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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Gucciboy: 9:46pm On May 28
🚨 🗣 Cole Palmer admits his first season at Chelsea has gone better than he imagined.

“It’s my first season and I thought I’d go there, hopefully play - but it’s gone much better than I could have imagined. I definitely feel I was justified. I came to play football. I made a difficult decision to leave Man City and go to Chelsea but thankfully it’s paying off and hopefully it will continue to do so.”

(@johncrossmirror) #CFC

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Gucciboy: 9:51pm On May 28
Golden boy leaving an established mancity side and forfeiting winning trophies last season to a struggling Chelsea side .

Thank you so much Cole Palmer......

It can only get better next season...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 10:06pm On May 28
ThierryJay:


You have a point but the difference is that then, only the big teams with the best players could play possession based football.

Now, mid-tier teams with average players are able to play possession based football and do the high press and this is where Pep's influence trumps that of Cryuff and co.

Pep copied Cryuff just as much as Doku can say Neymar is his footballing idol. Those who watch them keenly will know they don't play the same way AT all. I usually dismiss all those "Pep copied blah blah" as simplistic nonsense - depending on the context or who was saying it.

For the gazillionth time (not to you obviously), Pep does not play "possession" football or "total" football. He plays POSITIONAL football and he tweaks it every season. In fact, you can't watch Barca 2008-2012 and compare with this City if you are looking for similarities as you'd barely find it. People still have a hard time reconciling this truth.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 10:10pm On May 28
airmark:
Raumdeuter ngbo?
I know you are full of mischief but I want to nip this in the bud so that when City are cleared off all the charges you won't mislead other members of your citadel on another "City cheated" campaign.

The charges levied at City are from 2008-2015. Nothing to do with Pep or his time at City.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 10:17pm On May 28
nateevs:


Not jumping on this argument but this is bad deductive reasoning. Every player has a dedicated penalty taker for a reason. And the reason is that said player offers XG of 0.8 scoring the goal.

But statistically, this is just one player from a squad of 26. This XG does not translate to more than 1/26th of each sample size. Therefore your extrapolation is wrong.

If you are to measure approximate XG per player in each squad, average XG per squad may drop down to 0.2, making it the generally acceptable XG for penalties across the board.
I think this is being overanalyzed.

xG is entirely probabilistic which means it is based on the likely outcome/possible outcome (for all penalty takers in the sample size). That number just means any player has an 80% chance of scoring from it.

To that end, GodX is right.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 10:23pm On May 28
Amoto94:

This is what I have been explaining to him in plain English but he's using maths to argue blindly Palmer takes the PK because he knows how to take it not because xg says pk has 0.8 probability of it being converted
He did not say Palmer takes it because it has 0.8 probability but that because it has an 80% probability of going in, a player will usually get 8 goals out of 10 penalties taken. In other words, that there is nothing so fantastic about Palmer's numbers because 9 of those goals came from a chance that any average player was likely to score from than miss in 10 tries. Ederson would have had at least 9 goals to his name if he had to take 11 penalties for City for example.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 10:34pm On May 28
Omo, we'll be playing in five competitions next season
PL
FA Cup
Carabao
UWCL
Club world cup

The CWC will probably commence roughly a month after the end of the regular season, and goes on for one month.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sportsweb: 10:43pm On May 28
Android17:
I know you are full of mischief but I want to nip this in the bud so that when City are cleared off all the charges you won't mislead other members of your citadel on another "City cheated" campaign.

The charges levied at City are from 2008-2015. Nothing to do with Pep or his time at City.
No too stress yourself..when Man City gets cleared, a new goalpost or excuse will pop up.

I don't why it's too hard to give Pep Guardiola his flowers. Ego and sturbornes of EPL fans that swore with their lives that Pep will fail in EPL.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:47pm On May 28
Android17:
I know you are full of mischief but I want to nip this in the bud so that when City are cleared off all the charges you won't mislead other members of your citadel on another "City cheated" campaign.

The charges levied at City are from 2008-2015. Nothing to do with Pep or his time at City.

Your records on this platform have shown that you are not a responsible person. The BBC report below is just a reconfirmation.

The only mischievous and shameless person here is you.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:50pm On May 28
Sportsweb:
No too stress yourself..when Man City gets cleared, a new goalpost or excuse will pop up.

I don't why it's too hard to give Pep Guardiola his flowers. Ego and sturbornes of EPL fans that swore with their lives that Pep will fail in EPL.


Change your moniker to Ignorantsweb.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 10:58pm On May 28
Android17:
I think this is being overanalyzed.

xG is entirely probabilistic which means it is based on the likely outcome/possible outcome (for all penalty takers in the sample size). That number just means any player has an 80% chance of scoring from it.

To that end, GodX is right.

Except this is purely singular opinion and not entirely representative of real life.

Tell us why you think teams have a designated penalty taker if every player has equal XG.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 10:59pm On May 28
Android17:
Pep copied Cryuff just as much as Doku can say Neymar is his footballing idol. Those who watch them keenly will know they don't play the same way AT all. I usually dismiss all those "Pep copied blah blah" as simplistic nonsense - depending on the context or who was saying it.

