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Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Calitoscassius(m): 7:57pm On May 31 |
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Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by tishbite42: 7:59pm On May 31 |
Dynamicboss:Yeah, I know about the French Resistance in France and outside France. Charles De Gaulle and co. But their contribution was insignificant to the scheme of things 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by 99thEnemy(m): 8:08pm On May 31 |
Calitoscassius:Welcome on board bro |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Calitoscassius(m): 8:16pm On May 31 |
99thEnemy:Tankio!! Every evening i was driving around Enugu searching for some hot peppered roasted or BBQed pork. With chilled palm wine mixed with Guiness. |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by richeeyo(m): 8:22pm On May 31 |
Dpharisee:Stop talking trash and absolutely bullshit about what you have no idea of typical nairalander All 14 oil refineries taken out in Russia by Ukraine is done by Ukraine developed suicide drones long-range missiles such as Scalp from France, Storm Shadow from the UK and ATACMS from the US as not been used in Russia fool 1 Like |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Tetraozonaitera: 8:25pm On May 31 |
Matheusmartin: God bless you. Just imagine. It shows how crazy and demonic the world has turned to. They hail Russia for killing innocent Ukranians who never attacked Russia. They blame Israel for defending and retaliating the gruesome killing of 1200 Israelis when Israel did not attack Palestine. 2 Likes |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by 99thEnemy(m): 8:26pm On May 31 |
Calitoscassius:You need to visit Benue on a Vacation. You go flex pork and booze tire. |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Simeonjoe1: 8:42pm On May 31 |
Delacroix6: Their morbid fear of Russia is driving their militarization. And Russian equally dislikes the polish. If Russia should invade NATO one of the country to first be attacked is Poland. But unlike Ukraine, Poland will be ready as they had been preparing. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by akan102: 8:49pm On May 31 |
dalongjnr:When will that appropriate time be? |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Simeonjoe1: 9:02pm On May 31 |
Enddy50ty: Pressure to attack western military installations in closer NATO countries? Or hit supply depots in NATO borders close to western Ukraine (Poland) before they are sent to Ukraine? In whatever cases Putin chooses this will be a direct confrontation of NATO and a declaration of war which no part wants, on the other hand NATO can keep supplying weapons to the Ukrainian unabated which can strike deep in Russian territories now. Russia has allow this to drag for so long without any adequate response to the Western support, hence any response now will but them at a public disadvantage... Or maybe they view an attack on Russian soil using western weapons as an equivalent of Russia attacking NATO country hence counteracting also. If in that cases NATO should expect a direct confrontation from Russia striking directly into NATO territory. If they fail to respond it indicate weakness in the Russia leadership and might cost Putin his support? Even with Russia knowing they can't afford an all out confrontation with the West. This will also give Ukraine free will to attack Russia at will and wilms even Moscow wouldn't be spared (more unpopularity to Putin). On the other hand if they attack NATO territory how will NATO respond? Give strict warning and more economic sanction while preventing military escalation? (this seems nice as no part wants war but project NATO as weak). Still use Ukraine as proxy supplying more arms and boasting Ukraine to attack Russia homeland the more? Or in cases of Russian attacking certain NATO country like Poland,etc this leads to a limited NATO response where like Ukraine Poland will be supported to open up a new front against Russia leading exchanges of ballistic missile barrage from both sides as ground invasion seems unlikely? What ever the case if this drag on for so long it either leads to a war of attraction, barrage and missiles from both sides which will eventually die down like Iran and Israel (most likely as no part want a full blown mobilization war) OR a full blown war (most unlikely) |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Simeonjoe1: 9:07pm On May 31 |
Ezyp: The guy is no different from terrorist celebrating the death of innocent civilians because they are against Israel. How's that different from terrorist celebrating mass bombing against the infidels all in name of religion? 1 Like |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Simeonjoe1: 9:11pm On May 31 |
frankson1: You people still thinking Russia has a secret blow they are withholding from Ukraine? My guy Russia has thrown all they have at Ukraine, weapons, tanks, soldiers, everything with little painstaking gains. The only thing being withheld is nuclear weapons 3 Likes |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Simeonjoe1: 9:17pm On May 31 |
tishbite42: Ww2 is not a 1v1 fight. Germany fighting on multiple front(against allied forces) against an elusive soviet army. The soviet did not face the German at the early part of operation Barbosa if they did the entire soviet army would be wiped off, the few that did loss their entire command. Credit to the soviet though, they ran deeper into Russian territories evading the German assault and allowing the German to stretch their supplies thin, while entrenching them into the deep Russia cold winter. The attrition had its tolls and German military same was used against napoleon. Soviet tactics is not desired, if you feel sacrificing millions of your young men for the cause is termed a win well. 3 Likes |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Simeonjoe1: 9:21pm On May 31 |
Raf4:. Germany is not as powerful as they were before. Now a smaller more professional fighting force, but who knows a full blown war might spur rapid militarization and Germany has the economy and industrial base to support massive militarization. 2 Likes |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Simeonjoe1: 9:22pm On May 31 |
