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Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by Validated: 10:45am On May 30
The defunct Biafra was established on 30 May 1967 by Igbo military officer and Eastern Region governor C. Odumegwu Ojukwu under his presidency, following a series of ethnic tensions and military coups after Nigerian independence in 1960 that culminated in the 1966 anti-Igbo pogrom.
The declaration was an aftermath of the reversal of the Aburi declaration, wherein Yakubu Gowon backed out of the Aburi declarations.

In the heat of the tension, Southern Nigeria thought of breaking away from the North to form two countries or perhaps a separate Southern Republic. It was reported that there was an unwritten arrangement that Obafemi Awolowo should also declare the Republic of Oduduwa as soon as Biafra was declared. This informed the decision of the Biafrans soldiers to attempt to help Yorubas liberate the South-West, otherwise, the incursion into SW up to Ore in today's Ondo State, was not necessary. However, records have it that Awolowo and the South-Westerners buckled at the last minutes and reneged on the arrangement, or better still thought otherwise.

Looking back now, and with hindsight of what we now have as a Nation, Nigeria, would the Southern Nigeria have fared better now?
Did Awolowo and SW's decision to remain in greater Nigeria confer any advantage to the South or a lost opportunity?

Please., this is not about tribe, session or a call for same, but a discussion about our history as a people.
Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by garykoeman: 10:55am On May 30
Mcheeew

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by seanfer(m): 10:57am On May 30
So you expect a civilian without any Military backing to declare a new country under the Military Government?
Try and read about what happened to Adaka Borro on the Niger Delta.

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by Validated: 11:13am On May 30
garykoeman:
Mcheeew

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by Validated: 11:14am On May 30
seanfer:
So you expect a civilian without any Military backing to declare a new country under the Military Government?
Try and read about what happened to Adaka Borro on the Niger Delta.
That is the discourse ... was it the right course?
Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by seanfer(m): 11:17am On May 30
Validated:

That is the discourse ... was it the right course?

Awolowo did the right thing a leader who value the lifes of his followers will do. Instead of leading the masses to death....

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by Carazon: 11:25am On May 30
Ojukwu and Awo both had finished the earthly assignment many year ago, the question should be "are we (SW & SE youths) making the right decision now?

Are our politicians making the right decision now??

Are we still following the mistake of Ojukwu and Awo even knowing that those lanes will take us to nowhere?

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by UncleAyo: 12:00pm On May 30
I can't say, but the thoughtless choices of one person led to the untimely death of millions of his tribesmen while the the decisions of the other led to the preservation of life and prosperity of his tribesmen.

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by LOVEALAIGBO: 1:00pm On May 30
seanfer:
So you expect a civilian without any Military backing to declare a new country under the Military Government?
Try and read about what happened to Adaka Borro on the Niger Delta.

You’re not making sense! So from where did Awo get the authority and confidence to declare that (and i paraphrase here) ‘if the Easterners were allowed to exit Nigeria, that the West would japa as well’!?

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by seanfer(m): 1:05pm On May 30
LOVEALAIGBO:


You’re not making sense! So from where did Awo get the authority and confidence to declare that (and i paraphrase here) ‘if the Easterners were allowed to exit Nigeria, that the West would japa as well’!?

You can read but have comprehension issue... The OP asked a question about who is right and wrong between Ojukwu a military Governor and Awolowo who is just a Minister.

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by LOVEALAIGBO: 1:16pm On May 30
Carazon:
Ojukwu and Awo both had finished the earthly assignment many year ago, the question should be "are we (SW & SEyouths) making the right decision now?

My sentiments as well! My problem is that there are a lot of southerners who are busy calculating how a separation from the north will benefit the perceived ‘competition’ in the south instead of us all joining hands together to read the riot act to the north and demand for certain things to change otherwise it’s curtains on the failed experiment that is ‘one Nigeria’!

