than Jackson. Please fetch the numbers. I am happy to be corrected.

Jackson even missed a full month with the squad from AFCON. He would have scored more.

The problem is you misunderstand the whole premise of the debate. It comes down to two important factors.

1. No one is saying that Jackson is better than Vlahovic. At least, not at this point. But statistically, at this moment, no one can tell me that Vlahovic is better than Jackson. Jackson plays is a pacier league, Vlahovic does not. While Vlahovic is trying to adjust to the pace, Jackson already registered 13, and even missing a ton of chances.

2. In terms of value for money, based on last year's figures, Jackson was significantly the better buy. Jackson cost £30m and produced 13 non-penalty goals. Vlahovic would have cost nearly £90m. If he's not scoring 39 goals by comparison per season, then it's wasted money.

It does not matter what Juve would or would not do. I was here in Drogba's first 2 seasons. You should see the abuse. Juve would not have bought Drogba off his first season performance.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:24am On May 28
nateevs:


I just realised that you previously replied to my last message.

He didn't have better goal per minute ratio than Jackson. Please fetch the numbers. I am happy to be corrected.

Jackson even missed a full month with the squad from AFCON. He would have scored more.

The problem is you misunderstand the whole premise of the debate. It comes down to two important factors.

1. No one is saying that Jackson is better than Vlahovic. At least, not at this point. But statistically, at this moment, no one can tell me that Vlahovic is better than Jackson. Jackson plays is a pacier league, Vlahovic does not. While Vlahovic is trying to adjust to the pace, Jackson already registered 13, and even missing a ton of chances.

2. In terms of value for money, based on last year's figures, Jackson was significantly the better buy. Jackson cost £30m and produced 13 non-penalty goals. Vlahovic would have cost nearly £90m. If he's not scoring 39 goals by comparison per season, then it's wasted money.

It does not matter what Juve would or would not do. I was here in Drogba's first 2 seasons. You should see the abuse. Juve would not have bought Drogba off his first season performance.



You are hereby corrected sir.

Statistically and even by eye test, Vlahovic is better than Jackson. It shouldn't even be up for discussion.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 8:48am On May 28
Twitter tacticos don dey do compilations of maresca style of play. With what I've watched, we are stuck with jackson all through maresca's stay.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:01am On May 28
nateevs:


I just realised that you previously replied to my last message.

He didn't have better goal per minute ratio than Jackson. Please fetch the numbers. I am happy to be corrected.

Jackson even missed a full month with the squad from AFCON. He would have scored more.

The problem is you misunderstand the whole premise of the debate. It comes down to two important factors.

1. No one is saying that Jackson is better than Vlahovic. At least, not at this point. But statistically, at this moment, no one can tell me that Vlahovic is better than Jackson. Jackson plays is a pacier league, Vlahovic does not. While Vlahovic is trying to adjust to the pace, Jackson already registered 13, and even missing a ton of chances.

2. In terms of value for money, based on last year's figures, Jackson was significantly the better buy. Jackson cost £30m and produced 13 non-penalty goals. Vlahovic would have cost nearly £90m. If he's not scoring 39 goals by comparison per season, then it's wasted money.

It does not matter what Juve would or would not do. I was here in Drogba's first 2 seasons. You should see the abuse. Juve would not have bought Drogba off his first season performance.


This is what I have been explaining to him in plain English but he's using maths to argue blindly Palmer takes the PK because he knows how to take it not because xg says pk has 0.8 probability of it being converted
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vischy: 10:25am On May 28
airmark:


You are hereby corrected sir.

Statistically and even by eye test, Vlahovic is better than Jackson. It shouldn't even be up for discussion.

Vlahovic scored only 16 goals and missed 19 big chances for a supposed £90m player.


Ahh, that's atrocious brahhh
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vischy: 10:29am On May 28
airmark:


You are hereby corrected sir.

Statistically and even by eye test, Vlahovic is better than Jackson. It shouldn't even be up for discussion.

Vlahovic is not better than Jackson anywhere because Jackson offers more in build up and create more chances, only problem is finishing which is thesame with vlahovic.


£30m >>>> £90m
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 10:29am On May 28
airmark:


I said when I get home later tonight I would check all the videos analysing Maresca's style of of play to know if he will still need Nateevs Jackson.

It seems Cucurella's success in our last few matches as an inverted full back, is among the reasons they opted for Maresca.
it maybe among the reasons but that also means like some suggest Chilwell may get sold and another lb bought. And we may not be sad losing Matseens, I also see Colwill playing lb more and us getting a CB or 2 if Chalobah is sold.