Akalia:True |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Simeonjoe1: 9:23pm On May 31 |
tnerro1:.. AL queda that recently carry out a terrorist attack killing hundreds of Russians? Not thinkable 1 Like |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Simeonjoe1: 9:28pm On May 31 |
Johncarlo07: It's not about what you have at first but your ability to rapidly shore up your capabilities? Check both country gdp? Economic might? Industrial abilities? Population (fighting age male)? Ability to support a long term conflict? Technology and world reach? You'll see the Germans are no push over and some indices they came out on top, hence I'll say it's a fair fight 1v1. 3 Likes |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by tishbite42: 9:43pm On May 31 |
Simeonjoe1:All is fair in love and in war - Williams Shakespeare |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Simeonjoe1: 9:45pm On May 31 |
Dynamicboss:. Apt. At early part of the war Russia was in complete disarray. Logistics, brutal winter, psychology, Hitler egoistic status and failure to listen to his seasoned commander, attrition etc cost German the Eastern front. While I'm not taking away the gallantry of soviet troops, the tides seems to change when the German becomes bugged down and a new front opens in the west. It boasted the soviets to press on the offensive and psychologically affect the German ability to fight back. War is a 80% psychology. In a scenario where the US did not invade and weapons are not supplied to the soviet union. The Germans will still be bugged down and plagued with lots of logistic problem, the soviet might push them back a little but this will be very limited, Germany will likely settle down regroup, resupply with fresh troops and weapons and break soviet defence advancing into soviet territories. They would have secure their strategic objectives, which is securing soviet oil fields in the west and probable occupy Moscow, soviet would have pulled back deep into Siberia, organizing and mobilizing more troops. The Germans won't pursue deeper as it possess more disadvantages to them. With insistent soviet attack, I don't see Germany holding up vast amounts of soviet territories they'll have retreated from Moscow and holding only a pocket strategic location which is closer and poses little logistics problems.... Summary soviet military wouldnt be completely destroyed or deterred (they are very evasive). Germany can't hold vast soviet territories for long so they'll give ground. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by tishbite42: 9:48pm On May 31 |
Simeonjoe1:Germans haven't fought any serious war since 1945 Highest, they are part of NATO coalitions Russia has fought in Afghanistan, Chechnya and now Ukraine. They're a bit battle tested in comparison to the Germans I fully agree with you about the capabilities of the Germans Let's see how it goes But I think Germany can only beat Russia conventionally on a neutral ground. They can't match to Moscow |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Simeonjoe1: 9:55pm On May 31 |
tishbite42: True though. Maybe all win na win. But throughout history I never really rated the Russian military as a powerful force, most conflict fought on home soil and they were not really a projectional force. Even when they're confronted on their home soil they choose to run around sacrificing its cities and even its people instead of directly confronting the enemy. Well if leads to victory in the long-term who I'm I. But as honorable men of old would say, face me and fight me like a real man and stop scurrying away like a coward 2 Likes |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Simeonjoe1: 9:58pm On May 31 |
tishbite42: . Yes same as Russian. Being on the offensive puts you at a disadvantage. On neutral ground, conventional war. It's a fair fight 1v1 |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Simeonjoe1: 10:02pm On May 31 |
tishbite42: Ukraine has never fought any war since ww2 but they're holding their own against Russia. In fact no country had ever fought in a high end mobilization war since ww2 except probably US Korean and Vietnam War (which Is still not up to ww2 scale). Sometimes necessity just means you just have to do it 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Calitoscassius(m): 10:17pm On May 31 |
99thEnemy:I will. |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by tnerro1(m): 10:52pm On May 31 |
Simeonjoe1: That was not Al queda, even the Russians said it themselves, they know who planned the attack |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by 02Kebreal(m): 10:56pm On May 31 |
Righteousness2: Thief |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Raf4: 11:05pm On May 31 |
tishbite42: Are you now denying the allied forces of Britain+France +Poland+US+etc that all faced Germany at the same time and eventually saved USSR sorry asss from being pummelled to oblivion? 2 Likes |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by justmondris: 12:07am On Jun 01 |
nerde: They hate the fact that they are still paying for Russia oil instead of exploiting it like the Iran oil 1 Like |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by Burgerlomo: 12:08am On Jun 01 |
Enddy50ty:Put In or what his name cannot be destroying Ukraine and expect Ukraine not to strike Russia too 1 Like |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by rockyh(m): 1:42am On Jun 01 |
richeeyo:akuko |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by rockyh(m): 1:44am On Jun 01 |
Impliment:small Ukraine and it's world power backing |
Re: Germany Allows Ukraine To Strike Targets Inside Russia With German Weapons by ViceGovernor: 2:18am On Jun 01 |
Akalia:Kindly leave all those babies saying things they have zero knowledge about. Ukraine is still standing today because of Vladimir Putin’s magnanimity, the man still sees them as his prodigal son that is why he is yet to use Russia full military power on them. The nuclear weapons of Germany, and 4 other nations combined is not up to half of what Russia has and some monkeys are thinking Germany will defeat Russia in war. Even US Dey use their brain when it comes to Russia and nukes.
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