Awo had this same crab-in-a-barrel mindset, and because he was reading the situation the way i have described above, he was more interested in working with the feudalistic and medieval-minded enemy instead of seizing the chance to liberate his people and end the mere geographical expression he had earlier written about! Even if he wanted Nigeria to continue existing, he held the aces to demand a reversal back to the status-quo the military had disrupted! However i believe the latter wasn’t a viable option for him because he was thinking of all the oil fields the then Rivers, Mid-Western, Cross-River and East Central states would own while his own region would only have cocoa!

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by LOVEALAIGBO: 1:20pm On May 30
seanfer:


You can read but have comprehension issue... The OP asked a question about who is right and wrong between Ojukwu a military Governor and Awolowo who is just a Minister.

Dude, it’s you that is struggling with comprehension issues! We’re addressing the OPs question, and i was trying to show you how illogical your earlier post sounded when you argued Awo ‘wasn’t in a position to declare a new country’!

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by WhizdomXX(m): 1:30pm On May 30
Carazon:
Ojukwu and Awo both had finished the earthly assignment many year ago, the question should be "are we (SW & SEyouths) making the right decision now?
Exactly

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by gidgiddy: 1:35pm On May 30
Validated:
The defunct Biafra was established on 30 May 1967 by Igbo military officer and Eastern Region governor C. Odumegwu Ojukwu under his presidency, following a series of ethnic tensions and military coups after Nigerian independence in 1960 that culminated in the 1966 anti-Igbo pogrom.
The declaration was an aftermath of the reversal of the Aburi declaration, wherein Yakubu Gowon backed out of the Aburi declarations.

In the heat of the tension, Southern Nigeria thought of breaking away from the North to form two countries or perhaps a separate Southern Republic. It was reported that there was an unwritten arrangement that Obafemi Awolowo should also declare the Republic of Oduduwa as soon as Biafra was declared. This informed the decision of the Biafrans soldiers to attempt to help Yorubas liberate the South-West, otherwise, the incursion into SW up to Ore in today's Ondo State, was not necessary. However, records have it that Awolowo and the South-Westerners buckled at the last minutes and reneged on the arrangement, or better still thought otherwise.

Looking back now, and with hindsight of what we now have as a Nation, Nigeria, would the Southern Nigeria have fared better now?
Did Awolowo and SW's decision to remain in greater Nigeria confer any advantage to the South or a lost opportunity?

Please., this is not about tribe, session or a call for same, but a discussion about our history as a people.

The answer is quite easy

Nigeria is today world poverty capital and 8th most insecure country on earth, a spectacular failure

If you could see the future at the time, would you want to be part of such country that offers no hope?

Ojukwu saw that future, Awolowo saw it but did not have the courage of Ojukwu

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by LOVEALAIGBO: 1:41pm On May 30
gidgiddy:


The answer is quite easy

Nigeria is today world poverty capital and 8th most insecure country on earth, a spectacular failure

If you could see the future at the time, would you want to be part of such country that offers no hope?

Ojukwu saw that future, Awolowo saw it but did not have the courage of Ojukwu

This is what i’m saying, but some Awo apostles see him as being infallible and above reproach! They’d rather chop sand than agree with a ‘okoro’!

That being said, Awo equally had his good qualities just like Ikemba had his negative qualities as well!

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by Buccalcavity2: 2:16pm On May 30
It difficult to respond to op because your narrative is false.
Time and again it's been refuted that there is no "unwritten agreement" with eastern Nigeria wrt secession.
2ndly, there was no attempt to liberate the west as none was called for! Also written and oral history about the actions of Biafra soldiers in Benin et all doesn't show any sign of liberation as purported but domination.
Each leader chose what was good for her people.
If you ask me, Biafra war was unnecessary coz it was precipitated by official dispute between Ikemba and his colleagues. How a personal issue translated to regional issue beats me to date
But I don't begrudge any one that intends to seccede. I only wished the premise was different.

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by Kingspin(m): 2:20pm On May 30
Na Nigeria
Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by SuperEagles: 2:39pm On May 30
You are expecting a foolish soul with half obidient half ipob head to reason rationally ?!