As for Jackson he fits Maresca's style to a T, Jackson does everything well on and off the ball, if he can improve his finishing but with Palmer and Nkunku scoring we may not feel it, still one needs rest or injured
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 10:34am On May 28
airmark:


Many teams will play low block against us as we will definitely possess the ball more. A strong, tricky finisher, who will not be losing possessions and useless in tight spaces is needed. We must not play 1000 passes and no goal against teams.
what works against low block isn't usually tricky but passes, incisive passes from central midfield or long ones or crosses from the flank, so if we can get a striker with above 80% positional sense with great accuracy and scoring technique well...

But I get why some are worried, we may go back to playing 1000 passes and conceded especially when one of those numerous back passes get intercepted
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 10:36am On May 28
hensben:
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are managers now clubs
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 10:38am On May 28
I hope Maresca can construct good "automatisms" for low blocks, since he loves possession.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 10:40am On May 28
zeusis:
Twitter tactticow don dey do compilations of maresca style of play. With what I've watched, we are stuck with jackson all through maresca's stay.
lol you self see am

They may get a similar forward to Jackson, or Fofana stays.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vischy: 10:40am On May 28
airmark:


You are hereby corrected sir.

Statistically and even by eye test, Vlahovic is better than Jackson. It shouldn't even be up for discussion.


Seeing this statistics makes me more annoyed you're tipping Chelsea to sign vlahovic.

Imagine 16 goals and 3 assist 2 Penalties

Jackson 14 goals and 5 assists NO penalties


How's vlahovic better than Jackson?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 10:54am On May 28
An Ice Cold comp to bless your day

https://x.com/ShowBoat00/status/1795138167386808359
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 11:00am On May 28
hensben:
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so ancelloti is still the undisputed GOAT of managers even when it comes to money spent.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 11:04am On May 28
Petrovic makes Serbia's final Euro2024 squad
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:21am On May 28
NinjaMetahuman:
so ancelloti is still the undisputed GOAT of managers even when it comes to money spent.
Sure he is number 1.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 11:32am On May 28
Looking at the Belgium squad and can't help but note how increasingly mid they're becoming. Still got a number of top players but it just don't hit like before.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 11:35am On May 28
Omo

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by teey0007: 11:47am On May 28
Mark my words, it will be a busy summer at Chelsea. Chelsea will try to make smart things, not completely crazy but smart things, including, for example, a goalkeeper. I expect Chelsea to go for a goalkeeper.

“They will be busy with defenders, at least one centre-back, could be two. I expect Chelsea to be busy, of course, with the striker position.

“I mentioned many times Benjamin Sesko. Let’s see what Chelsea will do in that race with Leipzig still trying to keep the player and other clubs interested including Arsenal and Man United. But Sesko is still highly rated at Chelsea.

“(There) could be also a winger.”

Fabrizio Romano
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AL1ENWARE(m): 11:48am On May 28
teey0007:
Mark my words, it will be a busy summer at Chelsea. Chelsea will try to make smart things, not completely crazy but smart things, including, for example, a goalkeeper. I expect Chelsea to go for a goalkeeper.

“They will be busy with defenders, at least one centre-back, could be two. I expect Chelsea to be busy, of course, with the striker position.

“I mentioned many times Benjamin Sesko. Let’s see what Chelsea will do in that race with Leipzig still trying to keep the player and other clubs interested including Arsenal and Man United. But Sesko is still highly rated at Chelsea.

“(There) could be also a winger.”

Fabrizio Romano
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 11:51am On May 28
iamoyindamola:
Seyi olofinjana is pretty doing well for himself
I read this is the highest uefa coaching licence plus 2 master degrees
He should build his coaching career from bottom

He is already bald ,he should find a way to work with pep even as a bag carrier ,so once Chelsea sack enzo maresca they will go for him .

My words are final .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 11:55am On May 28
BlueMann:
Looking at the Belgium squad and can't help but note how increasingly mid they're becoming. Still got a number of top players but it just don't hit like before.

Only the defense looks bad to me
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 11:57am On May 28
BlueMann:
Omo

100 million players
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:16pm On May 28
Vischy:


Vlahovic is not better than Jackson anywhere because Jackson offers more in build up and create more chances, only problem is finishing which is thesame with vlahovic.


£30m >>>> £90m

Ok.

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