For the gazillionth time (not to you obviously), Pep does not play "possession" football or "total" football. He plays POSITIONAL football and he tweaks it every season. In fact, you can't watch Barca 2008-2012 and compare with this City if you are looking for similarities as you'd barely find it. People still have a hard time reconciling this truth.

I'm smiling as I read your comment because you are pulling me into where I didn't want to go; delving into the technical depths of Pep's style.

For sake of simplicity, I used possession football in generic terms to mean a dominant fluid style of play.

If we go into details, Pep's tiki-taka style of 2008 - 2012 and with the Bayern team is different from this current City style which has been tweaked to be more pragmatic and less one-dimensional.

In the end, I'd just say that Pep built on Cryuff's ideas, re-engineered and then owned it.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:54pm On May 28
Android17:
Pep copied Cryuff just as much as Doku can say Neymar is his footballing idol. Those who watch them keenly will know they don't play the same way AT all. I usually dismiss all those "Pep copied blah blah" as simplistic nonsense - depending on the context or who was saying it.

For the gazillionth time (not to you obviously), Pep does not play "possession" football or "total" football. He plays POSITIONAL football and he tweaks it every season. In fact, you can't watch Barca 2008-2012 and compare with this City if you are looking for similarities as you'd barely find it. People still have a hard time reconciling this truth.

I agree with you on the bolded.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 12:13am On May 29
nateevs:


Except this is purely singular opinion and not entirely representative of real life.

Tell us why you think teams have a designated penalty taker if every player has equal XG.

If you have 5 boys and 5 girls, the probability of selecting a boy at random is 0.5 regardless of if the boy in question is short or tall or white or black.

I'm simply saying if you take all the penalties taken as denominator and use penalties scored as numerator, the probability you'll get will be ~ 0.8 to represent every player. That is how it was arrived at.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 12:30am On May 29
airmark:


Your records on this platform have shown that you are not a responsible person. The BBC report below is just a reconfirmation.

The only mischievous and shameless person here is you.
Your lack of education will always betray you. What part of your post has to do with Guardiola?

Don't try to be stupid. He is still the manager right? So why would his 2023 title be in jeopardy if that timeline you presented means 2009-2018 = Guardiola

Before you waste anyone's time with your lies. The timeline with regards to City managers SPECIFICALLY mentions Roberto Mancini.

Use your brain you won't. Someone must spoon-feed you every time.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:40am On May 29
Android17:
Your lack of education will always betray you. What part of your post has to do with Guardiola?

Don't try to be stupid. He is still the manager right? So why would his 2023 title be in jeopardy if that timeline you presented means 2009-2018 = Guardiola

Before you waste anyone's time with your lies. The timeline with regards to City managers SPECIFICALLY mentions Roberto Mancini.

Use your brain you won't. Someone must spoon-feed you every time.

Who was the manager of Man City in 2016/2017 and 2017/2018 seasons, in which the charges covered?

Now reconcile the lie you shamelessly told and highlighted below and the period in the list of charges I attached and underlined under your lie.

A goat should piss in your mouth.

Android17:

The charges levied at City are from 2008-2015. Nothing to do with Pep or his time at City.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 12:48am On May 29
airmark:


Who was the manager of Man City in 2016/2017 and 2017/2018 seasons, in which the charges covered?

Now reconcile the lie you shamelessly told and highlighted below and the period in the list of charges I attached and underlined under your lie.

A goat should piss in your mouth.

I told you. You argue like you don't know how to understand anything.

Granted, Pep was manager in 2017/18. So what part of the charges levied at City from your screenshot have to do with the manager?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:54am On May 29
Android17:
I told you. You argue like you don't know how to understand anything.

Granted, Pep was manager in 2017/18. So what part of the charges levied at City from your screenshot have to do with the manager?

Apologize for being a shameless liar with this post below.

Android17:

The charges levied at City are from 2008-2015.. Nothing to do with Pep or his time at city

In your desperate quest to treacherously shield Fraudiola, you succeeded in nailing him to the cross. I supplied the nails though (list of the charges).

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 1:01am On May 29
airmark:


Apologize for being a shameless liar with this post below.



In your desperate quest to treacherously shield Fraudiola, you succeeded in nailing him to the cross. I supplied the nails though (list of the charges).
You're silly. You supplied list of charges but won't point to the 1 aspect related to the manager? Why is it hard?

So was Pep the manager in 2009 or why are you not mentioning all the City managers from that time if timeline = manager during timeline?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:14am On May 29
Android17:
You're silly. You supplied list of charges but won't point to the 1 aspect related to the manager? Why is it hard?

So was Pep the manager in 2009 or why are you not mentioning all the City managers from that time if timeline = manager during timeline?

The financial fraud perpetrated in 2016 through 2023 (during Fraudiola's period), gave them the power and advantage to sign players in the team to edge other teams in quality in depth. The proceeds of such fraud (trophies), should never be hailed.

Meanwhile, apologize for this shameful lie below as the charges cover Fraudiola's period in Man City.