Bro you are so funny, beta ignore this lunatics creating senseless thread all over NL to massage their ipob ego.


seanfer:
So you expect a civilian without any Military backing to declare a new country under the Military Government?
Try and read about what happened to Adaka Borro on the Niger Delta.

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by helinues: 2:41pm On May 30
This thread na thread wey no matter how you caution yourself, you are likely going to get banned.

Baits over jumped

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by Justiceganduje: 3:25pm On May 30
helinues:
This thread na thread wey no matter how you caution yourself, you are likely going to get banned.

Baits over jumped
Do you want to be banned? Hurry up ok.
Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by swagana: 3:37pm On May 30
Validated:
The defunct Biafra was established on 30 May 1967 by Igbo military officer and Eastern Region governor C. Odumegwu Ojukwu under his presidency, following a series of ethnic tensions and military coups after Nigerian independence in 1960 that culminated in the 1966 anti-Igbo pogrom.
The declaration was an aftermath of the reversal of the Aburi declaration, wherein Yakubu Gowon backed out of the Aburi declarations.

In the heat of the tension, Southern Nigeria thought of breaking away from the North to form two countries or perhaps a separate Southern Republic. It was reported that there was an unwritten arrangement that Obafemi Awolowo should also declare the Republic of Oduduwa as soon as Biafra was declared. This informed the decision of the Biafrans soldiers to attempt to help Yorubas liberate the South-West, otherwise, the incursion into SW up to Ore in today's Ondo State, was not necessary. However, records have it that Awolowo and the South-Westerners buckled at the last minutes and reneged on the arrangement, or better still thought otherwise.

Looking back now, and with hindsight of what we now have as a Nation, Nigeria, would the Southern Nigeria have fared better now?
Did Awolowo and SW's decision to remain in greater Nigeria confer any advantage to the South or a lost opportunity?

Please., this is not about tribe, session or a call for same, but a discussion about our history as a people.

Awo was not a military man and had no soldiers under his command unlike Ojukwu,so how could he have declared a sovereign nation under the watch of Northern soldiers who was occupying western region and survive?
I think Awo was smart for not starting what he can not finish and bring death and destruction to his people.

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by twosquare(m): 3:41pm On May 30
When you idiats finish deceiving yourselves up there. Let me know. So many revisionists and deceivers. Tuueh.

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by Goodvibes007: 3:42pm On May 30
OP just typed hogwash as the revisionist that he is. The Yorubas never asked for help from bandits and rebels.

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by Goodvibes007: 3:43pm On May 30
gidgiddy:


The answer is quite easy

Nigeria is today world poverty capital and 8th most insecure country on earth, a spectacular failure

If you could see the future at the time, would you want to be part of such country that offers no hope?

Ojukwu saw that future, Awolowo saw it but did not have the courage of Ojukwu
Another revisionist.

. Awolowo saw the future when he asked for the separation clause to be added to the constitution, but Azikiwe did not. Azikiwe vehemently fought against the inclusion of a secession clause.

2. Tafawa Balewa threatened to pull out the north from Nigeria, but Azikiwe as usual quickly and hurriedly headed to the north to form an alliance with Tafawa Balewa to form a government, thereby betraying his southern brothers a 2nd time.

We all saw how your unity begging with the North ended.

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by JagabanB: 3:47pm On May 30
From the post already, you will realize the poster fine tuned what suits his side.

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by Goodvibes007: 3:50pm On May 30
Buccalcavity2:
It difficult to respond to op because your narrative is false.
Time and again it's been refuted that there is no "unwritten agreement" with eastern Nigeria wrt secession.
2ndly, there was no attempt to liberate the west as none was called for! Also written and oral history about the actions of Biafra soldiers in Benin et all doesn't show any sign of liberation as purported but domination.
Each leader chose what was good for her people.
If you ask me, Biafra war was unnecessary coz it was precipitated by official dispute between Ikemba and his colleagues. How a personal issue translated to regional issue beats me to date
But I don't begrudge any one that intends to seccede. I only wished the premise was different.
The heads of those guys are filled with junks from Radio Biafria.

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by Goodvibes007: 3:52pm On May 30
seanfer:
So you expect a civilian without any Military backing to declare a new country under the Military Government?
Try and read about what happened to Adaka Borro on the Niger Delta.
Ironically, it was Ironsi (an Ibo man) and Ojukwu (an Ibo man) that arrested and charged Ijaw man Adaka Borro for trying to break the Niger Delta away from Nigeria. They had the power and never envisaged that their will be a counter coup. Same Ironsi filled his government with Ibo people who were wrongly advising him.

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by newmoney133: 4:02pm On May 30
Goodvibes007:

Another revisionist.

. Awolowo saw the future when he asked for the separation clause to be added to the constitution, but Azikiwe did not. Azikiwe vehemently fought against the inclusion of a secession clause.

2. Tafawa Balewa threatened to pull out the north from Nigeria, but Azikiwe as usual quickly and hurriedly headed to the north to form an alliance with Tafawa Balewa to form a government, thereby betraying his southern brothers a 2nd time.

We all saw how your unity begging with the North ended.
Our elders did not do well by telling the youths
Only stories that have to do with civil war.Most youth have never been told of the part Azikiwe played in making Nigeria what it is today.Azikiwe' sgreed is the foundation of lack of trust in igbo that Awolowo capitalised upon.
How do you expect Awolowo to follow Ojukwu when Azikiwe insisted Nigeria most be one.
Igbo leader fought against secession clause when the stake was low(no blood bath) but later wanted to separate when the stakes are high(with enough blood bath)

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by seanfer(m): 4:30pm On May 30
Goodvibes007:

Ironically, it was Ironsi (an Ibo man) and Ojukwu (an Ibo man) that arrested and charged Ijaw man Adaka Borro for trying to break the Niger Delta away from Nigeria. They had the power and never envisaged that their will be a counter coup. Same Ironsi filled his government with Ibo people who were wrongly advising him.

You know and understand the history, but some people here listen to lies from their elders and they're trying to manipulate the truth. You will hardly see Ironsi kinsmen talk about how he capture and kill Adaka Boro in all their history.

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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by garykoeman: 4:33pm On May 30
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Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by garykoeman: 4:35pm On May 30
Validated:
The defunct Biafra was established on 30 May 1967 by Igbo military officer and Eastern Region governor C. Odumegwu Ojukwu under his presidency, following a series of ethnic tensions and military coups after Nigerian independence in 1960 that culminated in the 1966 anti-Igbo pogrom.
The declaration was an aftermath of the reversal of the Aburi declaration, wherein Yakubu Gowon backed out of the Aburi declarations.

In the heat of the tension, Southern Nigeria thought of breaking away from the North to form two countries or perhaps a separate Southern Republic. It was reported that there was an unwritten arrangement that Obafemi Awolowo should also declare the Republic of Oduduwa as soon as Biafra was declared. This informed the decision of the Biafrans soldiers to attempt to help Yorubas liberate the South-West, otherwise, the incursion into SW up to Ore in today's Ondo State, was not necessary. However, records have it that Awolowo and the South-Westerners buckled at the last minutes and reneged on the arrangement, or better still thought otherwise.

Looking back now, and with hindsight of what we now have as a Nation, Nigeria, would the Southern Nigeria have fared better now?
Did Awolowo and SW's decision to remain in greater Nigeria confer any advantage to the South or a lost opportunity?

Please., this is not about tribe, session or a call for same, but a discussion about our history as a people.

Go and free your people under bondage of sit at home in the S.E.
Re: Ojukwu Or Awo: Who Made The Wrong Choice? by huptin(m): 5:08pm On May 30
LOVEALAIGBO:


You’re not making sense! So from where did Awo get the authority and confidence to declare that (and i paraphrase here) ‘if the Easterners were allowed to exit Nigeria, that the West would japa as well’!?

Were the easterners allowed to go and Awolowo refused to join?

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