Android17:

The charges levied at City are from 2008-2015.. Nothing to do with Pep or his time at city

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:54am On May 29
Are they using Summerville's rumor to ask Sterling to gather his luggages and leave?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 3:12am On May 29
airmark:


The financial fraud perpetrated in 2016 through 2023 (during Fraudiola's period), gave them the power and advantage to sign players in the team to edge other teams in quality in depth. The proceeds of such fraud (trophies), should never be hailed.

Meanwhile, apologize for this shameful lie below as the charges cover Fraudiola's period in Man City.



Why not 2009? Why did the fraud not allow City the advantage to sign Pep in 2016?

I told you, you are just typing whatever comes to your mind. Some of the FFP accusations come from purchasing Brahim Diaz to City academy. Paying Roberto Mancini through a different account. Those are the things that gave Pep an advantage in 2024. Clap for yourself.

In case you need reminders

1. Leaked/Hacked emails concerning City in 2014. About transactions circa 2009-2014.
2. UEFA summon City - City refuse to comply. UEFA charge City 2015.

Case gets re-ignited 2018.

This is the source of the English FA's case. City are not cooperating with the FA and will only tender evidence to an independent adjudicator like they did with the UEFA case.

That is majorly what the all charges of City not cooperating are from 2018 till date. Again, nothing to do with Pep. Shameless airhead.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 7:55am On May 29
smiley

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Gucciboy: 8:08am On May 29
airmark:
Are they using Summerville's rumor to ask Sterling to gather his luggages and leave?

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 8:19am On May 29
Palmer on the celebration : “All my comments on instagram were always saying “cold, Cold Palmer” and stuff like this so I did that celebration against Luton and it just stuck from there. I’ve got all the little kids coming up to me doing it. It makes me laugh to see the kids do it, they really enjoy it and so it’s a fun thing to do. (@MirrorFootball) #CFC


just add trophies and palmer will become a cult hero

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:07am On May 29
I trust Airmark to hold am for blokos very well grin grin

Hold am well well, twist am, come pull am cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:08am On May 29
airmark:
Are they using Summerville's rumor to ask Sterling to gather his luggages and leave?

Summerville vs Mavididi, who do you prefer?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Juvechelsea96(m): 9:40am On May 29
On a lighter note: CAN WE STOP DISCUSSING MANCHESTER CITY AND/OR PEP GUARDIOLA ON A CHELSEA FAN-PAGE COS IT SMACKS OF LACK OF IDEAS ON AND FOR OUR CLUB. WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING CHELSEA.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 9:46am On May 29
Gucciboy:
🚨 🗣 Cole Palmer admits his first season at Chelsea has gone better than he imagined.

“It’s my first season and I thought I’d go there, hopefully play - but it’s gone much better than I could have imagined. I definitely feel I was justified. I came to play football. I made a difficult decision to leave Man City and go to Chelsea but thankfully it’s paying off and hopefully it will continue to do so.”

(@johncrossmirror) #CFC

I cant help feeling like Pep made a huge mistake with Palmer. I guess Ice Cold was a victim of Grealish being a senior man in the dressing room, and that has cost City the chance to have Palmer, Foden and Silva behind Haaland.

Maybe Pep felt it would be too many lefties. Or maybe Palmer and Foden might want to occupy the same spaces on the pitch.

Either way their loss has been our tremendous gain.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:31am On May 29
nihilistjnr:


I cant help feeling like Pep made a huge mistake with Palmer. I guess Ice Cold was a victim of Grealish being a senior man in the dressing room, and that has cost City the chance to have Palmer, Foden and Silva behind Haaland.

Maybe Pep felt it would be too many lefties. Or maybe Palmer and Foden might want to occupy the same spaces on the pitch.

Either way their loss has been our tremendous gain.
You cant have Silva, Foden and Palmer for the same roles you won't have enough minutes to share knowing that there is Grealish, Doku and Alvarez on the opposite side or as qn option to play f9. I applaud Palmer for asking to leave giving those ahead of him in the pecking order. City's loss is Chelsea or should I say it's a win-win situation for all the parties involved, City got a decent sum for an academy graduate a pure FFP profit, Palmer gets playing time and Chelsea got a superstar in the making for cheap in hindsight.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by camri: 10:57am On May 29
Gucciboy:
Golden boy leaving an established mancity side and forfeiting winning trophies last season to a struggling Chelsea side .

Thank you so much Cole Palmer......

It can only get better next season...
He ought to be wearing ten. Where is Gallagher? He needs to relinquish his shirt
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by camri: 10:58am On May 29
Amoto94:

You cant have Silva, Foden and Palmer for the same roles you won't have enough minutes to share knowing that there is Grealish, Doku and Alvarez on the opposite side or as qn option to play f9. I applaud Palmer for asking to leave giving those ahead of him in the pecking order. City's loss is Chelsea or should I say it's a win-win situation for all the parties involved, City got a decent sum for an academy graduate a pure FFP profit, Palmer gets playing time and Chelsea got a superstar in the making for cheap in hindsight.
is foden better than palmer?

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